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61-79-list Digest Mon, 10 Apr 2000 Volume: 2000 Issue: 065

In This Issue:
Re: high oil pressure
Re: high oil pressure
My new truck bed
Re: Hot Rod Archives
Re: Hot Rod Archives
Re: high oil pressure
increasing compression
Re: REPLACEMENT GRILLS
Re: REPLACEMENT GRILLS
ADMIN: Server upgrade
Re: My new truck bed
78 & 79 Emission systems
parting out 79 f100,
Cab Mount Removal
garage cleaning, stuff for sale
Re: parting out 79 f100,
Re: parting out 79 f100,
Re: parting out 79 f100,
Re: Portland Machine shops.
Re: REPLACEMENT GRILLS
Piston ID
Re: Portland Machine shops.
World Ford Challenge
Re: Piston ID
FE oiling system
New Technology for our gas guzzler
Gas tank plumbing
Re: Gas tank plumbing
World of Wheels
Re: 78 & 79 Emission systems
Re: Piston ID
Re: Gas tank plumbing
Re: World of Wheels
Wires for large Dist Cap on FE

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From: "bronco66" teleport.com>
Subject: Re: high oil pressure
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 12:30:11 -0700

on the other hand, is it bad to have high oil pressure? In my 72 f100 at
idle my gage sits at about 3/4 and when driving it is almost all the way to
the right side. Is this ok?




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Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 16:40:21 -0400
From: "Christopher J. Phillips" mail.med.upenn.edu>
Subject: Re: high oil pressure

on the other hand, is it bad to have high oil pressure? In my 72 f100 at
idle my gage sits at about 3/4 and when driving it is almost all the way to
the right side. Is this ok?



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Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 16:59:31 -0400
From: George Selby ibox.net>
Subject: My new truck bed



Well, I never found out how to get the bed with the tool box off, it
just had too many frozen bolts, and I was going to have to go there
every day for a week and saw them off one by one with a cordless drill
and a cutting wheel. (2) Batteries would only chop the head off (1)
bolt before dying. Incidentally this is the quickest method to remove a
bed bolt if it can't be unbolted from below. Just cut two parallel line
perpindicular to the long axis of the bed. Make them about 1/2" apart
and centered accross the bolt head. When you are almost through you can
hit the part you are removing with a cold chisel and it will break right
off. Then do two more line perpindicular to the two you just cut. When
these are cut the bolt will drop right down.

Now the good news. I just went down there and new got in a new (to him)
Ford truck. It has a good bed, better then the other one really, but no
tool box in the boed side, and I just went down there and in 1 hour
removed 7 of the 8 bolts. Just have to cut one, and I think I can
remove the tool box from the other bed and put it in my new bed.

George Selby
78 F-150 4x4 400 4 on floor
86 Nissan 300ZXna
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Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 14:39:23 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dan Lee yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Hot Rod Archives

I have been rereading the 400M Down & Dirty Article in
from Sept '98 issue of Hot Rod Mag. They say that they
get 9.45:1CR w/+.030 Silv-O-Lite pistons and shaving
the heads 0.025, but they don't give a part Number for
those pistons. In High Performance Options for the
351M/400 Engine by Dave Resch, there are no Keith
Black pistons listed for the 400. The only pistons
listed produce about 8.0:1 CR. The Ohio Pin & Piston
units are flat tops and should be 9.0:1 CR, slightly
higher with a +0.030 overbore. Dave's article doesn't
include the flattop pistons. Is it also missing a KB
piston?

Dan Lee
'53 F100
400C-4V

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From: "Bill Beyer" pacifier.com>
Subject: Re: Hot Rod Archives
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 15:08:54 -0700

KB discontinued production of the hypereutectic Silv-O-Lite piston. They
only make a standard cast replacement piston now p/n 1160. It has a nominal
C:R of 7.9:1. There has been some discussion both on & off the list about
the numbers that the article claims for C:R with the minimal amount of head
shaving they did. It just doesn't add up frankly. When Dave wrote the
article he wasn't aware of the Ohio Piston offering so that's why it wasn't
included in his write up.

