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Received: with LISTAR (v0.128a; list 61-79-list); Mon, 14 Feb 2000 02:03:26 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 02:03:26 -0500 (EST) From: Ford Truck Enthusiasts List Server To: 61-79-list digest users Reply-to: 61-79-list  ford-trucks.com Subject: 61-79-list Digest V2000 #5 Precedence: bulk ========================================================== Ford Truck Enthusiasts 1961-1979 Truck Mailing List Visit our web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ford-trucks.com with the words "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the subject of the message. ========================================================== ------------------------------------ 61-79-list Digest Sat, 12 Feb 2000 Volume: 2000 Issue: 005 In This Issue: Re: cost of rebuilt 429? Overheating Again Re: 351 Oiling Tip?? ADMIN: AFTE and Pigeon Forge Lists 73-77' OEM Grille Shell - Urgent! Re: 73-77' OEM Grille Shell - Urgent! Re: Windshield Trim Re: Trim "Em Re: 351 Oiling Tip?? Re: 351 Oiling Tip?? Frame painting/cleaning Re: Grille Shell D6TZ-8200A ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SHill48337 aol.com Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 21:14:40 EST Subject: Re: cost of rebuilt 429? In a message dated 2/12/00 5:33:03 PM Eastern Standard Time, lukes67ford hotmail.com writes: << The cost of the rebuild depends on what you expect from the motor. Is it a daily driver? Or is it a dragster? In the latest issue of Street Trucks they purchased a 460 long block from the factory for just over $1400. It just depends on what you want. I am rebuilding a 460 to put in my 67 F100. I have already spent over $2,000 and haven't even had the block prepped yet. The 460 is being built for mild performance. Good luck and I hope that I have been of some help. Thanks, Luke >> If you do not mind I would like to know some of things you are doing to your engine, I've spend over a year and about 4 grand on mine just doing the things I always wanted to do. Trick Flow aluminum CJ heads 2.5" intakes, 72cc combustion chambers, TRW forged pistons with 15cc dish, removed 0.022" from the deck height, 10.5 : 1 compression ratio, gear drive for cam, rotating assembly balanced to less than half a gram, matching Trick Flow intake manifold, 750 Holley, special ARP main studs and rod bolts, MSD ignition. Should have it running in March. Would like to discuss your reasoning for what you are doing. Burt Hill Kennewick WA 1972 F-250 4x4 460 ------------------------------ Date: 12 Feb 00 22:31:10 MST From: "Dave W." Subject: Overheating Again Hi all, Been a while since I posted. I'm in a pickle. Back in July I posted about a truck I was working on that was overheating. Got quite a bit of response but one stuck out and I save it and now I've lost it. It was the simplest and best explanation i've heard yet. But I can't remember who wrote it. If u remember writing it or who wrote it or know what I'm talking about please post or Email me privately ASAP. It had basic reasons for overheating. Lower radiator cool: ?, Upper radiator hose cool: ? etc. talked about what those meant as far as blocked radiator etc. Thanx in advance. Dave Complete and Total FordNut, Highboy Nut, And FE Nut too!!!!!!!!! ____________________________________________________________________ Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.amexmail.com/?A=1 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2000 23:39:12 -0800 From: Tim Bowman Subject: Re: 351 Oiling Tip?? I wrote some time ago about an auxillary oiling system was very common for the Y block series to improve oil flow to the rockers. That system consisted of inserting a "Y" fitting in the oil pressure sending unit hole in the block, and then running tubing to the top of the valve covers. Then using a bolt with the hole in the center the oil was directed down to the rocker shaft. (There's really a few more details but I think you get the drift). The same principle should be able to be adapted to the 351. I didn't see the original post so I can't comment on it. If you want more details, let me know. -- Tim Bowman '71 F100 tkbowman uswest.netPitstop Performance wrote: It was some while back, but a list member posted a great tip to improve oiling on a street 351M. If I remember right, it started out as a high dollar race treatment... But the poster showed a cheaper way to do it for street engines. I think it had something to do with tapping the block near the rear of the valley pan and redirecting some oil up front. There were pics and other good stuff. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 11:04:38 -0500 From: Ken Payne Subject: ADMIN: AFTE and Pigeon Forge Lists The AFTE and Pigeon Forge lists are back up. Ken Payne Admin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 13:44:04 -0500 From: Dan Herrmann Subject: 73-77' OEM Grille Shell - Urgent! Hi Everyone! As many of the long time FTE members know, I am a NUT about OEM / NOS Ford Replacement Parts. I feel if your going to build that perfect truck, then the only way to go is to use Genuine Ford Parts whenever possible! Over the years being involved in building, restoring & driving these old machines I have helped countless people find the parts they need to complete there projects and the Internet has opened up hundreds of new sources for this. I always try to post whenever I can the urgent need to purchase an item if I see the signs of it about to become obsolete. And I have another today. During the second week of January I ordered from my buddy at the Ford dealership a replacement Grille Shell (the chrome surround) for my 1975 Explorer. The item came up on National Backorder with Ford and there computer noted that production would begin as soon as they were done running another batch of the 78/79 style Shells. Then during the first week of February my order along with over 100 other backorders was Cancelled by Ford and the part number converted to Obsolete! "I about died!" Fortunately, within 5 days Ford Reinstated the part number due to so many complaints from there dealers and agreed to run another batch which should be available approximately March 1st according to the notes in the Ford computer. This is an extremely rare thing and usually only happens whenever an item is dropped while having a large number of backorders in the system. But it is also a sure sign that a part has seen the "end of the road!!" Usually Ford will only produce enough to fill all there orders and obsolete the number for good after that. The urgency here is to Place Your Order Now ASAP!! Go to your dealership's this week or you may miss out!! Order Part Number D6TZ-8200A. You should not have to pay for the item until it comes in. As far as price goes, when I priced this out last December the Retail was going for $283.23 ..... BUT, it is also VERY COMMON for Ford to increase the selling price during the remaining stock of a part number when it is about to go Obsolete! So don't be surprised if you find a higher price than this. For those of you whom may have friends or family members that work at dealerships then maybe they can get you the item and save you some bucks!! After all, at this retail price the dealership's cost is only $170. And once the item is obsolete and the dealership's are dried up, then the NOS dealers will be asking 5-$600 bucks for them!! Good Luck!! Dan Herrmann 1964 F100 Custom Cab 1966 F100 Custom Cab 1969 F100 Ranger 1975 F150 Explorer 1979 F150 Ranger XLT 1992 F150 Custom (Daily driver) 1992 Tempo GL (Wife's car) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 10:49:03 -0800 From: "Mike Sealey" <75.f150 angelfire.com>Subject: Re: 73-77' OEM Grille Shell - Urgent! On Sun, 13 Feb 2000 13:44:04 Dan Herrmann wrote: > As many of the long time FTE members know, I am a NUT about OEM / NOS Ford >Replacement Parts...(snip) >...I always try to post whenever I can the urgent need to >purchase an item if I see the signs of it about to become obsolete. And I >have another today. (followed by very informative heads-up on grille shell D6TZ-8200A) Thanks for a timely and informative heads-up. I'm tempted to go out and buy one even though the one I have is perfect... --- Mike Sealey '75 F-150 Ranger, 390/C6 ("Redneck Continental") Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.angelfire.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 11:42:12 -0800 (PST) From: "D. DiMartino" Subject: Re: Windshield Trim Dan Herrmann wrote: The Stainless Steel Windshield Trim used on the 73-77' Models have the same "C7TZ" Part numbers as the 67-72' models have. Great, thanks for all the info from everyone, now it's time to comb the junk yards in my area for a complete set that can be buffed out. ===== Daniel DiMartino 1968 F-250 soon to be a 4x4 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 14:28:42 -0800 From: Marv Miller Subject: Re: Trim "Em As Ken wrote to us all: > Can everyone discipline themselves to remove the unsubscribe > information footer from the bottom of messages when replying? > If the list can't self-police themselves with this, I'll have > to set up a filter to bounce such posts. As Mel Brooks once said: "It's GOOD to be King"! ;-) I just wish that the listfathers on some of the other groups I read would consider doing this. I say "Go ahead and DO it"! We'll get the idea, real soon. Can you tell this is a "pet peeve"? Speaking of pets, they belong on the seat beside you, not in the bed, when going somewhere with you in your Ford Truck (content). Marv Miller mailto:ae722 lafn.org"Striving to be the person that my dog thinks I am". ------------------------------ From: "Bill Beyer" Subject: Re: 351 Oiling Tip?? Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 14:42:54 -0800 I believe it was Chris Samuel that posted the tip for M blocks which basically consisted of putting a Y or T fitting in the oil sending unit hole and plumbing from there to the oil gallery plug in front of the oil filter which is normally blocked with a pipe plug. Very simple & easily accomplished. "If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, riddle them with bullets" ----- Original Message ----- From: Tim Bowman To: <61-79-list ford-trucks.com>Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2000 11:39 PM Subject: [61-79-list] Re: 351 Oiling Tip?? > I wrote some time ago about an auxillary oiling system was very common > for the Y block series to improve oil flow to the rockers. That system > consisted of inserting a "Y" fitting in the oil pressure sending unit > hole in the block, and then running tubing to the top of the valve > covers. Then using a bolt with the hole in the center the oil was > directed down to the rocker shaft. (There's really a few more details > but I think you get the drift). The same principle should be able to be > adapted to the 351. I didn't see the original post so I can't comment > on it. If you want more details, let me know. > Pitstop Performance wrote: > > It was some while back, but a list member posted a great tip to improve > oiling on a street 351M. If I remember right, it started out as a high > dollar race treatment... But the poster showed a cheaper way to do it > for > street engines. I think it had something to do with tapping the block > near > the rear of the valley pan and redirecting some oil up front. There were > > pics and other good stuff. ------------------------------ From: GMontgo930 aol.comDate: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 17:49:25 EST Subject: Re: 351 Oiling Tip?? Im going from memory so I could be wrong (nothing new), but here goes. A fitting was installed into one of the tapped & plugged holes in the block near the oil filter. From here an external line was run to a Tee fitting installed under the oil pressure sender at the rear of the block. This gave the rear of the block another source of fresh cool oil Vs what wandered there through the stock passages. Kinda ugly, but I spose it could work that's what I 'member anyway!! George in the FL Swamps.... In a message dated 2/13/2000 2:43:33 AM Eastern Standard Time, tkbowman USWEST.NET writes:<< I wrote some time ago about an auxillary oiling system was very common for the Y block series to improve oil flow to the rockers. That system consisted of inserting a "Y" fitting in the oil pressure sending unit hole in the block, and then running tubing to the top of the valve covers. Then using a bolt with the hole in the center the oil was directed down to the rocker shaft. (There's really a few more details but I think you get the drift). The same principle should be able to be adapted to the 351. I didn't see the original post so I can't comment on it. If you want more details, let me know. -- Tim Bowman '71 F100 tkbowman uswest.netPitstop Performance wrote: It was some while back, but a list member posted a great tip to improve oiling on a street 351M. If I remember right, it started out as a high dollar race treatment... But the poster showed a cheaper way to do it for street engines. I think it had something to do with tapping the block near the rear of the valley pan and redirecting some oil up front. There were pics and other good stuff. >> ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 17:44:52 -0600 From: Bill Subject: Frame painting/cleaning Hello All, I was wondering if anyone could answer my questions about redoing my frame on my 66' SWB. I'd like to clean it up and repaint the whole frame. Will I need to sandblast it or will high pressure from the carwash clean off the old dirt and paint good enough to apply new paint. Any comments/suggestions appreciated. Bill ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 23:05:17 -0800 From: "Mike Sealey" <75.f150 angelfire.com>Subject: Re: Grille Shell D6TZ-8200A Just gave that part number another look... ...doesn't "D6" signify something that first appeared in the '76 model year? (Talking Fords, not Caterpillars...) --- Mike Sealey '75 F-150 Ranger, 390/C6 ("Redneck Continental") Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.angelfire.com ------------------------------ End of 61-79-list Digest V2000 #5 ********************************* ---------------------------------------------------------- Ford Truck Enthusiasts 1961-1979 Truck Mailing List Send posts to small-list ford-trucks.comIf you ever want to remove yourself from this mailing list, send an email to: listar ford-trucks.comwith the words "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the subject of the message. 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