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Received: with LISTAR (v0.128a; list 61-79-list); Tue, 14 Mar 2000 21:35:34 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 21:35:34 -0500 (EST) From: Ford Truck Enthusiasts List Server To: 61-79-list digest users Reply-to: 61-79-list  ford-trucks.com Subject: 61-79-list Digest V2000 #38 Precedence: bulk ========================================================== Ford Truck Enthusiasts 1961-1979 Truck Mailing List Visit our web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ford-trucks.com with the words "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the subject of the message. ========================================================== ------------------------------------ 61-79-list Digest Mon, 13 Mar 2000 Volume: 2000 Issue: 038 In This Issue: Thanks! Re: gas tank 429 police engine for sale Re: Galvanized metal cleaner? Re: 390 0r 352? Towing Rig FS ADMIN: Web based email is now working Re: What is it ? Re: Welding Re: 429 police engine for sale Updating seat belts FE Intake Question FE Intake Question Re: Updating seat belts Re: Updating seat belts Re: 429 police engine for sale Re: Updating seat belts Rust Remover Ford Truck Kills...(or does it?) Re: Sanderson headers link for Jason Re: T-18 to 5 speed?? BIRTHDAY WANTS..... Re: Personal posts, lets take a vote galvanized metal cleaner Traveling 5th wheel style Re: NP 205's Re: NP 205 Electrical Problem ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jason & Kathy Kendrick" Subject: Thanks! Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 19:48:45 -0600 Luke and John, thanks for sending the link to Sanderson headers. Jason ------------------------------ From: WEDIVE247 aol.com Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 21:40:21 EST Subject: Re: gas tank In a message dated 3/13/2000 8:26:54 PM EST, Mouse2Mann aol.com writes: << I would like to relocate the gas tank from my '62 unibody from inside the cab to between the frame rails. Anyone had any experience doing this and will share? If possible, I would like to keep the same fill location but will entertain other ideas. Thanks.................John >> John, I did this on my 64 , I used the fuel cell from a 70 mustang . It fit where the spare tire carrier was . I had to drill a new fill hole in the bumper, and obtained a flip down liscense tag holder from the salvage yard . Hope this helps Steve 64 f-100 ------------------------------ From: JJJJJGRANT aol.comDate: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 23:08:31 EST Subject: 429 police engine for sale a friend wants to sell this, sounds kind of high, but some one maybe interested. 1972 429 pi engine, D2OE heads (exhaust ports have been ported), the bottom end is the same as a 429 cobra jet, it has the good rods, forged pistons etc, it needs rebuilding, he wants $650.00 for it. i do know someone that paid 500.00 for a set of bare pi heads a few months ago, so it may not be such a high price after all. if anyone is interested let me know. jeff grant ------------------------------ From: "Tim and Pam Allgire" Subject: Re: Galvanized metal cleaner? Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 00:15:14 -0500 Since you have gotten all the crap removed from them,try rubbing compound & then try some Mother's Mag Polish on them.Not sure if this will do what you want or not --- just a suggestion. -----Original Message----- From: Brett L Habben To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com <61-79-listford-trucks.com>Date: Sunday, March 12, 2000 11:42 PM Subject: [61-79-list] Galvanized metal cleaner? >Folks, >What works to clean up the galvanized inner fenders and make them look >new again? I went after mine with diesel/gas/lacquer thinner and managed >to remove all the undercoating, overspray, grease, melted ignition module >potting, etc. But they still look like an old Gleaner combine abandoned >out in the grove for 50 years. Some sort of acid? >Thanks, >Brett >Super75cab >________________________________________________________________ > > > > >========================================================== >To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ford-trucks.com with>the words "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the subject of the >message. > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 22:21:33 -0700 From: "Matt" Subject: Re: 390 0r 352? Jason Thanks for the info; will be purchasing the Christ How to book. I have another 390 to build; supposed to be a webbed 390 removed from a 67 galaxy; know anything about webbed 390? Will measure stroke tommorrow to confirm. Anyways the engine runs smooth, it must have just been rebuilt before they crashed the 67 and sure looks good in my 65. Thanks Matt -- On Mon, 13 Mar 2000 19:46:50 Jason & Kathy Kendrick wrote: > Matt, C6ME-A could be a '66-'76 390, a '66-'70 428, a '64-'77 330MD, a >'64-'78 330 HD, or a '64-'78 359,361,389, or a 391. The last six choices are >highly unlikely, because they're big truck engines. Between the 390 and the >428, you've probably got a 390(much more common). An easy to figure out the >stroke of your engine would be to remove a spark plug, insert a long wooden >dowel or wire into the cylinder, and by hand, rotate the engine to get the >stroke. A 352 and 360 is 3 1/2", a 390 is 3.78"(3 3/4"), and a 428 is >3.98"(4 inches). On to the heads! > C6AE-R was for the '66 352 only. However, they are good performance heads >with big ports, and are commomly sought out and transplanted. 