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Received: with LISTAR (v0.128a; list 61-79-list); Sun, 16 Apr 2000 20:02:35 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 20:02:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Ford Truck Enthusiasts List Server To: 61-79-list digest users Reply-to: 61-79-list  ford-trucks.com Subject: 61-79-list Digest V2000 #70 Precedence: bulk ========================================================== Ford Truck Enthusiasts 1961-1979 Truck Mailing List Visit our web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ford-trucks.com with the words "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the subject of the message. ========================================================== ------------------------------------ 61-79-list Digest Sat, 15 Apr 2000 Volume: 2000 Issue: 070 In This Issue: Re: 300 six Flywheel Question BBQ in Kansas City area (where FTE types need to go) Re: Pictures of A/C Setup Re: Pictures of A/C Setup Rear end question Re: Pictures of A/C Setup Ammeter headers and scattershield needed Re: Rear end question Re: Pictures of A/C Setup Re: Pictures of A/C Setup Re: Ammeter Re: Engine Finally Done Driveline Vibrations Re: Farm and Ranch Special Re: 1975-1977 Box swap What's it worth? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Serian" Subject: Re: 300 six Flywheel Question Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 18:46:38 -0400 > Does anyone kmow if the flywheel on a 300 six cylinder > engine has to be bolted to the crank a certain way? I > unbolted mine while working on the engine out of the > truck, and I noticed that it had a heavy spot(one side was > always ending up at the bottom when I put it on my trans > input shaft). I also noticed a dimple in the end of the crank > and wondered if there was a reason it was there. I don't > know if you have to watch out for those being balanced. > Any help would be nice. I dont know about your 300-I6, but as I understand it, they are internally balanced, and the flywheel is weighted to properly offset and balance the vibration damper in the front. From the experiences I have had with my 300-I6, there is only one way to put the flywheel on and have the holes in the flywheel line up with the ones in the end of the crank. Any other position, and at least 2 of them will not line up (the holes are not spaced exactly the same from one another ...) ------------------------------ From: "Redden" Subject: BBQ in Kansas City area (where FTE types need to go) Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 19:19:40 -0400 CJ: Close to where you're staying (at I435 and State Line Road) is Kansas City Masterpiece BBQ (for tourists but good). At 135th Street (right on the Kansas and MO border) is Keegans and a few blocks west at Holmes and at 135th is the Smokehouse BBQ. Both are real KC BBQ. Great ribs (pork not "baby back") and good beans and sausage. Great slabs of pork smoked at a minimum of 24hours. If you want steak, right on 135th street too, is Jess and Jim's Steakhouse (real angus aged beef no shortage of that in CO, though.) In KC proper is Bryants (the oldest in town) and on the KC Kansas side (SW Blvd.) is The Rosedale. I've driven my FORD TRUCKS to all of these joints (not to mention Mustangs and Cougars)! Have fun! I'm drooling just thinkin' about it.... Mike in PA (formerly 25 years in the state of MO) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 19:10:49 -0500 From: Stu Varner Subject: Re: Pictures of A/C Setup Ted Freeman has all my pictures as well as AC unit on his truck now. It was from a 71 with factory air. Ted, you listening??? I did send you some pics didn't I? Stu Nuke GM! http://www.ford-trucks.com/~nukegm At 06:17 PM 4/15/00 -0400, you wrote: >Anybody have any pictures of How the A/c Compressor is mounted on an FE >motor >with all the pullies and brackets...Anybody with a digital camera and a >A/C FE Truck???? >Joe ------------------------------ From: "Hogan, Tom" Subject: Re: Pictures of A/C Setup Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 18:20:14 -0700 > > Anybody have any pictures of How the A/c Compressor is > mounted on an FE > motor > with all the pullies and brackets...Anybody with a digital > camera and a > A/C FE Truck???? > Joe > I have a 76 with an FE and AC. I would be happy to take some pics for you but I'm in CA for the rest of the week and won't be back at the homestead till a week from Monday. If you can wait that long I'll try to help you out. Tom H. ------------------------------ From: "sean michael bishop" Subject: Rear end question Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 23:06:22 EDT Hi all. I have a few questions. Does anyone know what gear ratios came stock in the Dana 60 1 ton rear end? I just purchased a 68 F-350 stepside long bed With a granny 4-speed and 300 HD. Id like