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61-79-list Digest Fri, 31 Mar 2000 Volume: 2000 Issue: 056

In This Issue:
Re: "New" 1979 Crew Cab
Re: "New" 1979 Crew Cab
Re: Ford Swap Meet - (Large)
Re: "New" 1979 Crew Cab
Re: Anodizing strippers ?
"New" 1979 Crew Cab
ADMIN: CustomAuto
Re: Autos
Re: 77 F150 headers
Steering parts
Re: 400C Question: Was Windsor or Cleveland?
Re: 400C Question: Was Windsor or Cleveland?
FW: Camper Special
Re: The Muny Pit
Re: The Muny Pit
Re: [61-79-list]kingpin
Score!!!! New toy ends up being WAY too nice to part out!
Re: Score!!!! New toy ends up being WAY too nice to part

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From: "ServiceMark" rcn.com>
Subject: Re: "New" 1979 Crew Cab
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 23:53:15 -0500

You are a far braver man than I am to be driving ANYTHING through Alabama
with Jersey plates - illegal ones to boot!!!

"You ain't from 'round here boy, is ya?"

"Get the banjo, Floyd"
-----Original Message-----
From: FORDTRKNUT aol.com aol.com>
To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com <61-79-list ford-trucks.com>
Date: Friday, March 31, 2000 11:49 PM
Subject: [61-79-list] "New" 1979 Crew Cab


>Well....I just got back from New Orleans with my "New" 1979 F-350 Crew Cab
>2WD. I flew from Newark Airport in New Jersey to New Orleans Airport in
>Louisiana on Thusday. At $89.00 for the plane ticket...I had to buy the
>truck. I arrived at 2:10 (supposed to get in at 1:32...late like always)
in
>New Orleans. The guy (Thanks Dennis!!!) picked me up at the airport, and
we
>went to check the truck out. I am amazed how well the Southern trucks hold
>up. Theres a little rust were the camper sat on the top of the bed
>rails....but other than that it looks good. I liked what I saw, so we went
>to the Notary to switch the title into my name. I brought my licence plates
>with me, slapped them on and drove home (it is a "little" illegal, but I
did
>not get caught). I did not look forward to the drive...thats for sure. It
>was about 1,315 miles home, at least thats what my mapping program said. I
>guess I left from New Orleans at 4:00pm and stopped for a few hours top
sleep
>at 11:00pm in Gadsden, Alabama. I got back on the road at 6:30am and made
it
>home at 10:15pm.......THATS 15-3/4 HOURS of Driving in one shot!!! A grand
>total of 22-3/4 hours of driving. I cannot believe that I am still awake!!
>I guess Pepsi, Beef Jerky, and Tick-Tacs kept me going. The truck has a
>400M, 435 Transmission (2wd), and a Dana 70 rear with 3:73 gearing, & Dual
>Gas Tanks. I spent alot of cash on gas....did not get reciepts, but could
be
>close to $210.00. I did find out a few things on the trip (at least from
>what I saw): 1. "Down South" Every Pickup has dual exhaust with cherry
bombs
>or Flowmasters 2. Alabama is Chevy Country 3. Virginia is Ford Country
>4. I Speak Funny (at least thats what the people behind the gas pumps say)
>Haha!!! 5. Every state has a speed limit of 70 (except my state..Freakin
>New Jersey!!) "The First time I let off the gas was on root 81 into New
>Jersey". I will recover tonight and check out my new "Baby" tommorrow.
>Well....Thats My Story & I Am Sticking To It!!!! Wayne
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From: "Keith Kubiak" <55fordf100 home.com>
Subject: Re: "New" 1979 Crew Cab
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 21:24:42 -0800

Great Story! True FTE!!!!!!
----- Original Message -----
From: aol.com>
To: <61-79-list ford-trucks.com>
Sent: Friday, March 31, 2000 8:48 PM
Subject: [61-79-list] "New" 1979 Crew Cab


