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61-79-list Digest Sun, 30 Apr 2000 Volume: 2000 Issue: 087

In This Issue:
Re: 460 4 speed saga
Re: I need your Wisdom!
Re: 460 4 speed saga
Trans Filters
Making the best of the "Zone".
Re: 360 ENGINES
Re: Cool Tranny
390 / swap- info request
Re: Leaf Springs
Re: new e-bay automotive section
Re: [Fwd: 351C 2V engine]
truck for sale
Encouragement Please?
Re: Carb Recomendation
Re: Auto Zone 101
Re: Encouragement Please?
61-79-list ford-trucks.com
Re: Auto Zone 101
Fuel System Modification for 69 F250
Re: Encouragement Please?
Re: fuel pump block off plate
'67 f100 questions
Re: Encouragement Please?
Re: Carb Question...
Re: Encouragement Please?
Re: Encouragement Please?
Re: '67 f100 questions
Re: Encouragement Please?
Lube in limited slip diff
69 bronco steering
Re: 69 bronco steering]
Re: 69 bronco steering
Re: 69 bronco steering
Re: Trans Filters

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From: "Keith Kubiak" <55fordf100 home.com>
Subject: Re: 460 4 speed saga
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 20:39:45 -0700

I have a 68 F250 4x4 with a 390. I used the old 10" Flywheel and clutch from
a 360 and really wished I hadn't. During heavy hauling such as my 10 foot
camper or pulling cars out of the ditch, it slips. I also wear out the
clutch faster than I would like. If it was me, I would go for the 390 11"
with a good centerforce or equivalent clutch.

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> Do they make it in a 10 inch? Im runnin a 360 flywheel, has the smaller
disk.
>
> Darrell
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From: "George Litton" hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: I need your Wisdom!
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 21:47:04 PDT

DARRELL,

I just did a 400 to 460 swap in my 78 2wd 3/4 ton. I used all the same
stuff as you. I used a 400 bushing. Local parts guys couldn't find one
with a bearing. Anyhow, check your 460 crank flange. Some will take the
400 bushing, some won't.

The ones that do have two steps in the flange.

Be persistent!! Do not let this stop you from keeping this truck!!


>From: JUMPINFORD aol.com
>Reply-To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
>To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com, perf-list ford-trucks.com,
>offroad-list ford-trucks.com
>Subject: [61-79-list] I need your Wisdom!
>Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 00:03:33 EDT
>
>Ok folks, here it is. I just finished searching the archives, and EVERY
>SINGLE person that has done a 460 4speed combo has done it differently.
>Some
>machine down 460 flywheels to fit in 400 bellhousings, some have flywheels
>redrilled to work with different pressure plates, some have done stuff that
>seems to wierd even for me. So here it is. the C-6 in Tweety died today,
>dumped all its oil out the bellhousing. I have acquired the parts I
>thought
>necessary, they list as follows:
>
>Pedal assembly & clutch linkage from a 78 Bronco
>Bellhousing for a 400 from said Bronco
>360 Flywheel, freshly surfaced, with a new ring gear.
>360 pressure plate and clutch disk
>Warn T-18
>the long forward driveshaft
>manual tranny steering column
>floor pan for a manual
>
>I dont have the pilot bushing, or the throwout bearing yet. I assume a 400
>T/O bushing will work, but I am lost as to the pilot bushing, and whether
>or
>not I'll even be able to bolt it all together. Im lookin in your direction
>Azie, but anyone else with the right info, I need ya. If I cant make this
>work, Im afraid to say Tweety is going to have to be sold for parts, so I
>can
>get something that goes. I cant have this truck down, as it is how I get
>to
>work and back. I dont wanna think about that, as Ive put a lot of hard
>work
>into it, and I do NOT want something so stupid as a pilot bushing problem
>to
>get in the way.
>
>Thanks
>
>Darrell Duggan
>74 F-350 "Tweety" VERY SICK
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From: "George Litton" hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: 460 4 speed saga
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 21:54:26 PDT

Darrell,

I forgot to mention, I used a Centerforce clutch kit with my 400-460 swap.
Expensive, but worth it. No left-legitis. Pedal pressure so light that my
5'-0" wife can drive it no problem. I even pull a loaded car trailer with
no slippage. Good Luck!!


