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61-79-list Digest Mon, 27 Mar 2000 Volume: 2000 Issue: 051

In This Issue:
Re: tire sizes
missing addresses
Re: Answers
Re: Clunk
Re: E-Brake Broke...
Re: Automatics, I say phooey on em!
Re: man vs auto
Re: man vs auto
Re: '67 F100 4x4 Front End
Re: man vs auto
Re: man vs auto II
Re: '67 F100 4x4 Front End
Re: man vs auto
Re: man vs auto
A great weekend (FTE content galore)
Re: Bed "light" rust removal
78 brake question
Re: Hey Y'all
Clutch
Re: 78 brake question
Re: man vs auto II
Re: 78 brake question
Re: man vs auto
Re: 78 brake question
low oil pressure
Re: man vs auto
Can I use Them??
Auto Vs. Manual
Re: man vs auto II
Re: missing addresses
ADMIN: Mail storage
Re: man vs auto II
y block build-up
Re: low oil pressure
Re: Man vs Auto
Auto Reliability
Re: Phooey on Autos, and Road trips
Re: Auto Reliability

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Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 21:02:14 -0600
Subject: Re: tire sizes
From: "John LaGrone" ford-trucks.com>

> The truck originally came with G78 x 15 D tubeless tires. I need someone
> to convert this
> tire size to a modern size. I am guessing a 235x15x75 is a close match but
> I need to know specifics
> before I walk into my tire shop and plunk down my cash.

Stu,

From memory,
E78 = 8.00 = P185
F78 = 8.25 = P195
G78 = 8.45 = P205
H78 = 8.65 = P215
J78 = 8.85 = P225
L78 = 9.00 = P235

L's may have been 9.15. there was no I and no K that I remember. I believe
the P-metrics are smaller in diameter than their English equivalents. Maybe
this will jog some memories better than mine.

In truth there is no exact translation to modern tire sizes as they went to
even metric measures and English measures don't translate to metrics evenly.
Also most tires today have a 75 profile instead of a 78.

-- John
jlagrone ford-trucks.com <]:-) <]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)
1979 F150 Custom, Long Wide Bed, Regular Cab, 351M, C6 (Henry)
http://www.ford-trucks.com/jlagrone/henry.home.htm
Dearborn iron rules!!!!

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From: A61fordtruck aol.com
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 09:19:10 EST
Subject: missing addresses

Help!!! I had a computer crash yesterday and lost all my addresses and past
correspondense!! I am parting out a 64 and a 69 truck and had several orders
for parts from some of you. please RE if thats you, or if you need something
for beforementioned trucks. thanks!

Greg Schnakenberg

61 stepside (going back together)
61 unibody ('59 352, in mothballs)
65 custom cab (still without a 460)

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Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 11:16:45 -0600
Subject: Re: Answers
From: "John LaGrone" ford-trucks.com>

> So to achieve the same idle speed you have to close
> the throttle butterflies more, placing the tips closer to the idle
> circuit discharge ports as the carb was designed.
> Brett
> Super75cab

I'm still catching up on my mail, I apologize if this has been covered.

Brett is right, the throttle butterflies have to be closed all of the way
for the idle mixture screws to work. You might also check the gasket under
the carb. If it isn't sealing, the engine will suck air and the carb can not
be adjusted properly. I have seen the the center part of the gasket blown
out letting the two banks interfere with each other but not allowing outside
air in do the same thing. At idle you shouldn't be able to tell the
difference between a 650 or a 750 or a 900 cfm carb.

-- John
jlagrone ford-trucks.com <]:-) <]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)
1979 F150 Custom, Long Wide Bed, Regular Cab, 351M, C6 (Henry)
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Dearborn iron rules!!!!


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Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 11:23:51 -0600
Subject: Re: Clunk
From: "John LaGrone" ford-trucks.com>

> My first thought was that the transmission might not be shifting
> into 1st when stopping, then shifts suddenly into 1st when I start
> to take off. This is what it feels like it is doing. Is that
> possible?

Mark,

That is not only possible, but likely. A lot of Ford autos idle in 3rd and
do not downshift to1st until the vacuum modulator senses the change in
vacuum when you apply the throttle.

