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61-79-list Digest Thu, 23 Mar 2000 Volume: 2000 Issue: 048

In This Issue:
Re: 3/4 inch aluminum tube from air cleaner
E-Brake Broke...
Re: 1970 steering
Unusual 8' bed for sale in eastern WA
Re: E-Brake Broke...
Re: Late 77 highboy
Super Camper Special
Re: E-Brake Broke...
Washington
Re: E-Brake Broke...
Will 79 spindles fit 68 dana 44
Re: Unusual 8' bed for sale in eastern WA
Re: Will 79 spindles fit 68 dana 44
Re: CLUNK when taking off from a stop
Re: Will 79 spindles fit 68 dana 44
Re: E-Brake Broke...
Re: E-Brake Broke...
460 Crank Journal Question??????
Mr. Majestyk Ford Truck
Re: Washington
Re: Mr. Majestyk Ford Truck
Re: Washington

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From: GMontgo930 aol.com
Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 23:27:50 EST
Subject: Re: 3/4 inch aluminum tube from air cleaner

Just a thought, how about a length of 3/4 in heater hose to replace the hard
to locate tube? It'd probibly hold up better and is more available. Unless
you going for hte factory look.

George M in Fl.

In a message dated 3/23/2000 1:08:34 PM Eastern Standard Time,
nukegm ford-trucks.com writes:

> have been trying to locate the flimsy 3/4 inch diameter aluminum tube
> which is wrapped in a black paper tape
> that runs from the air cleaner (dry element) to the charcoal cannister on a
> 71 FE powered truck.
> They also used these on other models too.
>
> I have tried the Ford dealer and every other parts house and supplier in
> town
> and in the next burg up the road. No luck. I have tried the help section
> in the parts store
> and every other oddball place I could think of. I called Mustang
> suppliers, Obsolete parts dealers and notta.
>
> If anyone has seen this for sale please let me know ASAP.
>
> I need a strectch of it atleast 4 feet long. Thanks for any help.

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From: "Tim Neasham" 3-cities.com>
Subject: E-Brake Broke...
Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 21:10:52 -0800

Hey ya'll.. Got a nagging problem I need some help with. I drove my '69
F-250 2wd to the store yesterday, left it running, set the e-brake. Came
out, disengaged the e-brake, drove home. I shut the beast down, stepped on
the e-brake and slam, straight to the floor. What the... Released it,
stepped on it again, same thing. Okay, cable broke, right? Wrong. Cable
is fine back to the "yoke." Cable to one of the drums broke? Nope, both
are fine. Can pull on them and hear the brakes "working." Checked the
adjuster, it's fine. Same place it's been for the last 2 years (judging by
the build up of grease & dirt.) So where do I go next? Obviously inside
the drums, but I don't really wanna do this (the idea of pulling a Dana 60
apart frightens me.) Is there a simpler solution I'm overlooking, or have I
covered all the "normal" bases? Any help would be appreciated. Tanks.

Tim Neasham
'69 F-250 Camper Special
Benton City, Wa


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From: Fordman66 webtv.net (Ford Mann)
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 00:13:23 -0600 (CST)
Subject: Re: 1970 steering

Check the steering coupler, strut rod bushings, or King pins. If they
are all good check over the steering components.

Ted


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From: Brazzadog aol.com
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 02:22:59 EST
Subject: Unusual 8' bed for sale in eastern WA

Ever since the original bed rusted off my pickup and I had to replace it with
one off an '87 I've been looking for a deal on a '78 bed. I looked at one
today for $150. I don't know what a good solid bed goes for, but that seems
pretty cheap. It came off a '78 Camper Special and won't fit my truck cause
the wheel wells are about 8" farther back than mine. It was dark and I was
using a 99 cent 6' tape measure so I sorta had to guess. It seemed that the
center of the rear wheel opening was 62" from the front edge of the bed
rather than the 55" or so on mine.