>From: JUMPINFORD aol.com
>Reply-To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
>To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
>Subject: [61-79-list] 460 4 speed saga
>Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 12:58:52 EDT
>
>Howdy folks, thought Id fill ya in on the efforts to putting a t-18 in
>Tweety. Old tranny is out, Piece of cake. Im gettin good at yankin
>automatics, which is why Im gettin rid of it. Somethings you should just
>never have to be able to do with your eyes closed on the same vehicle.
>Points, yes, by all means, but DEFINATELY not trannys. Well the 360
>flywheel
>bolted up fine, and Azie, the 400 pilot bushing works great, trimed the
>.002
>myself with a hand file and a lil ingenuity. However, a 360 clutch
>assembly
>will not fit in a 400 bellhousing, at least not the one I have. The fork
>hits the pressure plate. I am going to be looking for a diaphram style
>pressure plate, and having the flywheel redrilled for it. I have one from
>a
>460, gotta check a few more before I do it though. But its going well all
>things considered. Im actually enjoying this, because its kind of like a
>puzzle, without a reference picture and a few extra pieces tossed in to
>give
>ya headaches. I like this kind of problem solving. Its great. Plus I
>keep
>reminding myself how much fun its gonna be to be able to launch at 4000
>rpms,
>and bark the shifts. Thank god for Discount Tires road hazard warrenty, or
>I
>might have tostart buying rear tires every 6 months. Yall have a great
>day.
>
>Darrell Duggan
>74 F-350 "Tweety"
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From: "Pat" aisl.bc.ca>
Subject: Trans Filters
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 23:27:53 -0700

Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 00:24:35 -0700
From: Marv & Marge lafn.org>

"Pat" aisl.bc.ca> wrote:
> What about filters and thermostats on the tranny? Makes sense to me.


Thermostats? Why? Cooler is better. Way cooler is way better. Of course,
I live in Los Angeles where we don't think about sub-zero oil performances.

The guy that was running one on his hybrid 73-79 F250 500 h.p. 4X4 lived in
the North country. Up there it does get cold enough. In fact any place that
is below freezing probably would benefit, especially if there's a major
cooler and filter in line. Thanks for the info. on the tranny filters.
Filters, coolers, thermostats. Be Kind To Transmissions Week!!
Like the info from Deacon on why shift kits are a good thing. Thanks
Pat



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From: pdesanto Cinergy.com
Subject: Making the best of the "Zone".
Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 04:44:11 -0400

Bill-
I sure agree with you on your assessment of counter help and catalog
reading skills at Autozone. Too bad more management types didn't follow your
example. I've been treated both ways at our 2 local "Zones". I've had the "
0ur computers don't go back that far.". and the, "Let me pull some old
catalogs out, I'm sure we can find it somewhere". Overall, they've been very
helpful though. And your sure right about the different quality levels of
the parts. If it's too cheap to believe, then it's too cheap to believe it's
any good.
We also have a local chain of stores that been here for 30 years plus.
It's family run and the "old guy" is the patriarch of the bunch. He has more
stuff in his head then most computer systems. I swear he can find ANYTHING
if given the time. I worked for him when I was in high school and college
and never learned more; or had more fun. It's been over 25 years and I
STILL remember gasket and ignition part numbers that he made us memorize so
we wouldn't have to look em up. If you screwed up an order he banished you
to stocking shelves until he felt you could handle it. He's still going
strong at 80 ! I was just in there getting some old Galaxie parts. (Ford
content) :-)
Thanx for the primer on Autozone, Phil ( anybody need a set of A-120
Borg-Warner points ?)


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From: "G & J Boling" alltel.net>
Subject: Re: 360 ENGINES
Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 06:49:50 -0400

I have a 69 f 100 with the 360 motor in it i am sticking a HOLLEY
STREETMASTER intake on it i have to turn it into a 4bbl engine i would like
to find out the stock H.P. on it and the compression ratio for it
i do know the 69 390s had a 10:to 1 compression and even with the 2bbl carbs
were recommended to use premium fuel
is this 360 the same way also
thanks
gordon


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From: Rubberducky23 webtv.net (Danny Ling)
Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 07:33:18 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: Re: Cool Tranny