Another possibility is that someone over the years has habitually shifted
into drive after backing up to turn around without using the brake to bring
the truck to a complete stop. This will eventually cause wear on the
transmission and the ring gear. My dad was famous for this maneuver

-- John
jlagrone ford-trucks.com <]:-) <]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)
1979 F150 Custom, Long Wide Bed, Regular Cab, 351M, C6 (Henry)
http://www.ford-trucks.com/jlagrone/henry.home.htm
Dearborn iron rules!!!!

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Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 11:51:06 -0600
Subject: Re: E-Brake Broke...
From: "John LaGrone" ford-trucks.com>

> So where do I go next? Obviously inside
> the drums, but I don't really wanna do this (the idea of pulling a Dana 60
> apart frightens me.) Is there a simpler solution I'm overlooking, or have I
> covered all the "normal" bases? Any help would be appreciated. Tanks.
>
> Tim Neasham
> '69 F-250 Camper Special
> Benton City, Wa

Tim,
Did you look under the dash where the cable hooks to the pedal? There is a
lead sinker type thing on the end of the cable. When they get old, they come
off or sometimes the cable breaks there. Good luck.

-- John
jlagrone ford-trucks.com <]:-) <]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)
1979 F150 Custom, Long Wide Bed, Regular Cab, 351M, C6 (Henry)
http://www.ford-trucks.com/jlagrone/henry.home.htm
Dearborn iron rules!!!!


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Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 11:59:59 -0600
Subject: Re: Automatics, I say phooey on em!
From: "John LaGrone" ford-trucks.com>

> Any advice you can give, Id love to here it.
>
> Darrell Duggan
> 74 F-350 "Tweety"

I just hope you and Tweety don't need to shift about the same time you are
hitting the ground from a flyby. :-)

-- John
jlagrone ford-trucks.com <]:-) <]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)
1979 F150 Custom, Long Wide Bed, Regular Cab, 351M, C6 (Henry)
http://www.ford-trucks.com/jlagrone/henry.home.htm
Dearborn iron rules!!!!


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Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 10:54:17 -0800
From: Jason Derra internetcds.com>
Subject: Re: man vs auto

I don't know about that. For a light truck anyways. I've been looking
at buying a newer Ford F250/350(94 on, 460 5 speed, I really want
another Powerstroke, but they are spendy around here) and all of the
dealers and private parties I've looked at are automatic equipped. Most
of the time the reason for selling or trading, "They wanted a 5 or 6
speed." I lived in Phoenix, AZ for a few years so I understand the
traffic thing, but I never have had a problem in heavy traffic with my
manuals. I usually just put it in granny and idle. Usually about the
time I get up there, the traffic is ready to move another 20 feet
(maybe, :) ) My clutches usually last between 120K and 200K miles.
I've replaced numerous heat destroyed automatics because of heavy stop
and go traffic. IMO, I'd much rather replace a $200 clutch than a $500-
$2000 transmission (granted C6's are probably the strongest autos out
there and can be cheaper than that).
Maybe I'll change my mind in a few years when I'm old and getting lazy.
hehehe
'69 Bronco 435 4 speed
'77 F150 4 speed
'76 F100 3 speed (manual, of course)
Jason



> Ken Payne wrote:
> See how long a clutch lasts in Atlanta traffic. Stop and
> go for 15 miles for an hour+ each way. Any one who has
> to deal with hundreds of gear changes each day welcomes
> an automatic. Sales of manual transmissions are at their
> lowest point in history for good reasons.
>
> Also, watch the implied language, it decreases your
> credibility.
>
> Ken Payne
>
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Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 13:09:41 -0600
Subject: Re: man vs auto
From: "John LaGrone" ford-trucks.com>

> I really want
> another Powerstroke, but they are spendy around here) and all of the
> dealers and private parties I've looked at are automatic equipped. Most
> of the time the reason for selling or trading, "They wanted a 5 or 6
> speed."

This thread could be immortal.

I love an automatic. Being able to control the shifts by working the gas
pedal is quite an art. Besides, SWMBO won't drive a manual and she needs to
be able to drive anything we own.

