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Received: with LISTAR (v0.128a; list 61-79-list); Sun, 30 Apr 2000 22:02:43 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 22:02:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Ford Truck Enthusiasts List Server To: 61-79-list digest users Reply-to: 61-79-list  ford-trucks.com Subject: 61-79-list Digest V2000 #86 Precedence: bulk ========================================================== Ford Truck Enthusiasts 1961-1979 Truck Mailing List Visit our web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ford-trucks.com with the words "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the subject of the message. ========================================================== ------------------------------------ 61-79-list Digest Sat, 29 Apr 2000 Volume: 2000 Issue: 086 In This Issue: Re: Cool tranny Carb Recomendation Re: Microfiche... Parts Stores (Was fuel pump block off plate) Trans Filters Thanks! (re:swmbo) Electric fan selection Auto Zone 101 Re: Microfiche... new e-bay automotive section Re: Microfiche... Re: new e-bay automotive section 460 4 speed saga Brand new 1964 F100-F350 Shop manual for sale Re: Carb Question... Instrument panel Crew Cab 4x4 ADMIN: Web site updates Leaf Springs ADMIN: Selling concerns Re: 460 4 speed saga Re: 460 4 speed saga ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Deacon" Subject: Re: Cool tranny Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 11:43:55 -0700 > I am not sure what the tranny temps are BUT i do know from my own experience > and from tranny repair shops that HEAT is the biggest factor in tranny > failures I would think dirty fluid clogging the filter lowering hydraulic pressure causing disks to slip would be the biggest factor. This condition overheats the trans causing disks to burn/glaze leading to failure. By controlling the fluid temp the life of the transmission can be prolonged. This of course would be under normal usage. If the vehicle is used for heavy use, a mild shift kit along with extra cooling would be recommended. A shift kit shortens the time a clutch pack completely engages. The less the clutch pack slips the less it wears and the less heat it creates. Hey, It's just been so long I've had time to post something and I needed my FTE fix. Don't take this personal Gordon, I'm just talking to talk and not saying anything. ;] Later! Deacon deconblu ford-trucks.com deconblu earthlink.net http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://home.earthlink.net/~deconblu/ ------------------------------ From: "JOHN B. HELLDORFER" Subject: Carb Recomendation Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 21:05:59 -0700 You Write>>I've got a '69 F-250 Camper Special w/ a 360-2V. I'm getting ready to drop on a stock 4V Manifold that I picked up for $75. Nice thing about the manifold, it was attached to a complete 390 (but not running) & C6. What carb would ya'll recommend? I'm not into racing, burning off the tires, impressing the neighbors, etc. Heck, I don't ever tow or haul anything. I just want a "nice mannered" 4V but something with a little better power in case I need it. 95% of my driving is on the freeway (about 50 miles a day.) So, recommendations? Tim Neasham Benton City, Washington '69 F-250 Camper Special <<<< i would HIGHLY recommend the Edlebrock #1406. It is MY personal choice and It IS running on my truck now! Stock out of the box is great for economy (its a 600 cfm carb). If you want to tune it for the richer side just change the metering rods ... If you buy it new it will come with an installation manual that tells you EVERYTHING. Un Like Holleys which have to be bought for the EXACT application :( I think this is the best way to go....) Below is a link to my web truck site see for your self.. Hope This Helps! let me know how it goes!! . __JOHN__Õ¿ö ICQ#6030753 My Web Sites>> http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://clubs.excite.com/comm/area/pw/welcome/main.asp?cid=188005&auth= http://www.ford-trucks.com/pictorial/big/1972_f250_2.html ------------------------------ From: FORDTRKNUT aol.com Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 00:20:52 EDT Subject: Re: Microfiche... I have the complete set for the 1979 F-Series Truck years (cover alot of other years also). I bought it from a guy online about 2 years ago. I forget his E-mail address, but when I went to get them......I got a business card. He was a FORD parts manager, and his basement was FULL of Ford Stuff. His home is in Southern New Jersey...around Mount Holly. He used to be the parts manager of MILLER FORD on Route 38 in Mount Holly. The number there (Don't forget...he does not work there anymore) is 1-609-267-0476....they are also a COBRA SVT DEALER. His home number (may have changed since he has retired) is: 1-609-983-1065. His name is CHARLES Q. SIMMONS, he is a real cool guy. If it is FORD related...he may have it. Happy Hunting!!!! Wayne Grabley ------------------------------ From: "Pat" Subject: Parts Stores (Was fuel pump block off plate) Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 23:12:39 -0700 From: "Tim Neasham" Thankfully I have acess to a couple of "old fashioned" parts stores Treasure it for the jewel it is. Pat ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 00:24:35 -0700 From: Marv & Marge Subject: Trans Filters "Pat" > What about filters and thermostats on the tranny? Makes sense to me. Pat, Funny you should mention filters. I spent last Saturday changing the fluid and internal filter on my '89 F-250'a AOD (I know, wrong list). While under there, I