6080R should >actually read 6090R, which is Ford's code for cylinder head. > An excellent book to get is "How to Rebuild Big Block Fords" by Steve >Christ. The ISBN number is 0-89586-070-8. It's an excellent source of >rebuild know-how, and technical info on parts and numbers. > >Jason > >Subject: [61-79-list] Re: 390 0r 352? > > >Casting numbers on passenger side of the block C6ME-A, Right Bank heads >C6AE-R and Left Bank 6080R. Also Vin on truck C7TE9425E. Does an "S" >raised number on a 4V mean anything. >>Is there a book out there that I could learn to identify Ford >numbers/codes? Thanks for the help. >>Matt > > >========================================================== >To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ford-trucks.com with>the words "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the subject of the >message. > > MailCity. Secure Email Anywhere, Anytime! http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.mailcity.com ------------------------------ From: "Carver" Subject: Towing Rig FS Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 21:22:06 -0800 I know this truck doesn't fit into the right year categories, but this is the right forum for a Ford truck. Someone please forward to the new list, thanks. A while back I reported an '84 CrewCab for sale at a local used car lot. I ran into the owner recently and got an update. I didn't sell a the lot, so he' selling it on his own. If you are interested in a great towing rig read on. '84 Ford F6000 CrewCab, 74K miles, 3208 Cat 210 HP engine, 5 speed plus 2 speed rear end, AM-FM, CB, vacuum brakes, custom camper included with stove, micro, shower, holding tank, 20gal propane 4kw Onan generator, new refer, new fantastic roof air, storage pod, dlx mattress. All of that from his ad. Here's my take on it, and my observations and such from talking to him. He's the second owner, tow's a huge boat with it. He's heading to Alaska on a boat in April and will be gone until September. It's always been in a garage or barn except while at the lot. it's in great shape. Its a serious hauler. It has an 8000 lb hitch. Regular pickup bed, duals. Custom ordered this way in '84. A replacement for this at today's prices would set you back over $100K. I took a couple of pictures of it and the film/CD should be ready in a couple of days. I'll post when/where they can be found. I have no interest in this beyond I love crewcabs, and would like to see this special truck go to someone who appreciates a fine Ford crewcab. It's located about 30 miles east of Sacramento, in Auburn. Call at 530-823-2338. It'll only set you back $32,500 or give him an offer. Jeff '64 F100 CrewCab ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 02:01:52 -0500 From: Ken Payne Subject: ADMIN: Web based email is now working I finally worked out the kinks with the free Ford Truck Enthusiasts web based email. Before I activate any accounts, I ask that you visit the sign up page at http://www.ford-trucks.com/nwmail/index.html You don't need to fill in the form if you've previously sent me an email requesting an account. If you don't agree with the terms and conditions there, please let me know by this weekend. The terms and conditions contain mumbo-jumbo needed as a CYA for me, especially in this crazy world. As with most ISP AUPs, its only there for the occasional bad apple. If you have not emailed me a request for web based email, you can use the form to sign up for an account. I have over 150 (no kidding!) accounts to activate and will activate 10-20 per day over the next several days. When your account is activated, you'll receive instructions. Ken Payne Admin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts ------------------------------ From: pdesanto Cinergy.comSubject: Re: What is it ? Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 04:54:50 -0500 いFrom: "Hogan, Tom" いDate: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 い (assuming best surfer dude voice and accent) い Duuuuuude! Talk about your bad carrrrma! See ya, Tom H. い-------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------- Good one Tom, but me thinks your loosing it. :-) =============================================== いDate: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 いFrom: "matthew i montoya いSubject: 390 0r 352? I have a big block ford 352 or 390, . Matt ================================================= Matt- One way to be sure; pull a sparkplug out, run the piston all the way down in it's bore. (By Hand) put a long stick or rod down in the hole till it touches the piston top. Make a mark on the stick where it exits the hole. Now pull it out of the hole and bring the piston all the way to the top. Put the rod back in and make another mark where it exits the hole. The distance between the marks is your approximate stroke. The 352 will be 3 1/2" and the 390 