My brother has a Powerstroke 4x4 crew cab with either a 5 or 6 speed that he
pulls his travel trailer with. I can see having a manual behind a Diesel.
Manuals work real well until you need to use the floor dimmer while the
clutch is depressed or you need to hold the brake and the gas and the clutch
because you got a bad tank of gas and the engine keeps dying. Then there are
the yoyos who kill it at every stop light or roll back into your grille.
Manuals have to outperform autos when you need a lot of gears close
together. Can you imagine a KW with an 18 speed auto?

Actually, I can see having a manual period. Trust me on this one: no one is
going to change any one's mind on this subject.

-- John
jlagrone ford-trucks.com <]:-) <]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)
1979 F150 Custom, Long Wide Bed, Regular Cab, 351M, C6 (Henry)
http://www.ford-trucks.com/jlagrone/henry.home.htm
Dearborn iron rules!!!!

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From: "Ross Johansson" alaska.net>
Subject: Re: '67 F100 4x4 Front End
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 10:36:02 -0900

Can anyone here help me identify my front end differential??

This is what the tag on my front end reads:

C7TA-AH

607906-1 3 54
(this is what the second line looks like, but it was difficult to read



Very Much Thank You,



Ross
Anchorage, Alaska
1967 F100 4x4
352



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Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 12:04:27 -0800
From: Jason Derra internetcds.com>
Subject: Re: man vs auto

Thats funny John. After teaching my wife how to drive a manual (bad idea) she
wouldn't have it any other way. She drives everything I own including my 2 1/2
ton Clark 5 speed equipped service truck.
I like being able to shift when I want to shift, not when my transmission wants
to. If I needed to dim the lights I would pop it in neutral and switch it. Not
a big deal in my book.
If you had a bad tank of fuel with an auto you'd still probably need 2 feet to
keep it running. Your key word was yoyo. I admit there are some people that
should not be driving period, let alone a manual transmission.
BTW, I couldn't imagine a KW or a Pete with an automatic, period.

I totally agree that you're not going to sway anyone either way. But, if
everyone had the same ideas and thoughts, this world would be pretty boring.
Jason

John LaGrone wrote:

> > I really want
> > another Powerstroke, but they are spendy around here) and all of the
> > dealers and private parties I've looked at are automatic equipped. Most
> > of the time the reason for selling or trading, "They wanted a 5 or 6
> > speed."
>
> This thread could be immortal.
>
> I love an automatic. Being able to control the shifts by working the gas
> pedal is quite an art. Besides, SWMBO won't drive a manual and she needs to
> be able to drive anything we own.
>
> My brother has a Powerstroke 4x4 crew cab with either a 5 or 6 speed that he
> pulls his travel trailer with. I can see having a manual behind a Diesel.
> Manuals work real well until you need to use the floor dimmer while the
> clutch is depressed or you need to hold the brake and the gas and the clutch
> because you got a bad tank of gas and the engine keeps dying. Then there are
> the yoyos who kill it at every stop light or roll back into your grille.
> Manuals have to outperform autos when you need a lot of gears close
> together. Can you imagine a KW with an 18 speed auto?
>
> Actually, I can see having a manual period. Trust me on this one: no one is
> going to change any one's mind on this subject.
>
> -- John
> jlagrone ford-trucks.com <]:-) <]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)
> 1979 F150 Custom, Long Wide Bed, Regular Cab, 351M, C6 (Henry)
> http://www.ford-trucks.com/jlagrone/henry.home.htm
> Dearborn iron rules!!!!
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Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 12:23:12 -0800 (PST)
From: "D. DiMartino" yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: man vs auto II



> that's what defines them as such and not cars. just my
> opinion...

not to mention no true sports car has an automatic. show me a
1968 Ferrari GTO that came with an auto and i might change my
mind, but not likely.

=====
Daniel DiMartino
yahoo.com>
1968 F-250 soon to be a 4x4

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From: nukegm ford-trucks.com
Subject: Re: '67 F100 4x4 Front End
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 12:31:33 -0800



--- Original Message ---
"Ross Johansson" alaska.net> Wrote on
Mon, 27 Mar 2000 10:36:02 -0900
------------------
Can anyone here help me identify my front end differential??

Ross,

It should be a Dana 44 axle with a 3.54 gear based on what the
tag says.
Your rear axle should be a 3.50.