My final year at Warren Occupational Technical College we did an
experiment with a C4 tranny. We established that over 80% of the heat
developed within an automatic transmission is created in the torque
converter. the heat developed by the pump, clutches and bands applying
and releasing and internal friction only accounts for 20% and that
figure makes it relatively insignificant as a heat factor.
Heat is the #1 destroyer of auto's. Automatic transmission fluid is
not a very good lubricant. its more of a hydraulic fluid that has
friction properties added to it to assist the clutches and bands in
holding the drums. when the fluid gets hot it can cavitate and the
viscosity can drop as well. also heat can cause the friction properties
to change within the fluid. Heat can also cause carbon to be created if
the fluid burns causing the fluid to basically be liquid sandpaper.
An automatic transmission shifts smoothly by literally going into 2
gears at once. In other words the clutches and/or bands needed for the
next gear will apply before the clutches or bands release for the
previous gear. If a automatic goes into neutral during a shift its
called a "runaway shift" and usually indicates transmission rebuild is
needed. A shift kit just simply changes the timing of this operation by
making the next gear apply and last gear release in a shorter amount of
time.

I hope this clarifies things a little.
Laters, Danny Ling


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Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 09:03:45 -0400
From: Tony Marino raex.com>
Subject: 390 / swap- info request

Hey all-- To make a long story short, I'm pulling my 300 4V outta my '76
F-250 4x4, and putting a 390 in its place... (don't worry, that hoppin' mad
300 is going in my 67 shortbed stepside 2 wheeler!)

I have a few basic questions though-

First off- the donor 390 was backed by a C-6 Automatic. I'm going to put
it on my NP435. Do I need to change the harmonic balancer to the stick
shift one I have from my original 360, or is it ok to put the heavy
flywheel for the stick on the auto tranny damper?

Secondly-- Carburation is a big question right now-- I'm putting on long
tube headers, a cast iron 4v intake, and stock cam. What CFM do you
recommend? I'm leaving towards something around the 600 rating, (and YES,
it must be a carter or an edelbrock, please do not tell me how wonderful
holley's are!) 8-) but the only thing summit carries is a Chevy model
in the manual choke! Will the chevy linkage carb work for me? I mean, as
long as it's on the same side, and pulls in teh same direction, I can fab
something up, and since I'm not running an automatic kickdown or anything,
then that linkage isn't an issue.

While the motor is out, I'm taking the heads off to have some exhaust
manifold holes worked on... I was thinking about thowing a mild cam in
there while I was at it. Bear with me as I have ZERO V8
experience-- Pull the timing chain off, can I just slide that cam out and
slid in a new one without having to worry about cam bearings falling
out? (i know I have to pick out all the lifters) What do you guys think?

Thanks-

Tony Marino
redneck raex.com


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From: "Arnie and his F250 G" hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Leaf Springs
Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 08:19:09 CDT

I think i might have place for you.
Discount Auto Salvage Exchange,
3300 S. IH 35W - exit #30
Alvarado, Tx 76009

817-447-3131
(metro - 790-2272)

Hope this helps,
Arny


From: "Christopher Worley" hotmail.com>
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To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: [61-79-list] Leaf Springs
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 18:39:42 PDT

Does anyone in the Dallas/Ft. Worth area know of a good place to buy a new
set of leaf springs for a '67 F-100 LWB, if all else fails maybe a place
that can re-arch the ones I have.

TIA

Chris
67 F100 (Ground up restore)

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From: draco pacifier.com
Subject: Re: new e-bay automotive section
Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 06:26:12 -0700 (PDT)

Ted wrote:
> Use the "Personal Shopper" feature that they have. This is the URL
> for my daily "Ford Truck" results:
> http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://grass.ebay.com/go/1/11493029/2255

Thanks Ted,

I get the same results if I use "ford truck" as the search string with the
quotes. I went to Automotive:Parts & Accessories, used "Ford Truck" as
the search string, and got 90 items which are of the type I want to see.

Testing the search strings in the old Automotive section, the search
string ford truck yeilds 65 items where "ford truck" yeilds 39 items
missing anything where the person said for example "Ford F100" or "Ford
Pickup Truck". Since I can't use ford trucks in the new Automotive
section I guess it will have to do.


Mark in Southwest Washington
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--
'74 F-100 Ranger XLT 4X4
in digest mode


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Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 06:49:46 -0700
From: Dennis Pearson ctc.edu>
Subject: Re: [Fwd: 351C 2V engine]

Thanks for your message at 03:56 PM 4/28/00 EDT, SevnD2 aol.com. Your
message was:
>The 351 Cleveland is not a truck engine really.
>

Excuse me...? I have a truck. That truck has a 351C engine in it.
Really. That makes it a truck engine...!