"If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, riddle them with bullets"

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Sent: Monday, April 10, 2000 2:39 PM
Subject: [61-79-list] Re: Hot Rod Archives


> I have been rereading the 400M Down & Dirty Article in
> from Sept '98 issue of Hot Rod Mag. They say that they
> get 9.45:1CR w/+.030 Silv-O-Lite pistons and shaving
> the heads 0.025, but they don't give a part Number for
> those pistons. In High Performance Options for the
> 351M/400 Engine by Dave Resch, there are no Keith
> Black pistons listed for the 400. The only pistons
> listed produce about 8.0:1 CR. The Ohio Pin & Piston
> units are flat tops and should be 9.0:1 CR, slightly
> higher with a +0.030 overbore. Dave's article doesn't
> include the flattop pistons. Is it also missing a KB
> piston?




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From: "G & J Boling" alltel.net>
Subject: Re: high oil pressure
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 19:36:55 -0400




is it bad to have high oil pressure? at
> idle my gage sits at about 3/4 and when driving it is almost all the way
to
> the right side. >
>
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HI
sounds like you may have a newly rebuilt engine with a HIGH VOLUME -HIGH
PRESSURE pump installed in it i wouldnt worry to much about the high
pressure really i have a good friend who builds F/Es for a living and he has
been running a 300h.p. 352 cu.in. engine for 10 years as yours is if there
was a problem he wouldve changed his long ago so just DRIVE IT and BE HAPPY
GORDON


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From: "G & J Boling" alltel.net>
Subject: increasing compression
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 19:44:27 -0400

i see here someone is wanting to increase their compression IF the block is
out of the vehicle why not have it DECKED and the intake and heads shaved a
good rule for shaving the heads i have found is if you remove .060 from the
head remove .030 from each side of the intake as well for a proper fit
having the block decked will bring the piston to the top of the block closer
to the head then thereby increasing the compression ratio
gordon
62 t bird
69 f150
79 f100


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Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 20:51:45 -0500
From: Dan Herrmann in-motion.net>
Subject: Re: REPLACEMENT GRILLS

At 02:54 PM 4/9/00 -0400, you wrote:
>HI
>i am new to this list and need to know if anyone can tell me of any
>aftermarket grills for a 69 F 150 or if anyone knows where i can get one
>thanks
>gordon

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Gordon, The grille your looking for is a highly prized posestion. The 67,
68 & 69 Grilles are extremely difficult to find. Ford dropped all of these
years ago and the NOS market for these grilles has been dried up for many
years. If you do find one, Grab-it! But you'll pay dearly for it!! I have
been watching for an NOS 69' Ranger Grille for many years now with no luck.
Forget about any aftermarket grilles suggested earlier, no one makes them.
The 67-69 grilles are a one-piece stamped unit that no one has begun to
reproduce. Tube grilles are only available to replace plastic inserts used
on the 1970 & UP Trucks.

If you really need an NOS original for a top notch show truck then Call
DALE KING OBSOLETE FORD PARTS in Liberty, KY. He was just at the Columbus
Swap Meet and had an NOS 69' Aluminum Grille. But get ready to dig deep
into your pockets!!! His was not the Ranger type - Ranger grille had the
Red stripe. Your other hope would be to find a perfect straight Aluminum or
Steel grille and send it out for refinishing or chrome plating.

Good Luck!!

Dan Herrmann

1964 F100 Custom Cab
1966 F100 Custom Cab
1969 F100 Ranger
1975 F150 Explorer
1979 F150 Ranger XLT
1992 F150 Custom (daily driver)



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From: "G & J Boling" alltel.net>
Subject: Re: REPLACEMENT GRILLS
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 22:07:46 -0400

HI
I have found a couple of grills for mine SO FAR but they have been between
100.00 and 150.00 each BUT i figure there has GOTTA BE some cheaper yet
SOMEWHERES
are they 67/68/69 grills interchangeable IF SO that gives me MORE options
then it doesnt really matter to me if it is completely original or not as
long as it looks presentable
thanks
gordon
========================================================
> Gordon, The grille your looking for is a highly prized posestion. The 67,
> 68 & 69 Grilles are extremely difficult to find. Ford dropped all of these
> years ago and the NOS market for these grilles has been dried up for many
> years. If you do find one, Grab-it! But you'll pay dearly for it!! I have
> been watching for an NOS 69' Ranger Grille for many years now with no
luck.
> Forget about any aftermarket grilles suggested earlier, no one makes them.
> The 67-69 grilles are a one-piece stamped unit that no one has begun to
> reproduce. Tube grilles are only available to replace plastic inserts used
> on the 1970 & UP Trucks.
>
> If you really need an NOS original for a top notch show truck then Call
> DALE KING OBSOLETE FORD PARTS in Liberty, KY. He was just at the Columbus
> Swap Meet and had an NOS 69' Aluminum Grille. But get ready to dig deep
> into your pockets!!! His was not the Ranger type - Ranger grille had the
> Red stripe. Your other hope would be to find a perfect straight Aluminum
or
> Steel grille and send it out for refinishing or chrome plating.
>
> Good Luck!!
>
> Dan Herrmann
>
> 1964 F100 Custom Cab
> 1966 F100 Custom Cab
> 1969 F100 Ranger
> 1975 F150 Explorer
> 1979 F150 Ranger XLT
> 1992 F150 Custom (daily driver)
>
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Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 22:34:50 -0400
From: Ken Payne ford-trucks.com>
Subject: ADMIN: Server upgrade

