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61-79-list Digest Thu, 09 Mar 2000 Volume: 2000 Issue: 034

In This Issue:
Re: Old Ford Junkyard in Seguin, TX
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Re: C6 or FMX Bellhousing Clarification
Re: 351C Firing Order
Re: CATastrophe
Re: 351C Firing Order
Ford Kills
ADMIN: Archives online, this time for real!
Re: John's Salvage in Seguin
REAR END SWAP!!!
Re: REAR END SWAP!!!
Re: 460 Exhaust (round 2)!
Sanderson Letter: FE Shorty Questions/Feedback
Gear Vendors OD
Old Ford Junkyard in Sequin, Texas

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Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2000 16:11:28 -0600
From: "Howard Bottles" austin.ppdi.com>
Subject: Re: Old Ford Junkyard in Seguin, TX

That sounds like John's wrecking yard, and I think he is off of hwy 123 out of
Seguin.

Eckert Bros Wrecking Yard in Stonewall, Tx off of US 290 has many older Fords in
their yard also.

Howardb

Michael Ray Jones wrote:

> Several months ago (or more) there was some talk about a junkyard in Seguin,
> TX (near San Antonio) that specialized in Old Ford Trucks. Does anybody
> know the name of the place? I'm going there for spring break next week and
> want to check it out!
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Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2000 18:32:18 -0500
From: bill poudrier ma.ultranet.com>
Subject: Re: C6 or FMX Bellhousing Clarification

Yes they did bolt an FMX to a 400. It was in the 1973 LTD and
only for that year. It had the small block bell housing all other
400's and 351M's use the 460 style.

At 02:46 PM 3/8/00 -0500, Serian wrote:
>> Then Wish chimed in:
>> >If it bolts to a 400 it'll bolt to a 460 ...
>>
>> Then John added:
>> >I don't think the FMX was ever attached
>> >to a 400 as in the 351m/400 family.
>
>Well, guys ... I have a 1976 Ford LTD in my yard that has a
>351M bolted up to a FMX ... I dont know if Ford ever bolted
>a FMX to a 400 in the factory, but they sure as heck put 'em
>on the 351M.
>
>> Yo Paul & Wish & John:
>>
>> If the tranny is actually an FMX (a big "if"), then it will not bolt to a
>460.
>
>If that FMX is like the one in my LTD, it will ...
>
>> The FMX was offered w/ the 400 in the 1973 model year in some
>> Torinos and Montegos (and possibly in Rancheros), and that 400
>> is the somewhat rare small-block bolt pattern 400 (block casting
>> #D3AE-B). That 400 block used the same bell housing bolt pattern
>> as the 351C and small-block Fords (289/302/351W).
>
>The FMX also appeared on later model Montego (75-76), Torino,
>LTD (75-76), and Thunderbird (77-79) bolted to the 302, 351W
>and 351M engines.
>
>> The 385 series engines (429/460) were never equipped with the
>> FMX from the factory.
>
>This makes sense, as the FMX was not as heavy duty as the C6, and
>the 429/460 series can put out a lot of power.
>
>> As I understand it, a sure way to ID the FMX is by its cast iron case.
>> The C6 has an aluminum case.
>
>The FMX has 3 main visible from the outside parts:
>Cast aluminum bellhousing, which is removable by taking out 4 bolts
>Cast iron main housing which contains the working guts of the transmission
>Cast aluminum tail housing.
>
>The C6 has an integrated bellhousing and main guts case, and it is all
>made of aluminum.
>
>A FMX transmission *could* theoretically be bolted to a 429 or 460
>if it uses the 351M bellhousing, but I don't see why anyone would want
>to do that ...
>
>
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Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2000 18:51:07 -0500
From: bill poudrier ma.ultranet.com>
Subject: Re: 351C Firing Order

In 1979 they didn't, they stopped in 1974. From 1975 to at least
1979 maybe later(1982???) they used the 351M. You can't tell the
351M and the 400 apart if the tag is missing. The only difference
between them is the crank and pistons.

I have a nice clean 1979 ranger XLT with a 351M and a lot of miles
but a very clean truck with air. I plan on taking out the 351M and
inserting a 400 hopefully this summer. I can't find pistons except
dished 0nes to save my soul. I want to raise the compression as
7.9:1 sucks. I can use Aussie cleveland heads but there is anoter
$500 just for bare ones. Anyone on the list have any wisdom?
Please please befor you start, don't say get a 460. I know it fits
but I want to keep it looking stock 8*).

