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Received: with LISTAR (v0.128a; list 61-79-list); Tue, 02 May 2000 19:39:01 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 02 May 2000 19:39:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Ford Truck Enthusiasts List Server To: 61-79-list digest users Reply-to: 61-79-list  ford-trucks.com Subject: 61-79-list Digest V2000 #88 Precedence: bulk ========================================================== Ford Truck Enthusiasts 1961-1979 Truck Mailing List Visit our web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ford-trucks.com with the words "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the subject of the message. ========================================================== ------------------------------------ 61-79-list Digest Mon, 01 May 2000 Volume: 2000 Issue: 088 In This Issue: Dana 60 Brakes 460 conversion Re: Encouragement Please ? Me Again Re: Encouragement Please? Re: Encouragement Please? Re: Encouragement! Re: trans filters Re: Carb Question.... V-8 Tony????? ADMIN: Harley-Davidson F-150 crewcab door panels Re: Encouragement Please? Re: 69 bronco steering instrument panel Re: Encouragement Please? just a girl??? Re: Encouragement Please? Help finding firewall insulator pad! Re: Help finding firewall insulator pad! Re: Help finding firewall insulator pad! Re: Encouragement Please? T-Case oil Re: Encouragement Please? Re: Encouragement Please? Re: T-Case oil Re: Encouragement Please? Re: Parts Houses {was fuel pump block off plate} Re: Encouragement Please? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JUMPINFORD aol.com Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 19:43:14 EDT Subject: Dana 60 Brakes Calling all of you packrats! I need left and right caliper mounts for a dana 60 front. The ones on dads truck have spread apart from years of (ab)use with 38'' tires, and having been ground down to accept a 15'' rim. They will not hold the caliper, and alas, the boneyards here in town dont got what I need. Anyone have some? or how bout a part# so I can search for em new. Any info will help, Thanks Darrell Duggan 74 F-350 "tweety" ------------------------------ From: IanBoss69 aol.com Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 19:53:28 EDT Subject: 460 conversion Parts request time, I got the mounts taken care of, now I need to know where you guys got your headers at and maybe ask for some advice from those of you who have done the swap already, also will my 4spd flywheel and clutch assembly bolt up to the 460? Thanks in advance Ian 79 F250 4x4 4spd 351M( for now) True Blue Ford Blue ------------------------------ From: "Serian" Subject: Re: Encouragement Please ? Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 19:58:40 -0400 > I'm never getting my truck back in one piece. > I'm getting discouraged and FAST! The thought of parting it out > keeps crossing my mind. I'm tired of looking at it. My cab is sitting on > some old tires, covered with a blue tarp, under an oak tree with a large dead > limb waiting to fall on it. My bed is leaning against another tree, not > covered. There's some fenders, grill, bumpers...other stuff layin out there. > Right now, honestly all I can call my truck is the frame and the motor > (original 352). Oh yeah and its got the I Beams and rear end...so its on > tires and can be 'rolled' wherever. < > y'alls encouragement. Please tell me there's still hope?? I put so much > work into that truck...I hate to see it sold for parts. Get together a few strong friends and have them help you put the whole works back into running condition. Some of them might know a bit about how the parts go back together, and ifya get stuck or confused, this list is here to help. :-) Some of those parts are heavy ... too heavy for just one person, so help is definitely needed. 