( : > ) )


Dennis Pearson in Kennewick, WA

1962 Unibody, short box, big window--351C
1966 F250 Custom Cab, 352, 4-speed
1962 short stepside (Cadillac 500)
I shortened this to only FT's

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From: "Michael Ray Jones" lcc.net>
Subject: truck for sale
Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 08:47:27 -0500


There's a truck here for sale that I thought someone on the list maybe interested in. It's about a 69 or 70 F100 4X4. It's rigged as a hunting truck with a platform and shooting seats in the back behind the cab. The body appears to be straight, and it has a pretty good-looking home-made camo paint job. If anybody is interested, let me know, and I'll get you the number. It has $1800 on the windshield, and the truck is Lufkin, TX, about 2 hours north of Houston.


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From: EffieFrd aol.com
Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 10:07:01 EDT
Subject: Encouragement Please?

Ok Guys, I give up. Its been 2 years...count 'em TWO YEARS since dad took my
truck apart. And take it apart he did. Nobody believes me but I'm telling
you there are 12,000 pieces. Anyhow...I give up. He's getting more achy
everyday (bad back, bum leg...if I wake up to the smell of that dad gum Flex
All one more time...) He's always got something more important to do than my
truck. (like that stupid D*dge he drives) I'm never getting my truck back in
one piece. I'm getting discouraged and FAST! The thought of parting it out
keeps crossing my mind. I'm tired of looking at it. My cab is sitting on
some old tires, covered with a blue tarp, under an oak tree with a large dead
limb waiting to fall on it. My bed is leaning against another tree, not
covered. There's some fenders, grill, bumpers...other stuff layin out there.
Right now, honestly all I can call my truck is the frame and the motor
(original 352). Oh yeah and its got the I Beams and rear end...so its on
tires and can be 'rolled' wherever. < > What am I gonna do? I need
y'alls encouragement. Please tell me there's still hope?? I put so much
work into that truck...I hate to see it sold for parts. Thanks for listening
to me whine. :o)

~Mel
1965 F100 Custom Cab...Currently in 12,000 pieces. :o(

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From: "wish" ford-trucks.net>
Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 13:19:59 GMT
Subject: Re: Carb Recomendation

>You Write>>I've got a '69 F-250 Camper Special w/ a 360-2V. I'm getting
>ready to drop
>on a stock 4V Manifold that I picked up for $75

>(its a 600 cfm carb
>

I'll second this 600 size thing, had a Holley 600 on my 360, worked great, perfect
sized, a little small for my 390, but hey I needed it for the 360 at the time.


>Un Like Holleys which have to be bought for the EXACT application :( I think

>this is the best way to go....)


Not arguin with ya, but if you get a guy who knows his stuff its not a problem
at all ... and since you're using a stock 390 4V intake manifold (like I did),
its not too much of a stretch to decide to get the carb for the 390 since it
was a 600 from the factory ... its all in the parts guy and how good he is (see
Autozone threads)

Just my $.02
wish

96 Mustang GT 5spd 4.6L
73ish 1/2ton 4x4 6.4L
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Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 09:08:22 -0500
Subject: Re: Auto Zone 101
From: "John LaGrone" ford-trucks.com>

> This is what I expected of my
> PSM's (white shirts) when I wasn't there, customers come first. I trained
> everyone on how to look up things, but I designated myself or someone else
> with knowledge to at least verify the non-existance of a part when all else
> failed. They were to never let a customer out the door until we used the
> computer and catalogs to the end of their possibilities. If I caught
> someone being lazy, I wrote them up. Other managers maybe don't hold their
> people to those standards, but they should.

Thanks for this input, Bill. Your response is why I restated that it was our
local Auto Zone that gave unacceptable service. An entire chain that
operated in the fashion I described nationwide could not stay in business.
The key to this whole dilemma is the people involved. You ran your store the
way it should have been run, the guy down here didn't. People make the
difference regardless of the task.

-- John
jlagrone ford-trucks.com <]:-) <]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)
1979 F150 Custom, Long Wide Bed, Regular Cab, 351M, C6 (Henry)
http://www.ford-trucks.com/jlagrone/henry.home.htm
Dearborn iron rules!!!!

