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Received: with LISTAR (v0.128a; list 61-79-list); Mon, 08 May 2000 11:53:36 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 11:53:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Ford Truck Enthusiasts List Server To: 61-79-list digest users Reply-to: 61-79-list  ford-trucks.com Subject: 61-79-list Digest V2000 #93 Precedence: bulk ========================================================== Ford Truck Enthusiasts 1961-1979 Truck Mailing List Visit our web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ford-trucks.com with the words "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the subject of the message. ========================================================== ------------------------------------ 61-79-list Digest Sun, 07 May 2000 Volume: 2000 Issue: 093 In This Issue: Re: rag joint 1964 1ton for Sale Adjustable Rockers on an FE Re: 1964 1ton for Sale Re: '61 Econoline Pickup FS Sacramento Area Re: 429 police interceptor engine 462 Lincoln motor Re: Adjustable Rockers on an FE Fw: Radiator and support Re: 462 Lincoln motor Holley Carb problem Re: Holley Carb problem Re: Holley Carb problem Re: Holley Carb problem Re: what should be in it? 65 352 HP Re: Left and Right Re: Me again Horsepower for 460 Ford? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 07 May 2000 10:27:41 -0700 From: Mark Flynn Subject: Re: rag joint From Danny: > I just simply welded one U-Joint to the new shaft I was making and cut > it to the length I estimated and tried to test fit. > Thx. But; actually; I can get a replacement rag joint from the dealer; I just didn't know which part# (per the vehicle s/n) to get. I would have just ordered both to save time; but they are $90 a pop. Anyway; I'll take a guess, and if it's the wrong one, I'll just return it. Won't make the dealer happy but.... thx, Mark San Jose, CA ------------------------------ From: "Robert Werner" Subject: 1964 1ton for Sale Date: Sun, 07 May 2000 18:34:41 +0100 I managed to save this truck from the boneyard, but I just don't have the time or the ambition to fix it up (yet). I really didn't intend to keep this truck, I just didn't want to see it destroyed, and for the price I paid I felt that if I couldn't find a buyer I could always fix it up myself after school gets out. But I'm letting you guys have first go at it if anyone wants a project. It's 1964 1 ton 2wd, dually rear axle, except there's one wheel missing so there's only 3 wheels on the back. Needs brake work, for sure a new booster & master cylinder. The 292 ran this fall, and the 3 speed manual worked. I'll have to get a clutch spring, cause a friend scalped mine off of it. $175 o.b.o. E-mail me for pictures, and I'm putting an ad on the FTE web site. Thanks, Robert ------------------------------ From: "Ted and Sarah Freeman" Subject: Adjustable Rockers on an FE Date: Sun, 7 May 2000 19:16:52 -0400 Okay folks......my delimma........I just bolted on my adjustable roller rockers on my FE. It has a hydraulic cam. All valves adjust perfectly according to manufacturer recommendations, except the exhaust valve on the number 4 cylinder. With no adjustments made the pushrod is pushing on the rocker arm and will not let me adjust it out. Can I put a shim on the last stanchion near #4 to get the required clearance, shim all stanchions or order a shorter pushrod for the the exhaust valve? Any recommendations will is appreciated. -Ted ------------------------------ From: "sean michael bishop" Subject: Re: 1964 1ton for Sale Date: Sun, 07 May 2000 19:46:07 EDT Where are you located at >From: "Robert Werner" >Reply-To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com >To: 61-79 list <61-79-list ford-trucks.com> >Subject: [61-79-list] 1964 1ton for Sale >Date: Sun, 07 May 2000 18:34:41 +0100 > >I managed to save this truck from the boneyard, but I just don't have the >time or the ambition to fix it up (yet). I really didn't intend to keep >this truck, I just didn't want to see it destroyed, and for the price I >paid I felt that if I couldn't find a buyer I could always fix it up myself >after school gets out. But I'm letting you guys have first go at it if >anyone wants a project. It's 1964 1 ton 2wd, dually rear axle, except >there's one wheel missing so there's only 3 wheels on the back. Needs >brake work, for sure a new booster & master cylinder. The 292 ran this >fall, and the 3 speed manual worked. I'll have to get a clutch spring, >cause a friend scalped mine off of it. $175 o.b.o. E-mail me for >pictures, and I'm putting an ad on the FTE web site. Thanks, Robert >========================================================== >To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ford-trucks.com