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Received: with LISTAR (v0.128a; list 61-79-list); Sun, 12 Mar 2000 20:38:41 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 20:38:41 -0500 (EST) From: Ford Truck Enthusiasts List Server To: 61-79-list digest users Reply-to: 61-79-list  ford-trucks.com Subject: 61-79-list Digest V2000 #36 Precedence: bulk ========================================================== Ford Truck Enthusiasts 1961-1979 Truck Mailing List Visit our web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ford-trucks.com with the words "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the subject of the message. ========================================================== ------------------------------------ 61-79-list Digest Sat, 11 Mar 2000 Volume: 2000 Issue: 036 In This Issue: Pigeon Forge personal posts (marginal FTE content) Re: Update on my situation :-) Re: Let's Give Big Hand For (Gary) Free 73-79 Parts Sacramento Area, Gary! Re: Update on my situation :-) Re: Personal posts, lets take a vote Re: new website address Re: Pigeon Forge F-350 weight Re: Personal posts, lets take a vote 76 Truck wiring diagram -------- my truck's web site ----------- Front Suspension Problem - 69 2WD 390 0r 352? Re: The VOTE! Re: 390 0r 352? Sanderson Headers NP 205 Parts wanted/for sale Re: 390 0r 352? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 19:26:25 -0500 From: Garry Bowling Subject: Pigeon Forge How many folks out there are planning to attend the supernats this year? Ken, Are you planning a booth this year? Please email me with some info as to where you guys plan to set up. I plan to arrive there on the Thursday morning of the show. Garry Bowling 1967 F100 ------------------------------ From: "Redden" Subject: personal posts (marginal FTE content) Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 20:26:25 -0500 Hi ya'll: Been on and off (mostly on) the list for a couple years now. I'm mainly a lurker unless I can ask dumb questions or help someone answer theirs. I really enjoy hearing about the "personal stuff"! The individuals that are here answering our questions are taking a personal interest in us by doing so. Having lived in different parts of the country I don't really have "roots", as such. People provide that anchor for me. People with common interests make life even more fun! In the years I've been on the net, I've run into great people all over the world. I may not always get real personal on lists but that doesn't mean that I don't feel a real connection with folks. (I'm hoping to actually meet some of you whenever possible, one of these days.) Thanks for being around this corner of cyberspace! Mike in PA ------------------------------ From: "Bill Deacon" Subject: Re: Update on my situation :-) Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 17:54:27 -0800 Absolutely cold hearted ---Do me a favor Tim and buy a Chevy. Subject: Re: Update on my situation :-) Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 23:56:48 -0500 I'm sorry--I don't see one word about a Ford Truck in that message. ------------------------------ From: SHill48337 aol.com Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 21:33:06 EST Subject: Re: Let's Give Big Hand For (Gary) In a message dated 3/11/00 6:51:16 PM Eastern Standard Time, gpeters3 lni.net writes: << Well, I appreciate all the support from the gang. Of course my name is actually Gary but I know what you meant so I'm just funnin ya :-) >> Sorry, I have been battling dyslexia all my life and let that one slip by. Looked to me like it said Gary. Good Luck Burt Hill ------------------------------ From: "Carver" Subject: Free 73-79 Parts Sacramento Area, Gary! Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 18:59:56 -0800 Not mine, but I found this in the Auburn Penny Power: Free '73-'79 Misc Ford Truck Parts, interior/exterior MUST TAKE ALL, Pager, leave message 650-299-5868 Auburn is 20 miles east of Sacramento, CA. Also, not a truck, but in the right year range! '67 Mercury Caliente 4 door sedan 289 V8 90K mi $1200 530-477-1393 This prefix is usually in the Penn Valley area, closer to Grass Valley, 30 miles east of Sacramento, CA. I personally never heard of such a model and I'm too lazy to do a 'net search right now, maybe later. Gary - I didn't want to put in a separate post, but hope you get your life together Gary. My best to your family too, for they also are having to adjust to you too. Been through something similar, from the other side. Since we are on this subject, I feel Gary's post was fine, appropriate, and he include FTE content. The responses should be kept to pmail or mushed in with real FTE content. Jeff '64 F100 CrewCab ------------------------------ From: WEDIVE247 aol.comDate: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 00:05:27 EST Subject: Re: Update on my situation :-) In a message dated 3/10/2000 11:52:45 PM EST, tim-pam williams-net.com writes:<< I'm sorry--I don't see one word about a Ford Truck in that message. >> AMEN !!!! ------------------------------ From: WEDIVE247 aol.comDate: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 00:13:04 EST Subject: Re: Personal posts, lets take a vote In a message dated 3/11/2000 11:36:59 AM EST, donr nidlink.com writes:<< While I don't post to the list very regularly, I have been on this list , I think, since it's beginning or very close. While there have been alot of times that the traffic has grown so much that I have done mass deletes I have learned that purely technical posts are not, IMHO, what lists are made of. Whats even more unbelieveable is that a member who posts a great amount of tech info and answers many questions, posts a note of a personal nature associated with anxiety, and