> Well....I just got back from New Orleans with my "New" 1979 F-350 Crew Cab
> 2WD. I flew from Newark Airport in New Jersey to New Orleans Airport in
> Louisiana on Thusday. At $89.00 for the plane ticket...I had to buy the
> truck. I arrived at 2:10 (supposed to get in at 1:32...late like always)
in
> New Orleans. The guy (Thanks Dennis!!!) picked me up at the airport, and
we
> went to check the truck out. I am amazed how well the Southern trucks
hold
> up. Theres a little rust were the camper sat on the top of the bed
> rails....but other than that it looks good. I liked what I saw, so we
went
> to the Notary to switch the title into my name. I brought my licence
plates
> with me, slapped them on and drove home (it is a "little" illegal, but I
did
> not get caught). I did not look forward to the drive...thats for sure.
It
> was about 1,315 miles home, at least thats what my mapping program said. I
> guess I left from New Orleans at 4:00pm and stopped for a few hours top
sleep
> at 11:00pm in Gadsden, Alabama. I got back on the road at 6:30am and made
it
> home at 10:15pm.......THATS 15-3/4 HOURS of Driving in one shot!!! A
grand
> total of 22-3/4 hours of driving. I cannot believe that I am still
awake!!
> I guess Pepsi, Beef Jerky, and Tick-Tacs kept me going. The truck has a
> 400M, 435 Transmission (2wd), and a Dana 70 rear with 3:73 gearing, & Dual
> Gas Tanks. I spent alot of cash on gas....did not get reciepts, but could
be
> close to $210.00. I did find out a few things on the trip (at least from
> what I saw): 1. "Down South" Every Pickup has dual exhaust with cherry
bombs
> or Flowmasters 2. Alabama is Chevy Country 3. Virginia is Ford
Country
> 4. I Speak Funny (at least thats what the people behind the gas pumps
say)
> Haha!!! 5. Every state has a speed limit of 70 (except my state..Freakin
> New Jersey!!) "The First time I let off the gas was on root 81 into New
> Jersey". I will recover tonight and check out my new "Baby" tommorrow.
> Well....Thats My Story & I Am Sticking To It!!!! Wayne
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> the words "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the subject of the
> message.
>


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From: "Tim and Pam Allgire" williams-net.com>
Subject: Re: Ford Swap Meet - (Large)
Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2000 00:47:08 -0500

Yes this swap meet is AWESOME!!!I have been there many times myself.I
usually end up buying something.
-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Herrmann in-motion.net>
To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com <61-79-list ford-trucks.com>
Date: Friday, March 31, 2000 8:09 AM
Subject: [61-79-list] Ford Swap Meet - (Large)


>
>Hey Folks!
>
> Just a quick reminder that this Saturday & Sunday is the Columbus Spring
>Swap in Columbus, Ohio. This ALL FORD Swap Meet & Car Coral is badged as
>one of the largest all Ford events in the country. I have attended this
>event for the last 4 years and I always walk away with a couple of arm
>loads of good Truck Parts.
>
>You can get all the details of the event at "WWW.SPRINGSWAP.COM"
>
>Hope to see you there!
>
>Dan Herrmann
>
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Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 21:56:57 +4100
From: "Kiernan, Denny" wenet.net>
Subject: Re: "New" 1979 Crew Cab

ServiceMark wrote:
>
> You are a far braver man than I am to be driving ANYTHING through Alabama
> with Jersey plates - illegal ones to boot!!!

Too early in the year for them to be feeling really mean. Wouldn't want
to try it in July.

FTE content: They dont put up with no truck.

Denny (Bawn in Tennessee).

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From: "Desanto, Phillip" Cinergy.com>
Subject: Re: Anodizing strippers ?
Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2000 01:00:07 -0500

いI'm planning on starting a resto on my truck. It is a 76 and
いhas the wide belt line moulding. I thought it was stainless. Is this
いstuff aluminum? Do need to strip the coating to polish it back up. It
does
いhave a milky haze to it.
いTom H
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Tom- that's the easiest way to do it. Trying to polish through the anodizing
is pretty tough. (it's a very hard coating ) Good luck, Phil


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Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 22:53:52 -0800
From: Tim Bowman uswest.net>
Subject: "New" 1979 Crew Cab

Wayne:

Congratulations on the purchase and the successful drive.

I just purchased a '99 SHO with 3,400 miles off ebay in Auburn, IN and
bought a 1 way ticket there; inspected it; paid for it; and drove it
home 2,400 miles to Seattle. Incredible car. Took 3 days.