'tis what I do when I have a major automotive project. :-) ------------------------------ From: EffieFrd aol.com Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 20:08:17 EDT Subject: Me Again When I wrote that letter this morning...I guess I didn't get my question out right. I don't need to know HOW to get the truck back together. Dad will do it...one day...maybe. I need to know...after sitting for 2 years will the parts still be ok? Will it be ok to put back together? Could the cab or bed get warped sitting like they are? That's what I'm discouraged about. Thanks again. :o) ~Mel 1965 F100 Custom Cab...currently in 12,000 pieces :o( ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 20:51:32 -0400 From: Ken Payne Subject: Re: Encouragement Please? At 10:07 AM 5/1/00 -0400, you wrote: >Ok Guys, I give up. Its been 2 years...count 'em TWO YEARS since dad took my >truck apart. And take it apart he did. Nobody believes me but I'm telling >you there are 12,000 pieces. Anyhow...I give up. He's getting more achy >everyday (bad back, bum leg...if I wake up to the smell of that dad gum Flex >All one more time...) He's always got something more important to do than my >truck. (like that stupid D*dge he drives) I'm never getting my truck back in >one piece. I'm getting discouraged and FAST! The thought of parting it out >keeps crossing my mind. I'm tired of looking at it. My cab is sitting on >some old tires, covered with a blue tarp, under an oak tree with a large dead >limb waiting to fall on it. My bed is leaning against another tree, not >covered. There's some fenders, grill, bumpers...other stuff layin out there. > Right now, honestly all I can call my truck is the frame and the motor >(original 352). Oh yeah and its got the I Beams and rear end...so its on >tires and can be 'rolled' wherever. < >y'alls encouragement. Please tell me there's still hope?? I put so much >work into that truck...I hate to see it sold for parts. Thanks for listening >to me whine. :o) > >~Mel >1965 F100 Custom Cab...Currently in 12,000 pieces. :o( Get in touch with me privately off the list. I'll hook you up with the Georgia LoRiders (you are in Georgia, aren't you?). There's nothing like getting in touch with local people to help a) fire you up and b) get some help. We're having a meeting this Thursday. Ken Payne ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 21:06:32 -0400 From: Ken Payne Subject: Re: Encouragement Please? At 10:07 AM 5/1/00 -0400, you wrote: >Ok Guys, I give up. Its been 2 years...count 'em TWO YEARS since dad took my >truck apart. And take it apart he did. Nobody believes me but I'm telling >you there are 12,000 pieces. Anyhow...I give up. He's getting more achy >everyday (bad back, bum leg...if I wake up to the smell of that dad gum Flex >All one more time...) He's always got something more important to do than my -snip- Almost forgot.... the great thing about the club is that the ladies there are either into repairing the trucks or they are very understanding of the hobby. Peggy met a couple of the gals that she really likes. Ken ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 18:12:35 -0700 From: CLAUDE JONES Subject: Re: Encouragement! Heck, Mel If you were my daughter you'd be turning the wrench right alone side me! haha :o) Nothing greater than the pleasure of knowing you can do it yourself, what ever the project and for a Dad nothing greater than having your kids work on it alone side of you! Ask him if there is something that you can do to help! if you show interest in learning I'm sure he'll get motivated agian. Be a little patient :o) Just my to cents!! CJ (the other one!) 66F250, CC/CS 352/NP435 NV ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 20:17:56 -0500 Subject: Re: trans filters From: Brett L Habben That jogs the old memory bank why the tranny cooler is in the radiator and not separate like all the other coolers strung under the front end. When the first dinosaurs roaming the great white north got automatics they had a problem. The tranny cases were vented. The friction material in the clutches were made of paper. Water vapor condensed in the case, collected in the fluid, and destroyed the clutch packs. They killed two birds with one stone by running the tranny fluid through a heat exchanger with the engine coolant. The engine coolant thermostat regulates both the engine temperature and (crudely) the transmission temperature. Heating the tranny fluid in the winter got rid of the condensation and the automatic equipped dinosaurs roamed the tundra again. Brett Super75cab >In the winter, I reverse the lines so that the fluid goes through the >cooler, then into the radiator and back to the trans. This lets the engine >thermostat work to keep the fluid warm. Trans temp runs about 160 - 180 in >the winter. >BTW, I use only 100% synthetic trans fluid - and do a total replacement (not >just drain the pan) about every other year. >Jim McCarty >PaPaw's original owner '73 F100 390 w/C6 ________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 19:48:18 -0500 Subject: Re: Carb Question.... From: Brett L Habben ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 08:29:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Dan Lee Subject: Re: Carb Question... Here's an AFB/Performer Chart (Please correct me if this is wrong): CFM Primary Venturi Secondary Venturi Primary Bore Secondary Bore +++ ++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++ ++++++++++ +++++++++++++ 400 1-1/8" 1-1/4" 1-7/16" 1-7/16" 500 1-3/16" 1-1/4" 1-7/16" 1-11/16" 575 1-1/4" 1-9/16" 1-9/16" 1-11/16" 625 1-3/16" 1-9/16" 1-7/16" 1-11/16" 750 1-7/16" 1-9/16" 1-11/16" 1-11/16" For what it's worth, here's my humble opinion on the 500 vs. 625 arguement. Compare the primaries of the 500 and 625 carbs. They are the same. The secondaries are what's different. Also, the secondary velocity valve ultimately limits secondary airflow. Given that information why buy the 500? Besides, you might want to stick it on another engine later on and you know how that goes: it's gotta be bigger. Brett Super75cab ________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 18:53:25 -0700 From: scott Subject: V-8 Tony????? >>>>>>>>>> I'm pulling my 300 4V outta my '76 F-250 4x4, and putting a 390 in its place... (don't worry, that hoppin' mad 300 is going in my 67 shortbed stepside 2 wheeler! >>>>>>>>>I have a few basic questions though- >>>>>>>>>First off- the donor 390 was backed by a C-6 Automatic. I'm going >>>>>>>>to put it on my NP435. Do I need to change the harmonic balancer to >>>>>>>>>the stick shift one I have from my original 360, or is it ok to put >>>>>>>>the heavy flywheel for the stick on the auto tranny damper? I did not know they were different,and if they are I have run my 76 w/both types and not had a problem. >>>>>>>>Secondly-- Carburation is a big question right now-- I'm putting on >>>>>>>>long tube headers, a cast iron 4v intake, and stock cam. What CFM do >>>>>>>>you recommend? I'm leaving towards something around the 600 rating, >>>>>>>>(and YES, it must be a carter or an edelbrock, please do not tell me >>>>>>>>how wonderful holley's are!) 8-) Go with a 625 Carter.I have used the same one on a 360 a 390 and a 428. Changed the rods and jets as neeeded >>>>>>>>>> but the only thing summit carries is a Chevy model >>>>>>>>>>in the manual choke! Tony,thats small "c" ch*vy.Any how call Summit and tell them what you want.I'm sure they can set you up.If they can't help you email me off list and I will go to the Summit warehouse here in Reno and see what I can do. >>>>>>>>>> Will the chevy linkage carb work for me? >>>>>>>>>>I mean, as long as it's on the same side, and pulls in teh same >>>>>>>>>>direction, I can fab something up, and since I'm not running an >>>>>>>>>>>automatic kickdown or anything, then that linkage isn't an issue. The ch*vy carb would probably work.I used to run a 650 Holley that came off a friends g*c.But beings as you are already changing the engine,whose to say you won't change to a A/T down the road?Try and get the right linkage if possible. >>>>>>>>>>>While the motor is out, I'm taking the heads off to have some >>>>>>>>>>>exhaust manifold holes worked on... I was thinking about thowing a >>>>>>>>>>mild cam in there while I was at it. Bear with me as I have ZERO >>>>>>>>>>V8 experience-- Pull the timing chain off, can I just slide that >>>>>>>>>>cam out and slide in a new one without having to worry about cam >>>>>>>>>>bearings falling out? (i know I have to pick out all the lifters) >>>>>>>>> What do you guys think? It will slide right out. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 22:23:13 -0400 From: Ken Payne Subject: ADMIN: Harley-Davidson F-150 Two new press releases are on the web site: "Ford of Canada announces production details, pricing for Harley-Davidson F-150 pickup" "Patricia Reid named new manager of Ford's Ontario Truck Plant" Both are available on the top-left of the main site screen. Ken Payne Admin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts ------------------------------ From: "Bob & Becky Elliott" Subject: crewcab door panels Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 17:43:26 -0500 Does anyone know where I can find the plastic door panels for the back doors of a 79 crewcab? Front doors are no problem, but I haven't found the rear advertised anyplace. Thanks for the help, Bob ------------------------------ From: "Bertolin" Subject: Re: Encouragement Please? Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 20:50:43 -0700 Mel, if you're high school age, maybe you could sign up for an auto mechanics class at school. I may be dating myself since I don't know if such a thing is still offered, but it was when I was in high school. It may give you a jump start and get your Dad to thinking that you're not just a helpless female. I seriously considered taking the auto mechanics class but I ended up feeling too intimidated since I would have been the only female in the class. My Dad however was great about teaching me and letting me help him. The more you can learn the better even if you never work on a vehicle yourself. I have a 1965 that I've done some work on. At least with the classic trucks, you can recognize everything under the hood. Best wishes to you in getting that '65 up and running. Here in Arizona, parts seem to last for years. My brother's back yard is a good example. Roberta w/1965 F-100 Custom Cab >>>>snip<<<<< > Well, if I could...I would have a long time ago. I'm just a girl and dad > won't let me work on it...he thinks I don't know anything. > > ~Mel ------------------------------ From: "Tim and Pam Allgire" Subject: Re: 69 bronco steering Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 00:10:14 -0400 Does your Bronco have a steering stabilizer on it? If it doesn't--it will be a great addition for handling and better safety. Also dual shock set-up on each corner would help. -----Original Message----- From: SROTH84 aol.com To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com <61-79-list ford-trucks.com> Date: Monday, May 01, 2000 2:51 PM Subject: [61-79-list] 69 bronco steering >Hello folks, > >I am giving my 69 bronco to my teenage twin boys. The trouble is that I put a >3" lift, 33's, and power steering on the truck. It know is much harder to >keep on the road, especially above 50 miles an hour. Even at slower speeds on >bumpy roads. I want the boys to be safe. Is there something that can be done >other than extra seat belts? > >Steve in St. Louis >========================================================== >To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ford-trucks.com with >the words "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the subject of the >message. > ------------------------------ From: "gene gardner" Subject: instrument panel Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 21:04:49 PDT >The curved plexiglass in front of gauges has turned yellow Same problem in my '70. Had some rectangular pieces of clear plastic in the basement (can't remember what they were originally used for, or even if they were plexiglass), pulled the panel, stuck one in, voila. Good as new after 3 years. Be careful if you ever clean it though, might crack if you push too hard. AMHIK (Ask Me How I Know). Texican Teacher 70 F100 w 300-I6 ________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ From: "Tim and Pam Allgire" Subject: Re: Encouragement Please? Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 00:22:32 -0400 Why don't you put it back together?? It's just like putting together a big 3-D puzzle.A repair manual will help.It will show exploded views of just about everything that can be taken apart & put back together. -----Original Message----- From: EffieFrd aol.com To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com <61-79-list ford-trucks.com>; LuvMyEffie aol.com aol.com Rodn56efie aol.com aol.com Date: Monday, May 01, 2000 10:21 AM Subject: [61-79-list] Encouragement Please? >Ok Guys, I give up. Its been 2 years...count 'em TWO YEARS since dad took my >truck apart. And take it apart he did. Nobody believes me but I'm telling >you there are 12,000 pieces. Anyhow...I give up. He's getting more achy >everyday (bad back, bum leg...if I wake up to the smell of that dad gum Flex >All one more time...) He's always got something more important to do than my >truck. (like that stupid D*dge he drives) I'm never getting my truck back in >one piece. I'm getting discouraged and FAST! The thought of parting it out >keeps crossing my mind. I'm tired of looking at it. My cab is sitting on >some old tires, covered with a blue tarp, under an oak tree with a large dead >limb waiting to fall on it. My bed is leaning against another tree, not >covered. There's some fenders, grill, bumpers...other stuff layin out there. > Right now, honestly all I can call my truck is the frame and the motor >(original 352). Oh yeah and its got the I Beams and rear end...so its on >tires and can be 'rolled' wherever. < >y'alls