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61-79-list Digest Sun, 07 May 2000 Volume: 2000 Issue: 093

In This Issue:
Re: rag joint
1964 1ton for Sale
Adjustable Rockers on an FE
Re: 1964 1ton for Sale
Re: '61 Econoline Pickup FS Sacramento Area
Re: 429 police interceptor engine
462 Lincoln motor
Re: Adjustable Rockers on an FE
Fw: Radiator and support
Re: 462 Lincoln motor
Holley Carb problem
Re: Holley Carb problem
Re: Holley Carb problem
Re: Holley Carb problem
Re: what should be in it?
65 352 HP
Re: Left and Right
Re: Me again
Horsepower for 460 Ford?

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Date: Sun, 07 May 2000 10:27:41 -0700
From: Mark Flynn earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: rag joint

From Danny:

> I just simply welded one U-Joint to the new shaft I was making and cut
> it to the length I estimated and tried to test fit.
>

Thx. But; actually; I can get a replacement rag joint from the dealer; I
just didn't know which part# (per the vehicle s/n) to get. I would have just
ordered both to save time; but they are $90 a pop.

Anyway; I'll take a guess, and if it's the wrong one, I'll just return it.
Won't make the dealer happy but....

thx,
Mark
San Jose, CA


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From: "Robert Werner" postmaster.co.uk>
Subject: 1964 1ton for Sale
Date: Sun, 07 May 2000 18:34:41 +0100

I managed to save this truck from the boneyard, but I just don't have the time or the ambition to fix it up (yet). I really didn't intend to keep this truck, I just didn't want to see it destroyed, and for the price I paid I felt that if I couldn't find a buyer I could always fix it up myself after school gets out. But I'm letting you guys have first go at it if anyone wants a project. It's 1964 1 ton 2wd, dually rear axle, except there's one wheel missing so there's only 3 wheels on the back. Needs brake work, for sure a new booster & master cylinder. The 292 ran this fall, and the 3 speed manual worked. I'll have to get a clutch spring, cause a friend scalped mine off of it. $175 o.b.o. E-mail me for pictures, and I'm putting an ad on the FTE web site. Thanks, Robert

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From: "Ted and Sarah Freeman" ford-trucks.com>
Subject: Adjustable Rockers on an FE
Date: Sun, 7 May 2000 19:16:52 -0400

Okay folks......my delimma........I just bolted on my adjustable roller
rockers on my FE. It has a hydraulic cam.
All valves adjust perfectly according to manufacturer recommendations,
except the exhaust valve on the number 4 cylinder. With no adjustments made
the pushrod is pushing on the rocker arm and will not let me adjust it out.

Can I put a shim on the last stanchion near #4 to get the required
clearance, shim all stanchions or order a shorter pushrod for the the
exhaust valve?

Any recommendations will is appreciated.

-Ted


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From: "sean michael bishop" hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: 1964 1ton for Sale
Date: Sun, 07 May 2000 19:46:07 EDT

Where are you located at



>From: "Robert Werner" postmaster.co.uk>
>Reply-To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
>To: 61-79 list <61-79-list ford-trucks.com>
>Subject: [61-79-list] 1964 1ton for Sale
>Date: Sun, 07 May 2000 18:34:41 +0100
>
>I managed to save this truck from the boneyard, but I just don't have the
>time or the ambition to fix it up (yet). I really didn't intend to keep
>this truck, I just didn't want to see it destroyed, and for the price I
>paid I felt that if I couldn't find a buyer I could always fix it up myself
>after school gets out. But I'm letting you guys have first go at it if
>anyone wants a project. It's 1964 1 ton 2wd, dually rear axle, except
>there's one wheel missing so there's only 3 wheels on the back. Needs
>brake work, for sure a new booster & master cylinder. The 292 ran this
>fall, and the 3 speed manual worked. I'll have to get a clutch spring,
>cause a friend scalped mine off of it. $175 o.b.o. E-mail me for
>pictures, and I'm putting an ad on the FTE web site. Thanks, Robert
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From: "Tim and Pam Allgire" williams-net.com>
Subject: Re: '61 Econoline Pickup FS Sacramento Area
Date: Sun, 7 May 2000 20:57:54 -0400