--
Tim Bowman
Burien, WA
tkbowman uswest.net



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Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2000 04:33:39 -0500
From: Ken Payne ford-trucks.com>
Subject: ADMIN: CustomAuto

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Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2000 02:06:38 -0800
From: Jason Derra internetcds.com>
Subject: Re: Autos

> To an industry driven by cost per mile, 1/2
> mile per gallon multiplied by say 30 tractors will blow you out over a years
> time.
>
Yeah, so will 25-30 cents more per gallon for fuel. It's costing my company
almost $10K a day more to run with these fuel
prices. Jason






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From: Rubberducky23 webtv.net (Danny Ling)
Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2000 07:54:41 -0600 (CST)
Subject: Re: 77 F150 headers

have you tried Stans Headers? They have fit well on every 77 F series
Ive seen. they are the only headers avalible for 77 highboys I have ever
found. He has a couple different versions and will definatly ask if you
have 1 or 2 crossmembers that pass below the transmission. If I remember
correctly he will ask if your tranny is a manual or automatic. I ordered
mine with the extra heavy duty 3/8" flanges and they all come with a
pivoting ball mount at the collector that uses a donut instead of a
gasket. Mine are nickle plated too.

Laters, Danny Ling


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From: BDIJXS aol.com
Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2000 10:02:42 EST
Subject: Steering parts

Hey Robert,

As Kid Marino says, there is a real slick kit for the upper end of the
steering shaft, and since he's reasonably reliable, I'm pretty sure you'll
have some direction on that soon (couldn't resist, Kid!)...Anyway, the
"slider unit" at the steering box end might be trickier to find. I'm guess
that the best solution is going to be to replace it with another Ford piece,
but this time a "rag joint". I installed an integral box, similar to yours,
on my 69 F-100 4x4. I had to modify my steering shaft, and I bought a
ragjoint, I believe it was for a 76 F-100 4x4. The "rag" part on mine is
actually a flexible plastic and the whole thing is real beefy. I'm pretty
sure these are still available from Ford as I bought one there about 1-1/2
years ago.

Now, you may just have to hacksaw off the old one and have this one welded to
your steering shaft. Hopefully, you won't have to have the shaft lengthened
(a little hassle, but no big deal) for this fix. While you have the shaft
out, you might as well go ahead and do the U-joint (actually Ford has renamed
this the "marino joint".....I'm betting yours is shot.

Hope this helps a little!!!!!!!!!!

CJ (Colorado Jeff)



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Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2000 09:31:49 -0800 (PST)
From: Dan Lee yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: 400C Question: Was Windsor or Cleveland?

Rollie,

I am sorry if I mislead you. My 400C-4V is a 400 'M'
block with 351C-4V heads and flattop pistons. This
produces about 10.2:1 CR. It has plenty of low end
torque and revs like a Cleveland. Other mods are Cam,
Roller rockers, 750CFM Carter, Edelbrock intake,
Sanderson headers and a long list of other performance
equipment. If you are interested in doing somethig
like that check out Hot Rod Magazine, I think it was
July or Aug '98. There was an article on a 400 buildup
using 2V heads.

Dan Lee
'53 F100
400C-4V

>From: SevnD2 aol.com
>Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 12:23:26 EST
>Subject: 400C Question: Was Windsor or Cleveland?

>In a message dated 03/31/2000 11:38:58 AM Eastern
>Standard Time,danlee_58 yahoo.com writes:

><< Dan Lee
>'53 F100
>400C-4V >>

>Hey Dan !
>I have been wondering about your 400C. Is it your own
>design of a 351Cleveland or am I missing something?
>Just wondering what you did to get 400 cubic inches
in >a Cleveland block.

>Rollie H.
>King N.C.
>1976 F100 Explorer , 428 (391FT)
>1972 Gran Torino Sport, 351Cleveland 2V (under
>construction)



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Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2000 14:08:35 -0500
From: bill poudrier ma.ultranet.com>
Subject: Re: 400C Question: Was Windsor or Cleveland?

Just a couple of questions,

What did you use for pistons? Who made em and How much?
part numbers if you can. Which Edlebrock manifold Part #?
What year 4V heads? Sorry for all the questions but my
400 is still in a basket awaiting assembly. It will go into
a 1979 F150. I haven't had the heads done yet and was
considering Aussie 2V because I did not think there was
a manifold for the 4V - 400/351M combination. any help
appreciated. Thanks