encouragement. Please tell me there's still hope?? I put so much >work into that truck...I hate to see it sold for parts. Thanks for listening >to me whine. :o) > >~Mel >1965 F100 Custom Cab...Currently in 12,000 pieces. :o( >========================================================== >To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ford-trucks.com with >the words "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the subject of the >message. > ------------------------------ From: A61fordtruck aol.com Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 00:20:35 EDT Subject: just a girl??? In a message dated 05/01/2000 5:17:21 PM EST, listar ford-trucks.com writes: > Well, if I could...I would have a long time ago. I'm just a girl and dad > won't let me work on it...he thinks I don't know anything. > > ~Mel Mel, wait until he's sleeping, and get out your tools, an assembly manuel (look on ebay) call some strong boys over, and just do it. putting a truck together is like putting a model car together, only it doesnt take as long for the glue to dry! even as we speak, i am putting together my own 65 custom cab. they are pretty straightforward. hang in there. greg 61 stepside 65 customcab, 460 swap ------------------------------ From: "G & J Boling" Subject: Re: Encouragement Please? Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 05:46:42 -0400 > > Well, if I could...I would have a long time ago. I'm just a girl and dad > > won't let me work on it...he thinks I don't know anything. > > > > ~Mel ========================================================== HI MEL My BEST HELPER here is my girls and my WIFE she [wife] has more patience than I do anymore and helps me to see where I might have messed up on something WE work TOGETHER on EVERYTHING she is NO TOMBOY either really and is NEVER mistaken to be anything other than a women believe me we have just about redone a 62 thunderbird together and are now working on a daily driver 69 f 100 don't let being a girl stop you I have 1 daughter now who is taking wood shop and another soon to be taking it also they do better than most of the boys do even they have both had the schools TRY to discourage them from this also seeing as how they are the only girls in their classes to do so my advice is GO FOR IT TRY to get DAD to let you help as long as your not afraid of getting skinned up knuckles and a little grease under you nails it all washes off eventually DON'T GIVE UP GORDON ------------------------------ From: "R. B. Morris, Jr." Subject: Help finding firewall insulator pad! Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 06:53:21 -0400 HELP+ACE- I dismantled my truck ('70 F100 ) two summers ago to restore it and the firewall pad just disintegrated in my hands+ACE- I'm now to the point where I want to start reassembly and I CAN'T, cause I don't have this pad. Is anyone on the list parting out a vehicle with a good pad. Please don't send me to Dennis Carpenter, or Macs', or Autokrafters, 'cause I've already been there and they're all WAY beyond the truck budget set by SWMBO...and all are made of plastic.... TIA Kind Regards, Rogers Morris rbmii+AEA-msn.com (hm) bmorris+AEA-visteon.com (wk) http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://homepages.msn.com/HobbyCt/rbmii/ ------------------------------ From: "G & J Boling" Subject: Re: Help finding firewall insulator pad! Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 07:22:43 -0400 > HELP+ACE- I dismantled my truck ('70 F100 ) two summers ago to restore it and > the firewall pad just disintegrated in my hands+ACE- > \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ HI heres what i have done a few times for this same thing i have taken aluminum foil the good heavy stuff then used the spray on type insulation to coat it then installed it ANOTHER WAY is too get some of the industrial insulation or batting as its called and install it there also its a little less messy also gordon ------------------------------ From: "Keith Kubiak" <55fordf100 home.com> Subject: Re: Help finding firewall insulator pad! Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 05:09:34 -0700 JC Whitney sells firewall insulation padding by the roll. You will have to measure and cut it though. I've used it both on the firewall inside the engine compartment and inside the cab. Helps deaden the noise and keep the temperature inside the cab cooler. 