will be just a fuzz over 3 3/4" (it's 3.78"). That'll get you close enough to tell which it is. If it's closer to 4", you are WAY too lucky. Good luck, Phil ------------------------------ From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)" Subject: Re: Welding Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 09:10:50 -0500 For thick metal you need to use "forehand" method, that is push the nozzle rather than drag it so the wire preheats the metal as it welds and the fillet builds up after the arc instead of in front of it. This can make it harder to tell what your puddle is doing since the view is blocked by the nozzle to some extent but a little practice will make it perfect :-) The actual effect is similar to gas welding where you have to develop a puddle before adding the wire. A wire welder will not penetrate to the depth that a stick will, all things being equal so you need to help it out by using this method. Verticle up is a piece a cake with a mig with a little practice. Never could get a smooth bead with a stick in that position :-) -- Michigan, Pot Hole Jumping, 78 Bronco Loving, Gary -- > Me too, I have sears stick welder, bought new, barely used. >Got the MIG >and I weld really good now. Thicker metal is NO problem for me >at all. I ------------------------------ From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)" Subject: Re: 429 police engine for sale Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 09:16:49 -0500 Yeah but.....you're in Colorado right? :-(-(-(-( I may pick up another one for $100 but it's not complete and I don't know what year yet....waiting on details :-) -- Michigan, Pot Hole Jumping, 78 Bronco Loving, Gary -- >1972 429 pi engine, D2OE heads (exhaust ports have been >ported), the bottom >end is the same as a 429 cobra jet, it has the good rods, > >jeff grant ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 08:12:35 -0700 From: "Richard Currit" Subject: Updating seat belts Hey all, has anybody out there updated the seat belts in their truck? I'm really tired of just the lap belt in the '72 F-100. What all is involved? Are there mounts for the shoulder strap hidden beneath those plastic grommets that are right over your shoulders in the cab? Thats probably wishfull thinking, but it would make it really simple. Any info greatly appreciated. High Plains Richard '72 F-100 ------------------------------ From: JUMPINFORD aol.comDate: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 10:30:09 EST Subject: FE Intake Question Hello Everybody, ------------------------------ From: JUMPINFORD aol.comDate: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 10:33:48 EST Subject: FE Intake Question Sorry bout the last post. Anyhow, I have a 4V intake for an FE Id like to identify. Its not like anyone Ive ever seen before as it has coolant ports an either side of the carb pad. The casting # on it is C8AE-9425-F. I was thinking it came off of some sort of high performance application where carb heat would be a problem, maybe even an interceptor intake. Any help you all can offer is greatly appreciated. Darrell Duggan 74 F-350 "Tweety" ------------------------------ From: "William S. Hart" Subject: Re: Updating seat belts Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 09:36:41 -0600 > Hey all, has anybody out there updated the seat belts in their truck? > I'm really tired of just the lap belt in the '72 F-100. What all is > involved? Are there mounts for the shoulder strap hidden beneath those > plastic grommets that are right over your shoulders in the cab? What you have plastic grommets there!?!?!? I'll bet there are mount points hidden there then ... Anyone know why my 73 has just bare walls, no grommets ? I'd REALLY like a shoulder belt in my truck, but can't come up with anything clean or trick to mount them ... is my truck an oddity for not having the grommets ? Just my $.02 wish 96 Mustang GT 5spd 4.6L 73ish 1/2ton 4x4 6.4L http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish ------------------------------ From: prozell oaielectronics.com (OAI Electronics: Paul Rozell)Subject: Re: Updating seat belts Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 09:55:58 -0600 > > Hey all, has anybody out there updated the seat belts in their truck? > > I'm really tired of just the lap belt in the '72 F-100. > I do not know if it is feasable but I am thinking of putting 5 point shoulder harnesses in my truck. My 65 has just a lap belt, and no where to put a shoulder belt. The 5 point harness system if installed correctly will strap the occupants in better in my opinion. besides they look like you mean business. Paul Rozell 65 F100 460 C6 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 08:01:21 -0800 From: "John MacNamara" Subject: Re: 429 police engine for sale Jeff: Does this engine have the 70 CJ block or is a 72? There's a difference in the deck height I believe. thanks John MacNamara Simi Valley JJJJJGRANT aol.com wrote:> a friend wants to sell this, sounds kind of high, but some one maybe > interested. > > 1972 429 pi engine, D2OE heads (exhaust ports have been ported), the bottom > end is the same as a 429 cobra jet, it has the good rods, forged