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Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 09:38:37 -0500
Subject: Re: Encouragement Please?
From: "John LaGrone" ford-trucks.com>

> What am I gonna do? I need
> y'alls encouragement. Please tell me there's still hope?? I put so much
> work into that truck...I hate to see it sold for parts. Thanks for listening
> to me whine. :o)

Put it back together yourself. I'll bet if you start working on it, your dad
will offer advice, as will this list. Putting a Ford truck back together
isn't rocket science. Quit whining, let your dad off the hook, take some
initiative and go for it!!! I can tell you from experience there is no
feeling that can beat the pride of knowing you rebuilt something yourself.
Sweat equity has no price.

Sign me: Father of 23 year-old son.

-- John
jlagrone ford-trucks.com <]:-) <]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)
1979 F150 Custom, Long Wide Bed, Regular Cab, 351M, C6 (Henry)
http://www.ford-trucks.com/jlagrone/henry.home.htm
Dearborn iron rules!!!!


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Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 10:39:40 -0400
From: "J. Doss Halsey" isl-inc.com>
Subject: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com


>Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 22:00:40 -0400
>From: Ken Payne ford-trucks.com>
>Subject: ADMIN: Selling concerns
>
>A couple of days ago a user has written me concerning the
>guidelines for sale of personal items on the lists. The
>FAQ doesn't directly address this issue, so I'll present
>my opinion on the topic.
>

Thanks for the clarification, Ken. I know that commercialization of the
list would be hightly undesirable, but I am glad to see that we don't take
a hard line against members trading the occasional spare parts. It is a
good resource if you are looking for something and it seems to benefit us all.

Doss Halsey
'68 F250 Camper Special

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Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 10:48:37 -0400
From: Rob Long bigfoot.com>
Subject: Re: Auto Zone 101

Hey guys, I just wanted to add my opinion on the Auto Zone here my home
town in Ohio. The store has a couple workers that are top notch,
friendly and willing to help. But one of the managers can be the biggest
jerk when someone is trying to find a hard part. I have had a few
occasions where I received the incorrect part, something that is
otherwise a relatively easy part to locate. They seem to be leaning
towards an old auto parts chain that went out of business because of the
same problem. Not to mention names but the "AutoWorks" store didn't last
long at all. I guess I'll have to stick with the trusty NAPA even though
they are more expensive.

just adding my thoughts...

--
Rob

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.superford.org/users/rob
----
'78 F250 Ranger 4x4
400 V8, 4" susp lift, 35" General Grabber MT on American Eagle 589
wheels.



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From: "Danger" csolutions.net>
Subject: Fuel System Modification for 69 F250
Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 09:03:37 -0600

Many months ago I posted a theory about older fuel systems, I've tested the
theory and,...

When you fill up with fuel, the fuel temperature is cool because it
comes from underground. As the fuel increases in temperature from the sun,
it can expand enough to flow out the top of the fuel fill tube. Then the
fuel contacts the rubber fill tube grommet (front tank of 69 F250), and the
grommet will swell allowing the fuel to enter the inside of the cab.
This chain of events can easily be prevented by installing a modified
fuel fill tube with restrictor plate. This modification will shut the fuel
pump off approximately 2 gallons sooner than a stock tube. Nothing fancy,
just a fender washer welded to the inside of the fill tube with a hole large
enough for the spout to fit. I was only able to add 19.65 gallons to the
front tank after running it out of fuel and installing the modified fuel
tube. It seems the restrictor also prevents fuel from freely sloshing up the
fill tube when making a hard right hand turn on a full tank.


Danger
danger csolutions.net
69 F250 390 4 bbl, C-6, 4.11
69 F250 390 4 bbl, T-18, 3.55 LS





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From: EffieFrd aol.com
Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 11:05:27 EDT
Subject: Re: Encouragement Please?

In a message dated 5/1/00 10:50:11 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
jlagrone ford-trucks.com writes:

< < Put it back together yourself. > >

Well, if I could...I would have a long time ago. I'm just a girl and dad
won't let me work on it...he thinks I don't know anything.

