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Received: with LISTAR (v0.128a; list 61-79-list); Thu, 09 Mar 2000 17:06:53 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2000 17:06:53 -0500 (EST) From: Ford Truck Enthusiasts List Server To: 61-79-list digest users Reply-to: 61-79-list  ford-trucks.com Subject: 61-79-list Digest V2000 #33 Precedence: bulk ========================================================== Ford Truck Enthusiasts 1961-1979 Truck Mailing List Visit our web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ford-trucks.com with the words "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the subject of the message. ========================================================== ------------------------------------ 61-79-list Digest Wed, 08 Mar 2000 Volume: 2000 Issue: 033 In This Issue: Ford Truck Kills - the investigation begins Re: Ford Truck Kills F-150 bumpers Re: Ford Truck Kills - the investigation begins Re: Ford Truck Kills Re: C6 or FMX Bellhousing Clarification Re: Ford Truck Kills Re: Sanderson FE Shorty Headers Update Win or LOSE??? Re: Win or LOSE??? Re: Win or LOSE??? Re: Win or LOSE??? Re: Win or LOSE??? Re: Win or LOSE??? Re: Ford Truck Kills Re: Ford Truck Kills Re: Ford Truck Kills Bolt together boxes? Ford Truck Kills Re: 460 Exhaust (round 2)! 351C Firing Order Re: 351C Firing Order Re: 351C Firing Order Re: 351C Firing Order Re: 351C Firing Order Re: 351C Firing Order Re: Carb woes Re: 351C Firing Order Any 73-79 Shortbed 2x4's alive? Re: 351C Firing Order ADMIN: 3 Ford Press Releases T-18 to 5 speed?? Re: Where are you? Re: That sounds like a '61 Ford Bronco Dash Replacement Re: sanderson headers Ford Dealer woes. Found new source of steering slop. Re: 400 intake manifold Re: 460 Exhaust (round 2)! C6's not all equal Re: Ford Dealer Woes No more alternators and 42V systems Old Ford Junkyard in Seguin, TX Re: Old Ford Junkyard in Seguin, TX ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 13:05:00 -0600 From: John Strauss Subject: Ford Truck Kills - the investigation begins You can't swing a dead cat around Sealy without hitting one of my relatives so I will see what I can turn up about the Ford truck in question. If it is a local guy I can probably run it down but it may take a while - almost nobody there has email. _ _| ~~. John Strauss \, *_} jstrauss inetport.com \( Texas Fight! ------------------------------ From: "Southerland, Rich" Subject: Re: Ford Truck Kills Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 11:12:47 -0800 At least the "Green Ford Truck" vs. "Gumby" appeared to be close... "Uncle Jessy" vs. The Firebird wasn't even close. I don't care if that even was a V6 (which is rated over 200hp), that was embarassing! If that was my car, (not that I'd buy one in the first place) I'd be tempted to give it the same treatment as the previously mentioned pit-diving Tempo! I just LMAO watching that! ------------------------------ From: "Harvey, Blaine" Subject: F-150 bumpers Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 14:27:42 -0500 In Canada, bumpers are readily available from body parts houses. I know because I have priced the same bumper for my '79. About $250 Canadian, which means a lot less in US greenbacks. You can bet if they are available here that easy, there will be no problem stateside. > Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 15:59:39 -0500 > From: "Christopher J. Phillips" > Subject: Re: Help with new bumper front 1979 F150 supercab > > I need a resource to find a new front bumper 1979 F150 > > Still new to this I went to replace the front break pads it was getting > late in the evening so stooped before I got to far how do you remove the > old style break shoe from the front wheel. Remove 9/16 bolt from lower > left? What are the wedges on the lower front side of the wheel? > ------------------------------ From: "William S. Hart" Subject: Re: Ford Truck Kills - the investigation begins Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 13:18:31 -0600 > You can't swing a dead cat around Sealy without hitting one of my > relatives Uhm, and with phrasing like that I'll take your word for it ;) I'll have to remember that one it could come in handy later :) > so I will see what I can turn up about the Ford truck in question. If it > is a local guy I can probably run it down but it may take a while - almost > nobody there has email. That's fine, I'm in no rush, just curious ... thans! Just my $.02 wish 96 Mustang GT 5spd 4.6L 73ish 1/2ton 4x4 6.4L http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish ------------------------------ From: tfreeman murphyfarms.com Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 14:43:49 -0500 Subject: Re: Ford Truck Kills I believe that p*ntiac was the Ram Air version from the looks of the hood. But in fairness to the p*ntiac, the truck did red light. But.....I still think that truck could have taken him. -Ted At least the "Green Ford Truck" vs. "Gumby" appeared to be close... "Uncle Jessy" vs. The Firebird wasn't even close. I don't care if that even was a V6 (which is rated over 200hp), that was embarassing! If that was my car, (not that I'd buy one in the first place) I'd be tempted to give it the same treatment as the previously mentioned pit-diving Tempo! I just LMAO watching that! ------------------------------ From: "Serian" Subject: Re: C6 or FMX Bellhousing