At 06:48 PM 3/8/00 -0800, Mike Pacheco wrote:
>I'll agree with that, humm a 79 with a 351C... didn't know they put them
>in a truck... is this true? or has this engine been switched like mine?
>Mike in Burien
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From: "Bill Deacon" surfside.net>
Subject: Re: CATastrophe
Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2000 16:21:43 -0800

You can't swing a dead cat around Sealy without hitting one of my
relatives

Better be careful! Remember the butt chewing I got a few posts back?


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From: "Bill Beyer" pacifier.com>
Subject: Re: 351C Firing Order
Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2000 17:10:31 -0800

Yep I got some flat top 9:1 pistons from Ohio Piston & Pin P/N 1282P. They
are cast with .010 destroke to make up for milling of the heads or block.
You should be able to order them thru your local machine shop. I got mine
from a guy in Minn who wil have them drop shipped to you and charge you
jobber prices. I saved about $4 a piston even with shipping costs. You can
reach him at 1-888-TMEYER INC or by email: tmeyer frontiernet.net


"If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, riddle them with bullets"

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From: bill poudrier ma.ultranet.com>
To: <61-79-list ford-trucks.com>; <61-79-list ford-trucks.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2000 3:51 PM
Subject: [61-79-list] Re: 351C Firing Order


>
> I have a nice clean 1979 ranger XLT with a 351M and a lot of miles
> but a very clean truck with air. I plan on taking out the 351M and
> inserting a 400 hopefully this summer. I can't find pistons except
> dished 0nes to save my soul. I want to raise the compression as
> 7.9:1 sucks. I can use Aussie cleveland heads but there is anoter
> $500 just for bare ones. Anyone on the list have any wisdom?
> Please please befor you start, don't say get a 460. I know it fits
> but I want to keep it looking stock 8*).




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From: borrani att.net
Subject: Ford Kills
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 01:27:21 +0000

Either way, that is an 1/8 mile drag we're watching,
right? Isn't it true in 1/8 mile drags there is no
staging, the light just does a quick yellow, then
green.

Both vehicles hit their brakes at nearly the same time.
The GM car was catching him, but the Ford was much
quicker off the line. It looks to me like the GM was
giving it all it had.

Steve S.
Seattle, WA
'75 F-250 SuperCab 460

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Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2000 21:41:36 -0500
From: Ken Payne ford-trucks.com>
Subject: ADMIN: Archives online, this time for real!

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Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2000 21:16:30 -0600
Subject: Re: John's Salvage in Seguin
From: Brett L Habben juno.com>

Michael,
South side of San Antonio is a great place to go junkyarding. But you're
more likely to hit paydirt at John's.
John's Salvage Co.
2020 Fox Trotter Road
Seguin, Texas
1-800-397-9648
830-379-2092
Head south out of town on 123 a couple of miles. Look for a sign along
the highway. Take a left off 123 and wind down Fox Trotter Road. And ya
he has a ton of ford's. Wear boots.
Brett
Super75cab
PS. What happened to S. Padre?
>Several months ago (or more) there was some talk about a junkyard in
Seguin,
>TX (near San Antonio) that specialized in Old Ford Trucks. Does
anybody
>know the name of the place? I'm going there for spring break next week
and
>want to check it out!
>From: "Michael Ray Jones" lcc.net>

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From: prozell oaielectronics.com (OAI Electronics: Paul Rozell)
Subject: REAR END SWAP!!!
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 07:35:07 -0600

Hi All,
I am wondering if anyone on the list has swapped out the rear end on a 65
F100. I have obtained a 31 spline 9" from a 70's model truck. I pulled my
rear end out last night only to find that the new rear end is wider and the
spring perches are not located the same!!!! One of those things I should
have checked first. Oh well hind sight is allways 20/20. Any information
would be highly appreciated. Will this rear end work at all? I have heard
that the 31 spline is the better of the rear ends, the original rear end in
the truck is a 28 spline.

Help please!!!!
Paul Rozell
65 F100 460 C6(no rear end!!)