Stu
Nuke GM!
http://www.ford-trucks.com/~nukegm


This is what the tag on my front end reads:

C7TA-AH

607906-1 3 54
(this is what the second line looks like, but it was difficult
to read



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Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 14:35:49 -0600
Subject: Re: man vs auto
From: "John LaGrone" ford-trucks.com>

> After teaching my wife how to drive a manual (bad idea) she
> wouldn't have it any other way. She drives everything I own including my 2
1/2
> ton Clark 5 speed equipped service truck.

Jason,

I taught SWMBO how to drive a manual, but she was too stubborn (her words,
not mine) to change. She just didn't see the point in having a manual and I
didn't see the point in trying to persuade her. I have a medical problem
that holds the potential for total disaster should I become incapacitated
somewhere remote in a car/truck she couldn't drive in a panic situation. She
is right and I agree with her....

>Your key word was yoyo. I admit there are some people that
>should not be driving period, let alone a manual transmission.

Well, hey, I didn't think that far down the road, but I'll sure agree with
that one.

-- John
jlagrone ford-trucks.com <]:-) <]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)
1979 F150 Custom, Long Wide Bed, Regular Cab, 351M, C6 (Henry)
http://www.ford-trucks.com/jlagrone/henry.home.htm
Dearborn iron rules!!!!


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From: "Moore, Jimmy" ZymeTx.com>
Subject: Re: man vs auto
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 14:48:29 -0600

One thing I hate about my automatic is when I slow down and make a right
hand turn, the stupid thing stays in second gear, instead of going to first,
and it slugs around at 5 mph. I have to actually shift it on down to first
to be able to go anywhere.

my .06 cents

Jim Moore
1964 Ford F-100 292
1981 Ford F-150 300 Six
Oklahoma City, OK


-----Original Message-----
From: Jason Derra [mailto:derrar internetcds.com]
Sent: Monday, March 27, 2000 2:04 PM
To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: [61-79-list] Re: man vs auto


Thats funny John. After teaching my wife how to drive a manual (bad idea)
she
wouldn't have it any other way. She drives everything I own including my 2
1/2
ton Clark 5 speed equipped service truck.
I like being able to shift when I want to shift, not when my transmission
wants
to. If I needed to dim the lights I would pop it in neutral and switch it.
Not
a big deal in my book.
If you had a bad tank of fuel with an auto you'd still probably need 2 feet
to
keep it running. Your key word was yoyo. I admit there are some people that
should not be driving period, let alone a manual transmission.
BTW, I couldn't imagine a KW or a Pete with an automatic, period.

I totally agree that you're not going to sway anyone either way. But, if
everyone had the same ideas and thoughts, this world would be pretty boring.
Jason

John LaGrone wrote:

> > I really want
> > another Powerstroke, but they are spendy around here) and all of the
> > dealers and private parties I've looked at are automatic equipped. Most
> > of the time the reason for selling or trading, "They wanted a 5 or 6
> > speed."
>
> This thread could be immortal.
>
> I love an automatic. Being able to control the shifts by working the gas
> pedal is quite an art. Besides, SWMBO won't drive a manual and she needs
to
> be able to drive anything we own.
>
> My brother has a Powerstroke 4x4 crew cab with either a 5 or 6 speed that
he
> pulls his travel trailer with. I can see having a manual behind a Diesel.
> Manuals work real well until you need to use the floor dimmer while the
> clutch is depressed or you need to hold the brake and the gas and the
clutch
> because you got a bad tank of gas and the engine keeps dying. Then there
are
> the yoyos who kill it at every stop light or roll back into your grille.
> Manuals have to outperform autos when you need a lot of gears close
> together. Can you imagine a KW with an 18 speed auto?
>
> Actually, I can see having a manual period. Trust me on this one: no one
is
> going to change any one's mind on this subject.
>
> -- John
> jlagrone ford-trucks.com <]:-) <]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)
> 1979 F150 Custom, Long Wide Bed, Regular Cab, 351M, C6 (Henry)
> http://www.ford-trucks.com/jlagrone/henry.home.htm
> Dearborn iron rules!!!!
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From: "wish" ford-trucks.net>
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 21:13:46 GMT
Subject: A great weekend (FTE content galore)

Well there's been a lot of talk about FTE content on the 61-79 list, so I thought
I'd be sure and include some here.

