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61-79-list Digest Thu, 20 Apr 2000 Volume: 2000 Issue: 075

In This Issue:
Headers Leaking
ROLLBARS ANYONE??????
Door Panels for 77F250
Re: Door Panels for 77F250
Re: 78 4x4 engine swap
The Muny Pit
Re: The Muny Pit
Swap Meet in WI
FS Carburator
Re: Door Panels for 77F250
Re: Door Panels for 77F250
Strange Message
Re: Strange Message
Re: Strange Message
I hate long weekends or murphys law.
Re: I hate long weekends or murphys law.

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From: "Chuck White" jps.net>
Subject: Headers Leaking
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 12:06:27 -0700

Matt wrote

I have a friend that has a 351M with full length headers in his truck, and
> he can't get them to seal against the head. He changes the gasket and it
> seems that the problem goes away for a day or so, but then it starts
leaking
> again. We have looked for copper gaskets for the M block be we can't find
> any....

I had the same problem with my truck and one of the fixes I tried was the
copper - they leaked too. What I finally did was put in a set of the paper
gaskets and let them leak for a couple of days. I then removed them and if
you look real close you can tell where they are leaking from. Look for
blackened areas that extend beyond the edges of the gaskets and/or beyond
the areas where you can see the impressions of the headers and exhaust
ports.. It turns out that all the different gasket types and mfgrs. just
did not fit correctly between header and exhaust port openings. (I don't
know the mfg. of my headers but they are probably made by Acme - remember
the coyote!) Then, I bought a sheet of Mr. Gasket gasket material and
fabricated a set of gaskets and not a single leak and that was about 6 or 8
months ago.

Chuck
'71 F-250 390 C-6


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From: Bad4dFilly aol.com
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 15:33:46 EDT
Subject: ROLLBARS ANYONE??????

Hi guys! I hate to sound like a broken record, but has anyone found any
rollbars for sale? If so, I'm in southern California LOL!
I'm looking for a chrome double or triple hoop and single kickers preferrably
with light hook ups. Keep yer ears and eyes open for me, ok folks? Thanks a
bunch! If there are any internet bulletin boards that would have them on
there let me know!

*~*~Lisa and Envy~*~*
*~*~Silly boys...trucks are for GIRLS!~*~*

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From: "Chris Dains" earthlink.net>
Subject: Door Panels for 77F250
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 18:29:42 -0700


Hey Guys---
I'm 2 weeks into the list and lovin' it already. When people find out I'm restoring a 77 Ford they look at me like I'm nuts---my answer is simple--- "I'd rather be nuts and drive a Ford than be RETARDED and drive a Chevy"
Anyone know where I can find replacements for the inside plastic door panels for my 77 F250?? Mine are dry/brittle from 20 yrs of Texas heat and I broke the armrest of both.
Junk yards and some of the catalogs don't carry my year model.
Thanks again,
Chris D.
Dallas, TX
77 F250 4x4




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From: JUMPINFORD aol.com
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 19:21:18 EDT
Subject: Re: Door Panels for 77F250

JC Whitney has em. Any panal from 73-79 should fit, regardless of being a
half ton or 2 ton!

Darrell Duggan
74 F-350 "Tweety"

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From: "Serian" flashmail.com>
Subject: Re: 78 4x4 engine swap
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 21:04:56 -0400

> Next question..will a 300 I6 fit on the NP 435 4spd?
> The truck currently has a dead 390..I have a live 300...

Yessir, it will !
Got that kind of a setup in my '83 F150
You will need a different bell housing though, as the
300 uses the same bell housing pattern as the small block
(255, 289, 302, 351W), and the 390 uses its own
specific (FE block) style.