pistons etc, > it needs rebuilding, he wants $650.00 for it. i do know someone that paid > 500.00 for a set of bare pi heads a few months ago, so it may not be such a > high price after all. if anyone is interested let me know. > > jeff grant > ========================================================== > To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ford-trucks.com with> the words "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the subject of the > message. ------------------------------ From: skordik yahoo.comSubject: Re: Updating seat belts Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 09:59:30 -0600 I know, that according to the ownder's manual, shoulder belts were available as an option for my '71. I also have the plastic grommets but have not taken the time yet to see if the mount is there. Steve Kordik > Hey all, has anybody out there updated the seat belts in their truck? > I'm really tired of just the lap belt in the '72 F-100. What all is > involved? Are there mounts for the shoulder strap hidden beneath those > plastic grommets that are right over your shoulders in the cab? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 11:37:27 -0500 From: Ted Wnorowski Subject: Rust Remover Just a quick report on the Rusteco Rust remover that I bought. On lightly rusted stuff I give it an A+. I had a C-clamp that had been left outside and developed quite a layer of rust. It wasn't pitted, but it wasn't clean either. I used the gel on it. It took about 1/2 an hour and it came completely clean. I was also using it on the battery box that I took out of my ' 63. Pitted, a couple of small holes. On this part I would give it a C -. It took off alot of the rust, but left alot also. To sum it up. Heavily rusted but not pitted, the stuff is great. Heavily rusted but pitted, stick to the wire wheels and the media blasting. Ted Wnorowski Bellevue,OH ' 64 F-250 352 transplant 4 speed ' 63 F-100 parts truck ------------------------------ From: "Scott Sanders" Subject: Ford Truck Kills...(or does it?) Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 08:57:21 PST In regards to the Ford truck beating that Pontiac. Did anyone else notice that the truck red-lighted!? Also the pontiac was applying its brakes early. I would like to have seen a race with the truck getting the green light at the start. http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.rankinroad.com/03-05-00/UncleJessie-vs-BlackFirebird.mpg Just my thoughts Scott S. ______________________________________________________ ------------------------------ From: draco pacifier.comSubject: Re: Sanderson headers link for Jason Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 09:15:03 -0800 (PST) John wrote: > here is your link info for sanderson headers > http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.centuryperformance.com/sanderson.htm > HEADERS > Sanderson Headers > 517 Railroad Ave. > South San Francisco, CA 94080-3450 > (650) 583-4590 Not sure if this was quoted from my post, but since then a few members posted the actual Sanderson URL which I didn't know about: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.sandersonheaders.com/ They've got prices on there too. I did notice that they still haven't corrected the vertical "B" dimension for the FF-427's. I quess I should send them an e-mail about it. Mark in Southwest Washington http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.pacifier.com/~draco/Truck.html -- '74 F-100 Ranger XLT 4x4 in digest mode ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 11:37:27 -0800 From: Jason Derra Subject: Re: T-18 to 5 speed?? Look into the Clark variety of 5 speeds. They can be found with a low first gear as well as a 25% (approx) overdrive. They don't shift as easily as the new 5 and 6 speeds on the market, but they are real truck transmissions and are built that way. The problem with the newer styles of 5 and 6 speeds is that they don't have removeable bellhousings and can be somewhat difficult to mate to the FE. You might try the NV4500 that was used in Dodge and GM 2500 and 3500 models. Advance Adapters has kits to mate the Dodge version behind the 302/351W and the 429/460 (and the 351M/400 of course). They may be able to give you some info on putting one behind the FE engine. Jason David Cole wrote: > Hi all, new to the list. I've been on the 80-96 list for a long time, but > this is my first post here. > > Do any list members know of a heavy duty 5 or 6 speed trans that will work > with an FE? > > A good friend has a 69 1-ton car hauler for his drag car. He bought the > truck new and it is cherry. Perfect custom paint, interior etc. Less than > 150K miles. Powered by a 390 with performer intake, 750 vac sec, few other > mods. The trans is a T-18 4-speed. The trans is in need of a rebuild, has > a bad vibration. > > He is looking to perhaps replace it with a 5 or 6 speed. Anyone know of > one? Also had the idea of adapting one of the 99-2000 6 speeds to it if > the adapter plate/ input shaft question could be solved. He bought a used > Gear Vendors overdrive for it recently, but it turns out it is bad and Gear > Vendors wants $1500 + for a rebuild, plus shipping round trip. Alabama to > California. Not cheap. > > Any input appreciated. > > Later, > > David Cole > > ========================================================== > To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ford-trucks.com with> the words "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the subject of the > message. ------------------------------ From: Bad4dFilly aol.comDate: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 15:28:51 EST Subject: BIRTHDAY WANTS..... Hey y'all! Probably thought Envy and I took a roadtrip huh? LOL Anyways, my <18th> B-day is coming up and there's only 2 things I want; both of which are also presents for Envy. Coincidence?