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61-79-list Digest Fri, 17 Mar 2000 Volume: 2000 Issue: 042

In This Issue:
OEM Parts Corporation
Getting belted
Re: A new addition to the family
Seat Belts...
HighBoy Identification
Re: 390 or 360 ????????
Re: 390 or 360 ????????
Re: Seat Belts...
Re: Seat belt laws, etc.
Re: OEM Parts Corporation
Re: Seat Belts...
Thunder Trucks
Re: 65 Dash/Custom Cab question
Re: Seat Belts...
Re: Oem Parts Corporation
Re: Seat belt laws, etc.
Re: Seat belt laws, etc.
seatbelts
Re: OEM Parts Corporation
Re: Thunder Trucks
Re: Getting belted
Re: OEM Parts Corporation
Re: 65 Dash/Custom Cab Question?
Re: 65 Dash/Custom Cab Question?

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From: Natp244 cs.com
Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 22:25:49 EST
Subject: OEM Parts Corporation

I would like to know if any of you folks have dealt with a company known as
OEM Parts Corporation- they sell genuine ford dealer parts, supposedly at
much less than dealer prices. I just like to know a little about the
reputation of a company before I start giving them my money.
An excerpt from their website (now just a page- under HEAVY construction)
says:

"OEM Parts Corporation is an alternative source for ALL genuine Ford
products: sheet metal, electronic/electrical components, wiring harnesses,
trim, chassis & brake parts, emission/fuel related components, to mention
just a few. If you thought you HAD to go to a Ford or Lincoln Mercury dealer
to buy it - OEM Parts Corporation has it for less!"

It just almost sounds too good to be true- that's why I'm asking

Thanks in advance

Nate




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From: "Pat" aisl.bc.ca>
Subject: Getting belted
Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 19:29:29 -0800

Howdy Folks,
Yup there doesn't seem to be much question that staying inside a good
solid Ford is healthier than flying around with hard things to stop against.
For a couple of years, the local workman's compensation inspector used to
stop into my shop with all kinds of macabre pictures of horrible accidents
involving various workmen of one kind or another.
In every accident involving pickups I asked the same question, Did they
have their seat belts on and EVERY time the answer was, Oh God no, if they
had they would have been killed. Seems that in the industrial type of
accident, the ability to move out of the way of what wishes to kill you is
more important than being strapped in place. None of what I am talking about
occurred on a freeway, in fact there aren't any of them in my vacinity.
Not so sure that seat belts are a good idea when slow cruising on the
dirt roads.
Pat
Patsplace
77 F250 4X4
78 F150 W/Overloads
72 Ranger parts truck
79 F250 4X4 (Dream Truck Under Construction)
78 F250 2WD Lariat Donor for the DT

¤¤From: "James Hodgson"
¤¤Subject: Seat belt laws,
¤¤Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000
¤¤ In regard to mandatory seat belt laws.....



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From: "Tim and Pam Allgire" williams-net.com>
Subject: Re: A new addition to the family
Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 23:48:36 -0500

I think it is District Sales Origin
-----Original Message-----
From: Howard Bottles austin.ppdi.com>
To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com <61-79-list ford-trucks.com>
Date: Friday, March 17, 2000 1:24 PM
Subject: [61-79-list] A new addition to the family


>Thanks for the info regarding the '73 I sent a post about a few days
>ago. I made a deal with the guy and now the '73 short bed F100 is home.
>It is a Custom, but has 2 tone paint like my '74 Ranger. It has a
>240/I6, PS, manual disc brakes. Pretty clean body and bed wise, all
>glass is in good shape. According to the door ID tag, the truck was
>built with an automatic trans, code G, but it currently has a HD 4spd,
>NP i think, the reverse is to the right and down. The steering column
>doesn't have the automatic shift lever in the cab or in the engine
>compartment, and of course it has a clutch pedal. I guess someone went
>to a lot of trouble to convert the truck from auto to manual.
>
>Also, what does DSO stand for on the ID tag? is that District Special
>Order?
>
>I hope to get some pix and post them soon of all my trucks.
>
>Thanks again
>
>Howardb
>
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Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 22:14:56 -0800
From: Tim Neasham 3-cities.com>
Subject: Seat Belts...