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From: "William S. Hart" iastate.edu>
Subject: Re: REAR END SWAP!!!
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 08:24:36 -0600

> Will this rear end work at all? I have heard
> that the 31 spline is the better of the rear ends, the original
> rear end in
> the truck is a 28 spline.
>

I would think you just need to find/get/have made some shorter axles now and
put the center section in place of the old one, then you can keep your
housing with the spring perches and all and get the 31spline diff in there
...

I don't suppose that 28 spline is a posi you're lookin to get rid of ??? ;)

Just my $.02
wish

96 Mustang GT 5spd 4.6L
73ish 1/2ton 4x4 6.4L
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish


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Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 08:46:05 -0600
Subject: Re: 460 Exhaust (round 2)!
From: "John LaGrone" ford-trucks.com>

> Okay John?

Yes sir!!! That should work.

Uhoh. Hey, get away from my exhaust system with that piece of pipe. Yeah,
you with the torch.....

-- John
jlagrone ford-trucks.com <]:-) <]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)
1979 F150 Custom, Long Wide Bed, Regular Cab, 351M, C6 (Henry)
http://www.ford-trucks.com/jlagrone/henry.home.htm
Dearborn iron rules!!!!


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From: BDIJXS aol.com
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 11:48:36 EST
Subject: Sanderson Letter: FE Shorty Questions/Feedback

Hello Sanderson,

OK, I recently purchased a set of the FF 427 shorties for my 428 in a 1969
F-100 Ford 4x4. Overall, I want first say your product is quite outstanding
and I'm very happy with them. However, I would like to offer you the
following feedback since I will purchasing another set this year, this time
for a 1976 F-250 highboy with another FE engine.

1) In order to install the passenger side headers, I had to "dent" in the
side of the collector to clear the oil pan flange. I'm wondering if maybe you
used a bare FE block with cylinder heads but with no oil pan attached to make
your original prototypes. Either way, the passenger side collector exit
location should be moved about 1/2" out (away from block) from where it
currently is in order to clear the pan flange.

2) I originally used the "silicone only" approach for installation, and the
flanges leaked in a few places. I removed and then re-installed the units,
this time with a set of copper exhaust gaskets. The one problem I ran into
was that several of the welds around the inside of the flange (the "seating"
area that is ground flat to meet and seal around the exhaust port on the
head) did not "line up" with the bead on the gaskets. Therefore, I had to
completely cut up the gaskets and mate them to the headers first with
silicone so they lined up properly before I could install them. I even had to
cut the flanges on the gaskets where the holes are to accept the exhaust
bolts. The simple cure to this problem would be to simply run another bead of
weld around the flange before grinding them flat. This will give a larger
sealing surface and should allow the gaskets to seal without all of the
custom trimming.

3) In the instructions, you may want to recommend that the new exhaust system
installer use two collector flanges on the pipe end (just like you do on the
collector) along with the new "dead soft" aluminum collector gaskets. The
paper gaskets are simply garbage and don't ever work. The other
recommendation I would make in the instructions is to use studs in place of
the bolts. This system works very well. By the way, for this model at least,
the studs for the 3rd cylinder back on either side need to be cut in order to
clear the tubing, but this is no big deal.

For the first time in 20 years of using exhaust headers, they don't leak. I
can hardly believe it!

I would appreciate hearing from you on the above suggestions and to see if
anyone else has run into these same difficulties. I am a member of a "61-79
Ford Truck Enthusiast List" and your products are discussed there quite
regularly (61-79-list ford-trucks.com). I will be posting this letter to this
list as these are the exact types of topics discussed there.

Thank you for your time and consideration,

Sincerely,

Jeff Schulz (Colorado Jeff)
bdijxs aol.com




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From: am14 daimlerchrysler.com
Subject: Gear Vendors OD
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 11:53:44 -0500

David Cole writes: >> He bought a used Gear Vendors overdrive for it
recently, but it turns out it is bad and Gear Vendors wants $1500 + for a
rebuild, plus shipping round trip. Alabama to California. Not cheap.<<

What part of Bama is this OD unit located?? I want to see one, even if it
is not in working order. I might even be interested in purchasing it -
knowing it is gonna be VERY expensive to repair.

Azie Magnusson
Ardmore, Al
(on the Tn. State line, 2 miles East of I65)



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Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 18:50:28 -0800
From: "O'Connor" ....


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