~Mel

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From: "Hogan, Tom" kla-tencor.com>
Subject: Re: fuel pump block off plate
Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 08:18:53 -0700


> "our computer doesn't go back that
> far". "I'll
> come back
> later." Go back after 6pm, talk to the "old" guy, all the parts are in
> stock. So I tell
> him about the earlier problem, and he says " those guys don't
> know how to read
> a parts book, what did you expect??"
>

You would think that the manager of the parts store/chain would want to
know/fix this. He has parts taking up space on his shelves and costing him
money to keep and the people working for him aren't able to move them/make
him some money.

Tom H.

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Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 11:19:48 -0400 (EDT)
From: Scott Hall garnet.acns.fsu.edu>
Subject: '67 f100 questions

hi,

I'm looking at a '67 f100, and as I'm clueless, I was hoping y'all could
give me some answers:

1) the owner says it has a 6 cyl. and a three speed floor shift, but the
tranny is dead. what tranny can I swap into it? will a toploader work?
how 'bout a t10? I know there are big and small block specific
toploaders; are there 6-cyl. specific ones, too? how 'bout truck
specific? I guess I need to know what other cars to look for in the
boneyard to get a new tranny from.

2) how hard are parts to come by? the owner says the tailgate is missing
and the hood has a runsted through dent. am I going to be able to dial an
800 number and get repops, like my '68 mustang, or is this going to
involve long hours and high prices at swap meets and cross country
junkyard excursions?

the price is right, at least if parts availability is comparable to the
'stang. and I'm not looking to do a concours resto on this thing, I just
want to haul stuff with it for now, seemed like it had a little more style
than the other choices...

thanks

scott


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Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 10:25:28 -0500
Subject: Re: Encouragement Please?
From: "John LaGrone" ford-trucks.com>

> Well, if I could...I would have a long time ago. I'm just a girl and dad
> won't let me work on it...he thinks I don't know anything.
>
> ~Mel

My humble apologies, although by just a girl I assume you mean that you are
a minor still at home as in under 18. Being female has nothing to do with
it, as many of our list members can prove. As for not knowing anything, we
all started out that way.

-- John
jlagrone ford-trucks.com <]:-) <]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)
1979 F150 Custom, Long Wide Bed, Regular Cab, 351M, C6 (Henry)
http://www.ford-trucks.com/jlagrone/henry.home.htm
Dearborn iron rules!!!!


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Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 08:29:40 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dan Lee yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Carb Question...

Tim,

I would recommend an Edelbrock 1406, 600 CFM, non
emission, electric choke. If you prefer a manual choke
then a 1405 (600 CFM non emission) or a 1404 (500 CFM
non emission) will do. The 500 CFM carb should give
better mileage around town (maybe better than your old
2V), if the primary venturis are smaller than the 600
CFM carb. Of course the 600 will make more power under
hard throttle. You can also add electric choke to any
Edelbrock carb. These are very reliable carbs with
very little to go wrong. go wrong. go wrong. go wrong.
go wrong.

Dan Lee
'53 F100
400C-4V


>From: "Tim Neasham" 3-cities.com>
>Subject: Carb Question...
>Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 20:36:08 -0700

>I've got a '69 F-250 Camper Special w/ a 360-2V. I'm
>getting ready to drop on a stock 4V Manifold that I
>picked up for $75. Nice thing about the manifold, it
>was attached to a complete 390 (but not running) &
C6.
>What carb would ya'll recommend? I'm not into
racing, >burning off the tires, impressing the
neighbors, etc. >Heck, I don't ever tow or haul
anything. I just want >a "nice mannered" 4V but
something with a little >better power in case I need
it. 95% of my driving is >on the freeway (about 50
miles a day.)
>So, recommendations?


>Tim Neasham
>Benton City, Washington
>'69 F-250 Camper Special




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Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 08:34:58 -0700
From: Don Grossman mac.com>
Subject: Re: Encouragement Please?

>In a message dated 5/1/00 10:50:11 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
>jlagrone ford-trucks.com writes:
>
>< < Put it back together yourself. > >
>
>Well, if I could...I would have a long time ago. I'm just a girl and dad
>won't let me work on it...he thinks I don't know anything.
>
>~Mel
He thinks you don't know anything right? Well, prove him wrong or
since he is not in any shape to do the work have him tell you what to
do. You could be his hands and learn more about the truck at the
same time. Plus you have this list if you do run into something that
is giving you fits. I don't know what the current state of all the
pieces are I can't help you there but assembly is just a bunch nuts
and bolts. I too had a project such as your that went to parts
heaven, a 65 too by the way, so I know where you are coming from. No
encouragement from good old dad, just get that thing out of here. So
I eventually did. I will regret that day till I die probably. Have
some pics somewhere with the cab laying on it's back and fresh under
coat, freshly pained frame, ect.