Judging by recent posts, it seems that seat belt use around here is out of
favor. Being a firefighter/EMT all I can say is "WEAR THE DAMN SEAT
BELT!!!" Being an engineering student, I can tell you that you WILL NOT be
able to "hold on" during a wreck. Any high school physics student can tell
you that Kinetic Energy (The force created by a moving object) is equal to
half the weight times the velocity squared, or KE = 1/2 M * V^2. So, lets
work some problems just for fun. John Ford-Truck-Driver weighs 200 pounds
is driving down the road at 25 miles an hour. All of a sudden, he hits a
parked Semi-Truck. The force John's body produces as he slams forward is
4000 foot pounds. Now he's driving at 60 mph. 24,000 foot-pounds. Now,
think you can hang on? I guess you'll be the next one I scrape up off the
highway.

T. Neasham
Firefighter/EMT
BCFPD #2

'69 F-250

Tim Neasham
Benton City, Wa.


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Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 23:58:23 -0700
From: "B.T.A.K" mail.nucleus.com>
Subject: HighBoy Identification

I just bought a new truck tonight, well new to me that is! It's a 1977 F250
4x4, GVRW 8100 lb, 4:10 limited slip rear end, 400 auto, np205. The
manufacture date on the door pillar is 05/77. Is this truck a HighBoy, how
can I tell? What are the advantages/dissadvantages of the HighBoy? How can
I tell what front axle the truck has ...Dana 44 or 60...?


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From: ballingr bootheel.net
Subject: Re: 390 or 360 ????????
Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 03:36:46 -0600

Damon,

>When you pull the pan look at the bottom of the >pistons. If they are
>skirted then it's a 390, if they are flat on the bottom >then it's a 360.

>schu

Many 360s used a 390 4V flat top piston that is skirted. The only real way
to tell is to measure the stroke.


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From: ballingr bootheel.net
Subject: Re: 390 or 360 ????????
Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 04:13:29 -0600

That must have run good! The Compression height of
a 390 piston is 1.680 and a 360 is 1.776 I take that
to mean that the piston at TDC is 0.096 below the top
of the deck + the normal deck clearance of 0.104.
All this means that the piston at the top is 0.200
below the deck. Say low compression? That is unless
my book is wrong.
>>>>>>>>>>>

Truck 390s used a 410 piston with the 1.68 compression height. The
passenger car 390 used the 1.776 height piston.


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Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 03:07:44 -0700
From: "Kiernan, Denny" wenet.net>
Subject: Re: Seat Belts...

Tim Neasham wrote:
> John Ford-Truck-Driver weighs 200 pounds
> is driving down the road at 25 miles an hour. All of a sudden, he hits a
> parked Semi-Truck. The force John's body produces as he slams forward is
> 4000 foot pounds. Now he's driving at 60 mph. 24,000 foot-pounds. Now,
> think you can hang on? I guess you'll be the next one I scrape up off the
> highway.

I dont think anyone said that a seatbelt would not be needed in a
high-speed head-on crash.

I think the point was that while some people prefer to play it safe by
using a seat belt all the time, and others would rather take their
chances, the argument that the pro-belters generally use as
justification for forcing everyone to use a belt -- that it saves
society money -- probably doesn't hold water.

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From: "James Hodgson" ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: Seat belt laws, etc.
Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 09:40:22 -0500


I originally wrote," In regard to mandatory seat belt laws (for adults) most cops I know are against 'em as well."

Denny Kiernan asked, "This is an interesting point, which I've never heard before. What do you base this on?"

Denny also asked, "Crown Vic -- do you happen to be a cop?"

Denny, I'm the Operations Officer (Major) and acting Chief Deputy for the Bradley County Sheriff's Office in Cleveland, Tennessee. We're a small agency, only 65 law enforcement personnel. Contrary to the popular culture, cops are people too, and most of us resent unnecessary government intrusion into our lives just as much as anyone else. Our agency prefers to use education along with the minimum necessary enforcement to improve traffic safety. Example: you are very likely to be stopped for speeding in our county, but only about 15% of our traffic stops result in anything more than a verbal warning or a warning citation. Most of that 15% are really flagrant violations, or someone who escalates the traffic stop into an arrest situation. Our accident rate is quite low.