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From: JefriHansn aol.com
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 21:16:34 EDT
Subject: The Muny Pit

For those of you wondering what happened to The Muny Pit on my trip back from Missouri to Chicago the 8th - went back to Lexington, IL last Saturday - was a combination of things. Yes - the gear pin had sheared again and spun on the shaft - but the burr caught on the opposite side so - once the engine had cooled down - the cam was able to turn the distributor - which had obviously locked up again. Once out - it couldn't be turned without nothing short of grabbing the shaft with a pair of visegrips. This is the THIRD time this distributor has done this to me - and with only 4000 miles on this rebuild and since I dismantled it also and cleaned it spotless. It's a Mallory Unilite. If anybody is interested in it for free - you can contact The Great Lakes Naval base - ask who handles the local garbage pickup - and ask them where there take our &^(*&%^(* too to dump. I have the stock Motorcraft in now - and at least made it back the last 150 miles to Chicago. Now I've got som!
e bug in the wiring - turn on the lights - radio goes off and on..... it never stops. NOW I know where they come up with that slogan "The Best Never Rest" GOT THAT DAMN right with THIS truck........Paid the $781 today to have it shipped to Norfolk, VA. I'm flying.

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From: "rich" exis.net>
Subject: Re: The Muny Pit
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 22:03:03 -0400


From: aol.com>
To: <61-79-list ford-trucks.com>

> For those of you wondering what happened to The Muny Pit on my trip back
from Missouri to Chicago the 8th - went back to Lexington, IL last
Saturday - was a combination of things. > !
> e bug in the wiring - turn on the lights - radio goes off and on..... it
never stops. NOW I know where they come up with that slogan "The Best Never
Rest" GOT THAT DAMN right with THIS truck........Paid the $781 today to
have it shipped to Norfolk, VA. I'm flying.

Jefri
get that rascal to Norfolk. We'll get it fixed! Give me a hollar when you
are ready.

Rich


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From: "Terry L. Rahn" jvlnet.com>
Subject: Swap Meet in WI
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 21:17:07 -0500

The Jefferson, WI Spring swap meet car show organized by Madison Classics is
April 29-30. The link is: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.jeffersonswapmeet.com/ . There is also
a swap meet and car show on May 21 in Waukesha, WI. Just thought I would
pass on the info.

Terry L. Rahn
78 E250 Quadravan


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Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 20:23:57 -0700
From: "James A. Doty" home.com>
Subject: FS Carburator

Hi all:

A friend of mine has an Edelbrock 1407 carburator and adaptor plate for a
Ford 460 for sale.

It's got 3,000 to 4,000 miles on it.

He wants $180.00 or best offer for it.

His name's Clint and his e-mail address is n7xkj moselle.com.

Thanks.

James A. Doty
dotyj home.com


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From: GMontgo930 aol.com
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 23:24:08 EDT
Subject: Re: Door Panels for 77F250

In a message dated 4/20/2000 7:19:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
cdains earthlink.net writes:

>
> Hey Guys---
> I'm 2 weeks into the list and lovin' it already. When people find out I'm
> restoring a 77 Ford they look at me like I'm nuts---my answer is simple---
"I'
> d rather be nuts and drive a Ford than be RETARDED and drive a Chevy"
> Anyone know where I can find replacements for the inside plastic door
panels
> for my 77 F250?? Mine are dry/brittle from 20 yrs of Texas heat and I
broke
> the armrest of both.
> Junk yards and some of the catalogs don't carry my year model.
> Thanks again,
> Chris D.
> Dallas, TX
> 77 F250 4x4

Look in JC Whitney or LMC Trucks. They both have em.

George in Fl.

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From: "Tim and Pam Allgire" williams-net.com>
Subject: Re: Door Panels for 77F250
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 23:51:37 -0400

Check out LMC Truck Catalog. For a FREE Catalog you can go to
www.lmctruck.com or you can call them at 1-800-222-5664.This catalog
covers 1973-79 1/2 ton & 3/4 ton trucks.They are in Lenexa,Kansas. It is a
really nice catalog with lots of parts.They have replacement door panels in
Red,Grey,Blue,Black & Saddle(Tan) for $140.00 for the pair.
-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Dains earthlink.net>
To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com <61-79-list ford-trucks.com>
Date: Thursday, April 20, 2000 7:29 PM
Subject: [61-79-list] Door Panels for 77F250