Some of you caught my post on autocrossing last weekend in the rain/snow. But
we got much luckier this weekend ... and the FTE content ? Dad let me drive
his bone stock 53K mile 93 Lightning in the event! I've never driven it nearly
this hard before and I was amazed at how well it handled (for a truck). Its
not quite up to runnin with the Stang's on street tires, but man it was powerful
and fast! The auto took some getting used to (I realized I've only competitvely
run one other auto and several manuals), but it was a ball.

The full story is at http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/Racing/Bill1.html

There are even a couple of MPG's on there showing the Lightning, including a
big powerslide finish on the first one.

hehehe...I'm still smilin and its been nearly 24hours ...


Just my $.02
wish

96 Mustang GT 5spd 4.6L
73ish 1/2ton 4x4 6.4L
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From: "Desanto, Phillip" Cinergy.com>
Subject: Re: Bed "light" rust removal
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 16:15:54 -0500

¤¤From: "Doris Bridgeman"
¤¤Subject: EASY WAY TO REMOVE RUST FROM BED??
¤¤I am working on the inside of my 64 F-100 bed and sandblasting
¤¤the rust off. Yes I am taking it down to the bare metal.>>>>
===============================================
Doris- you're on the right track. That's about the only way to get all those
little scratches clean, if they're very bad. Repair any small dents that you
don't want to show and be sure to use a good "self-etching" primer as a base
for your spray in lining. Wear a good respirator if you do this yourself,
that stuff is nasty. I'm doing this very thing on my 64 right now.
Good luck, Phil juno.com>












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From: "Sean O'Malley" voyager2.cns.ohiou.edu>
Subject: 78 brake question
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 100 17:16:00 -0500 (EST)

Hope this isn't too basic a question...

The power brakes on my '78 recently developed an additional inch
or so of pedal travel and seem a bit grabby at low speeds. The
e-brake also now travels quite a bit farther than it used to
before engaging. This seemed to come out of the blue--no gradual
increase in travel. Just one day, it's there.

There's no mushiness to the pedal, though the brakes now seem
to require marginally more pressure to slow the truck.

This sound familiar to anyone? Or is it just normal wear?

--sean
78 F150 4x4
300 4 sp


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From: JUMPINFORD aol.com
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 17:17:25 EST
Subject: Re: Hey Y'all

Yup, I would had real fun pickin on ya too. Welcome to the list, and dont be
afraid to ask dumb questions, cuz dumb mistakes are even worse. And folks,
we need to be sure and help her out anyway we can, she belongs to a MOP*R
family, and we dont need her sellin that truck to get a DOD*E. Nuff Said.

Darrell & Tweety

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From: "barberpr" gateway.net>
Subject: Clutch
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 17:20:14 -0600

Hey All! I have a 73 F-100 with the 302 and a HD 4-speed (Granny Low) It
has 140,000 of Arkansas back roads on it and it still has the original
clutch with no sign of going bad. The A/T are nice in a lot of traffic
though. But in the parts of Arkansas where Dad lived traffic was not a
problem! Love the list-always some nice tips.
Regards,
Phil Barber

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From: "Rob Long" bigfoot.com>
Subject: Re: 78 brake question
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 17:45:15 -0500

Sean,
I think a good way to maybe find out what is wrong with your brakes is to
take the rear drums off and check everything back there... brake shoes,
springs, cables, boots, self-adjuster.


Rob


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Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 17:43:07 -0500
From: j arnold ford-trucks.com>
Subject: Re: man vs auto II

>not to mention no true sports car has an automatic. show me a
>1968 Ferrari GTO that came with an auto and i might change my
>mind, but not likely.
>
>=====
>Daniel DiMartino
> yahoo.com>
>1968 F-250 soon to be a 4x4
>

How about a '70 Hemi Cuda? Could get it either way.

stoney


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From: canzus seanet.com
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 15:35:22 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: 78 brake question

At 05:16 PM 27:03:2000 -0500, you wrote:
>Hope this isn't too basic a question...
>
>The power brakes on my '78 recently developed an additional inch
>or so of pedal travel and seem a bit grabby at low speeds. The
>e-brake also now travels quite a bit farther than it used to
>before engaging. This seemed to come out of the blue--no gradual
>increase in travel. Just one day, it's there.
>
>There's no mushiness to the pedal, though the brakes now seem
>to require marginally more pressure to slow the truck.
>
>This sound familiar to anyone? Or is it just normal wear?