Enforcing the seat belt laws -for adults- is normally quite low on our list of priorities. In our state, the seat belt law is not a "primary offense," that is, if we stop you for speeding and you are not wearing your belt, you can be cited. But if I'm following you down the road and I can see your belt hanging unused from the B pillar, I can't stop you just for not wearing the belt. Now, because it's the law, if we stop you for another violation we can't let you drive away unbelted, so we will advise you to buckle up. But we seldom cite a person unless they are too dense to see the wisdom of following the deputy's advice and refuse to put on the belt. Almost never happens.


FTE content: I was driving my 66 F-250 in town one evening, creeping along looking for a particular address, and I guess I looked suspicious because a city officer -a very young officer- pulled me over. After I explained what I was doing, he started to leave, then paused and said, "Sir, you aren't wearing your seat belt." I replied that I was indeed wearing my belt, and invited him to look inside the cab. He looked at my lap belt, then looked really surprised and asked, "You mean these old trucks didn't have a shoulder belt?" I realized then that the truck was at least a dozen years older than the officer!



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Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 08:25:11 -0800
From: William A Whited ford-trucks.com>
Subject: Re: OEM Parts Corporation

What is their web site? TIA

Natp244 cs.com wrote:

> I would like to know if any of you folks have dealt with a company known as
> OEM Parts Corporation- they sell genuine ford dealer parts, supposedly at
> much less than dealer prices. I just like to know a little about the
> reputation of a company before I start giving them my money.
> An excerpt from their website (now just a page- under HEAVY construction)
> says:
>

--
William A Whited
74 F100 RANGER SUPERCAB 390
77 F150 CUSTOM 460
EL Paso, TX
SEMPER FI



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Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 12:06:22 -0500
From: Ted Wnorowski ford-trucks.com>
Subject: Re: Seat Belts...

At 10:14 PM 3/17/00 -0800, you wrote:
>Judging by recent posts, it seems that seat belt use around here is out of
>favor.

On the show "Greed" last night was this question. " What % of US
adults wear their seat belts ?"
I guessed 75% at first then lowered my estimate to 60%.The answer was 79%.

Ted Wnorowski
Bellevue,OH
' 64 F-250
352 transplant
4 speed
' 63 F-100
parts truck


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From: JUMPINFORD aol.com
Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 12:14:04 EST
Subject: Thunder Trucks

Well folks I did it! Tweety and I competed in a genuine thunder truck
competition here in vegas last night. Im still tryin to see when it comes on
tv, I gotta see this for myself. What a rush! I was running againt 7 other
trucks, only one of which was street legal. There they were, shiny paint,
roll cages, and Sponsers, and there I was mis matched tailgate, stock
EVERYTHING and a good ole lap belt. They ran us on the same course as the
monster trucks, which did not have us in mind. The course was setup as an S,
and was just about 1/4 mile in length. The starting line was approxamately
40 feet from the first jump, which incedentaly had 2 cars I had to clear, I
cleared those pretty good, landed good and hard and went right to the
doubles, which I skied up to about 8 or 9 ft up, came down hard on my nose
but kept her up right. After the doubles was a tight left turn and straight
to the table top. I overshot and came down with the front tires on the down
side, but not the rears, which pushed my spare tire (which on an F-s50 is in
the side of the bed) up and tweaked the bed a bit. Not bad, but dad does
have his work cut out for him. After the table top was a slow right hand
turn followed by two jumps. After the first one I heard the annoncer holler
"DAMN look at that Ford pound!" Then I hit the 2nd one hard as hell. That
one stalled the truck, but I was already across the finish line, so It was
cool. All it was though was severe flooding, so I held it to the floor and
got it fired again, which sent the croud roaring. What a rush! I swear it
was a blast. And from what I hear I got the best croud responce cuz I was
the underdog, and I still drove out under my own power, even drove home after
a quick tire change. I didnt go the 2nd round though, as I love my truck,
and have vowed to keep all of Tweety's wheels on the ground from now on. I
mean, how am I gonna top what I just did? Especially with a stock truck! So
now Im gonna build me a beater, or a DILYSI (drive it like you stole it) as
it has been said before on here. Anyone ever gets a chance, I say do it, but
do it once and if you dont roll, consider yourself a winner. thats what I
did.

