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Received: with LISTAR (v0.128a; list 61-79-list); Thu, 13 Apr 2000 15:37:42 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 15:37:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Ford Truck Enthusiasts List Server To: 61-79-list digest users Reply-to: 61-79-list Subject: 61-79-list Digest V2000 #67 Precedence: bulk ========================================================== Ford Truck Enthusiasts 1961-1979 Truck Mailing List Visit our web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com To unsubscribe, send email to: listar the words "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the subject of the message. ========================================================== ------------------------------------ 61-79-list Digest Wed, 12 Apr 2000 Volume: 2000 Issue: 067 In This Issue: Horn on '76 F150 Ranger XLT Re: FW: tire conversions Re: Price of a New Ford 1964 Ford F-100 Re: horn on 76 Ranger Solid Gold 78 F-250 4x4 Pitman Arm TripToTheGreatPacificNW II ADMIN: Ford employee in Atlanta? Re: parting out 79 f100, Re: ADMIN: Ford employee in Atlanta? Replacing fenderwell Re: ADMIN: Ford employee in Atlanta? Re: TripToTheGreatPacificNW II Re: Replacing fenderwell Re: 1964 Ford F-100 Re: 1964 Ford F-100 84 to 78 axle swap Re: 84 to 78 axle swap Re: TripToTheGreatPacificNW II Re: 1964 Ford F-100 Re: TripToTheGreatPacificNW II Re: 1964 Ford F-100 Re: FW: tire conversions Re: 84 to 78 axle swap Rearend Re: FW: tire conversions Re: FW: tire conversions Turn signal switch '67F100 Re: Turn signal switch '67F100 New Bed On Truck 390 engine ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 15:49:07 -0500 From: Jon Beller Subject: Horn on '76 F150 Ranger XLT Howdy Group, I've got a question that hopefully someone can give some insight to. The horn on my '76 hasn't worked correctly for a while and after digging into it found a few things: 1. The horn will honk if the wheel is turned approx. 90 degrees in either direction. 2. The tab that the horn button assembly connects to has fire. 3. The column itself (that the sterring wheel bolts to) does not seem to be making a ground connection. If I ground the horn to something else everything works fine. Any suggestions are appreciated... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 16:53:30 -0400 From: James Oxley Subject: Re: FW: tire conversions John LaGrone wrote: > > Bill (wish) has done it again. He's fast he's good, he's handsome, he's > witty, ..you get the picture. He posted the tire charts at > > http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://ranger3.cc.iastate.edu/Www2/John/tireconv.html > > Enjoy, FTE!!! Thanks again, Bill. > Thanks John and Bill, good stuff. I know I've asked this before, but is 7.00X 15D bigger than an L78-15B. OX ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 13:49:57 -0700 From: "Mike Sealey" <75.f150 Subject: Re: Price of a New Ford I believe a new bottomline Ford could have been purchased for around $1800 in '55 more-or-less. Something with a bunch of those profitable options (I'm thinking '55 Fairlane, V8, A/T, radio, heater, ps/pb, wheel covers, whitewalls) would probably have gone around $2400-$2500. --- Mike Sealey San Francisco CA '75 F-150 Ranger, 390/C6 ("Redneck Continental") On Wed, 16 Feb 2000 21:36:49 Kiernan, Denny wrote: >Any of you all old enough, with your memory still intact, who can >remember what a new Ford, car or truck, sold for back around 1955? Or >any time back around then? > >Or do you know of a website that would provide this kind of info. > >I'm interested in comparing what I made when I was a kid with what I >make now in our wonderful New Millenium, in terms of buying power. > >Also, does anyone know about ancient Ford history like this: It seems I >remember reading that ol' Henry made a splash back in the early thirties >by paying his factory workers $5 a day, and the price of a new Ford car >was $500. So a worker could buy a car with 100 days' work. Which maybe >compares pretty well with today? What do you think the average auto >worker makes, $20/hr? >========================================================== >To unsubscribe, send email to: listar >the words "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the body of the >message. > > Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.angelfire.com ------------------------------ From: "Moore, Jimmy" Subject: 1964 Ford F-100 Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 16:35:10 -0500 I'm looking at purchasing a 1964 Ford F-100. I think it is called Flareside? It has the 292 V-8. It is missing the water pump, radiator, and the attachments. I tried starting it, but for some reason it is not getting fire. It has a spare transmission. The floorboards are rusted out, and need replaced. The bed is in need of repair, it has rust around the bottom edges, and the wheel wells are dented up. There is no tailgate or taillights. The seat is in bad shape. It has been primered. It has the original emblems (metal ones) for the hood. The guy is wanting $750 for it. Is it worth it? Thanks, Jim Moore ------------------------------ From: JUMPINFORD Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 18:20:41 EDT Subject: Re: horn on 76 Ranger Sounds to me like the strap on the column that goes around the rag joint is disconnected or broken, check down there, should solve the problem. Darrell Duggan 74 F-350 "Tweety" ------------------------------ From: BDIJXS Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 20:44:28 EDT Subject: Solid Gold 78 F-250 4x4 Pitman Arm There was some talk recently about these pitman arms. Ford still has them, part number D7TZ-3590-C. I believe that it is made out of solid gold. That is the only way I can explain the cost. CJ (Colorado Jeff) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 18:42:38 -0700 (PDT) From: "J. Allison" Subject: TripToTheGreatPacificNW II Howdy again! I have gotten several replies to my query about a mini FTE get together in Vancouver, WA or Portland, Or. So far zip outta the Seattle crowd. They must be dead up there (kidding!) What's shaping up so far is this Sunday afternoon in the Shari's parking lot on Mill Plain across from the Fred Meyer shopping center. That's practically right next to I-205 right across the 205 bridge coming North from PDX. That's the airport for the un-initiated. draco "Mark" owner/driver of The GREEN Monster) had the seemingly best idea as it is centrally located for a lot of folks. Plus, he works nearby, the scoundrel :) So... there is the latest. Sorry for the short notice but I wasn't sure about the trip in the first place, sorry. If anybody else wants to show up or get info then please e-mail off list. I will get back to you within 1/2 a day max. Ok, now you know. I'm a net junkie... Where else can I find so much stuff about Ford TRUCKS?!?! Sincerely, J. Allison __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send online invitations with Yahoo! Invites. http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://invites.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 22:16:37 -0400 From: Ken Payne Subject: ADMIN: Ford employee in Atlanta? If anyone on the lists is a Ford employee in the Atlanta area, please contact me at kpayne hoping to arrange an FTE member tour of the Atlanta plant in July or August. Thanks, Ken Payne Admin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts ------------------------------ From: JJJJJGRANT Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 22:33:28 EDT Subject: Re: parting out 79 f100, dash pad is junk, doors 75.00 each with the glass ------------------------------ From: JJJJJGRANT Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 22:54:48 EDT Subject: Re: ADMIN: Ford employee in Atlanta? i stood inline for three hours hoping to become a ford employee, but have not had a call yet. but, i know several people that work there and one of them happens to be a 73-79 ford truck nut. i can ask him. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 22:31:26 -0500 From: "Howard Bottles" Subject: Replacing fenderwell The passenger side fenderwell on my '74 F350 is rusted out in the battery area, and needs replaced. Has anyone had the opportunity to replace it with the front clip still on the truck? Is this even possible? I just don't want my battery to fall out before I get a a replacement in. Also, anyone in the central Texas area have one for sale? TIA Howardb ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 23:32:31 -0400 From: Ken Payne Subject: Re: ADMIN: Ford employee in Atlanta? At 10:54 PM 4/12/00 -0400, you wrote: >i stood inline for three hours hoping to become a ford employee, but have not >had a call yet. but, i know several people that work there and one of them >happens to be a 73-79 ford truck nut. i can ask him. Thanks, it would be greatly appreciated. Ken ------------------------------ From: canzus Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 20:45:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: TripToTheGreatPacificNW II At 06:42 PM 12:04:2000 -0700, J. Allison wrote: > Howdy again! >I have gotten several replies to my query about a mini >FTE get together in Vancouver, WA or Portland, Or. So >far zip outta the Seattle crowd. They must be dead up >there (kidding!) I'm up for a get together in Seattle, problem is, I don't know where there are any Shari's in the Seattle area. Now if you wanna go to the Eastside, Redmond ( the home of the evil empire) has one that I know of.... Steve & the Rockette 68 F100, 390cid, FMX 63 F100, 292cid, 3speed 72 Capri 2000, hers 73 Capri 2600,tube frame going in..... 73 MGB GT, Our Toy 94 SHO, SWMBO's 98 Contour SVT, Mine, Mine, All Mine.... ------------------------------ From: "sean michael bishop" Subject: Re: Replacing fenderwell Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 23:47:14 EDT Are you lookin for a inner fenders. If so I got a pair you can have for $50 ea plus shippin. Im in Florida. >From: "Howard Bottles" >Reply-To: 61-79-list >To: "61-79-list >Subject: [61-79-list] Replacing fenderwell >Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 