As far as I know an Econoline pick-up looks like a van in the front with a
bed.It has a one pc. body.
-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Hall garnet.acns.fsu.edu>
To: 61-79-List <61-79-list ford-trucks.com>
Date: Sunday, May 07, 2000 12:12 AM
Subject: [61-79-list] Re: '61 Econoline Pickup FS Sacramento Area


>On Sat, 6 May 2000, Carver wrote:
>
>> '61 Econoline Pickup
>
>being new to this list, and early ford trucks in general, _and_ in the
>market for a truck (the '67 stepside had enough rust to give me nightmares
>for weeks), somebody wanna tell me what an econoline pickup is? or, point
>me to a site with pics of one?
>
>or alternatively, tell me that massive amounts of rust are the easiest
>thing in the world to cure on a '67 truck ;-).
>
>thanks
>
>scott
>
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From: "bronco66" teleport.com>
Subject: Re: 429 police interceptor engine
Date: Sun, 7 May 2000 20:23:01 -0700

do you still have this engine?

----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2000 11:08 PM
Subject: [61-79-list] 429 police interceptor engine


> for those of you that were interested in this engine, i still don't have
it
> at my house, but i am trading a 83 f250 4x4 rolling chassis for it, i
thought
> i wanted the engine to build, but i have other things going on and need
the
> cash, so i will sell it for the same price my buddy wanted for it,
$650.00.
> standard bore, cobra jet rods, forged pistons, D2OE-AB heads with ported
> exhaust ports, guide plates, screw in studs, hardened pushrods, intake and
> valve covers are gone. this is basically a 429 cobra jet bottom end (2
bolt
> main) with the more streetable and desirable PI heads.
>
> jeff grant
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From: Brazzadog aol.com
Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 00:11:30 EDT
Subject: 462 Lincoln motor

I looked at a '66 Lincoln today. I'm not sure why, but it was cheap. It ran
good but sounded like it had one lifter tapping.

The motor was a 462 bolted to a C6 (at least the guy thought it was a C6).
He said the 462 was a bored 430. I never heard of either - well, maybe a 430.

I'm wondering if the 462 would have the same tranny bolt pattern as a 460, or
my 351M, or what. I'm not sure what kind of motor swaps I might entertain in
which vehicle sometime in the very distant future, but I'd like to know what
my options might be if I bought it.

I'd be interested in any information about the 462 as I know absolutely
nothing about it. Oh wait, I know that the fuel pump is conveniently located
at the top, front of the motor.

Ben Williams
'71 Wagoneer
'78 F-250 4x4

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From: "Jason & Kathy Kendrick" mddc.com>
Subject: Re: Adjustable Rockers on an FE
Date: Sun, 7 May 2000 23:36:54 -0500



Subject: [61-79-list] Adjustable Rockers on an FE
> Can I put a shim on the last stanchion near #4 to get the required
> clearance, shim all stanchions or order a shorter pushrod for the the
> exhaust valve?
> Any recommendations will is appreciated.
> -Ted

> ==========================================================
Ted, my qeustion is why is the #4 exhaust valve so much taller that you
can't begin to adjust it? Is the valve recessed into the head? Anyway, I
think your best option would be to buy a shorter pushrod. If you shim just
one pedestal, you put a bind on the shaft. If you shim all of them, you
change your geometry. Just my thoughts........

Jason
390fe


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From: "Gary L. Perry" fwi.com>
Subject: Fw: Radiator and support
Date: Sun, 7 May 2000 23:49:25 -0500



----- Original Message -----
From: Gary L. Perry
To: Truck Blab List
Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2000 11:25 PM
Subject: Fw: Radiator and support



----- Original Message -----
From: Gary L. Perry
To: pre-61- list Fords
Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2000 11:24 PM
Subject: Radiator and support


Now that winter is gone and it's nice I will be working on my 56 COE again. I need an original radiator, and the U-shaped
support. Has to be from a COE, they ARE different. Someone on-line had one and I lost they're phone or e-mail
address if they would get back w/me. He was from Northern
Indiana. Anyone else?
"G"


