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61-79-list Digest Fri, 05 May 2000 Volume: 2000 Issue: 091

In This Issue:
Re: Cool Tranny
Me again
Re: 300 Six Interchange
Re: Me again
Re: rag joint
Re: Left and Right
Re: Left and Right
Re: rag joint
what should be in it?
All Ford Carlisle....
Re: Me again
Re: Me again

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From: "Deacon" ford-trucks.com>
Subject: Re: Cool Tranny
Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 00:02:42 -0700

From: "Danny Ling"
> My final year at Warren Occupational Technical College

Is WARREN OCCUPATIONAL TECHNICAL CENTER 13300 . 2nd Place Lakewood, CO.
That offers a spring semester only auto course, to any Jefferson County
student, ages 16 to 21 who has not graduated from high school, the same?
No, this couldn't be the same place because that dog won't hunt these
woods.

>we did an experiment with a C4 tranny.

How did you conduct this experiment. What was the condition of the
transmission. What measuring equipment was used. How were the components
isolated.

>We established that over 80% of the heat
> developed within an automatic transmission is created in the torque
> converter.

> the heat developed by the pump, clutches and bands applying
> and releasing and internal friction only accounts for 20% and that
> figure makes it relatively insignificant as a heat factor.

> An automatic transmission shifts smoothly by literally going into 2
> gears at once. In other words the clutches and/or bands needed for the
> next gear will apply before the clutches or bands release for the
> previous gear.

Two clutch packs that differ in gear ratio are held together forcing
clutch disks under hydraulic pressure to slip is a relatively
insignificant as a heat factor?

> A shift kit just simply changes the timing of this operation by
> making the next gear apply and last gear release in a shorter amount
of
> time.

Boy, that's all it does! Here I thought a shift kit... well... That's
exactly what I thought they did.

> I hope this clarifies things a little.

Sure does Danny.

Later!

Deacon

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From: "Doug Neely" telus.net>
Subject: Me again
Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 01:40:22 -0700

Deacon,
Welcome back, things have been rather sterile since you Stu and Gary
haven't been around to stir things up.
Cheers,

Doug



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From: ballingr bootheel.net
Subject: Re: 300 Six Interchange
Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 04:49:55 -0500

had cast crank, rods, pistons. The 300HD was available from '61 thru present
79 in F-350, F-600, and various industrial and agricultural tractors.

>>>>>>>>>>>

The 240-300 series appeared the same year the FE debuted in light trucks.
1965 also saw the introduction of Twin-I-Beam and the shorter tighter shift
gated NP435 4 speed trans(as an option to the long throw T-18 (98))

Previous to 1965, the 232 and 262 were the deal. They were good engines
from my experience, though they weren't built as strong as the seven
main-bearing 240-300 series. Nobody made an inline six as good as the 300
(the 240 is strong, but lacks torque) ever. A Ch*vy 292 six isn't in the
same league, they would overheat and crack the head when pushed hard. A 2
1/2 ton with a 300 and a 5and 2 trans/axle was the best of the "economical"
2 1/2 tons. They'd haul as much grain in a day and more in a year than any
other grain truck in the class. The big V8s just used more fuel and broke
down. Of course Ford had a pretty good V8 too in the 361-391FT, but even
they didn't seem to hold up like the 300.


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Date: Fri, 05 May 2000 08:13:59 -0400
From: Ken Payne ford-trucks.com>
Subject: Re: Me again

At 01:40 AM 5/5/00 -0700, you wrote:
>Deacon,
> Welcome back, things have been rather sterile since you Stu and Gary
>haven't been around to stir things up.
> Cheers,
>
>Doug

Amen to that! So Deacon, any plans to be at Pigeon Forge
for the Supernationals?

Ken



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From: Rubberducky23 webtv.net (Danny Ling)
Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 08:32:40 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: Re: rag joint

I'm not sure if this is what you are needing. When I built my 77 Highboy
the double "D" joint at the lower end was shot. from my experience with
building street rods I just went down to Bert's Early Ford in Denver
Colorado and looked through his inventory of U-Joints for steering
shafts. They come in 2 types, splined and smooth. The smooth requires to
be welded. I got 2 that was splined on one end and smooth on the other.
the splined ends would fit my steering box and my column shaft. On my
way home I dropped by the hardware store and picked up some hollow bar
stock that fit the smooth ends.
I just simply welded one U-Joint to the new shaft I was making and cut
it to the length I estimated and tried to test fit. I just simply kept
cutting small amounts off until I got a fit that I felt comfortable with
and then welded the 2nd joint to the shaft. (remember when 2 U-Joints
are used on the same shaft for steering they must be positioned OUT!!!
of phase.) Now I have a steering shaft at has no slop in it what so ever
and will last much longer than me or the truck and it actually looks
cool when the hood is open for truck shows and stuff too.