to swap out the engine. Any suggestions on powerplants? Would a 351W be too small? Would a C6 handle that rearend plus a 2000 lb cargo? Oh well any help would be appreciated. Andy 79 F-150 fleetside 78 F-150 w/ 308 ci HD inline 6 68 F350 Longbed Stepside (My new toy) ______________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 21:03:06 -0700 From: Don Grossman Subject: Re: Pictures of A/C Setup >Anybody have any pictures of How the A/c Compressor is mounted on an FE >motor >with all the pullies and brackets...Anybody with a digital camera and a >A/C FE Truck???? >Joe If you can wait until Sunday boy do I have a picture for you ;) -- Don Grossman duckdon mac.com 43 GPW 63 F-100 4x4 77 F250 99 Contour ------------------------------ From: "Tim Neasham" Subject: Ammeter Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 21:34:22 -0700 Tom H: I'd love to know what to modify to get my ammeter working correctly. I annoys the bejeezus out of me that it's stuck on 0. I'm kinda anal about things like that. If it's there, it's supposed to work. Don't ask, I'm a nit-picky SOB. lol Thanks in advance for your help with the gauge. Tim Neasham Benton City, Washington '69 F-250 Camper Special ------------------------------ From: JJJJJGRANT aol.com Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 00:41:04 EDT Subject: headers and scattershield needed i just bought a 71 f250 2wd pulling truck, i want to find a set of good used headers and a scattershield for a 460, if anybody knows of anything let me know. jeff grant ------------------------------ From: SHill48337 aol.com Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 10:43:00 EDT Subject: Re: Rear end question There are several ratios that came stock, you can get what ever you want. If you are asking what your ration maybe, first look for small metal tag that spans between two bolts on the cover. It will give the ratio. My guess is 4.10 or higher numerical because of the 6 cylinder. The C-6 can easily and reliably handle what you are talking about. Is 351 too small, depends. For general purpose hauling, short trips,etc it is just fine, will not be as economical as the 300. If you are going to routinely pull a large camp trailer up steep hills at highway speeds, then you need something bigger. Keep in mind the 300 has some advantages. Burt Hill Kennewick WA 1972 F-250 4x4 460 << Hi all. I have a few questions. Does anyone know what gear ratios came stock in the Dana 60 1 ton rear end? I just purchased a 68 F-350 stepside long bed With a granny 4-speed and 300 HD. Id like to swap out the engine. Any suggestions on powerplants? Would a 351W be too small? Would a C6 handle that rearend plus a 2000 lb cargo? Oh well any help would be appreciated. Andy >> ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 10:46:20 -0400 From: Joe & Jen DeLaurentis Subject: Re: Pictures of A/C Setup Don, What do you have for me????Its sunday :) Joe Don Grossman wrote: > >Anybody have any pictures of How the A/c Compressor is mounted on an FE > >motor > >with all the pullies and brackets...Anybody with a digital camera and a > >A/C FE Truck???? > >Joe > > If you can wait until Sunday boy do I have a picture for you ;) > -- > Don Grossman > duckdon mac.com> > 43 GPW > 63 F-100 4x4 > 77 F250 > 99 Contour > ========================================================== > To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ford-trucks.com with> the words "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the subject of the > message. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 08:23:50 -0700 From: Don Grossman Subject: Re: Pictures of A/C Setup >Don, >What do you have for me????Its sunday :) >Joe > Here you go They are big and unedited so expect to spend some time if you have a slow connection. http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.pacific.net/~duckdon/pully.htm This is with the York compressor so you will have some kind of idea. I spent most of the time removing all the bodywork so I could get some good shots :) Laters -- Don Grossman duckdon mac.com43 GPW 63 F-100 4x4 77 F250 99 Contour ------------------------------ From: "Hogan, Tom" Subject: Re: Ammeter Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 08:34:41 -0700 > > Tom H: > > I'd love to know what to modify to get my ammeter working > correctly. I > annoys the bejeezus out of me that it's stuck on 0. I'm > kinda anal about > things like that. If it's there, it's supposed to work. > Don't ask, I'm a > nit-picky SOB. lol Thanks in advance for your help with the gauge. > > > Tim Neasham > Benton City, Washington > '69 F-250 Camper Special > Tim, I understand. I'm the same way. That's why I figured it out in the first place. The problem lies in the resistance value of the shunt used to protect the meter. The value is so low that the meter never gets current flow