> I wanna sport/light bar and a dash cover. Anyways, my question is: Where can I find a light bar? In the classifieds? I don't wanna pay a lot REALLY cheap. I know in JC Whitney they are about 300-500$! YIKES! I want it to work so how do I go about checking it before I buy it? I don't offroad much, but I do want the lights to work...just incase I need 'em! LOL Any suggestions will be helpful. Thanks y'all! *~*~Lisa and Envy~*~* *~*~Silly boys.....trucks are for girls!~*~* On a side note, my friend told me she heard some girls talkin about my truck while it was parked at school. I believe she said their exact words were "Like Oh My God! I wouldn't be caught dead driving that thing to school!" For some odd reason, I feel insanely proud! =) MY BABY IS UGLY! LOL But hey, it got their attention, didn't it? =) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 13:14:18 -0800 From: Jason Derra Subject: Re: Personal posts, lets take a vote Agreeded wholeheartedly!!! All of the lists that I am on are very people oriented. Isn't this list about 61-79 Fords and the PEOPLE who own and love them? I am on this list not only to talk, listen and learn a little bit about Fords, but to meet new friends that have the same interests as myself. If you don't want to read about, just delete it, and move on. How hard can it be? Take care, Gary. Jason Don wrote: > While I don't post to the list very regularly, I have been on this list , I > think, since it's beginning or very close. While there have been alot of > times that the traffic has grown so much that I have done mass deletes I > have learned that purely technical posts are not, IMHO, what lists are made > of. Whats even more unbelieveable is that a member who posts a great amount > of tech info and answers many questions, posts a note of a personal nature > associated with anxiety, and gets a reply like that below, just boggles my > mind. > I would hope that while we learn about Ford trucks on this list,we also > learn to have a little compassion for those people that comprise this list > and are having a rough time > Take care Gary,Thanks for the info you have provided this list and that > which you will continue to give, that others may benefit. > God Bless > Don > 78 F250 4X4 FORD TRUCK > PS, THANKS to Ken for starting and devoting so much energy to make this > list possible! > > >To: <61-79-list ford-trucks.com>> >Sent: Friday, March 10, 2000 8:56 PM > >Subject: [61-79-list] Re: Update on my situation :-) > > > > > > > I'm sorry--I don't see one word about a Ford Truck in that message. > > ========================================================== > To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ford-trucks.com with> the words "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the subject of the > message. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 13:22:31 -0800 From: Scott grossen Subject: galvanized metal cleaner Folks, What works to clean up the galvanized inner fenders and make them look new again? I went after mine with diesel/gas/lacquer thinner and managed to remove all the undercoating, overspray, grease, melted ignition module potting, etc. But they still look like an old Gleaner combine abandoned out in the grove for 50 years. Some sort of acid? i used that CLR that they advertise on tv, it doesnt look like it works, but after about the 4th time you wash the fenders with it it really starts to clean them up. you need to keep it off of the other steel parts, and when your done make sure that you wash it thouroughly with clean water, a hose works well. i did mine when the whole front clip was on the grond off the truck so i dont know how hard it will be to get around the engine. the more grease you clean off first the better it works. if you are patient, you can get them to look like brand new ive done this with both bodys on my truck and been very pleased with the results, in retrospect i think i should have just painted them though because they just get dirty again. ------------------------------ From: am14 daimlerchrysler.comSubject: Traveling 5th wheel style Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 14:24:23 -0500 Greg Chalmers writes: >>A local company is looking for pick up owners to haul a variety of sized travel trailers to various locations in Canada and the U.S.I need some general input on a reasonable set up to allow for towing camper trailers with a 5th wheel set up. > With a 1 ton diesel dually in the neighbourhood of $50,000 Canadian > (tax included) I can't