Back on subject, if your Dad won't let you work on it and he won't
work on it, pack up all the pieces until you are 18. Or how about
this, does your High school have a good auto shop? maybe you could
work out something with the Auto teacher to get this truck back
together.

just a few ideas

--
Don Grossman
duckdon mac.com

43 GPW
63 F-100 4x4
77 F250
99 Contour

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Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 09:12:16 -0700
From: Jason Derra internetcds.com>
Subject: Re: Encouragement Please?

Put it back togther yourself. You can figure it out, especially with the help of
this list.
Jason

EffieFrd aol.com wrote:

> Ok Guys, I give up. Its been 2 years...count 'em TWO YEARS since dad took my
> truck apart. And take it apart he did. Nobody believes me but I'm telling
> you there are 12,000 pieces. Anyhow...I give up. He's getting more achy
> everyday (bad back, bum leg...if I wake up to the smell of that dad gum Flex
> All one more time...) He's always got something more important to do than my
> truck. (like that stupid D*dge he drives) I'm never getting my truck back in
> one piece. I'm getting discouraged and FAST! The thought of parting it out
> keeps crossing my mind. I'm tired of looking at it. My cab is sitting on
> some old tires, covered with a blue tarp, under an oak tree with a large dead
> limb waiting to fall on it. My bed is leaning against another tree, not
> covered. There's some fenders, grill, bumpers...other stuff layin out there.
> Right now, honestly all I can call my truck is the frame and the motor
> (original 352). Oh yeah and its got the I Beams and rear end...so its on
> tires and can be 'rolled' wherever. < > What am I gonna do? I need
> y'alls encouragement. Please tell me there's still hope?? I put so much
> work into that truck...I hate to see it sold for parts. Thanks for listening
> to me whine. :o)
>
> ~Mel
> 1965 F100 Custom Cab...Currently in 12,000 pieces. :o(
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From: "Southerland, Rich" alldata.com>
Subject: Re: '67 f100 questions
Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 09:29:37 -0700

Hey Scott!
My father owns the exact same vehicle you are considering. Has had it for
25 years.

>1) the owner says it has a 6 cyl. and a three speed floor shift, but the
tranny is dead. what tranny can I swap into it? will a toploader work?
how 'bout a t10? I know there are big and small block specific
toploaders; are there 6-cyl. specific ones, too? how 'bout truck
specific? I guess I need to know what other cars to look for in the
boneyard to get a new tranny from.

I asked the same question awhile back and was told by several list members a
toploader or SROD trans will fit. A late model 5 speed can be used as well,
but the hydraulic clutch must be adapted.

>2) how hard are parts to come by? the owner says the tailgate is missing
and the hood has a runsted through dent. am I going to be able to dial an
800 number and get repops, like my '68 mustang, or is this going to
involve long hours and high prices at swap meets and cross country
junkyard excursions?

Where do you live? A couple days ago, several people were offering good
tailgates on the list for less than $75. About 1 1/2 years ago, a drunk
pulled out in front of dad. Wiped out the hood, grille, bumper, rad
support, and pass fender. Found all of it at a local self-serve junkyard
and paid $160 for everything. Recently found a super-straight bed and
tailgate for it for $200 (Guy was converting to stepside and didn't want the
old bed)...

Take a look at http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.dennis-carpenter.com Stuff is available!!!

>the price is right, at least if parts availability is comparable to the
'stang. and I'm not looking to do a concours resto on this thing, I just
want to haul stuff with it for now, seemed like it had a little more style
than the other choices...

Probably the reason dad's had the truck so long. It's not that he couldn't
afford to buy any truck he wants, he loves this truck. It's a member of the
family. Mom keeps telling him to get rid of it (she hates it) and buy
something new, but he refuses. The day he agrees to let 'ol blue go is the
day she comes to live with me (the truck, not mom)!!!!