with >the words "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the subject of the >message. > ________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ From: "Tim and Pam Allgire" Subject: Re: '61 Econoline Pickup FS Sacramento Area Date: Sun, 7 May 2000 20:57:54 -0400 As far as I know an Econoline pick-up looks like a van in the front with a bed.It has a one pc. body. -----Original Message----- From: Scott Hall To: 61-79-List <61-79-list ford-trucks.com> Date: Sunday, May 07, 2000 12:12 AM Subject: [61-79-list] Re: '61 Econoline Pickup FS Sacramento Area >On Sat, 6 May 2000, Carver wrote: > >> '61 Econoline Pickup > >being new to this list, and early ford trucks in general, _and_ in the >market for a truck (the '67 stepside had enough rust to give me nightmares >for weeks), somebody wanna tell me what an econoline pickup is? or, point >me to a site with pics of one? > >or alternatively, tell me that massive amounts of rust are the easiest >thing in the world to cure on a '67 truck ;-). > >thanks > >scott > >========================================================== >To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ford-trucks.com with >the words "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the subject of the >message. > ------------------------------ From: "bronco66" Subject: Re: 429 police interceptor engine Date: Sun, 7 May 2000 20:23:01 -0700 do you still have this engine? ----- Original Message ----- From: To: <61-79-list ford-trucks.com> Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2000 11:08 PM Subject: [61-79-list] 429 police interceptor engine > for those of you that were interested in this engine, i still don't have it > at my house, but i am trading a 83 f250 4x4 rolling chassis for it, i thought > i wanted the engine to build, but i have other things going on and need the > cash, so i will sell it for the same price my buddy wanted for it, $650.00. > standard bore, cobra jet rods, forged pistons, D2OE-AB heads with ported > exhaust ports, guide plates, screw in studs, hardened pushrods, intake and > valve covers are gone. this is basically a 429 cobra jet bottom end (2 bolt > main) with the more streetable and desirable PI heads. > > jeff grant > ========================================================== > To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ford-trucks.com with > the words "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the subject of the > message. > ------------------------------ From: Brazzadog aol.com Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 00:11:30 EDT Subject: 462 Lincoln motor I looked at a '66 Lincoln today. I'm not sure why, but it was cheap. It ran good but sounded like it had one lifter tapping. The motor was a 462 bolted to a C6 (at least the guy thought it was a C6). He said the 462 was a bored 430. I never heard of either - well, maybe a 430. I'm wondering if the 462 would have the same tranny bolt pattern as a 460, or my 351M, or what. I'm not sure what kind of motor swaps I might entertain in which vehicle sometime in the very distant future, but I'd like to know what my options might be if I bought it. I'd be interested in any information about the 462 as I know absolutely nothing about it. Oh wait, I know that the fuel pump is conveniently located at the top, front of the motor. Ben Williams '71 Wagoneer '78 F-250 4x4 ------------------------------ From: "Jason & Kathy Kendrick" Subject: Re: Adjustable Rockers on an FE Date: Sun, 7 May 2000 23:36:54 -0500 Subject: [61-79-list] Adjustable Rockers on an FE > Can I put a shim on the last stanchion near #4 to get the required > clearance, shim all stanchions or order a shorter pushrod for the the > exhaust valve? > Any recommendations will is appreciated. > -Ted > ========================================================== Ted, my qeustion is why is the #4 exhaust valve so much taller that you can't begin to adjust it? Is the valve recessed into the head? Anyway, I think your best option would be to buy a shorter pushrod. If you shim just one pedestal, you put a bind on the shaft. If you shim all of them, you change your geometry. Just my thoughts........ Jason 390fe ------------------------------ From: "Gary L. Perry" Subject: Fw: Radiator and support Date: Sun, 7 May 2000 23:49:25 -0500 ----- Original Message ----- From: Gary L. Perry To: Truck Blab List Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2000 11:25 PM Subject: Fw: Radiator and support ----- Original Message ----- From: Gary L. Perry To: pre-61- list Fords Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2000 11:24 PM Subject: Radiator and support Now that winter is gone and it's nice I will be working on my 56 COE again. I need an original radiator, and the U-shaped support. Has to be from a COE, they ARE different. Someone on-line had one and I lost they're phone or e-mail address if they would get back w/me. He was from Northern Indiana. Anyone else? "G" ------------------------------ From: "Jason & Kathy Kendrick" Subject: Re: 462 Lincoln motor Date: Sun, 7 May 2000 23:53:15 -0500 Subject: [61-79-list] 462 Lincoln motor > I'm wondering if the 462 would have the same tranny bolt pattern as a 460, or > my 351M, or what. I'm not sure what kind of motor swaps I might entertain in > which vehicle sometime in the very distant future, but I'd like to know what > my options might be if I bought it. > > I'd be interested in any information about the 462 as I know absolutely > nothing about it. Oh wait, I know that the fuel pump is conveniently located > at the top, front of the motor. > > Ben Williams > '71 Wagoneer > '78 F-250 4x4 > ========================================================== Ben, the MEL (Mercury, Edsal, Lincoln) engines were built to move very heavy cars. The actual horse power of these engines is probably pretty low, but they probably have killer torque curves. As far as I know, these engines have their very own bellhousing pattern, so any vehicle they are put in will have to accomodate a tranny, too. I think I've heard of the 430 and the 460?? as factory engines, but I'm not real sure. As far as performance parts for these engines go, whatever you want, you build. No performance parts are available, as far as I know. Also, I seem to remember someone saying that the combustion chambers for these motors are in the piston, much like the Ch*vy 348 and 409. Not sure if it's true or not. Have I been any help? Hope so. :-) Jason 390fe ------------------------------ From: "Gary L. Perry" Subject: Holley Carb problem Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 00:23:09 -0500 I have a Big truck engine with a 2-barrell Holley that leaks all-over, even out the air vents on top when it's running. I have tried a kit and still the same. I had a different float level adjuster set-up than what was in kit, guess just update. Seems I need the seat to be almost closed B-4 it stops leaking. I'm wondering if float is too heavy? Parts man took in back of store and "claims" he weighed it and was to specs from "his book". Most auto stores don't have float scales anymore or don't wanna bother maybe. Must not be as common a test as used to be. I'ld like to put in a clear veiw level window. Not many stores in my area have much for Holley parts and their web-site wasn't easy to navigate. Any recommedations? Forgot this is a 76 HD359 engine, with governor and two vac lines to distributor. Thanx. "G" ------------------------------ From: SevnD2 aol.com Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 03:01:42 EDT Subject: Re: Holley Carb problem The float could have a hole in it. Or the float is sticking because something is out of sinc. Hope this helps Rollie H. Hunt ------------------------------ From: "G & J Boling" Subject: Re: Holley Carb problem Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 05:43:22 -0400 > I have a Big truck engine with a 2-barrell Holley that leaks all-over, even out the air vents on top > when it's running. I have tried a kit and still the same. I had a different float level adjuster set-up > than what was in kit, guess just update. Seems I need the seat to be almost closed B-4 > it stops leaking. I'm wondering if float is too heavy? ======================================================= these HOLLEY CARBS are really touchy about needing clean fuel to supply them BE SURE you have good clean fuel is most important i use the clear type fuel filters myself and a friend i have who rebuilds them does the same for all of his as well he does sounds like the needle and seat are sticking are you 100% sure you got ALL of the dirt out of t before re assembleing it if NOT theres the problem i am sure OR the float arm could be bent some also try checking these things to be sure gordon ------------------------------ From: "Keith Kubiak" <55fordf100 home.com> Subject: Re: Holley Carb problem Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 05:07:42 -0700 Are you using an electric fuel pump? If you are using an electric fuel pump you may need a pressure reducer. Also this condition can occur after rebuilding the carb if the float sticks. A quick smack on the side of the carb with the handle of a screwdriver will work. Good luck. 68 Ford F250 4x4 55 Ford F100 64 IH Scout 65 AMC Marlin (On the way) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary L. Perry" To: "61-79 -list Fords" <61-79-list ford-trucks.com> Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2000 10:23 PM Subject: [61-79-list] Holley Carb problem > > I have a Big truck engine with a 2-barrell Holley that leaks all-over, even out the air vents on top > when it's running. I have tried a kit and still the same. I had a different float level adjuster set-up > than what was in kit, guess just update. Seems I need the seat to be almost closed B-4 > it stops leaking. I'm wondering if float is too heavy? Parts man took in back of store and > "claims" he weighed it and was to specs from "his book". Most auto stores don't have > float scales anymore or don't wanna bother maybe. Must not be as common a test as > used to be. I'ld like to put in a clear veiw level window. Not many stores in my area have > much for Holley parts and their web-site wasn't easy to navigate. Any recommedations? > Forgot this is a 76 HD359 engine, with governor and two vac lines to distributor. > Thanx. "G" > > ========================================================== > To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ford-trucks.com with > the words "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the subject of the > message. > ------------------------------ From: "wish" Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 13:44:59 GMT Subject: Re: what should be in it? >> What TC is most likely behind a 4spd and 300?? It has locking >> hubs so unless it's been converted that takes away the full time TC. > >In a 1977, you have a NP205 part time 4x4 transfer case. > If it has the full time case running hubs on it (it can be done, mine was that way, and then I converted it after I bought it) ... the full time case is larger than the 205 and is the 203 ... if that helps. Just my $.02 wish 96 Mustang GT 5spd 4.6L 73ish 1/2ton 4x4 6.4L http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish Ford Truck Enthusiasts http://www.ford-trucks.com ------------------------------ From: rjamieso cauc.ab.ca Subject: 65 352 HP Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 14:46:38 GMT I am new to the list and recently purchased a 1965 with a 352. What would the HP be rated at and is there anything I should look out for when restoring this truck(mechanical or otherwise)? Thanks, Rod ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 11:02:52 -0500 Subject: Re: Left and Right From: "John LaGrone" > The main question is: which way was Slim facing when he went down with > the bomb? Forward, or backwards? I can see him waving his hat but dont > know which way he was facing. What self respecting Texan would get on backwards? Slim was facing the nose of the bomb with the fins to his rear. -- John jlagrone ford-trucks.com <]:-) <]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-) 1979 F150 Custom, Long Wide Bed, Regular Cab, 351M, C6 (Henry) http://www.ford-trucks.com/jlagrone/henry.home.htm Dearborn iron rules!!!! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 11:21:51 -0500 Subject: Re: Me again From: "John LaGrone" >> things have been rather sterile since you Stu and Gary >> haven't been around to stir things up. > > I couldn't sit back and let youngsters take over. ;] As much as I'll > miss Gary and Azie I wish them well and hope they return soon. But > what's up with Stu? When he was doing his resto he posted every day. I > fear now that he's finished he's been going out cruising on the wrong > side of the tracks and hanging with roughnecks, thugs and scalawags. > "Turn away Stu and come back, before it's too late" > > or come and get me!! 8] > > > Later! > > Deacon Deacon, Stu is cloning his first resto in 4wd fashion. He bought another truck. -- John jlagrone ford-trucks.com <]:-) <]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-) 1979 F150 Custom, Long Wide Bed, Regular Cab, 351M, C6 (Henry) http://www.ford-trucks.com/jlagrone/henry.home.htm Dearborn iron rules!!!! ------------------------------ From: "Howard, Randolph E" Subject: Horsepower for 460 Ford? Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 09:51:09 -0700 Howdy, I just bought a 1973 F100 shortbed with a 460 and C6 trans. While this truck is far from slow, it doesn't exactly rock. The previous owner installed dual exhaust and a Holley 750 cfm, single pump, vacuum secondary carb. The engine is smooth and starts easily. The motor came from a 1972 Lincoln and has 95k miles on it. Compression is 150lb min in all cylinders. I was wondering what the horsepower might be for this motor equipped as it is? It seems a little bit lacking but I have not owned one before. Suggestions for things to check? Thanks..... 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