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Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 09:37:55 -0800
From: Don Grossman mac.com>
Subject: Re: 65 Dash/Custom Cab question

>In a message dated 3/17/2000 0:34:27 AM EST, scott ford-trucks.com writes:
>
>< < what year(s)have the logo in a casting that surrounds the door handle? > >
>
>My 64 has the script in the door handles .
here is a pic of my door handle if anyone doesn't know what we were
talking about ;)

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.pacific.net/~duckdon/customcab.htm
--
Don Grossman
duckdon mac.com


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Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 12:50:04 -0500
From: Ray J home.com>
Subject: Re: Seat Belts...

The great preponderance of evidence is that using belts help to both save lives
and/or minimize injury. With that in mind why would anyone not want to use them?

Ted Wnorowski wrote:

> At 10:14 PM 3/17/00 -0800, you wrote:
> >Judging by recent posts, it seems that seat belt use around here is out of
> >favor.
>
> On the show "Greed" last night was this question. " What % of US
> adults wear their seat belts ?"
> I guessed 75% at first then lowered my estimate to 60%.The answer was 79%.
>
> Ted Wnorowski
> Bellevue,OH
> ' 64 F-250
> 352 transplant
> 4 speed
> ' 63 F-100
> parts truck
>
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From: Natp244 cs.com
Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 12:54:30 EST
Subject: Re: Oem Parts Corporation

William A Whited asked:
"What is their web site?"

sorry- guess I should have included that, huh?
www.oempartscorp.com

Nate

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From: "Idahoans" earthlink.net>
Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 12:21:21 -0700
Subject: Re: Seat belt laws, etc.

On 18 Mar 00, at 9:40, James Hodgson wrote:

> I'm the Operations Officer (Major) and acting Chief Deputy for
> the Bradley County Sheriff's Office in Cleveland, Tennessee.

Hey, small world! I lived in Cleveland for 5 yrs (FTE content: and
bought my 1971 truck there). Take care,
Carla

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Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 14:36:56 -0500
From: Dan Herrmann in-motion.net>
Subject: Re: Seat belt laws, etc.

At 09:40 AM 3/18/00 -0500, you wrote:
>
>FTE content: I was driving my 66 F-250 in town one evening, and I guess I
looked suspicious because a city officer -a very young officer- pulled me
over. "Sir, you aren't wearing your seat belt." I replied that I was indeed
wearing my belt, and invited him to look inside the cab. He looked at my
lap belt, then looked really surprised and asked, "You mean these old
trucks didn't have a shoulder belt?" I realized then that the truck was at
least a dozen years older than the officer!
>


Darn that makes me feel old!!

DH


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From: "Don Jones" hotmail.com>
Subject: seatbelts
Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 11:39:30 PST

I am probably able to walk today because i didnt have my seatbelt on one
night.
It was during a trip to the Dominican Republic.
I was riding in the passenger seat of a t*y*ta minibus late at night.. the
driver slammed into the back of a parked flatbed truck. I saw it coming and
was able to jump out of the seat.
The bed if the truck ended up where my seat had been. I dont even want to
think about what it would have done to me. All that happened was a few cuts
from flying glass (no safety glass in the windshield!)
That being said, my vehcles dont move unless the passengers are belted in.
check out this link
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://ca.fullcoverage.yahoo.com/fc/Canada/Roadway_Disasters/

Don Jones
1970 f-250 4x4

______________________________________________________


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From: WEDIVE247 aol.com
Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 19:44:55 EST
Subject: Re: OEM Parts Corporation

In a message dated 3/17/2000 10:26:56 PM EST, Natp244 cs.com writes:

< < "OEM Parts Corporation > >


How about a web address ???