The server will be going down for approximate 30-60
minutes on Wednesday or Thursday between 2-3pm EST.
The 2nd hard drive is being added in anticipation
of additional services we have planned.

Ken Payne
Admin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts




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From: JJJJJGRANT aol.com
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 23:43:00 EDT
Subject: Re: My new truck bed

if anyone needs a side tool box, let me know. a friend has a rusty bed with
the tool box in the side, the sides and the tool box are in good cond. he
wants 100.00 for the bed. i thought about buying it just to cut the toolbox
out, and put it in my bed.

jeff grant

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From: JJJJJGRANT aol.com
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 23:56:57 EDT
Subject: 78 & 79 Emission systems

i have two trucks that are about as original as you can find, one is a 78
f100,swb,2wd
302, automatic, as far as emissions, it has an EGR valve under the carb, some
type of box with vacuum lines running to it located below the battery, and a
thing just before the muffler which i assume is a catylic converter, but it
has no lines or hoses going to it. and no smog pump.

the other truck is a 79 lwb, 2wd, 302 automatic, it has a full fledge
emission control system, smog pump, catylic converter, thermactor, EGR valve,
the box under the battery and a bunch of other stuff. everything still works,
truck only shows 52,000 miles and i believe it is actual miles.

i hope this will help clear up some of the questions about what came on 78-79
trucks



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From: JJJJJGRANT aol.com
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 00:09:35 EDT
Subject: parting out 79 f100,

i hate to part this truck, but i'm in need of the bed, grille shell, grille
and a few other pieces. the odometer only shows 52,000 miles and i believe
its actual, everything is so clean and complete, it has 302, automatic trans,
9" rear, complete air condition set up, complete emissions set up, power disc
brakes, power steering, i have not decided on the doors, front fenders, hood,
if anyone is interested let me know.

jeff grant

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Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 21:13:49 -0700 (PDT)
From: Douglas Trotter yahoo.com>
Subject: Cab Mount Removal

I have purchased a replacement cab mount kit from
Dennis Carpenter and am looking for advice as to how
to remove the old mounts. They appear to be
permanently coupled in some way, but I suspect that
there may be an easy way to remove them short of a
hack saw. Can someone help me with this?

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From: JJJJJGRANT aol.com
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 00:30:37 EDT
Subject: garage cleaning, stuff for sale

351 windsor engine with alot of performance parts (over $1,300.00 worth) sell
all for 800.00 may seperate
351-cleveland parts, 4 bolt main block already .030 overbore $75.00 4v closed
chamber heads $200.00, 4v cast iron intake $50.00

351-w rear sump oil pan for a 4x4 $50.00

351-w oil pan kit for a 79-93 mustang $150.00

5.0 factory mustang headers $50.00

2 1/2" polished stainless steel exhaust pipes for 85-93 mustang (lx type)
made by dynomax, less than 1000 miles $140.00

misc carburetors in need of rebuilding: motorcraft 2v $20.00, 4v $40.00
holley 600 $50.00, 650-850 double pumper $100.00

78-79 truck, lwd side moulding from front to back, both sides $75.00


let me know if anyone is interested.

jeff grant
griffin, ga









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Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 21:44:05 -0700
From: Jason Derra internetcds.com>
Subject: Re: parting out 79 f100,

Jeff,
Where you at?
Jason

JJJJJGRANT aol.com wrote:

> i hate to part this truck, but i'm in need of the bed, grille shell, grille
> and a few other pieces. the odometer only shows 52,000 miles and i believe
> its actual, everything is so clean and complete, it has 302, automatic trans,
> 9" rear, complete air condition set up, complete emissions set up, power disc
> brakes, power steering, i have not decided on the doors, front fenders, hood,
> if anyone is interested let me know.
>
> jeff grant
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From: JJJJJGRANT aol.com
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 01:00:46 EDT
Subject: Re: parting out 79 f100,

griffin, ga 40 miles south of atlanta

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From: JJJJJGRANT aol.com
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 01:00:59 EDT
Subject: Re: parting out 79 f100,

griffin, ga 40 miles south of atlanta

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From: "Chris Samuel" email.msn.com>
Subject: Re: Portland Machine shops.
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 23:27:59 -0700

SNIP<
-> I am moving to Oregon where I hear there are many FTEers;
-> favorite mechanics
-> for old trucks around Portland? Favorite machine shop (need my rear
-> driveshaft lengthened)?
->
-> Thanks again,
-> Jeff

Hi, Jeff.

Hostile Native Oregonian here!-)
I don't have a favorite mechanic for old Ford Trucks as I do my own work, so
I'm not much help there.
There are a ton of machine shops in the Portland metro area, some good some
bad, depends on who you talk to, and what you want. For engine work my
favorite shop is JLS Automotive in Hillsboro. My second choice, and a very
close second would be Gray's Automotive Machine in Tigard. For your drive
shaft work I would go to Six States out on Columbia Blvd. I have had every
conceivable shaft built and rebuilt by this shop and been very satisfied
with their work over the years.

Muel

PS:
Is it time for a Greater Portland/Vancouver and hinter lands, FTE/AFTE get
together yet?



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Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 07:56:10 -0500
From: Dan Herrmann in-motion.net>
Subject: Re: REPLACEMENT GRILLS

At 10:07 PM 4/10/00 -0400, you wrote:
>HI
>I have found a couple of grills for mine SO FAR but they have been between
>100.00 and 150.00 each BUT i figure there has GOTTA BE some cheaper yet
>SOMEWHERES
>are they 67/68/69 grills interchangeable
>gordon

=============================================================

Gordon, 100 - $150.00 may seem a little high for a used grille, but if they
are straight and dent free, then you may have a deal in the works. I have
found at least one good straight Steel grille in the U-pull-it salvage lot
and purchased it for $10, but that's hard to come by. Check all your junk
yards around, maybe you'll have some luck.... And YES, the 67-69' Grilles
are all interchangeable! You could also mount the 70-72' Grilles on your
truck but you would also have to change the Parking Light assemblies over
as well.

Dan Herrmann




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From: am14 daimlerchrysler.com
Subject: Piston ID
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 09:19:39 -0400

Rollie writes: >>I am in the process of replacing the number eight piston
on my 391 FT (428
cubic inches). I have the piston out and the only markings I have found are
the number 428 cast into the outside near the piston pin boss. I know it is
a
.040 oversize for a 428 engine because I contacted the builder. Just can't
find a brand or part number to go with when getting a new one.
I suppose a machine shop can match it up with one using the books they
have.
Where would be the best place to get an exact replacement?<<

Does Ford not carry them anymore?? From what you've said above(428 cast
near the wristpin) it is a Ford piston..should also have FOMOCO cast in the
opposite side of the wristpin.. I never knew you could get one .040"
oversized though. The 428 blocks I've always been associated with were
considered thinwall's and Ford did not recommend overbore for the
block...If it is oversized, then it should be stamped in the top of the
piston(ie .040 means it is .040 oversized) usually near the center. Clean
the top very carefully and see if you can locate any markings as I just
described...
Regardless, your local Automotive machine shop should be able to help you
locate a piston of the same weight and size and wristpin location..

Good luck.

Azie Magnusson
Ardmore, Al


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Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 06:45:39 -0700
From: "James A. Doty" home.com>
Subject: Re: Portland Machine shops.

Hi there:

I haven't been to any machine shops just yet, but I've got a good mechanic
in Vancouver. Andy's
Auto Repair on 4th. Plain near Falk is really good. I bring my van there
for anything I don't feel
I'm capable of handling myself. (Which is a lot of stuff actually.)

-> favorite mechanics

I think it would be great to have a Portland/Vancouver get-together!
What 'bout first weekend in May? Too soon probably. Just throwing out my
suggestion. Don't know where though.