68 Ford F250 4x4 55 Ford F100 68 IH Scout 65 AMC Marlin (On the way) ----- Original Message ----- From: "R. B. Morris, Jr." To: <:61-79-list ford-trucks.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2000 3:53 AM Subject: [61-79-list] Help finding firewall insulator pad! > HELP+ACE- I dismantled my truck ('70 F100 ) two summers ago to restore it and > the firewall pad just disintegrated in my hands+ACE- I'm now to the point where > I want to start reassembly and I CAN'T, cause I don't have this pad. Is > anyone on the list parting out a vehicle with a good pad. Please don't send > me to Dennis Carpenter, or Macs', or Autokrafters, 'cause I've already been > there and they're all WAY beyond the truck budget set by SWMBO...and all are > made of plastic.... > TIA > Kind Regards, > Rogers Morris > rbmii+AEA-msn.com (hm) > bmorris+AEA-visteon.com (wk) > http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://homepages.msn.com/HobbyCt/rbmii/ > > > > ========================================================== > To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ford-trucks.com with > the words "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the subject of the > message. > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 May 2000 09:04:08 -0400 From: Ted Wnorowski Subject: Re: Encouragement Please? At 10:25 AM 5/1/00 -0500, you wrote: >As for not knowing anything, we >all started out that way. I resemble that remark ! Ted Wnorowski Bellevue,OH ' 64 F-250 352 transplant 4 speed ' 63 F-100 parts truck W/more kidney stones in tow ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 May 2000 14:33:11 +0000 (GMT) From: David Henderson Subject: T-Case oil Question for the group: I replaced the oil in my NP235 T-Case over the weekend. I used Valvoline SAE-50 oil, but should I have used a non-detergent oil? I need to know as I'm about to haul a U-Haul trailer for a friend from Virginia to Texas this coming weekend. Thanks!! Dave H PS I'm in digest mode right now, so if you reply, could you please also send a copy to mailto:DHenders VT.Edu -- _ _| ~~. David Henderson, M.Sc. \, _} DHenders VT.Edu \( Gig 'em Aggies! '93 Currently at: Interdepartmental Genetics Program 2010 Litton Reaves Hall Department of Dairy Science Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University Blacksburg, VA 24061 Phone: (540)231-4773 Fax: (540)231-5014 E-Mail: DHenders VT.Edu http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.dasc.vt.edu/henderson/dhenderson.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 May 2000 08:41:48 -0500 Subject: Re: Encouragement Please? From: "John LaGrone" >>As for not knowing anything, we >>all started out that way. > > I resemble that remark ! Now, now, Ted, don't get ruffled, let me clarify. :-) We were all born with no learned behaviors or societal knowledge. We all started out knowing nothing but what our instincts told us. We start to learn as soon as...well that is debatable. Anyway, you do resemble that remark as do we all. Some of us resemble it more than others (oh...I just couldn't resist.) -- John jlagrone ford-trucks.com <]:-) <]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-) 1979 F150 Custom, Long Wide Bed, Regular Cab, 351M, C6 (Henry) http://www.ford-trucks.com/jlagrone/henry.home.htm Dearborn iron rules!!!! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 May 2000 09:54:24 -0400 From: Ted Wnorowski Subject: Re: Encouragement Please? At 08:41 AM 5/2/00 -0500, you wrote: > > I resemble that remark ! > >Now, now, Ted, don't get ruffled, let me clarify. Oh, hey no problem. I meant this literally more than figuratively. Most of the time I'm learning more than I'd like to ! : ) Ted Wnorowski Bellevue,OH ' 64 F-250 352 transplant 4 speed ' 63 F-100 parts truck W/more kidney stones in tow ------------------------------ From: "Sean O'Malley" Subject: Re: T-Case oil Date: Tue, 2 May 100 11:18:55 -0400 (EDT) > I replaced the oil in my NP235 T-Case over the weekend. I used Valvoline > SAE-50 oil, but should I have used a non-detergent oil? Check your manual, if you still have it, but off the top of my head I'm thinking yes, you should use non-detergent. Detergent oils suspend dirt particles to make it easier to filter them. Since a T-case has no filter, you want the particles to precipitate out... --sean ------------------------------ From: "Alex Cook" Subject: Re: Encouragement Please? Date: Tue, 02 May 2000 17:14:33 GMT Mel, A '65 Ford is a beautiful truck, and you shouldn't let it go out of frustration. There is