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From: Bad4dFilly aol.com
Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 19:50:23 EST
Subject: Re: Thunder Trucks

WOW DARRELL! That sounds like a total blast! Lemme know when it's on TV so I
can tell my friends to watch it and I can proudly tell 'em I was a passenger
in that lil truck! LOL

*~*~Lisa and Envy~*~*
*~*~SIlly boys...trucks are for girls~*~*

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From: canzus seanet.com
Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 17:41:47 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: Getting belted

At 10:26 AM 17:03:2000 -0600, you wrote:

> Actually, I could have avoided the time my truck was struck while
>parked by simply parking elsewhere. Luck has little to do with it.

Yeah, BTDT, GTLTS, way back when SWMBO and I were dating,
I would park my car on the curb. The woman across the road
backed into it, the next day I parked on the curb again but on the
other side of the driveway, the woman across the road backed
into me again, in a different spot on the car. The next day, I parked
in the driveway, She hit me again....she had no insurance, and no
licence to drive....but had a good deal of "hush" money.....


Steve & the Rockette
68 F100, 390cid, FMX
63 F100, 292cid, 3speed
72 Capri 2000, hers
73 Capri 2600,tube frame going in.....
73 MGB GT, Our Toy
94 SHO, SWMBO's
98 Contour SVT, Mine, Mine, All Mine....


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From: Natp244 cs.com
Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 21:19:10 EST
Subject: Re: OEM Parts Corporation

www.oempartscorp.com

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Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 19:15:58 -0800
From: CLAUDE JONES phonewave.net>
Subject: Re: 65 Dash/Custom Cab Question?

Hey guys and gals, I just ran across a 64 flareside with the custom cab
script surrounding the door handles, plus had a good set of Ford emblems
on the hood also! Couldn't be the original hood emblems though, they
said FORD on top and F250 in black on blue plexiglass? good shape
thought, I almost bought them until I noticed the pins are reversed from
my Ford F250 Camper Special emblems on the front fenders! Don't need to
be drilling anymore holes. :o)
I DiD pick up a sweeping hand dash instrument panel in excellent
condition (not a crack one in it!) for 25 bucks today! The one in my 66
has about 6 cracks in it, so I couldn't pass up that one today :o)
Maybe I should start grabbing all these emblems I'm running acrossed?
Ha Ha :o)

On a different subject, I'm putting in a new clutch and all and was
wondering if you can use a fine finishing grit sandpaper on the
flywheel?
When I replaced the clutch 8 years ago I noticed that the flywheel had
a glazed look to it and blueish discoloration in a few places. Or is it
time to replace?
Claude.....
66 F250
Always Free! Sand & Rock in Fallon, Nv


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From: "Freewheel" bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: 65 Dash/Custom Cab Question?
Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 21:16:00 -0600

Personally I would just take it down to my local machine shop and have them
resurface it and recheck the balance. It doesn't cost much and would have it
shifting like new.


----- Original Message -----
From: "CLAUDE JONES" phonewave.net>
To: <61-79-list ford-trucks.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2000 9:15 PM
Subject: [61-79-list] Re: 65 Dash/Custom Cab Question?


> Hey guys and gals, I just ran across a 64 flareside with the custom cab
> script surrounding the door handles, plus had a good set of Ford emblems
> on the hood also! Couldn't be the original hood emblems though, they
> said FORD on top and F250 in black on blue plexiglass? good shape
> thought, I almost bought them until I noticed the pins are reversed from
> my Ford F250 Camper Special emblems on the front fenders! Don't need to
> be drilling anymore holes. :o)
> I DiD pick up a sweeping hand dash instrument panel in excellent
> condition (not a crack one in it!) for 25 bucks today! The one in my 66
> has about 6 cracks in it, so I couldn't pass up that one today :o)
> Maybe I should start grabbing all these emblems I'm running acrossed?
> Ha Ha :o)
>
> On a different subject, I'm putting in a new clutch and all and was
> wondering if you can use a fine finishing grit sandpaper on the
> flywheel?
> When I replaced the clutch 8 years ago I noticed that the flywheel had....


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