Bill


At 09:31 AM 4/1/00 -0800, you wrote:
>Rollie,
>
>I am sorry if I mislead you. My 400C-4V is a 400 'M'
>block with 351C-4V heads and flattop pistons. This
>produces about 10.2:1 CR. It has plenty of low end
>torque and revs like a Cleveland. Other mods are Cam,
>Roller rockers, 750CFM Carter, Edelbrock intake,
>Sanderson headers and a long list of other performance
>equipment. If you are interested in doing somethig
>like that check out Hot Rod Magazine, I think it was
>July or Aug '98. There was an article on a 400 buildup
>using 2V heads.
>
>Dan Lee
>'53 F100
>400C-4V
>
>>From: SevnD2 aol.com
>>Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 12:23:26 EST
>>Subject: 400C Question: Was Windsor or Cleveland?
>



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From: "Gregory, Gerry" HDH.KARI.NET>
Subject: FW: Camper Special
Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2000 21:48:25 -0500


-----Original Message-----
From: Gregory, Gerry
Sent: March 31, 2000 12:21 PM
To: 'FORD LIST'
Subject: Camper Special


Hi All
I am also new to the list in that this is my first post.
I have a 1975 F250 Camper Special 390 (Casper). I need to replace the rad
mount and I have found one locally. Will the front fenders have to be
removed of loosened to take the rad mount off? Where can I find the rubber
mounts. I am also looking for interior parts-a steering wheel, and plastic
clips for the rear side opening windows.
I read the list each day and I appreciate the tips and ideas I find here.
cheers
gerry gregory
Kingston Ontario
gregoryg hdh.kari.net hdh.kari.net>

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Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2000 21:28:54 -0800
From: wicowboy gateway.net>
Subject: Re: The Muny Pit

JefriHansn aol.com wrote:
>
> As I told everyone the other day while unsubscribing under
> billybobjoehansen hotmail, I'm fixing to head out in the morning from Chicago
> here to South West Missouri, and back in a week, back there in two more, and
> then on to Chicago. Heading out to Menards tonight to get the fencing
> supplies I'm suspose to take with me - didn't make it. Altenator self
> destructed internally. It never ends. And I'm to drive thing thing 590
> miles tomarrow?????? Guess better tonight then on the interstate - BUT,,,
> what does tomarrow hold. Anybody in Chicago want to by an all new 79 F-150
> 4WD?? - It's all new 'cept the paint.
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More info please on the truck....I'm in Milwaukee, I may be interested.
Or If you want a spend some cash I'll give you a deal on transporting
the truck on one of my car haulers. Let me know if you are interested.
E-mail me off list if you are and I'll send you my phone number.

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From: "Jason & Kathy Kendrick" mddc.com>
Subject: Re: The Muny Pit
Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2000 21:54:34 -0600

I'm pretty sure the truck has a 429 and a NP435. I think it's got a 600 cfm
Holley carb, unless he's changed it in the last week.
Jason
===================================================================
>More info please on the truck....I'm in Milwaukee, I may be interested.
>Or If you want a spend some cash I'll give you a deal on transporting
>the truck on one of my car haulers. Let me know if you are interested.
>E-mail me off list if you are and I'll send you my phone number.



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From: "Jerry Splawn" tcac.net>
Subject: Re: [61-79-list]kingpin
Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2000 11:07:00 -0500

OK, I tried heating the area with a propane torch, it moved about an inch. I
heated the area for over an hour. Will the propane not get hot enough??? Do
I need a special torch tip or move to a hotter gas like MAPP ????

-----Original Message-----
From: 61-79-list-bounce ford-trucks.com
[mailto:61-79-list-bounce ford-trucks.com]On Behalf Of Ken Payne
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2000 7:36 AM
To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: [61-79-list] Re: [61-79-list]kingpin


At 11:46 AM 3/22/00 -0600, you wrote:
>I have a 1971 F-100. Any ideas on how to remove a stuck kingpin !!!!!! The
>sucker just will not come out!!
>Am I gonna have to remove the I-beam and drill the thing out?

Either

a) heat the area up with a torch, this will usually do the trick.
Get it as hot as you feel is safely possible. The kingpin
sleeve is either brass (very likely) or vinyl (not very likely
unless its been swapped recently). The different metals
expand at different rates and this will usually free it up.

b) remove the i-beam and have a machine shop with a hydraulic
press get it out

Drilling will take an eternity and pressing it out will only
run about 30 bucks, maybe less.

-Ken Payne

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Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2000 22:36:06 -0800
From: wicowboy gateway.net>
Subject: Score!!!! New toy ends up being WAY too nice to part out!