Anyway, it had a factory spare tire cradle in the body cavity in front of the
right side rear wheel opening. I never saw anything like it, but it appeared
to be factory. It's in pretty good shape except for a popped front corner
seam. It's a basically dent free, rust free specimen - as desert dwelling
bodies tend to be. It also had a bunch of fancy chrome trim in the usual
places. If anybody wants me to go take another look or wants the guys phone
number, let me know. I'm not sure but I think he's been trying to get rid of
it for a few months now and it doesn't look like he particularly needs the
money.

Ben Williams
'71 Wagoneer
'78 F-250 4x4

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From: TBeeee aol.com
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 07:05:27 EST
Subject: Re: E-Brake Broke...

Tim Cried out:

> So where do I go next? Obviously inside
> the drums, but I don't really wanna do this (the idea of pulling a Dana 60
> apart frightens me.) Is there a simpler solution I'm overlooking, or have
I
> covered all the "normal" bases? Any help would be appreciated.


Welcome friend. You just joined the ranks of the many, many F-250 owners
without a working e-brake. From your description of what you checked. It
sure does sound like the cable end broke off in one of the wheels. There is
no quick fix. Pulling the hubs is not that hard. Finding the proper cables
may be another story. Good luck.

Stock Man
1967 F-250 FE 390 4wd
1966 F-250 I6 240 2wd LWB Flare Side
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.hometown.aol.com/tbeeee

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From: Rubberducky23 webtv.net (Danny Ling)
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 06:07:26 -0600 (CST)
Subject: Re: Late 77 highboy

My C6 is a fixed yolk version with a pretty short tail shaft and
housing. The tailshaft housing has 2 large, drilled, and tapped bosses
forward of the location of where the speedometer cable would go. the
spedo hole is drilled but then filled with a plug. the forward most boss
on the tailshaft housing on the left side is the pivot point for my T
case shifter. it pivots on a special, hollow greasable bolt that has
about 7/16 threads and steps up to about an inch in diameter where the
lever pivots. the rearward boss is unused.

Laters, Danny Ling


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From: Marvin Meyer strat.net>
Subject: Super Camper Special
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 06:59:05 -0500

Ben it sounds like it is a Super Camper Special, I wish I lived closer
Marvin


Ever since the original bed rusted off my pickup and I had to replace it with
one off an '87 I've been looking for a deal on a '78 bed. I looked at one
today for $150. I don't know what a good solid bed goes for, but that seems
pretty cheap. It came off a '78 Camper Special and won't fit my truck cause
the wheel wells are about 8" farther back than mine. It was dark and I was
using a 99 cent 6' tape measure so I sorta had to guess. It seemed that the
center of the rear wheel opening was 62" from the front edge of the bed
rather than the 55" or so on mine.

Anyway, it had a factory spare tire cradle in the body cavity in front of the
right side rear wheel opening. I never saw anything like it, but it appeared
to be factory. It's in pretty good shape except for a popped front corner
seam. It's a basically dent free, rust free specimen - as desert dwelling
bodies tend to be. It also had a bunch of fancy chrome trim in the usual
places. If anybody wants me to go take another look or wants the guys phone
number, let me know. I'm not sure but I think he's been trying to get rid of
it for a few months now and it doesn't look like he particularly needs the
money.



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From: Pyrate951 aol.com
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 09:00:10 EST
Subject: Re: E-Brake Broke...

I found a catalog fom a company called LMC that carries alot of stuff like that. I do not have their email adress at work but will put it up when I get home.

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From: "kamook" msn.com>
Subject: Washington
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 06:26:08 -0800


Wow did know so many of you guys were in WA. I live in Maple Valley, maybe we can do a trail ride or something eventually. When I get my truck

-Adam


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From: prozell oaielectronics.com (OAI Electronics: Paul Rozell)
Subject: Re: E-Brake Broke...
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 08:55:03 -0600

> I found a catalog fom a company called LMC that carries alot of stuff like
that. I do not have their email adress at work but will put it up when I get
home.
> ==========================================================


I haved the catalog as well, and it has alot of things that several of the
other companies don't carry. try www.longmotor.com
you can order a catalog there.