If the fronts are locking up easily check for
a blown rear wheel cylinder, I had the same
problems to deal with in mom's wagon....it's
a C-word, but the symptoms the same.....

Steve & the Rockette
68 F100, 390cid, FMX
63 F100, 292cid, 3speed
72 Capri 2000, hers
73 Capri 2600,tube frame going in.....
73 MGB GT, Our Toy
94 SHO, SWMBO's
98 Contour SVT, Mine, Mine, All Mine....


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From: canzus seanet.com
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 15:35:23 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: man vs auto

At 01:09 PM 27:03:2000 -0600, you wrote:

>This thread could be immortal.

Truer words have rarely been spoken...

>I love an automatic. Being able to control the shifts by working the gas
>pedal is quite an art. Besides, SWMBO won't drive a manual and she needs to
>be able to drive anything we own.

The SWMBO and I have an agreement, If she wants to drive my
cars and trucks, she gets to pay for any damage, If I want to drive
any of her cars and trucks, I get to fix any damage. Simple, right?

> Can you imagine a KW with an 18 speed auto?

Actually, yes. The plumbing company I used to work for had
an over the road truck with an Allison 4 speed automatic with
a 2 speed splitter and 2 speed rear end, Thats 16 forward gears
and 2 reverse gears. granted it was only a Cat 3208, but it needed
all those gears to get around the Great Northwest, hauling 3,000
gallons of... septic waste... is the nice way to put it....

>Actually, I can see having a manual period. Trust me on this one: no one is
>going to change any one's mind on this subject.

We're not trying to change your mind, we're just giving you
our point of view, I'm a fan of "row your own" gears, but I'm not
telling you what you should drive, you wouldn't listen anyway....

Steve & the Rockette
68 F100, 390cid, FMX
63 F100, 292cid, 3speed
72 Capri 2000, hers
73 Capri 2600,tube frame going in.....
73 MGB GT, Our Toy
94 SHO, SWMBO's
98 Contour SVT, Mine, Mine, All Mine....


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From: "Southerland, Rich" alldata.com>
Subject: Re: 78 brake question
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 15:37:09 -0800

I'd suspect a leaky rear wheel cylinder as well. Brake fluid on the shoe
will make 'em "grab"...

At 05:16 PM 27:03:2000 -0500, you wrote:
>Hope this isn't too basic a question...
>
>The power brakes on my '78 recently developed an additional inch
>or so of pedal travel and seem a bit grabby at low speeds. The
>e-brake also now travels quite a bit farther than it used to
>before engaging. This seemed to come out of the blue--no gradual
>increase in travel. Just one day, it's there.
>
>There's no mushiness to the pedal, though the brakes now seem
>to require marginally more pressure to slow the truck.
>
>This sound familiar to anyone? Or is it just normal wear?

If the fronts are locking up easily check for
a blown rear wheel cylinder, I had the same
problems to deal with in mom's wagon....it's
a C-word, but the symptoms the same.....


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From: "ROCH FRAPPIER" attcanada.net>
Subject: low oil pressure
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 19:21:16 -0800

When I start up the engine on my 77 f100 (400 engine) the oil pressure gage
reads about half. By the time the motor heats up the pressure has dropped
as low as the gage will go and stays there while I'm driving. Should I be
worried and what can I do besides bring it to my mechanic???

ROCKY



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From: JUMPINFORD aol.com
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 19:28:39 EST
Subject: Re: man vs auto

In a message dated 3/27/00 3:36:34 PM Pacific Standard Time,
canzus seanet.com writes:

<< Actually, yes. The plumbing company I used to work for had
an over the road truck with an Allison 4 speed automatic with
a 2 speed splitter and 2 speed rear end, Thats 16 forward gears
and 2 reverse gears. granted it was only a Cat 3208, but it needed
all those gears to get around the Great Northwest, hauling 3,000
gallons of... septic waste... is the nice way to put it.... >>

Must be nice! When I was haulin that, uh, stuff, I did it in a 73 F-600 With
a 331 industrial and a 4 speed with spilt rear. Course I had fun ion the ole
Hunny Wagon. Even raced a Mack Cement truck once. We were both sittin at a
red, and he was revvin his to get his turbo to spool, so I revved mine, then
we started that "staging" routine, then on the green were were both off like
Rabbits, albeit limp, 2 legged rabbits. I used all 8 gears, I dont have any
idea how many he had, but we were both liftin fenders from torque shifts.
Man it was fun, I even edged him by the next light. Course were were only
doing a whopping 45 by then. I tell ya, turtle races rule.