22:31:26 -0500 > >The passenger side fenderwell on my '74 F350 is rusted out in the >battery area, and needs replaced. Has anyone had the opportunity to >replace it with the front clip still on the truck? Is this even >possible? I just don't want my battery to fall out before I get a a >replacement in. > >Also, anyone in the central Texas area have one for sale? > >TIA > >Howardb >========================================================== >To unsubscribe, send email to: listar >the words "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the subject of the >message. > ______________________________________________________ ------------------------------ From: WEDIVE247 Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 23:53:00 EDT Subject: Re: 1964 Ford F-100 In a message dated 4/12/2000 4:38:08 PM EST, MooreJ << 'm looking at purchasing a 1964 Ford F-100. I think it is called Flareside? It has the 292 V-8. It is missing the water pump, radiator, and the attachments. I tried starting it, but for some reason it is not getting fire. It has a spare transmission. The floorboards are rusted out, and need replaced. The bed is in need of repair, it has rust around the bottom edges, and the wheel wells are dented up. There is no tailgate or taillights. The seat is in bad shape. It has been primered. It has the original emblems (metal ones) for the hood. The guy is wanting $750 for it. Is it worth it? Thanks, Jim Moore >> Hey Jimbo, You better think twice about that 750.00 special . I bought my 64 two years ago for 300.00 , and drove it home ! Mine had very little rust , the motor had been changed out to a 351 W , and for the most part every thing was there (in a bucket in the bed rusting ) but never the less there . I'm thinking if you're really into a project , you might want to try to get the price down a little more first . If you do jump into it enjoy .. Steve 64 f-100 460 ci ------------------------------ From: "sean michael bishop" Subject: Re: 1964 Ford F-100 Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 00:07:24 EDT I agree, thats a hard motor to find parts for and the body work sounds extensive. I'd definately pass or at least be lookin in the 200 to 300 range max. Sounds like this guys tryin to rip you off. >From: WEDIVE247 >Reply-To: 61-79-list >To: 61-79-list >Subject: [61-79-list] Re: 1964 Ford F-100 >Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 23:53:00 EDT > >In a message dated 4/12/2000 4:38:08 PM EST, MooreJ > ><< 'm looking at purchasing a 1964 Ford F-100. I think it is called > Flareside? It has the 292 V-8. It is missing the water pump, radiator, >and > the attachments. I tried starting it, but for some reason it is not >getting > fire. It has a spare transmission. The floorboards are rusted out, and > need replaced. The bed is in need of repair, it has rust around the >bottom > edges, and the wheel wells are dented up. There is no tailgate or > taillights. The seat is in bad shape. It has been primered. It has the > original emblems (metal ones) for the hood. The guy is wanting $750 for >it. > Is it worth it? > Thanks, > Jim Moore >> > > > Hey Jimbo, > You better think twice about that 750.00 special . I >bought my 64 two years ago for 300.00 , and drove it home ! Mine had very >little rust , the motor had been changed out to a 351 W , and for the most >part every thing was there (in a bucket in the bed rusting ) but never the >less there . I'm thinking if you're really into a project , you might want >to >try to get the price down a little more first . If you do jump into it >enjoy >.. > > > >Steve 64 f-100 460 ci >========================================================== >To unsubscribe, send email to: listar >the words "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the subject of the >message. > ______________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 02:39:16 -0400 From: George Selby Subject: 84 to 78 axle swap I have a 86 8.8 I'm sticking in my F-150 until I can rebuild my 9" with some lower gears. The spring widths, spring mounting locations, and axle width are all the same. Same brakes, same wheels. Same axle vent tube. Only difference could be the yoke on the input. The caps on the u-joints are the same diameter, but on some trucks the cross is about 1" shorter, and therefore won't work. I know this because whenever I have to change my u-joints, they always look it up and give me the wrong size. Good thing I can drive on my front shaft with the back disconnected. George 78 f-150 4x4 400 4 on floor ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 08:45:36 -0400 From: James Oxley Subject: Re: 84 to 78 axle swap George Selby wrote: > > I have a 86 8.8 I'm sticking in my F-150 until I can rebuild my 9" with > some lower gears. > > The spring widths, spring mounting locations, and axle width are all the > same. Same brakes, same wheels. Same axle vent tube. > > Only difference could be the yoke on the input. The caps on the > u-joints are the same diameter, but on some trucks the cross is about 1" > shorter, and therefore won't work. You have 4 actual combinations of possible U-joints. 