James A. Doty
dotyj home.com


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From: "wish" ford-trucks.net>
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 13:55:44 GMT
Subject: World Ford Challenge



I know this is the same weekend as Pigeon Forge, so there probably aren't a
lot of you, but just talked to Dad last night and it turns out we're going.
Not goin to be racing, just roaming around lookin at the racing and the cars.


Anyone from here gonna be headin down ?



Just my $.02
wish

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73ish 1/2ton 4x4 6.4L
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From: SevnD2 aol.com
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 10:20:13 EDT
Subject: Re: Piston ID

In a message dated 04/11/2000 9:21:26 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
am14 daimlerchrysler.com writes:

<< From what you've said above(428 cast
near the wristpin) it is a Ford piston..should also have FOMOCO cast in the
opposite side of the wristpin..>>

It is not a Ford piston... no ford logo anywhere on it. I found the number
B174 inside it today. That is a badger piston number.


< considered thinwall's and Ford did not recommend overbore for the
block...>>

I agree. Could cause problems later. Except this may be a replacement block
offered by ford in the 70's. If it is then it is not the exact same block as
a 428. Ford offered the 391FT block as a replacement for the 428. A much
stronger block and was expected to be over bored. I know this block is a
391FT by the mirror image 105 cast into it on the drivers side front area. I
am not sure if it was an old block that had been worked over or if it is a
replacement purchased by somone. It went from Arkansas to Oklahoma in a
slightly used rebuild state back in the early 90's I am going to guess it
originally appeared as a complete engine in 1974 or 1975 (D4TE cast date).


< locate a piston of the same weight and size and wristpin location..
>>

I am headed there today.
I did give the parts stores a chance to help though and they failed
miserably. Got lots of head rubbing and frowns when I sat this piston on
their counters. They don't even have the images of the tops of the pistons
they do have.
I am going to call and talk to some managers later about the system they have
in these parts stores. They couldn't even find some stock Ford piston numbers
to match up with a replacement they sell. They are so clueless as to what
they need to do sometimes.

Thanks for the help.

Rollie H. Hunt
King, North Carolina

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From: "Matt Schu" hotmail.com>
Subject: FE oiling system
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 08:31:39 AKDT

FE Guys,

Anyone have any suggestions or tips on inproving the oiling system in a FE?
I am rebuilding my engine this month.

thanks

schu
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From: Marvin Meyer strat.net>
Subject: New Technology for our gas guzzler
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 10:29:33 -0400

Been reading posts daily, however I stumbled across somthing noticable,
most of us have 351's up to 460's in our trucks, I was at one time
considering a diesel installation after seeing one here in town. A 77 crew
cab with a perkins in it. The green machine was used to pull a 5th wheel
trailer every week end.

There is a company working with Ford, and Cummins(ISX engine). They are
converting the diesel to LNG(liqufied natural gas). They have been
successfull todate. They use diesel for the "pilot light" injecting it at
10% and then on the commpression stroke injecting the gas at 3500psi for a
mixture of 80%. The results exceeded thier expectations, more power, less
pollution and slight increase in economy. 9 US Patents have been granted,
their goal is same power and torque output and same reliability factor, yet
conversion at a reasonable cost. To date they are only at the test pilot
stage with a Kenworth and three bus's. I hope they make conversion kits for
older ones too this I like, new technology can be usefull for older
equiptment.
Marvin

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Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 13:38:05 -0400
From: George Selby ibox.net>
Subject: Gas tank plumbing

I have the bed off, and am redoing the gas lines and brake lines while
they are accessable easily. I turned the mail line into the tank around
90 degrees so where it has flattened over 20 years it can return to
round. The vent on top of the tank, however, is just plugged off 3
inches from the tank. Where is this vent supposed to go?

George
78 F-150 4x4 400 4 on floor


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From: "Southerland, Rich" alldata.com>
Subject: Re: Gas tank plumbing
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 10:54:56 -0700

Charcoal canister under the hood.

-----Original Message-----
From: George Selby [mailto:digimanibox.net]
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2000 10:38 AM
To: Ford Truck List
Subject: [61-79-list] Gas tank plumbing


I have the bed off, and am redoing the gas lines and brake lines while
they are accessable easily. I turned the mail line into the tank around
90 degrees so where it has flattened over 20 years it can return to
round. The vent on top of the tank, however, is just plugged off 3
inches from the tank. Where is this vent supposed to go?