a lot of stuff you can do on your own to get the ball the rolling, and I'm sure your dad won't be able to just watch for long. Maybe you won't be able to do every last detail, but not many can. Honestly, unless your dad physically won't let you touch the truck (which would be ridiculous) this is something you can do if you really want to do it. It is intimidating, but the best way to learn is to jump in. And I don't think "I'm just a girl" is a good excuse. There are plenty of women who work on their own vehicles, and many who do full restorations on their own. I have a good friend (who happens to be a girl) who is doing a frame off restoration of a '63 Mercury right now. She didn't know everything when she got started, but she did it none the less--and its going quite well. It sounds like your frame and engine are pretty well intact. That's good news. If your major parts are not rusty or rotted, not much stands in your way of at least reassembling it. If there is rust, getting rid of it is not super hard depending on how much there is. If the rust is bad, you may need to sand and paint the frame. It will take up a weekend, but it's a labor of love. If I can do it, you definitely can. Spend a day at the library, and get your self some good shop manuals or restoration books and read up! If your dad doesn't think you know anything, he's got another thing coming. Besides, your not the one who took it apart in the first place. I bet that if you show him you are serious about the truck by doing some work yourself, he'll want to see it run as bad as you do. And remember, ask lots of questions. This Ford list you E-mailed is very forgiving, and there are no stupid questions. there's lots of experience here, and almost all are willing to share it. Good Luck. ________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ From: canzus seanet.com Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 17:39:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Parts Houses {was fuel pump block off plate} At 08:18 AM 01:05:2000 -0700, Hogan, Tom wrote: >> " those guys don't >> know how to read >> a parts book, what did you expect??" >> > >You would think that the manager of the parts store/chain would want to >know/fix this. He has parts taking up space on his shelves and costing him >money to keep and the people working for him aren't able to move them/make >him some money. The manager is aware of the problem, as of today. I was in the store today to order up timing gears for the MG {2.6L V6 Capri engine}. As usual I was told that the computer "doesn't go yada yada yada". So I asked to talk to the manager, I requested that someone look up the part in a book, I got the "blank Pay-n-Pak employee stare". He asks the ape behind the counter to get him the Sealed Power book, What year? he asks, '72, I says, 159ci? He asks, yup says I, "Order a 221-27625A, that'll be $71.77, and should be here Thursday." He said. "Can I talk to you privately?" I ask after paying for the special order. "Sure". I basically told him that if he wanted to compete with NAPA and Carquest in this area he's got to get some experienced parts counter people, some that can read a parts book, and are bright enough to remember what they're there for, as in customer service. It seems he wasn't aware of the magnitude of the problem... Just a funny story while I was standing in a Schucks one day; Young kid walks in with a chrome dress-up kit for a mouse motor, says it doesn't fit, I ask him what motor is in the car, a 350, Bui*k, Ch*vy, Odds, or Pont*ac I ask, I dunno he says, what kind of car? Bui*k he says, It used to be a deisel, but now it's a gas 350, You need a kit for an Odds 350 I tell him, He didn't believe me.... Steve & the Rockette 68 F100, 390cid, FMX 63 F100, 292cid, 3speed 72 Capri 2000, hers 73 Capri 2600,tube frame going in..... 73 MGB GT, Our Toy 94 SHO, SWMBO's 98 Contour SVT, Mine, Mine, All Mine.... ------------------------------ From: canzus seanet.com Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 17:39:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Encouragement Please? At 11:05 AM 01:05:2000 EDT, EffieFrd aol.com wrote: >jlagrone ford-trucks.com writes: > >< < Put it back together yourself. > > > >Well, if I could...I would have a long time ago. I'm just a girl and dad.... To access the rest of this feature you must be a logged in Registered User Of Ford Truck Enthusiasts
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