help concidering the option of building a truck capable of the task for a lot less. > I have access to all sorts of parts trucks and motors although I haven't concidered anything other than a 460 which I am looking for an excuse to build. > As I will be starting from scratch I thought I'd begin with your always excellent and insightful opinions and suggestions as to motor > modifications, tranny options, rear end gear ratios and any other > relevant experiences and comments on such a project. > ( I must confess that one significant motivation for concidering this > project at all is that I have driven long haul tractor trailer for GM > parts in Oshawa Ont. to and from Athens Ala.and Laredo Texas and am sick and tired of having to look at 73-79 Ford pickups knowing I have no way to get these beauties back home. This new opportunity allows me to head back home with nothing in tow but rustfree body parts and access to > wrecking yards all across the country. Feels like a bit of heaven to > this farmer/ford fanatic).<< Sounds like a very good plan to me. Wasn't it Smith of the "A" team that just loved it when a plan came together??? I won't suggest anything for your tow vehicle. That is according to what you are looking for, and your personal taste. With gas prices headed the way the current trend is, you may want to reconsider your options, anyway. Athens, Al. is only 15 miles from me. The County seat of Limestone Co. Al. Come by and see me next time you get down!! Besides being a Ford truck fan, I too, am an old farmer. Azie Magnusson Ardmore, Al ------------------------------ From: Rubberducky23 webtv.net (Danny Ling)Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 18:25:01 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: NP 205's don't forget that NP 205's came married (bolted to trans) and divorced (driveshaft running between trans and T case). mine in my 77 F250 is divorced. with a divorced transfer case you have the ability to lower the transfer case alone to give a little relief to steep driveshafts going to the axles. I had to do this with my Samurai after I did a spring over axle conversion which netted a total of 7" of lift. (Samurai's came with divorced T case too) The best way to identify NP 205's that I know of (some of these have already been touched) NP 205's are completely cast iron, have a PTO cover mounted high on the side of the T case near where the rear output shaft exits, and also when viewed from the rear they have a small round plate about 3" in diameter with 3 bolts holding it down located right in the middle of the rear of the T case below the rear output shaft and above the large round plate behind the front output shaft. This small 3 bolt plate secured the idler for the fully gear drive T case. (there is only a few different gear drive transfer case models made since the 60's) vast majority of modern transfer cases are chain driven including the NP 203. I hope this helps a little.. Laters, Danny Ling ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 17:41:45 -0800 From: Jason Derra Subject: Re: NP 205 '79's could have either the 203 (full time) or the 205 (part time). The 208 was never factory offered in 79. Look at your shifter. If it just has (going forward from the seat) 4hi, 2hi, N, 4lo it is the 205. If it has any positions with loc on them, it is the 203. This is assuming that it has the original knob on it. Another way is to look for a 1 1/2" (approx) round cover on the back of the transfer case near the rear output shaft with 3 bolts holding it on. This would be a 205. Jason Bob Weaver wrote: > Dear All, > > How do I find out which Transfer case I have? I've heard that the NP205 > sits about 3 inches farther forward than the NP208, is that true? I'm > assuming I have the NP208 and would like to swap in the 205 so I can > clear the front cross member on my 79 Bronco (because the front drive > shaft hits the member). I'm also interested in a rebuild kit for the > NP205 because I'm planning on purchasing it used. Would anyone know > where to get one? > > Thanks, > Bob > ========================================================== > To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ford-trucks.com with> the words "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the subject of the > message. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2000 18:29:52 -0800 From: scott Subject: Electrical Problem While trying to diagnose the poor performance of my 76,I discovered that I have 12 volts at the battery,but with the ignition in the "run"position I only have about 5 volts at starter solenoid, "high" side of ballast resistor etc. I'm thinking bad ignition switch,any other ideas? ------------------------------ End of 61-79-list Digest V2000 #38 ********************************** ---------------------------------------------------------- Ford Truck Enthusiasts 1961-1979 Truck Mailing List Send posts to 61-79-list ford-trucks.comIf you ever want to remove yourself from this mailing list, send an email to: listar ford-trucks.comwith the words "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the subject of the message. 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