Darrell Duggan
74 F-350 "Tweety"

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From: "Bob" mpinet.net>
Subject: Can I use Them??
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 19:46:11 -0800

Fellow listers, I have a '78 F150 SuperCab with a lot of worn out parts and
stumbled across a '84 F150 SuperCab with a bad motor. My questions are can
I use the rear end and front I-beam assys? The '84 has had the entire front
end recently rebuilt recently, and mine is in serious need of repair. The
rear end in the '84 is in excellent shape and mine is really worn out, bent
axels, bad seals, bad pinion, etc, etc, etc. Also the power steering in my
'78 is leaking badly, can I change with the '84? If nothing else I plan to
keep the 5.0 & what ever transmission, with all electronics, to use in my
'52 f1. For the price, around $100 I figure I can't go too wrong even if
the motor is bad as I will be rebuilding it anyway. Any info will be
greatly appriciated
Thanks

Bob


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Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 17:25:50 -0800 (PST)
From: "J. Allison" yahoo.com>
Subject: Auto Vs. Manual

> >That is a bunch of *%&^!!
snip-
> >if you can drive them they last forever, and no
> rebuilds either!-Adam
snip-

> See how long a clutch lasts in Atlanta traffic. Stop
>and go for 15 miles for an hour+ each way. Any one
who
>has to deal with hundreds of gear changes each day
>welcomes an automatic. Sales of manual transmissions
>are at their lowest point in history for good
reasons.
>Also, watch the implied language, it decreases your
>credibility. Ken Payne

Yeah... Give it to him Ken! I swear by automatics and
probably wouldn't ever get one for daily driving.
They're great for 4X4ing and for really heavy towing
but auto's dominate for day to day. And if you have
one that keeps falling apart then I'd suggest the
tranny guy you use is worthless. Ditch him and find a
good one. But then again I work on my own trannies and
this is of course all IMHO. Very HO :) Naturally, to
each his own. Drive what you like with the trans you
like and keep on driving that Ford truck! Woo-Haw!
Hoping to be at Pigeon Forge... J. Allison


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Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 20:59:45 -0500
From: Ken Payne ford-trucks.com>
Subject: Re: man vs auto II


>
>not to mention no true sports car has an automatic. show me a
>1968 Ferrari GTO that came with an auto and i might change my
>mind, but not likely.

A Ferrari doesn't pull boats and have a bed.

Ken



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From: WEDIVE247aol.com
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 21:07:18 EST
Subject: Re: missing addresses

In a message dated 3/27/2000 9:20:12 AM EST, A61fordtruckaol.com writes:

<< parting out a 64 >>

What type of 64 parts do you have . ??

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Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 21:23:28 -0500
From: Ken Payne ford-trucks.com>
Subject: ADMIN: Mail storage

Many of the people with ford-trucks.com or ford-trucks.net accounts
are either not checking their mail or in the case of ".com" addresses,
not having their mail software delete the messages after retrieval.

This situation is getting out of control, with half the mail queue
space being taken up by mail 3-9 weeks old. This weekend, I will be
installing software that will delete all mail over 3 weeks old. FTE
is not meant for online storage of mail.


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From: "Ted and Sarah Freeman" ford-trucks.com>
Subject: Re: man vs auto II
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 22:58:35 -0500

I've gotta admit...I like backing a trailer with an automatic much better
than I do with a stick. Especially with a heavy trailer.