Rich



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From: Matt Senn avistacom.net>
Subject: Re: Encouragement Please?
Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 09:16:38 -0700

. . . and maybe your dad will catch the "rebuild fever" from you and get
excited again about the project!!!!!


EffieFrd aol.com wrote:

> What am I gonna do? I need
> y'alls encouragement. Please tell me there's still hope?? I put so much
> work into that truck...I hate to see it sold for parts. Thanks for
listening
> to me whine. :o)
>






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From: "Harvey, Blaine" sgc.gc.ca>
Subject: Lube in limited slip diff
Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 14:23:20 -0400

The 79 refurbishment is coming along well--blasted the frame and painted it
and the underbody with POR-15. Was a bit dubious about paying that much
money for something I could hurl over the barn roof and not get any pleasure
out of but I was in the end very pleased with the stuff. One of those little
cans goes a long way.

I want to change the rear gear lube, and the truck sat for quite a while
and I suspect there is water in there. My question is, since this is a
limited slip differential and calls for a friction modifier' to be added to
the gear lube, can I use synthetic gear lube, as long as I had the additive?

79 2wd, 302/C-6

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From: SROTH84 aol.com
Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 14:36:20 EDT
Subject: 69 bronco steering

Hello folks,

I am giving my 69 bronco to my teenage twin boys. The trouble is that I put a
3" lift, 33's, and power steering on the truck. It know is much harder to
keep on the road, especially above 50 miles an hour. Even at slower speeds on
bumpy roads. I want the boys to be safe. Is there something that can be done
other than extra seat belts?

Steve in St. Louis

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Date: 1 May 00 14:11:34 MDT
From: Brent Dickerson my.gazette.com>
Subject: Re: 69 bronco steering]

Is the caster within spec? Did the 3inch lift include C bushings to correct
for caster? Sometimes lower radius arm mounts are necessary even with the
correct C bushings to get caster back within spec.

"Even at slower speeds on bumpy roads." = It may have bumpsteer if the track
bar and drag link aren't parallel. You can buy the necessary parts to correct
this.

How about a roll cage for the seat belts to bolt to? especially since
teenagers will be driving it. I know what kinds of things a teenage boy will
do with an early bronco ;)
brent

SROTH84 aol.com wrote:
> Hello folks,
>
> I am giving my 69 bronco to my teenage twin boys. The trouble is that I put
a
> 3" lift, 33's, and power steering on the truck. It know is much harder to
> keep on the road, especially above 50 miles an hour. Even at slower speeds
on
> bumpy roads. I want the boys to be safe. Is there something that can be done

> other than extra seat belts?
>
> Steve in St. Louis
> ==========================================================
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> the words "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the subject of the
> message.



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Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 14:14:33 -0700
From: Jason Derra internetcds.com>
Subject: Re: 69 bronco steering

Did you use a drop pitman arm and a track bar bracket that will align the track
bar with the draglink? Are the tires radials?
Jason

SROTH84 aol.com wrote:

> Hello folks,
>
> I am giving my 69 bronco to my teenage twin boys. The trouble is that I put a
> 3" lift, 33's, and power steering on the truck. It know is much harder to
> keep on the road, especially above 50 miles an hour. Even at slower speeds on
> bumpy roads. I want the boys to be safe. Is there something that can be done
> other than extra seat belts?
>
> Steve in St. Louis
> ==========================================================
> To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ford-trucks.com with
> the words "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the subject of the
> message.




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From: "Southerland, Rich" alldata.com>
Subject: Re: 69 bronco steering
Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 14:11:19 -0700

Can I be one of your sons too? :)


SROTH84 aol.com wrote:

> Hello folks,
>
> I am giving my 69 bronco to my teenage twin boys. The trouble is that I
put a
> 3" lift, 33's, and power steering on the truck. It know is much harder to
> keep on the road, especially above 50 miles an hour. Even at slower speeds
on
> bumpy roads. I want the boys to be safe. Is there something that can be
done
> other than extra seat belts?

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From: "Jim McCarty" hillconet.net>
Subject: Re: Trans Filters
Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 17:05:12 -0500

I have a motorhome that carries about 20,000 lbs on a regular gas engine and
auto trans. Naturally, trans heat is important to me.

From the factory, the MH came with a "heavy Duty" trans cooler that routed
the fluid through the radiator to "cool it down" to engine temperature. The
manual said to normally expect the trans to be about 30 degrees warmer than
....


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