gets a reply like that below, just boggles my mind. I would hope that while we learn about Ford trucks on this list,we also learn to have a little compassion for those people that comprise this list and are having a rough time Take care Gary,Thanks for the info you have provided this list and that which you will continue to give, that others may benefit. >> i don't wish ill will to anyone , and I'm glad to hear he's ok but once again the topic still stands : " 61-79-list " as in ford trucks ! Lets leave the soap opheras for day time tv ... ------------------------------ From: WEDIVE247 aol.comDate: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 00:20:36 EST Subject: Re: new website address In a message dated 3/11/2000 2:57:15 PM EST, nukegm ford-trucks.com writes:<< http://www.ford-trucks.com/~nukegm >> Cool web-sight Stu ...... ------------------------------ From: WEDIVE247 aol.comDate: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 00:24:02 EST Subject: Re: Pigeon Forge In a message dated 3/11/2000 7:27:17 PM EST, garrya bellsouth.net writes:<< How many folks out there are planning to attend the supernats this year? Ken, >> Hey Ken , Count us in for 3 and may-be 4 . ------------------------------ From: "Gary L. Perry" Subject: F-350 weight Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 00:46:30 -0500 Barron, without any real info in front of me I'm going to give my thougts? on weight of truck. First, the door VIN plate should have the GVW gross veh. weight) listed. Duallys usually 10,000 lbs. Single wheels less, maybe as low as 8,500 lbs. Truck probably weights near 5,000 or 5,800 itself. It won't be a "dump truck" if that's what you had in mind. Doesn't take much gravel, dirt or load of shingles or ? to be too much for a 1-ton. I have a 2-ton C***y that lists 16,000 gvw and have had 18,000 at scale even tho I couldn't take the full 5-yard bucket full from gravel-pit loader!!! My 2-ton wieghs 7200 with me and gas in it and empty. It's an old 54 vintage still hauling strong. Hope this rambling helps. "G" ------------------------------ From: "Hogan, Tom" Subject: Re: Personal posts, lets take a vote Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 04:55:25 -0800 (assuming best surfer dude voice and accent) Duuuuuude! Talk about your bad carrrrma! These bogus vibes are totaly heinous to be pervading our radical rollers here. See ya Tom H. ------------------------------ From: "Hogan, Tom" Subject: 76 Truck wiring diagram Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 04:55:28 -0800 (Assuming soccer (football for those of you not in the US) anouncer's voice) Scooooooooooooooooooooooooooore!!!! (hands up in the air with victory sign) Scooooooooooooooooooooooooooore!!!! I just took delivery of a 1976 Ford truck wiring diagram! (happy dance) It's in good condition and covers bronco, F series truck, courrier and a few others. Tony, thanks for your offer but now that I have a set I'll be fine. I picked it up from E-bay. Your just have to keep your eye open on that page and look for what you want. Laters Tom H. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 05:22:28 -0800 (PST) From: damon obrien Subject: -------- my truck's web site ----------- hi list members I just put together this small site of my truck. Let me know what you think? http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.fortunecity.co.uk/pitstop/offroad/35/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: "InkDezJim" Subject: Front Suspension Problem - 69 2WD Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 10:11:34 -0600 I have a question/topic for the list's venerable wisdom. While redoing my 69 F-100 2WD I am examining a point of concern in the front suspension. On the passenger's side, there is a formed steel bracket that is carries the pivot bolt for the end of the driver's side I-beam. The top of that bracket has two rivets holding it to the back of the main front crossmember, and one holding it to the back of the boxed front section of the front cross-member. Last year when replacing bushings/doing a disc-brake conversion, I found that bracket was loose, and that one of the rear rivets was very loose, the hole being wallowed out some, allowing it to move back and forth pivoting on the other rear and the front rivet. I ground the rivet head off and installed a 1/2-inch grade 8 bolt in its place. While I am have the truck stripped down I was cleaning the front suspension today and noted that it appears to me (judging by marks in the paint I applied last year) that that bracket has shifted location inward about 1/16th of an inch. I tend to doubt that it is reapeatedly flexing because surface does not look like it has been subjected to constant wearing movement. I am a bit concerned about securing this bracket once and for all. My first thoughts are to disconnect the I-beam, locate it as near to where I can determine it should be, and tack-weld it in place. Is this a common problem in these trucks? Looking at the mount for the other I-beam's mount, it is all attached to the boxed section of the front cross-member which will overall provide a beefier attachment point(s). Has anyone else had a similar problem and can they offer any advice from experience? Right now is the time for me to do this fix if I am going to do anything. FWIW given this AM's experience, I would advise anyone to check out the inside of the boxed front section of the front cross-member and make sure it is clean and free of crud, debris, road refuse, small dead critters, etc. I was amazed at how much packed in dirt, rocks, leaves, oil and grunge there was in mine. I spent about 2 hours with compressed air, screwdrivers, prybars, carb cleaner, etc. getting all the muck out of