Paul Rozell
65 F100 460 C6




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From: "Joe " p3.net>
Subject: Will 79 spindles fit 68 dana 44
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 10:27:57 -0500

Group,
can i use parts from a 76-79 disc brake front axle(dana 44) and swap them
onto a 68 dana 44 drum axle????
joe

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From: JUMPINFORD aol.com
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 11:02:28 EST
Subject: Re: Unusual 8' bed for sale in eastern WA

Its a shame you arent a lil closer, I could use that thing! I bent mine up
during that thunder truck run, and dad says its gonna be a handful to fix.
Oh well, looks like hes getting a lot of free labor out of me for awhile.

Darrell Duggan
74 F-350 "Tweety"

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Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 08:32:43 -0800
From: Don Grossman mac.com>
Subject: Re: Will 79 spindles fit 68 dana 44

>Group,
>can i use parts from a 76-79 disc brake front axle(dana 44) and swap them
>onto a 68 dana 44 drum axle????
>joe

Unless the 76-79 axle is a Chevy the answer is no. The spindles that
Ford used on the drum brake axles had 6 bolts or studs holding
everything on. This is the same pattern for the Chevy drum and disk
brake axles.

Here are a couple of links to get you started. These are for the
Broncos but the F series will be almost exactly the same.

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.bronco. com /tech/upgrades/F150_disc_brake_conversion.html

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.bronco. com /tech/upgrades/disc_brakes/index.html

Laters
--
Don Grossman
duckdon mac.com

43 GPW
63 F-100 4x4
77 F250
99 Contour

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From: draco pacifier.com
Subject: Re: CLUNK when taking off from a stop
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 08:42:16 -0800 (PST)

oldfords63 juno.com wrote:
> ... Then when you accelerate, the pinion wants to go up, pushing
> the yoke "in" slightly. That sudden release and movement can cause
> that CLUNK you hear.

HA! I didn't have time to pull the driveshaft last night, so I just
greased the yoke. The clunk is GONE! It did in once at the first
stop sign and never again all the way into work. Thank you. I have
greased it before, but I guess not enough. It took about 10 pumps.

> This is even worse if you stop hard, which pulls the yoke out more,
> then take off hard which makes it want to go back in quickly.

I didn't mention it in my original post, but this is exactly what my
friend said his truck did. The harder you stop, the louder the clunk.


Mark in Southwest Washington
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.pacifier.com/~draco/Truck.html
--
'74 F-100 Ranger XLT 4x4


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Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 09:33:55 -0800 (PST)
From: "D. DiMartino" yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Will 79 spindles fit 68 dana 44

i dunno joe, but you need to send me something....

--- Joe p3.net> wrote:
> Group,
> can i use parts from a 76-79 disc brake front axle(dana 44)
> and swap them
> onto a 68 dana 44 drum axle????
> joe


=====
Daniel DiMartino
yahoo.com>
1968 F-250 soon to be a 4x4

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From: "Don Jones" hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: E-Brake Broke...
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 09:49:20 PST



>stepped on
>the e-brake and slam, straight to the floor. What the... Released it,
>stepped on it again, same thing. Okay, cable broke, right? Wrong. Cable
>is fine back to the "yoke." Cable to one of the drums broke? Nope, both
>are fine. Can pull on them and hear the brakes "working." Checked the
>adjuster, it's fine. Same place it's been for the last 2 years (judging by
>the build up of grease & dirt.) So where do I go next? Obviously inside
>the drums, but I don't really wanna do this (the idea of pulling a Dana 60
>apart frightens me.) Is there a simpler solution I'm overlooking, or have
>I
>covered all the "normal" bases? Any help would be appreciated. Tanks.
>
>

Sounds like a broken cable
I have a new cable sitting on the seat right now to replace one i snagged on
a stump while wheeling a few weeks ago.
My parts place couldnt get an exact fit cable, but they had a universal fit
one. I dont know how it will work, but it looks good because i can make it
any length i need ... those things never seem to be the right length.
I'm thinking about coating the entire cable with anti-seize before i put it
on.

I had a mechanic (local GM dealer! they love getting my truck in there) do
the brakes for me last time, but i'm going to tackle it myself this time.

Don Jones
1970 F-250 4X4 ~FORDZILLA~


______________________________________________________


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From: SHill48337 aol.com
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 13:49:55 EST
Subject: Re: E-Brake Broke...