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From: "Jason & Kathy Kendrick" mddc.com>
Subject: Re: 462 Lincoln motor
Date: Sun, 7 May 2000 23:53:15 -0500



Subject: [61-79-list] 462 Lincoln motor
> I'm wondering if the 462 would have the same tranny bolt pattern as a 460,
or
> my 351M, or what. I'm not sure what kind of motor swaps I might entertain
in
> which vehicle sometime in the very distant future, but I'd like to know
what
> my options might be if I bought it.
>
> I'd be interested in any information about the 462 as I know absolutely
> nothing about it. Oh wait, I know that the fuel pump is conveniently
located
> at the top, front of the motor.
>
> Ben Williams
> '71 Wagoneer
> '78 F-250 4x4
> ==========================================================
Ben, the MEL (Mercury, Edsal, Lincoln) engines were built to move very heavy
cars. The actual horse power of these engines is probably pretty low, but
they probably have killer torque curves. As far as I know, these engines
have their very own bellhousing pattern, so any vehicle they are put in will
have to accomodate a tranny, too.
I think I've heard of the 430 and the 460?? as factory engines, but I'm not
real sure. As far as performance parts for these engines go, whatever you
want, you build. No performance parts are available, as far as I know. Also,
I seem to remember someone saying that the combustion chambers for these
motors are in the piston, much like the Ch*vy 348 and 409. Not sure if it's
true or not. Have I been any help? Hope so. :-)

Jason
390fe


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From: "Gary L. Perry" fwi.com>
Subject: Holley Carb problem
Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 00:23:09 -0500


I have a Big truck engine with a 2-barrell Holley that leaks all-over, even out the air vents on top
when it's running. I have tried a kit and still the same. I had a different float level adjuster set-up
than what was in kit, guess just update. Seems I need the seat to be almost closed B-4
it stops leaking. I'm wondering if float is too heavy? Parts man took in back of store and
"claims" he weighed it and was to specs from "his book". Most auto stores don't have
float scales anymore or don't wanna bother maybe. Must not be as common a test as
used to be. I'ld like to put in a clear veiw level window. Not many stores in my area have
much for Holley parts and their web-site wasn't easy to navigate. Any recommedations?
Forgot this is a 76 HD359 engine, with governor and two vac lines to distributor.
Thanx. "G"


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From: SevnD2 aol.com
Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 03:01:42 EDT
Subject: Re: Holley Carb problem

The float could have a hole in it. Or the float is sticking because something
is out of sinc.

Hope this helps
Rollie H. Hunt

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From: "G & J Boling" alltel.net>
Subject: Re: Holley Carb problem
Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 05:43:22 -0400

> I have a Big truck engine with a 2-barrell Holley that leaks all-over,
even out the air vents on top
> when it's running. I have tried a kit and still the same. I had a
different float level adjuster set-up
> than what was in kit, guess just update. Seems I need the seat to be
almost closed B-4
> it stops leaking. I'm wondering if float is too heavy?
=======================================================
these HOLLEY CARBS are really touchy about needing clean fuel to supply them
BE SURE you have good clean fuel is most important
i use the clear type fuel filters myself and a friend i have who rebuilds
them does the same for all of his as well he does
sounds like the needle and seat are sticking are you 100% sure you got ALL
of the dirt out of t before re assembleing it if NOT theres the problem i am
sure OR the float arm could be bent some also
try checking these things to be sure
gordon


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From: "Keith Kubiak" <55fordf100 home.com>
Subject: Re: Holley Carb problem
Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 05:07:42 -0700

Are you using an electric fuel pump? If you are using an electric fuel pump
you may need a pressure reducer. Also this condition can occur after
rebuilding the carb if the float sticks. A quick smack on the side of the
carb with the handle of a screwdriver will work. Good luck.