-Ted
-----Original Message-----
From: Ken Payne ford-trucks.com>
To: 61-79-listford-trucks.com <61-79-listford-trucks.com>
Date: Monday, March 27, 2000 8:58 PM
Subject: [61-79-list] Re: man vs auto II


>
>>
>>not to mention no true sports car has an automatic. show me a
>>1968 Ferrari GTO that came with an auto and i might change my
>>mind, but not likely.
>
>A Ferrari doesn't pull boats and have a bed.
>
>Ken
>
>
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From: A61fordtruckaol.com
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 23:53:25 EST
Subject: y block build-up

hey everybody,

did anybody save the y block buildup articles that street rodder mag. did
last year? they did a year-long series on the y block engine, and i am
missing about half of them. if anybody can help me, i'd really appreciate
it.

Greg Schnakenberg
61 stepside (going back together soon)
61 unibody ( in mothballs)
65 custom cab (looking for either a new home or a 460)

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From: "Tim and Pam Allgire" williams-net.com>
Subject: Re: low oil pressure
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 00:12:37 -0500

Sounds like the motor is pretty loose inside.Sounds like a rebuild is
needed or find a motor with less miles that has been taken care of.
-----Original Message-----
From: ROCH FRAPPIER attcanada.net>
To: 61-79-listford-trucks.com <61-79-listford-trucks.com>
Date: Monday, March 27, 2000 7:17 PM
Subject: [61-79-list] low oil pressure


>When I start up the engine on my 77 f100 (400 engine) the oil pressure gage
>reads about half. By the time the motor heats up the pressure has dropped
>as low as the gage will go and stays there while I'm driving. Should I be
>worried and what can I do besides bring it to my mechanic???
>
>ROCKY
>
>
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Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 21:24:11 -0800
From: CLAUDE JONES phonewave.net>
Subject: Re: Man vs Auto

Speaking about clutches, I just finished replacing mine yesterday, 7
1/2 years and 48,000 miles later! only because on inspection found that
the springs on the clutch plate were as loose as a goose, plus the
throwout was shot! oozing grease! I think I just got a bad one. I've
had clutches last over 100k before, so I feel it's all in how the person
treats thier rigs. :o)
As far as auto's go, there great for what they were designed for!
Cars, grandma's and one legged sailors! Oh let us not forget the new
breed? cell phones users in heavy traffic! haha! Just Kidding!!!!
They have there good points just like the manuals do! I just can't
think of one! haha! Let the bullets fly..... :o)

C J (the other one)
66 F250, CC/CS
352/NP435
Fallon


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From: "Carver" ncwebsurfer.com>
Subject: Auto Reliability
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 20:41:45 -0800

Though I personally prefer manual transmission,
it's hard to argue with the history of the Ford-O-Matic
that's in my '64 F100 CrewCab, remember a half ton truck
with an added cab's weight also.

It carried a 3/4 ton camper for many years, drove all
over the Rockies and southwest, and during that time
(1) one, quart of fluid was added. About 20 years into
it's life, dad got really angry that it cost him $200
to have it rebuilt, at 175,000 miles. What did he expect,
it to last forever! Yeah.

The worst thing for it is to sit, the seals get hard, and
it will leak, just sitting there. Gotta drive it.

Jeff '64 F100 CrewCab



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Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 21:27:19 -0800 (PST)
From: Art Verling excite.com>
Subject: Re: Phooey on Autos, and Road trips

Darrell,
I am thinking of visiting LV in the near future. There is a communications
show; I will let you know the plans. Until a couple of years ago I was
flying to LV once a month. I worked at B of A as a data system engineer.
See Ya,
Art
art.verlingexcite.com





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Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 22:07:39 -0700
From: "Kiernan, Denny" wenet.net>
Subject: Re: Auto Reliability

Carver wrote:
>
> Though I personally prefer manual transmission,
> it's hard to argue with the history of the Ford-O-Matic
> that's in my '64 F100 CrewCab, remember a half ton truck
> with an added cab's weight also.
>
> It carried a 3/4 ton camper for many years, drove all
> over the Rockies and southwest, and during that time
> (1) one, quart of fluid was added.

I'm confused here. How can you put a 3/4 ton camper on a 1/2 ton truck.
That totals up to 1/4 ton over the maximum gross vehicle weight, doesn't
it?

I need to know about this bcause I plan to put a camper of some kind on
the back of my F-100. Max wt 5000 lbs.

Denny
'72 F-100 360 2WD Manual everything, 140K

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