mine. Jim E. Nashville 69 F-100 Explorer ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 09:27:22 -0700 From: "matthew i montoya" Subject: 390 0r 352? I have a big block ford 352 or 390, hope it is a 390. Pulled numbers off of the side of block; 6G21N, not raised numbers but stamped. Would like to identify without pulling heads or oil pan. Engine pulled out of a 1967 F-250; original engine had C7 on intake 67??. Is there a way to identify engine by truck vin if numbers on block do not work. First time to use list hope I am doing it right. Matt MailCity. Secure Email Anywhere, Anytime! http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.mailcity.com ------------------------------ From: BanksRVA aol.comDate: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 11:48:32 EST Subject: Re: The VOTE! Go Gary!!! ------------------------------ From: "Jason & Kathy Kendrick" Subject: Re: 390 0r 352? Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 13:25:48 -0600 Matt, look on the passenger side of the block towards the front of the engine for the raised casting numbers. Also, just below the oil filter adapter on the block, is a three or four digit code, much like the one you gave in your origimal post. Also, look between the middle two spark plugs on the heads for the head casting number. 6G21N looks like a date code. 6=1966. G=July. 21=21st day of the month. N=in plant control number. Your block was probably produced on July 21, 1966. While casting numbers can give you an educated guess as to what engine you have, it's still only a guess untill you pull the oil pan get to the crank casting number, or the head to get the bore and stroke. The vin code will tell you what the truck originally had from the factory, and if you're positive the engine has never been swapped, should be accurate. Jason Kendrick Subject: [61-79-list] 390 0r 352? Pulled numbers off of the side of block; 6G21N, not raised numbers but stamped. >Would like to identify without pulling heads or oil pan. Engine pulled out of a 1967 F-250; original engine had C7 on intake 67??. Is there a way to identify engine by truck vin if numbers on block do not work. Matt ------------------------------ From: "Jason & Kathy Kendrick" Subject: Sanderson Headers Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 15:11:00 -0600 Could anyone give me the link to the Sanderson Headers web page? Thanks, Jason ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 16:20:56 -0500 From: Bob Weaver Subject: NP 205 Dear All, How do I find out which Transfer case I have? I've heard that the NP205 sits about 3 inches farther forward than the NP208, is that true? I'm assuming I have the NP208 and would like to swap in the 205 so I can clear the front cross member on my 79 Bronco (because the front drive shaft hits the member). I'm also interested in a rebuild kit for the NP205 because I'm planning on purchasing it used. Would anyone know where to get one? Thanks, Bob ------------------------------ From: "Jason & Kathy Kendrick" Subject: Parts wanted/for sale Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 17:20:41 -0600 I'm looking for a good 390 or 428 crank and wanting to sell or trade a 289 shortblock and a 2T 360 crank. The 289 spins over, but I don't know what shape the crank is in. I have the heads, also. They are off the block and have been checked for cracks. The heads have been tore apart and heavily ported on the exhaust side. I have the valves and springs, but no studs. The 360 crank looks like it's in good shape, mabye a .010 clean-up cut, or mabye just a good polish. Make an offer! Jason Kendrick ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 18:40:01 -0700 From: "Matt" Subject: Re: 390 0r 352? Jason, thanks for the info. I found all of the numbers you spoke of. Casting numbers on passenger side of the block C6ME-A, (I have a 390 block on a stand that I compared the numbers to, it has a C6ME, without the "A"). Numbers under the oil filter adapter are CF25, and Right Bank heads C6AE-R and Left Bank 6080R. Also Vin on truck C7TE9425E. Does an "S" raised number on a 4V mean anything. Is there a book out there that I could learn to identify Ford numbers/codes? Thanks for the help. Matt -- On Sun, 12 Mar 2000 09:27:22 matthew i montoya wrote: >I have a big block ford 352 or 390, hope it is a 390. Pulled numbers off of the side of block; 6G21N, not raised numbers but stamped. >Would like to identify without pulling heads or oil pan. Engine pulled out of a 1967 F-250; original engine had C7 on intake 67??. Is there a way to identify engine by truck vin if numbers on block do not work. First time to use list hope I am doing it right. Matt > > >MailCity. Secure Email Anywhere, Anytime! >http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.mailcity.com >========================================================== >To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ford-trucks.com with>the words "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the subject of the >message. > > MailCity. Secure Email Anywhere, Anytime! http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.mailcity.com ------------------------------ End of 61-79-list Digest V2000 #36 ********************************** ---------------------------------------------------------- Ford Truck Enthusiasts 1961-1979 Truck Mailing List Send posts to 61-79-list ford-trucks.comIf you ever want to remove yourself from this mailing list, send an email to: listar ford-trucks.comwith the words "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the subject of the message. Visit Our Web Site: http://www.ford-trucks.com ---------------------------------------------------------- .... 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