68 Ford F250 4x4
55 Ford F100
64 IH Scout
65 AMC Marlin (On the way)

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary L. Perry" fwi.com>
To: "61-79 -list Fords" <61-79-list ford-trucks.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2000 10:23 PM
Subject: [61-79-list] Holley Carb problem


>
> I have a Big truck engine with a 2-barrell Holley that leaks all-over,
even out the air vents on top
> when it's running. I have tried a kit and still the same. I had a
different float level adjuster set-up
> than what was in kit, guess just update. Seems I need the seat to be
almost closed B-4
> it stops leaking. I'm wondering if float is too heavy? Parts man took in
back of store and
> "claims" he weighed it and was to specs from "his book". Most auto stores
don't have
> float scales anymore or don't wanna bother maybe. Must not be as common a
test as
> used to be. I'ld like to put in a clear veiw level window. Not many stores
in my area have
> much for Holley parts and their web-site wasn't easy to navigate. Any
recommedations?
> Forgot this is a 76 HD359 engine, with governor and two vac lines to
distributor.
> Thanx. "G"
>
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From: "wish" ford-trucks.net>
Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 13:44:59 GMT
Subject: Re: what should be in it?

>> What TC is most likely behind a 4spd and 300?? It has locking
>> hubs so unless it's been converted that takes away the full time TC.
>
>In a 1977, you have a NP205 part time 4x4 transfer case.
>

If it has the full time case running hubs on it (it can be done, mine was that
way, and then I converted it after I bought it) ... the full time case is larger
than the 205 and is the 203 ... if that helps.



Just my $.02
wish

96 Mustang GT 5spd 4.6L
73ish 1/2ton 4x4 6.4L
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From: rjamieso cauc.ab.ca
Subject: 65 352 HP
Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 14:46:38 GMT

I am new to the list and recently purchased a 1965 with a 352. What would
the HP be rated at and is there anything I should look out for when
restoring this truck(mechanical or otherwise)? Thanks, Rod


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Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 11:02:52 -0500
Subject: Re: Left and Right
From: "John LaGrone" ford-trucks.com>

> The main question is: which way was Slim facing when he went down with
> the bomb? Forward, or backwards? I can see him waving his hat but dont
> know which way he was facing.

What self respecting Texan would get on backwards? Slim was facing the nose
of the bomb with the fins to his rear.

-- John
jlagrone ford-trucks.com <]:-) <]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)
1979 F150 Custom, Long Wide Bed, Regular Cab, 351M, C6 (Henry)
http://www.ford-trucks.com/jlagrone/henry.home.htm
Dearborn iron rules!!!!


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Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 11:21:51 -0500
Subject: Re: Me again
From: "John LaGrone" ford-trucks.com>

>> things have been rather sterile since you Stu and Gary
>> haven't been around to stir things up.
>
> I couldn't sit back and let youngsters take over. ;] As much as I'll
> miss Gary and Azie I wish them well and hope they return soon. But
> what's up with Stu? When he was doing his resto he posted every day. I
> fear now that he's finished he's been going out cruising on the wrong
> side of the tracks and hanging with roughnecks, thugs and scalawags.
> "Turn away Stu and come back, before it's too late"
>
> or come and get me!! 8]
>
>
> Later!
>
> Deacon

Deacon, Stu is cloning his first resto in 4wd fashion. He bought another
truck.

-- John
jlagrone ford-trucks.com <]:-) <]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)
1979 F150 Custom, Long Wide Bed, Regular Cab, 351M, C6 (Henry)
http://www.ford-trucks.com/jlagrone/henry.home.htm
Dearborn iron rules!!!!

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From: "Howard, Randolph E" PSS.Boeing.com>
Subject: Horsepower for 460 Ford?
Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 09:51:09 -0700

Howdy,
I just bought a 1973 F100 shortbed with a 460 and C6 trans. While this truck is far from slow, it doesn't exactly rock. The previous owner installed dual exhaust and a Holley 750 cfm, single pump, vacuum secondary carb. The engine is smooth and starts easily. The motor came from a 1972 Lincoln and has 95k miles on it. Compression is 150lb min in all cylinders. I was wondering what the horsepower might be for this motor equipped as it is? It seems a little bit lacking but I have not owned one before. Suggestions for things to check? Thanks.....


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