George
78 F-150 4x4 400 4 on floor

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From: "wish" ford-trucks.net>
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 17:55:16 GMT
Subject: World of Wheels

The World of Wheels came through here last weekend and we were able to get a
few pics, thought some of you might find it interesting :

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://ranger3.cc.iastate.edu/Www2/Images/Wow/index.html

Enjoy

Just my $.02
wish

96 Mustang GT 5spd 4.6L
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Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 14:03:23 -0400
From: James Oxley thecore.com>
Subject: Re: 78 & 79 Emission systems

JJJJJGRANTaol.com wrote:
>
> i have two trucks that are about as original as you can find, one is a 78
> f100,swb,2wd
> 302, automatic, as far as emissions, it has an EGR valve under the carb, some
> type of box with vacuum lines running to it located below the battery, and a
> thing just before the muffler which i assume is a catylic converter, but it
> has no lines or hoses going to it. and no smog pump.
>
> the other truck is a 79 lwb, 2wd, 302 automatic, it has a full fledge
> emission control system, smog pump, catylic converter, thermactor, EGR valve,
> the box under the battery and a bunch of other stuff. everything still works,
> truck only shows 52,000 miles and i believe it is actual miles.
>
> i hope this will help clear up some of the questions about what came on 78-79
> trucks
>
>

It only clears up what came on vehicles under 6000 lb GVWR. In 78
anything over 6000 lb GVWR only had an EGR, thats it. In 79 anything
over 8550 GVWR had only an EGR, to my knowledge.

OX

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From: "wish" ford-trucks.net>
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 18:03:11 GMT
Subject: Re: Piston ID

>Except this may be a replacement block
>offered by ford in the 70's. If it is then it is not the exact same block as

>a 428. I
>am not sure if it was an old block that had been worked over or if it is a

>replacement purchased by somone. It went from Arkansas to Oklahoma in a
>slightly used rebuild state back in the early 90's I am going to guess it

>originally appeared as a complete engine in 1974 or 1975 (D4TE cast date).

>

That's probably a good guess, most replacment parts end in a Z rather than the
actual casting number, a replacement part would've been D4TZ ... at least that's
my weird understanding of it...

Just my $.02
wish

96 Mustang GT 5spd 4.6L
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From: "wish" ford-trucks.net>
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 18:09:35 GMT
Subject: Re: Gas tank plumbing

> The vent on top of the tank, however, is just plugged off 3
>inches from the tank. Where is this vent supposed to go?
>

There should be a couple of different vents on the 78, at least from what I've
read and seen. There should be one that leads out the same way as the filler
tube does, either in front or behind it and connected to the metal vent tube
on the filler neck.

There may also be another one that runs to a "vapor recovery" canister or whatever
they called that that year, anyway it runs up to the charcoal box thingy under
the battery ...a long ways to run, but that's how it was if I've got any of
my facts straight. If you don't have egr and the charcoal canister is gone
(yellow plastic?, maybe white as old as it is), then I'd just leave it plugged
so no fuel leaks out on a full tank.

Just my $.02
wish

96 Mustang GT 5spd 4.6L
73ish 1/2ton 4x4 6.4L
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Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 13:11:18 -0500
Subject: Re: World of Wheels
From: "John LaGrone" ford-trucks.com>

> The World of Wheels came through here last weekend and we were able to get a
> few pics, thought some of you might find it interesting :
>
> http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://ranger3.cc.iastate.edu/Www2/Images/Wow/index.html
>
> Enjoy
>
> Just my $.02
> wish

Thanks, Bill, I did enjoy.

-- John
jlagroneford-trucks.com <]:-) <]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)
1979 F150 Custom, Long Wide Bed, Regular Cab, 351M, C6 (Henry)
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Dearborn iron rules!!!!


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Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 17:16:54 -0400
From: Joe & Jen DeLaurentis p3.net>
Subject: Wires for large Dist Cap on FE

Group,
What type of spark plug wires can you use with the larger Ditributor cap

for the electronic ign. on a FE...I've looked at 1976 and they have the
elect. dist
but the small cap..I've tried autolites,no name brand, and
Napa....Everybodies
seems to come up with the small cap only???
Do i need to make my own?Like Ford MOtorsport Blues?
joe


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