through it. The shunt is located in the wiring harness that connects three points under the hood -- the voltage regulator, the alternator and to the starter solenoid. If you pull that harness and unwrap it there is a large black wire. Basically all you need to do is cut that wire and splice in about 10 more feet of the same guage wire (don't need much resistance). Be careful how you splice in the new wire. I would recommend a solder joint with heat shrink over it rather than a crimp joint. Do not under any circumstance remove the shunt or leave it cut. You won't have an ammeter after about 3 seconds of operation. You can customize the response of the meter by varying the length of wire you splice in. For more info go to the archives and search on ammeter. There was a discussion about 2 years ago on this when we hashed it out. Good luck Tom H. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 11:42:40 -0700 From: Marv & Marge Miller Subject: Re: Engine Finally Done Mark in Southwest Washington wrote: > Oh man! I was going to paint my motor yellow because my truck is > green and yellow and I thought it would match better than blue. Mark, While looking at your Sanderson page, I noticed something I take issue with: Get rid of that orange THING, and replace it with something else, preferably white! (Wix or the Carquest equivalent). I, too, used them for years, having worked for AlliedSignal, but consider myself lucky to have survived all those semi-guarded miles. Just my opinion, you understand.......... ;-) -Marv- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 12:00:33 -0700 From: Marv & Marge Miller Subject: Driveline Vibrations Curtis Palmer > Today, I had the drive shafts balanced and the problem is still there. > I even tried rotating the shafts 90 degrees but that made it worse. Curtis, see: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.classictruckshop.  com/t4.htmGood primer on driveline geometry. Thanks to Delanty for the URL. -Marv ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 15:49:26 -0500 From: Dan Herrmann Subject: Re: Farm and Ranch Special Page 10 of the `69 Ford Truck Sales Brochure shows pictures of the Farm & Ranch and Contractor Special packaged trucks. There was also a Heavy Duty special package as well. The Farm & Ranch came standard with: HD Battery, HD Alternator, HD Front & Rear springs, rear Step Bumper, Bright b/s Moldings, Dual chrome Western swing-lock Mirrors, Front & 9-inch high side Cargo boards and the F&R special insignia on the cowl side. The Contractor Special came with: HD Front & Rear Springs, Step Bumper, Convenience group of choice, Dual chrome Western s/l mirrors, Contractor tool boxes on both sides of the bed with key-lock fold-down doors and insignia on cowl side. Was also offered with a second package which included the Under-Hood Electric Power Pak. All three models was offered with Standard, Custom Cab & Ranger models. My brother used to have a 68' F&R 3/4 ton that had a "Farm & Ranch" Decal on the back bedside where the Ranger nameplate would normally be. Dan Herrmann ------------------------------ From: "mike schuh" Subject: Re: 1975-1977 Box swap Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 16:27:56 CDT the cab & front clip will bolt up.you might have to drill different holes for the box. wire harness will also work from 2 wheel drive you will have to use 4 wheel steering column and brake pedal,master cylinder,& brake booster 351m will not bolt to tranny if you have a 360,390,302 ,300 6 hope this helps ______________________________________________________ ------------------------------ From: "T.Q. Dermako" Subject: What's it worth? Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 21:03:03 -0400 Hi all - I've recently come into possession of a 67 Econoline Supervan. It was driven sparingly by the guy who owned it and then garaged for years after his death. It has 47k original miles. It has the 240 engine/3 spd. combo. Engine seized due to sitting (verified by my rebuilder, a guy I trust). This is also borne out by the condition of the bearings. Nothing is missing, interior in PERFECT shape, down to the odd optional passenger jump seat. It was a "Display Van" according to the literature (6 doors, 11 windows), so no other interior. No radio was fitted and no cutout for one. Original paint is oxidized, but a test compunding/waxing gives me hope of bringing it back. Some surface rust but only 2 small rust outs behind the rear bumper where all the road crap collects. Window/door seals are shot. Have some original service records, owners manual, etc. I'm not a collector, but would like to know the value of this before I start doing things I might regret - engine mods, interior, stereo, nice wheels, etc. Not really thinking of selling it, just curious. 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