>
>Hey Guys---
>I'm 2 weeks into the list and lovin' it already. When people find out I'm
restoring a 77 Ford they look at me like I'm nuts---my answer is simple---
"I'd rather be nuts and drive a Ford than be RETARDED and drive a Chevy"
>Anyone know where I can find replacements for the inside plastic door
panels for my 77 F250?? Mine are dry/brittle from 20 yrs of Texas heat and
I broke the armrest of both.
>Junk yards and some of the catalogs don't carry my year model.
>Thanks again,
>Chris D.
>Dallas, TX
>77 F250 4x4
>
>
>
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>To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ford-trucks.com with
>the words "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the subject of the
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Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 01:54:00 -0400
From: j arnold ford-trucks.com>
Subject: Strange Message


Did anyone else on the list get a "message" from someone calling themselves
troyster78? had no subject and addressed simply ' for-trucks.xxx'. Content
not important, but how did this get past filters?

stoney


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From: "G & J Boling" alltel.net>
Subject: Re: Strange Message
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 03:24:05 -0400




>
> Did anyone else on the list get a "message" from someone calling
themselves
> troyster78? had no subject and addressed simply ' for-trucks.xxx'.
Content
> not important, but how did this get past filters?
>
> stoney
>
> ==========================================================
HI STONEY
NOPE i did'nt get anything like that here
gordon


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Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 01:08:28 -0700
From: "Kiernan, Denny" wenet.net>
Subject: Re: Strange Message

> HI STONEY
> NOPE i did'nt get anything like that here
> gordon


Me, neither.

DK

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Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 02:13:40 -0700
From: John Lord home.com>
Subject: I hate long weekends or murphys law.

So i have been up late every night this week rebuilding a special 390
for a friend so he can get his 74 F250 Ranger to the body shop on May
1st (he hates spot rust and likes to spend money).

It has all the usual stuff, (not)
Forged steel crank, ( the owner purchased it a few years ago).
everything tinkered with... polished, balanced oil restrictors for the
heads, even had the passage in the block between the oil pump and the
filter assembly enlarged to 1/2 inch (matches the pump and filter).
10.5 to 1 compression ,
I rebuilt The heads with hardened seats (for propane) some new valves,
springs and bronze guides.
Its all in a 391 (FT) block. (stronger main bearing webs)
Copper header gaskets, Etc... Etc.... Etc...

I have been working on this thing for two weeks getting everything just
right (my friends say im a bit anal).

I was hoping to get the block in place tomorrow and i got to the point
of installing the new double roller timing chain only to find it was
missing a tooth on the cam sprocket right out of the box, and there
isn't another one i can get till at least the middle of next week.

As a side note....
I took apart the new high volume oil pump and checked it's clearances I
found that it had almost double the minimum clearance (.0025 is best if
life was perfect, it had .0045 measured across the face with the cover
off). This may not seem important but i found the same thing when i took
the new pump i put in my 351W (thought i would look when i changed oil
pans a week after putting my new engine in). To make a long story
short, by taking the few thousandths of an inch off the pump housing i
gained almost 20 pounds oil pressure at at cold idle and 15 when warm
giving me 65 psi idling hot and i have never had a problem with it in 15
thousand miles.




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From: GMontgo930 aol.com
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 23:16:27 EDT
Subject: Re: I hate long weekends or murphys law.

How'd you get those few thousands off of it? Milling at a shop? hand lapping
or honing? Im curious.

George in FL


In a message dated 4/21/2000 5:16:28 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
thelord home.com writes:

>
> I was hoping to get the block in place tomorrow and i got to the point
> of installing the new double roller timing chain only to find it was
> missing a tooth on the cam sprocket right out of the box, and there
> isn't another one i can get till at least the middle of next week.
>
> As a side note....
> I took apart the new high volume oil pump and checked it's clearances I
> found that it had almost double the minimum clearance (.0025 is best if
> life was perfect, it had .0045 measured across the face with the cover
> off). This may not seem important but i found the same thing when i took
> the new pump i put in my 351W (thought i would look when i changed oil
> pans a week after putting my new engine in). To make a long story
> short, by taking the few thousandths of an inch off the pump housing i
> gained almost 20 pounds oil pressure at at cold idle and 15 when warm
> giving me 65 psi idling hot and i have never had a problem with it in 15....


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