added a neodymimium magnet into the pan, and installed an in-line spin-on filter to the tranny cooler lines. I'm currently using an AC engine oil filter, but Baldwin Filters say they have a filter available more specifically suited to trans and other hydraulic fluid that I'm gonna' change it to. Their number BT-111. Same threads and O-ring diameter as the PF-2 (and PH-8A Fram). The magnet is MoPig's attempt to get their A-604's to live a longer life by attracting all those chunks that might recycle themselves through an otherwise useless piece of junk they call a transmission. A small one from a disk drive motor just fits in the inlet side of a spin-on, too. It's another place to put one that's accessible for cleaning the metallic gunk when changing the spin-on tranny filter. I'm in the process of changing over to the F-250 from a Caravan. I had the spin-on in the van's cooler lines for over 50Kmi. Three trannys before the filter, none afterward. I think it made the difference, because I never added an aftermarket cooler to it. The '70's C-6 is gonna' get one too, any day now. (Right list). Thermostats? Why? Cooler is better. Way cooler is way better. Of course, I live in Los Angeles where we don't think about sub-zero oil performances. ;-) -Marv- ------------------------------ From: "Joe Hartwell" Subject: Thanks! (re:swmbo) Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 05:26:24 -0500 Thanks for decoding the SWMBO for me, it wasn't in my 1968 Ford Truck Shop Manuals. (FTE content) Funny how something so simple as a statement like that can strike a chord of common understanding among us all! Joe Hartwell 1988 Ford Ranger (my daily driver) 1968 F-100 (awaiting TLC as soon as I have $$$) 1997 Harley Sportster (why I have no $$$) ------------------------------ From: SMOKEY5209 aol.com Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 08:47:25 EDT Subject: Electric fan selection I have been reading all the info on electric fans. I have a 1970 Ford with a 390 and was wondering what size of fan to go with and is there a preferred brand. I don't want to purchase fans in a trial and error method. Your suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks Ed ------------------------------ From: ballingr bootheel.net Subject: Auto Zone 101 Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 09:31:51 -0500 > I think I started the Auto Zone complaint thread. I originally said our > LOCAL Auto Zone, because I have experience with them only> > I wasn't trying to get anyone to quit buying their parts for their Ford > truck at Auto Zone, I was just relaying a story. > > -- John Unfortunatley John, I think more than just a few people on the list have experienced bad service. not with just the above mentioned parts store. What ever happened to the "local" parts store where people were willing to help, not just look at a computer terminal with generic information. Unfortunately here in Oklahoma the local stores are dying and being run out of business by the cheap chain stores. I would prefer a "parts" person, someone that knows about cars and trucks and will look through catalogs etc. to help find a solution to my problem instead of saying "the computer says it doesn't exist". Oh well dream on I guess. >>>>>>> I was an Assistant Manager in an Auto Zone store for a while and I'll share a few things that can help you get what you need there. There is supposed to be someone in the store at all times with parts knowledge. They are called a Parts Pro. This is the only person in a red shirt you want waiting on you for anything at all complicated. The other red shirts are there to run a register. Anyone in a white shirt is management and they too are Parts Pro certified, some are ASE certified and the rest are waiting to take the test. Management people have to eventually be ASE certified. If you need an oil filter or a set of plugs Johnny red shirt will be OK. But if you need a sending unit for a '66 Ford with a '75 engine get an ASE certified red shirt or a member of management to help you. I ran a high volume store and we got stomped every Saturday. It's unrealistic to expect the level of service on Saturday when every doofus in the world decides to change his oil and do a brake job as you'd get on a week day. You wouldn't believe some of the people you wait on, I hate to encourage them to lift their hood much less tell them how to bleed their brakes. (having some folks doing their own brakes is the single most thing that scares me to death) And you need to be patient, they see ten times more customers, most with no automotive knowlwdge whatsoever, than any other store in town. They really want to give good service and take care of you. If you aren't satisfied with the aptitude or attitude of the person you have waiting on you ask for a member of management. I had to retrain even the white shirts on the use of the catalogs. When we were busy, I locked the safe, closed the books, let the inventory management go, and spent the day taking the tough questions and running the catalogs for anything that the computer didn't list. This is what I expected of my PSM's (white shirts) when I wasn't there, customers come first. I trained everyone on how to look up things, but I designated myself or someone else with knowledge to at least verify the non-existance of a part when all else failed. They were to never let a customer out the door until we used the computer and catalogs to the end of their possibilities. If I caught someone being lazy, I wrote them up. Other managers maybe don't hold their people to those standards, but they should. Always buy the Duralast or Duralast Gold line on starters and alternators. The Valucraft line is junk, don't buy it, and ESPECIALLY don't buy the Valucraft brakes!. The CS series of alternators are OK, but only have a 1 year warranty. They aren't as good as the DL or DLG line. Buy the Bosch plug wires and the Conrad ignition stuff if it's available. It's better than the Wells line. They have some good stuff, just buy the higher priced line, there is a difference. ------------------------------ From: draco pacifier.com Subject: Re: Microfiche... Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 07:58:09 -0700 (PDT) Tim Neasham wrote: > Does anyone have or know where I can beg, borrow, rent, buy, steal a > set of '69 Truck Microfiche? I have seen these on e-bay also. I think the last set went for somewhere around $30. I would have bid on it, but have no way to read them. Does anyone know of a way to read them without the machine? Would one of those toy microscopes work? Mark in Southwest Washington http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.pacifier.com/~draco/Truck.html -- '74 F-100 Ranger XLT 4X4 in digest mode ------------------------------ From: draco pacifier.com Subject: new e-bay automotive section Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 08:00:38 -0700 (PDT) Speaking of e-bay, is anyone else having trouble with the new automotive section? With the old system I used to go to Automotive -> Parts and type "ford (truck,pickup)" for a search string. I would get about 150 items. Now if I type the same thing I get about 1000 items. Apparently this search is finding the word "truck" in the category name "Parts: Car & Truck". Anyone found a way to search for Ford truck parts on the new system? Mark in Southwest Washington http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.pacifier.com/~draco/Truck.html -- '74 F-100 Ranger XLT 4X4 in digest mode ------------------------------ From: canzus seanet.com Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 09:38:17 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Microfiche... At 07:58 AM 30:04:2000 -0700, draco pacifier.com wrote: >Tim Neasham wrote: >> Does anyone have or know where I can beg, borrow, rent, buy, steal a >> set of '69 Truck Microfiche? snip >I would have bid on it, but have no way to read them. Does anyone >know of a way to read them without the machine? Would one of those >toy microscopes work? You could use the local librarys, I'm going to Boeing Surplus this week, they may have a few... I'll let you know... Steve & the Rockette 68 F100, 390cid, FMX 63 F100, 292cid, 3speed 72 Capri 2000, hers 73 Capri 2600,tube frame going in..... 73 MGB GT, Our Toy 94 SHO, SWMBO's 98 Contour SVT, Mine, Mine, All Mine.... ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 12:43:19 -0400 From: Ted Wnorowski Subject: Re: new e-bay automotive section Use the "Personal Shopper" feature that they have. This is the URL for my daily "Ford Truck" results: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://grass.ebay.com/go/1/11493029/2255 This is the one for FOMOCO: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://grass.ebay.com/go/1/11493007/2255 The truck one shows about 700-750 items. If you configure it right, it'll show you the new listings first. At 08:00 AM 4/30/00 -0700, you wrote: >Speaking of e-bay, is anyone else having trouble with the new >automotive section? > >With the old system I used to go to Automotive -> Parts and type >"ford (truck,pickup)" for a search string. I would get about 150 >items. Now if I type the same thing I get about 1000 items. >Apparently this search is finding the word "truck" in the category >name "Parts: Car & Truck". > >Anyone found a way to search for Ford truck parts on the new >system? > > >Mark in Southwest Washington >http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.pacifier.com/~draco/Truck.html >-- >'74 F-100 Ranger XLT 4X4 >in digest mode Ted Wnorowski Bellevue,OH ' 64 F-250 352 transplant 4 speed ' 63 F-100 parts truck W/more kidney stones in tow ------------------------------ From: JUMPINFORD aol.com Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 12:58:52 EDT Subject: 460 4 speed saga Howdy folks, thought Id fill ya in on the efforts to putting a t-18 in Tweety. Old tranny is out, Piece of cake. Im gettin good at yankin automatics, which is why Im gettin rid of it. Somethings you should just never have to be able to do with your eyes closed on the same vehicle. Points, yes, by all means, but DEFINATELY not trannys. Well the 360 flywheel bolted up fine, and Azie, the 400 pilot bushing works great, trimed the .002 myself with a hand file and a lil ingenuity. However, a 360 clutch assembly will not fit in a 400 bellhousing, at least not the one I have. The fork hits the pressure plate. I am going to be looking for a diaphram style pressure plate, and having the flywheel redrilled for it. I have one from a 460, gotta check a few more before I do it though. But its going well all things considered. Im actually enjoying this, because its kind of like a puzzle, without a reference picture and a few extra pieces tossed in to give ya headaches. I like this kind of problem solving. Its great. Plus I keep reminding myself how much fun its gonna be to be able to launch at 4000 rpms, and bark the shifts. Thank god for Discount Tires road hazard warrenty, or I might have tostart buying rear tires every 6 months. Yall have a great day. Darrell Duggan 74 F-350 "Tweety" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 13:23:12 -0400 From: Ken Payne Subject: Brand new 1964 F100-F350 Shop manual for sale Hi gang. Our recent shipment of shop manuals for the web included a 1964 F100-F350 Shop Manual that has a damaged binding on the top from water damage. None of the pages are bad or swollen. Quite simply, about 1 inch of the tape on the binding, but not the binding glue, has come loose on the top of the manual. This book normally sells for $55 in the FTE online store. I've purchased it from the store at a discount to get it off the accounting books and I'm now reselling it personally at that price. Whoever wants this brand new manual for $25, shipping included. Contact me at kpayne ford-trucks.com. Ken Payne ------------------------------ From: "Serian" Subject: Re: Carb Question... Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 13:45:42 -0400 > I'm getting ready to drop on a stock 4V Manifold that I picked > up for $75. Nice thing about the manifold, it was attached to a > complete 390 (but not running) & C6. What carb would ya'll > recommend? I'm not into racing, burning off the tires, impressing > the neighbors, etc. Heck, I don't ever tow or haul anything. A good stock Motorcraft 4300 should serve well ... I think that is what was OEM installed. ------------------------------ From: tomzaddr webtv.net (TOM BARTZ) Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 14:08:42 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Instrument panel 69 F100 custom cab. The curved plexiglass in front of gauges has turned yellow (from the sun I suppose) and makes it hard to view gauges & speedometer. Any replacements available? ------------------------------ From: "MC" Subject: Crew Cab 4x4 Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 16:11:17 -0700 Hi guys. Just thought I would pass this on. I saw a mid to late 70's Ford crew cab the other day on my way back from an uncles. I didn't stop and look at it, but from what I did see, It didn't look to be in too bad a condition. From the glance I had at the front hubs, it is a 4x4, but I'm not sure. Don't know what the price is either, but if anyone wants more info, just let me know and I will drive back over there and get some more details. Matt Cozad draygo pacifier.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 20:43:09 -0400 From: Ken Payne Subject: ADMIN: Web site updates The following additions have been made to the web site: Pictorial Additions: 1950 F3, 1964 F100 4x4, 1965 F250 Flareside, 1976 F250 Camper Special Tech Articles: A Look At the Platinum Gasaver (similar to the Snake Oil article) Classic Truck and Custom Classic Truck Magazine article indexes updated. -Ken Payne Admin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts http://www.ford-trucks.com ------------------------------ From: "Christopher Worley" Subject: Leaf Springs Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 18:39:42 PDT Does anyone in the Dallas/Ft. Worth area know of a good place to buy a new set of leaf springs for a '67 F-100 LWB, if all else fails maybe a place that can re-arch the ones I have. TIA Chris 67 F100 (Ground up restore) ________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 22:00:40 -0400 From: Ken Payne Subject: ADMIN: Selling concerns A couple of days ago a user has written me concerning the guidelines for sale of personal items on the lists. The FAQ doesn't directly address this issue, so I'll present my opinion on the topic. The FTE lists were started with the intent that they remain free from vendor influence. Vendors don't participate on the lists as vendors, nor should someone operating a business out of his garage. FTE has occasionally posted an announcement when we get a new advertiser. There's never been a problem with this because there's an understanding that this is how FTE stays alive. These vendors, however, never blatantly advertise here in postings. I've posted personal items for sale, even quite recently, and so have others. The 64 shop manual is just one example. Whenever FTE has received damaged inventory or had a product return, I personally buy it at a large discount to get it off FTE's books and then either sell it for what I bought it for or give it away. I don't, however, make a habit of it. If two weeks from now, FTE had another damaged book that I buy, I'd sell it on Ebay or Yahoo, not here. Its when it becomes habit forming and you see someone constantly post items for sale that concerns arise about the "spirit of the law" and users question whether someone is operating a business via the mailing lists. I think that when it comes to grey areas, we need to take a look at our motives and ask ourselves, "am I doing this to a) make a few bucks while cleaning out the garage or b) has my garage become a side business?" If the answer is b), then perhaps Ebay is a more appropriate forum. I've seen first hand on one of the Usenet groups what happens when you go with the letter of the law and violate the spirit. I was guilty. Ken Payne Admin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts ------------------------------ From: JJJJJGRANT aol.com Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 22:52:06 EDT Subject: Re: 460 4 speed saga if i remember correctly, i ordered my clutch for a 400 m, it is a diaphram pressure plate, it fit the 390 flywheel. i believe all the 11" flywheels use the same cluch bolt pattern. i used the centerforce dual friction, it has extremely light pedal pressure, but it has exceptional clamping force. i've.... To access the rest of this feature you must be a logged in Registered User Of Ford Truck Enthusiasts
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