Just need to vent, had a great day, brought home a new toy........
Been noticing a '77 F-150 4x2 in someones backyard for a few years now
under some trees, hasn't moved in over 10 years. Stopped a few times
over the last few years but there was never any answer at the door. I
never paid too much attention to it because its been sitting so long I
figured it was completely trashed as wisconsin winters (salt) are hard
on these trucks. Well anyways finally I got an answer at the door. Old
man (original and only owner ever) tells me $500 and its mine. I
figured it probably wasn't worth half that. But I walk back there and
its MINT! NO RUST! I pounded on the rear wheel wells which are usually
the first to go around heere and they are completely solid. Bottom of
doors have a little rust though if you really look, frontend including
bumper and pusher type bumper guards are mint! Mint Grill and all.
Explorer hood ornament on hood and Explorer paint! So I figure WOW, i
want this for the body figuring the drivetrain is locked up solid.
Story is he put a bunch of money into it in 1987 for new brakes, tires,
and paint although there was no rust on it he says, and i believe it
because I couln't find a trace of bondo. Then the motor died and he
didn't want to put any more money into it. So the truck hasn't had a
finger on it in 13 years! I opened my wallet, had $200 in it and
offered it to him. He accepted and handed me the title! Original title
from 1977 with a stack of paper work including the original receipt from
the dealer and owners manual in perfect shape. So I run home and grab
one of my carhaulers. Got back to the truck and clipped a lot of the
brush back as not to scratch the perfect explorer paint job. Pop the
hood, 300 with lots of cobwebs, just for kicks grab the lower pulley
and try to spin. IT TURNED! I was like wow, motors not even locked up.
Then jacked all the tires up out of the mud with my floor jack and
filled them up with air. ALL THE TIRES TURNED! I was impressed, i
figured the brakes would all be locked up like many other trucks I have
boughten were. I was impressed! I was getting excited so I threw a
battery in it to see if the starter might pull it up onto the bed of the
truck so I didn't have to winch it up. IT DID! Hit the starter put it
in reverse and let out the clutch, creeped up the angled bed! I was
amazed at this point. Got it home figured mine as well try it, dumped
some gas into the tank and down the carb, the air filter even looked
brand new! Hit the key and it STARTED RIGHT UP! Died once the gas in
the carb was gone, repeated this 4 or 5 times. Pulled the fuel line off
carb, blew air with compressor back through line to maybe clean it out
because nothing was coming out when I cranked it. Still nothing.
Strung up a old radiator overflow tank to the hood which was up and ran
a line to the carb to let gravity do the fuel pumping.Ran great for 10
min until ran out of fuel. I even drove it around the yard a bit with
the hood up, I just had to. Although it had no brakes.
Ends up the Fuel pump was the culprit, probably why the truck was
parked so many years ago. Took five minutes to change that with an old
one I had. Ran without my aux tank! After some bleeding got the rear
brakes to work! Ran to the autoparts store and bought new front pads,
calipers, and rotors. Got home and threw them on although the old pads
and calipers looked like they had just came out of box from the parts
store too but i figured if i was putting new rotors on i'd better get
new pads too. Did the brake job, must say easiest brake job I have ever
done, took about an ghour plus bleeding! Everything actually came apart
with no set-backs, never happened to me before. Had to take it for a
test drive then, everything was going so great i would have driven it to
florida i was soo excited. Threw my plates from my other 77 F-150 on it
and drove it about 10 miles back to the original owners house, it was
now about 4 hours after I first left the guys yard with it. Got there
and he came out and was almost as excitied as I was. Drove it home then
as I didn't want to push my luck. It got real hot as I pulled into my
driveway but already figured out that the thermostat was not opening and
I hadn't driven far so it took alll the way back to my house to get
warm.
Got home and washed the truck and looked it over real well, heres some
more info on it, its a longbed Explorer, blue with the white explorer
stripes and badging, all four original mint shape Ford Motor Company
hubcaps. Odometer reads 17,xxx miles and judging by the mint condition
(although faded) of the seat and carpet and petals I would say it only
has 17K original miles on it! I will go verify this with the previous
owner tommorrow.
Anyhow, if anyone is still reading this, thank you, I just had to vent
and I figured some of you would be able to appreicate this truck as much
as I am and feel my excitement! I will try to get my digital camera
working tommorrwow and get some pics taken. I will post a link on the
list tommorrow if I get it working. Hope this isn't too long of a post,
it has some tips though to make it ligit like the aux tank,
etc....right? :)

WICoWbOy
'71 Super Duty Carhauler, 390, 4v, C-6
....


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