1310 series is 3.25 inches cross to cross (outside). 1330 series is 3.625 inches cross to cross. Either series could have cap diameters of 1-1/16 or 1-1/8 (measure carefully). Many post 80's trucks had those weirdo U-joints with different cap sizes on 2 ends of cross vs the other two ;-). OX ------------------------------ From: "Josh Assing" Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 06:01:30 -0700 Subject: Re: TripToTheGreatPacificNW II > far zip outta the Seattle crowd. They must be dead up Just all too busy! If I get my differential fixed; I'd show up! Also depends on when.... -josh 72F100 4x4 ------------------------------ From: "Moore, Jimmy" Subject: Re: 1964 Ford F-100 Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 08:23:20 -0500 Thanks guys for your input. I talked to him again last night, and he has come down to $400, but I am not sure about that, either. If I can get him down more, I'll let you know. Jim MOore -----Original Message----- From: sean michael bishop [mailto:eaglekeeper50 Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2000 11:07 PM To: 61-79-list Subject: [61-79-list] Re: 1964 Ford F-100 I agree, thats a hard motor to find parts for and the body work sounds extensive. I'd definately pass or at least be lookin in the 200 to 300 range max. Sounds like this guys tryin to rip you off. >From: WEDIVE247 >Reply-To: 61-79-list >To: 61-79-list >Subject: [61-79-list] Re: 1964 Ford F-100 >Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 23:53:00 EDT > >In a message dated 4/12/2000 4:38:08 PM EST, MooreJ > ><< 'm looking at purchasing a 1964 Ford F-100. I think it is called > Flareside? It has the 292 V-8. It is missing the water pump, radiator, >and > the attachments. I tried starting it, but for some reason it is not >getting > fire. It has a spare transmission. The floorboards are rusted out, and > need replaced. The bed is in need of repair, it has rust around the >bottom > edges, and the wheel wells are dented up. There is no tailgate or > taillights. The seat is in bad shape. It has been primered. It has the > original emblems (metal ones) for the hood. The guy is wanting $750 for >it. > Is it worth it? > Thanks, > Jim Moore >> > > > Hey Jimbo, > You better think twice about that 750.00 special . I >bought my 64 two years ago for 300.00 , and drove it home ! Mine had very >little rust , the motor had been changed out to a 351 W , and for the most >part every thing was there (in a bucket in the bed rusting ) but never the >less there . I'm thinking if you're really into a project , you might want >to >try to get the price down a little more first . If you do jump into it >enjoy >.. > > > >Steve 64 f-100 460 ci >========================================================== >To unsubscribe, send email to: listar >the words "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the subject of the >message. > ______________________________________________________ ========================================================== To unsubscribe, send email to: listar the words "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the subject of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 06:31:33 -0700 From: "James A. Doty" Subject: Re: TripToTheGreatPacificNW II Hi Josh: What time? there (kidding!) What's shaping up so far is this >Sunday afternoon in the Shari's parking lot on Mill >Plain across from the Fred Meyer shopping center. >That's practically right next to I-205 right across >the 205 bridge coming North from PDX. That's the >airport for the un-initiated. draco >"Mark" owner/driver of The GREEN Monster) had the >seemingly best idea as it is centrally located for a >lot of folks. Plus, he works nearby, the scoundrel :) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 09:41:32 -0400 From: Ted Wnorowski Subject: Re: 1964 Ford F-100 Seems like everyone steered you in the right direction on this one. I paid $1040 for mine, but the engine was a fresh rebuild, along with the WHOLE front end being rebuilt, plus a few other things thrown in. I would try talking him down some more. Tell him "THE 61-79-LIST SAID SO!!!!!!!" Ted Wnorowski Bellevue,OH ' 64 F-250 352 transplant 4 speed ' 63 F-100 parts truck W/more kidney stones in tow ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 08:46:50 -0500 Subject: Re: FW: tire conversions From: "John LaGrone" > John LaGrone wrote: >> >> Bill (wish) has done it again. He's fast he's good, he's handsome, he's >> witty, ..you get the picture. He posted the tire charts at >> >> http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://ranger3.cc.iastate.edu/Www2/John/tireconv.html >> >> Enjoy, FTE!!! Thanks again, Bill. >> > > Thanks John and Bill, good stuff. I know I've asked this before, but is > 7.00X 15D bigger than an L78-15B. > > OX Shrug???? I don't know the answer to that one, Ox. -- John jlagrone 1979 F150 Custom, Long Wide Bed, Regular Cab, 351M, C6 (Henry) http://www.ford-trucks.com/jlagrone/henry.home.htm Dearborn iron rules!!!! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 08:51:40 -0500 Subject: Re: 84 to 78 axle swap From: "John LaGrone" > Many post 80's trucks had those weirdo U-joints > with different cap sizes on 2 ends of cross vs the other two ;-). > > OX Post 80s nothing. My 79 is weird that way if I understand your meaning. I had to buy three u-joints to make the two I needed. -- John jlagrone 1979 F150 Custom, Long Wide Bed, Regular Cab, 351M, C6 (Henry) http://www.ford-trucks.com/jlagrone/henry.home.htm Dearborn iron rules!!!! ------------------------------ From: "sean michael bishop" Subject: Rearend Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 10:31:46 EDT What kind of gear ratio came in the factory Dana rearend for a 68 f-350. Also what would I have to do to the drive shaft to hook it up to a C-6. Andy ______________________________________________________ ------------------------------ From: skordik Subject: Re: FW: tire conversions Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 09:51:21 -0500 Some of this is from memory. I think a 7.00X15D has a diameter of about 30" and a tread width of about 6". A L78-15B has a diameter of about 29" and a width of about 7" (this may be off a little). Steve Kordik -----Original Message----- > Thanks John and Bill, good stuff. I know I've asked this before, but is 7.00X 15D bigger than an L78-15B. OX __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 11:29:12 -0400 From: James Oxley Subject: Re: FW: tire conversions John LaGrone wrote: > > > John LaGrone wrote: > >> > >> Bill (wish) has done it again. He's fast he's good, he's handsome, he's > >> witty, ..you get the picture. He posted the tire charts at > >> > >> http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://ranger3.cc.iastate.edu/Www2/John/tireconv.html > >> > >> Enjoy, FTE!!! Thanks again, Bill. > >> > > > > Thanks John and Bill, good stuff. I know I've asked this before, but is > > 7.00X 15D bigger than an L78-15B. > > > > OX > > Shrug???? I don't know the answer to that one, Ox. > I've been told the 7.00 X 15D (optional on 78 Broncos) is close to 30 inch, but I'm still searching for correct answer. OX ------------------------------ From: "Southerland, Rich" Subject: Turn signal switch '67F100 Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 11:47:48 -0700 I need a source for a turn signal switch for a '67 F100. I've ordered 3 from local stores (2 different stores) who each have assured me I was ordering the switch and all 3 times I've received the plastic cam piece. Is anyone still making the switch? Help!!!! ------------------------------ From: "Southerland, Rich" Subject: Re: Turn signal switch '67F100 Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 12:04:20 -0700 Answered my own question (maybe). Local CarQuest (a real hole-in-the-wall store) will have one for me tomorrow evening. They called the supplier, had them open the box and describe it. Sounds like the right one, we'll see... Rich -----Original Message----- From: Southerland, Rich [mailto:rsouther Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2000 11:48 AM To: '61-79-list Subject: [61-79-list] Turn signal switch '67F100 I need a source for a turn signal switch for a '67 F100. I've ordered 3 from local stores (2 different stores) who each have assured me I was ordering the switch and all 3 times I've received the plastic cam piece. Is anyone still making the switch? Help!!!! ========================================================== To unsubscribe, send email to: listar the words "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the subject of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 16:21:50 -0400 From: George Selby Subject: New Bed On Truck Got my newer (by 1 year) bed on my truck today. Junkyard owner relented and for the first time ever let me drive my truck back there so we only had to move it 20 feet to the right and over another truck (fortunately a very short Isuzu.) Takes 4 to lift a bed, 6 makes it a lot easier and the 8 we had (two friends of mine showed up at the wrong time [for them], and I already had 6 collected) made it a relative breeze. George 78 F-150 4x4 400 4 on floor/79 Bed ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 14:42:12 -0600 From: "JJ Secrist" Subject: 390 engine how much horsepower and torque does a 1969 390 have? Is it 190 hp like it says on the carburator? thanks ------------------------------ End of 61-79-list Digest V2000 #67 ********************************** ---------------------------------------------------------- Ford Truck Enthusiasts 1961-1979 Truck Mailing List Send posts to 61-79-list If you ever want to remove yourself from this mailing list, send an email to: listar with the words "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the subject of the message. Visit Our Web Site: http://www.ford-trucks.com ---------------------------------------------------------- .... To access the rest of this feature you must be a logged in Registered User Of Ford Truck Enthusiasts
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