Good luck, Danny Ling


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From: "wish" ford-trucks.net>
Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 13:04:23 GMT
Subject: Re: Left and Right

><< he main question is: which way was Slim facing when he went down with
> the bomb? Forward, or backwards? I can see him waving his hat but dont
> know which way he was facing. >>
>
>The letter said to sit on the motor, beating the bellhousing behind you, so

>that tells me face forward.
>

See that could be my problem as I could've sworn he was facin the rear of the
bomb ... maybe I'll have to check it out tonight, a friend of mine has it on
DVD ..

and the FTE content is that it is left and right based on the motor ... Darrell,
sorry, maybe I read it wrong it was one of THOSE days yesterday (and if your
message says ILOVEYOU DON"T OPEN IT! :)

Me ? Work with computers? what gives you that idea ...

Just my $.02
wish

96 Mustang GT 5spd 4.6L
73ish 1/2ton 4x4 6.4L
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From: JUMPINFORDaol.com
Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 10:35:05 EDT
Subject: Re: Left and Right

In a message dated 5/5/00 7:09:20 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
wishford-trucks.net writes:

<< (and if your
message says ILOVEYOU DON"T OPEN IT! :) >>

"hey you" is another one, sent me a trojan horse that my bro had to take
apart line by line. Id rather rebuild a Q-Jet then EVER do that again...

Darrell

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From: "Erik Marquez" alaska.com>
Subject: Re: rag joint
Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 07:04:30 -0800


>I got 2 that was splined on one end and smooth on the other.
>the splined ends would fit my steering box and my column shaft. On my
>way home I dropped by the hardware store and picked up some hollow bar
>stock that fit the smooth ends.
> I just simply welded one U-Joint to the new shaft I was making and cut
>it to the length I estimated and tried to test fit. I just simply kept
>cutting small amounts off until I got a fit that I felt comfortable with
>and then welded the 2nd joint to the shaft. (remember when 2 U-Joints
>are used on the same shaft for steering they must be positioned OUT!!!
>of phase.) Now I have a steering shaft at has no slop in it what so ever
>and will last much longer than me or the truck and it actually looks
>cool when the hood is open for truck shows and stuff too.

The only problem with this is you removed the slip shaft, your steering
shaft can not extend and retract as the body/frame/steering column/steering
gear box move in relation to each other. And there is the thought that if
you were to get into a front end accident the that steering shaft becomes a
nice spear into the passenger compartment,,,instead of collapsing into it
self. Flaming river as well as Borgenson sell the slip shaft section, that
you can add the u-joints to, or you can spend the big $$$$ (about$260) and
get a shaft that is made for your vehicle,,,no rag joint, real bearing U's,
and a slip shaft.

Erik Marquez
bronco78alaska.com
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Home of the BB decal


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From: "Erik Marquez" alaska.com>
Subject: what should be in it?
Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 08:49:56 -0800

Hey gang,, What should be in a 77 F150 as far as drive line.. I know it has
a 300ci motor and 4spd.. So does that imply (I have not seen the truck yet
and the owner did not know) it has a NP435?? what other 4spd Trans came with
the 300? What TC is most likely behind a 4spd and 300?? It has locking hubs
so unless it's been converted that takes away the full time TC.
I'm looking for a parts truck for my bronco.. I need a set of wheels and
tires to flat tow the bronco with this summer, need a NP205 to replace my
damaged one, would love to have a NP435 as a backup, and the D44 and 9" as
spares would be great.. I'll go look at it this evening if it sounds like
some of the parts I want will be on it.

Thanks

Erik Marquez
bronco78alaska.com
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Home of the BB decal


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Date: Fri, 05 May 2000 16:50:55 -0400
From: Joe & Jen DeLaurentis p3.net>
Subject: All Ford Carlisle....

Anybody going to the All For Carlisle in Pennsylvania June 2,3,4?????
Joe


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From: "Deacon" ford-trucks.com>
Subject: Re: Me again
Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 20:41:14 -0700

> things have been rather sterile since you Stu and Gary
> haven't been around to stir things up.

I couldn't sit back and let youngsters take over. ;] As much as I'll
miss Gary and Azie I wish them well and hope they return soon. But
what's up with Stu? When he was doing his resto he posted every day. I
fear now that he's finished he's been going out cruising on the wrong
side of the tracks and hanging with roughnecks, thugs and scalawags.
"Turn away Stu and come back, before it's too late"

or come and get me!! 8]


Later!

Deacon

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From: "Deacon" ford-trucks.com>
Subject: Re: Me again
Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 21:11:12 -0700

> So Deacon, any plans to be at Pigeon Forge
> for the Supernationals?

I wish I could. God knows I could use a brake from the stress, but I
can't.

When my fist clenches, crack it open
Before I use it and lose my cool
When I smile, tell me some bad news
Before I laugh and act like a fool

Later!

Deacon

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