In a message dated 3/24/00 12:11:01 AM Eastern Standard Time,
tneasham 3-cities.com writes:

<< Hey ya'll.. Got a nagging problem I need some help with. I drove my '69
F-250 2wd to the store yesterday, left it running, set the e-brake. Came
out, disengaged the e-brake, drove home. I shut the beast down, stepped on
the e-brake and slam, straight to the floor. What the... Released it,
stepped on it again, same thing. Okay, cable broke, right? Wrong. Cable
is fine back to the "yoke." Cable to one of the drums broke? Nope, both
are fine. Can pull on them and hear the brakes "working." Checked the
adjuster, it's fine. Same place it's been for the last 2 years (judging by
the build up of grease & dirt.) So where do I go next? Obviously inside
the drums, but I don't really wanna do this (the idea of pulling a Dana 60
apart frightens me.) Is there a simpler solution I'm overlooking, or have I
covered all the "normal" bases? Any help would be appreciated. Tanks.
>>

Tim,

So you are saying that when some one pushes on the brake pedal after you have
pulled the cable and yoke toward the rear, that the cable then moves forward.
The only reason I ask is that on my truck the cable separated from the pedal
assembly, took a little while to figure it out. The other reason is if there
is a problem inside the drum and the cables are working fine then at the yoke
there should be large miss match in the two cables with the pedal depressed.
If you want to going into the rear breaks bring it on over, should replace
internal seals and need a gasket for the axle. Contact me directly and can
set up a time in the evening takes me about and hour and half per wheel.
Burt Hill Kennewick WA 1972 F250 4x4 460

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From: "Luke Phillips" hotmail.com>
Subject: 460 Crank Journal Question??????
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 15:47:32 CST

I ask again! Why is the small hole in the first crank journal drilled off
center? Its the journal closest to the timing chain. The large hole lines up
perfectly. As well as the rest of the small and large holes in the rest of
the journals. Is it suppose to be this way or what? I need to know before I
install the crank. Please HELP. Thanks..

Luke Phillips
67 F100 shortbed 240 I6 (460 in the works!) 2001 SuperNats Bound!
______________________________________________________


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Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 16:50:16 -0600
From: John Strauss inetport.com>
Subject: Mr. Majestyk Ford Truck

Anybody know where I could get a movie clip of the chase scene in "Mr.
Majestyk" with the yellow '68 F100? Or better yet the commercial Ford made
of it in the late 70s?
_
_| ~~. John Strauss
\, *_} jstraussinetport.com
\( Texas Fight!


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From: "Josh Assing" jassing.com>
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 15:48:25 -0800
Subject: Re: Washington

> Wow did know so many of you guys were in WA. I live in Maple Valley, maybe we can do a trail ride or something eventually. When I get my truck
We've gotten together a few times here & there; all it takes is
someone to set the meeting in place...
I wouldn't take my rig offroad too much; manual steering; 36" tires
& original transfer case don't equal a good combo for serious
offroading!
Maybe I'd meet you all and ride my dirt bike

Cheers
-josh


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From: JUMPINFORDaol.com
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 22:36:02 EST
Subject: Re: Mr. Majestyk Ford Truck

I wish I did, but incluse me in the list of folks that wanna see it!

Darrell & Tweety

PS I get the video of my escapade for thunder trucks on Wed, I'll see about
gettin a PC version so I can share with all of you.

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From: canzusseanet.com
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 20:01:59 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: Washington

At 06:26 AM 24:03:2000 -0800, you wrote:
>
>Wow did know so many of you guys were in WA. I live in Maple Valley, maybe
we can do a trail ride or something eventually. When I get my truck
>
>-Adam
>

If you're really looking for a truck, I know of a very nice 76-78
4X4 for sale.... It's in Bellevue, I'll give directions if you want...

Steve & the Rockette
68 F100, 390cid, FMX
63 F100, 292cid, 3speed
72 Capri 2000, hers
73 Capri 2600,tube frame going in.....
73 MGB GT, Our Toy
94 SHO, SWMBO's
98 Contour SVT, Mine, Mine, All Mine....


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