Clarification Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 14:46:12 -0500 > Then Wish chimed in: > >If it bolts to a 400 it'll bolt to a 460 ... > > Then John added: > >I don't think the FMX was ever attached > >to a 400 as in the 351m/400 family. Well, guys ... I have a 1976 Ford LTD in my yard that has a 351M bolted up to a FMX ... I dont know if Ford ever bolted a FMX to a 400 in the factory, but they sure as heck put 'em on the 351M. > Yo Paul & Wish & John: > > If the tranny is actually an FMX (a big "if"), then it will not bolt to a 460. If that FMX is like the one in my LTD, it will ... > The FMX was offered w/ the 400 in the 1973 model year in some > Torinos and Montegos (and possibly in Rancheros), and that 400 > is the somewhat rare small-block bolt pattern 400 (block casting > #D3AE-B). That 400 block used the same bell housing bolt pattern > as the 351C and small-block Fords (289/302/351W). The FMX also appeared on later model Montego (75-76), Torino, LTD (75-76), and Thunderbird (77-79) bolted to the 302, 351W and 351M engines. > The 385 series engines (429/460) were never equipped with the > FMX from the factory. This makes sense, as the FMX was not as heavy duty as the C6, and the 429/460 series can put out a lot of power. > As I understand it, a sure way to ID the FMX is by its cast iron case. > The C6 has an aluminum case. The FMX has 3 main visible from the outside parts: Cast aluminum bellhousing, which is removable by taking out 4 bolts Cast iron main housing which contains the working guts of the transmission Cast aluminum tail housing. The C6 has an integrated bellhousing and main guts case, and it is all made of aluminum. A FMX transmission *could* theoretically be bolted to a 429 or 460 if it uses the 351M bellhousing, but I don't see why anyone would want to do that ... ------------------------------ From: "Southerland, Rich" Subject: Re: Ford Truck Kills Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 11:53:32 -0800 Okay, that make sense now. I wondered why the P*ntiac hit the brakes near the end. Red light or not, that's still pretty damn funny! I remember going to the High School drags back in the early 80's. There was middle aged guy there bracket racing a '69 or '70 Mercury station wagon, complete with 10" slicks and wood paneling. It was the funniest damn thing to watch. This guy would have the wheel in one hand, a soda in the other and rip off 12 sec quarters consistently with that monster. Only saw the hood open briefly and the air cleaner lid said 429-4V. Other than that, I couldn't tell you anything about it other than it was really cool... -----Original Message----- From: tfreeman murphyfarms.com [mailto:tfreeman murphyfarms.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2000 11:44 AM To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com Subject: [61-79-list] Re: Ford Truck Kills I believe that p*ntiac was the Ram Air version from the looks of the hood. But in fairness to the p*ntiac, the truck did red light. But.....I still think that truck could have taken him. -Ted ------------------------------ From: "Alex Cook" Subject: Re: Sanderson FE Shorty Headers Update Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 20:04:45 GMT > > We'll see what they say...do you know if they have a web site so > > that I can provide them with some feedback? yes, they do: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.sandersonheaders.com/ Good luck, Alex. ______________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 12:09:55 -0800 (PST) From: "J. Allison" Subject: Win or LOSE??? > From: William S. Hart [mailto:wish iastate.edu] > Subject: [61-79-list] Ford Truck Kills > Hey I ran across this on the web ... > http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.rankinroad.com/03-05-00/UncleJessie-vs-BlackFirebird.mpg > And I was wondering if anyone knows anything about > the truck ... it's obviously not stock ... wish Gee... I hate to burst a few bubbles, but is it my imagination or did the Ford truck redlight?!? Looks that way to me. It could be that the Firebird driver simply didn't keep on it after checking the light. Many drivers save their car by not going all out after a red light... I don't! > From: "Moore, Jimmy" > Re: Ford Truck Kills - forgot Chevy vs Ford! > http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.rankinroad.com/03-05-00/Gumby-vs-GreenFordTruck.mpg > You forgot about this one! Another burst bubble? It looks to me like the chevy pulled ahead in the end and WON. Anybody? I'm not a Chevy fan but let's be realistic people! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: "Moore, Jimmy" Subject: Re: Win or LOSE??? Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 14:24:30 -0600 Ford trucks rule, and he didn't red light, and the chevy didn't pull out at the end. hehehe -----Original Message----- From: J. Allison [mailto:pssminatl yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2000 2:10 PM To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com Subject: [61-79-list] Win or LOSE??? > From: William S. Hart [mailto:wish iastate.edu] > Subject: [61-79-list] Ford Truck Kills > Hey I ran across this on the web ... > http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.rankinroad.com/03-05-00/UncleJessie-vs-BlackFirebird.mpg > And I was wondering if anyone knows anything about > the truck ... it's obviously not stock ... wish Gee... I hate to burst a few bubbles, but is it my imagination or did the Ford truck redlight?!? Looks that way to me. It could be that the Firebird driver simply didn't keep on it after checking the light. Many drivers save their car by not going all out after a red light... I don't! > From: "Moore, Jimmy" > Re: Ford Truck Kills - forgot Chevy vs Ford! > http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.rankinroad.com/03-05-00/Gumby-vs-GreenFordTruck.mpg > You forgot about this one! Another burst bubble? It looks to me like the chevy pulled ahead in the end and WON. Anybody? I'm not a Chevy fan but let's be realistic people! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://im.yahoo.com ========================================================== To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ford-trucks.com with the words "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the subject of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 14:38:36 -0600 Subject: Re: Win or LOSE??? From: "John LaGrone" >> From: William S. Hart [mailto:wish iastate.edu] >> Subject: [61-79-list] Ford Truck Kills > >> Hey I ran across this on the web ... >> > http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.rankinroad.com/03-05-00/UncleJessie-vs-BlackFirebird.mpg >> And I was wondering if anyone knows anything about >> the truck ... it's obviously not stock ... wish > > Gee... I hate to burst a few bubbles, but is it my > imagination or did the Ford truck redlight?!? Looks > that way to me. It could be that the Firebird driver > simply didn't keep on it after checking the light. > Many drivers save their car by not going all out after > a red light... I don't! > > >> From: "Moore, Jimmy" >> Re: Ford Truck Kills - forgot Chevy vs Ford! > >> > http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.rankinroad.com/03-05-00/Gumby-vs-GreenFordTruck.mpg > >> You forgot about this one! > > Another burst bubble? It looks to me like the chevy > pulled ahead in the end and WON. Anybody? I'm not a > Chevy fan but let's be realistic people! I looked at the movies frame by frame, full screen. The Christmas tree never went green in the black firebird race. Because of the angle I couldn't tell for sure about the chevy pickup race, but it looked to me like uncle jesse won that one. -- John jlagrone ford-trucks.com <]:-) <]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-) 1979 F150 Custom, Long Wide Bed, Regular Cab, 351M, C6 (Henry) http://www.ford-trucks.com/jlagrone/henry.home.htm Dearborn iron rules!!!! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 13:12:12 -0800 From: Clare Waterman-Storer Subject: Re: Win or LOSE??? you guys take all the fun out of it! John LaGrone wrote: > >> From: William S. Hart [mailto:wish iastate.edu] > >> Subject: [61-79-list] Ford Truck Kills > > > >> Hey I ran across this on the web ... > >> > > http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.rankinroad.com/03-05-00/UncleJessie-vs-BlackFirebird.mpg > >> And I was wondering if anyone knows anything about > >> the truck ... it's obviously not stock ... wish > > > > Gee... I hate to burst a few bubbles, but is it my > > imagination or did the Ford truck redlight?!? Looks > > that way to me. It could be that the Firebird driver > > simply didn't keep on it after checking the light. > > Many drivers save their car by not going all out after > > a red light... I don't! > > > > > >> From: "Moore, Jimmy" > >> Re: Ford Truck Kills - forgot Chevy vs Ford! > > > >> > > http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.rankinroad.com/03-05-00/Gumby-vs-GreenFordTruck.mpg > > > >> You forgot about this one! > > > > Another burst bubble? It looks to me like the chevy > > pulled ahead in the end and WON. Anybody? I'm not a > > Chevy fan but let's be realistic people! > > I looked at the movies frame by frame, full screen. The Christmas tree never > went green in the black firebird race. Because of the angle I couldn't tell > for sure about the chevy pickup race, but it looked to me like uncle jesse > won that one. > > -- John > jlagrone ford-trucks.com <]:-) <]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-) > 1979 F150 Custom, Long Wide Bed, Regular Cab, 351M, C6 (Henry) > http://www.ford-trucks.com/jlagrone/henry.home.htm > Dearborn iron rules!!!! > ========================================================== > To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ford-trucks.com with > the words "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the subject of the > message. -- Binary/unsupported file stripped by Listar -- -- Type: text/x-vcard -- File: waterman.vcf -- Desc: Card for Clare Waterman-Storer ------------------------------ From: "Southerland, Rich" Subject: Re: Win or LOSE??? Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 13:19:03 -0800 < > Then you'd no doubt agree that the driver of the C*evy looks an awful lot like The King of Rock and Roll! I found Elvis!!! He's drag racing in Texas! (I think I need a nap...) ------------------------------ From: tfreeman murphyfarms.com Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 16:21:45 -0500 Subject: Re: Win or LOSE??? With the f*rebird it was obvious the Ford Truck red lighted, but against the ch*vy truck......I think that ole Ford had him. -Ted you guys take all the fun out of it! John LaGrone wrote: > >> From: William S. Hart [mailto:wish iastate.edu] > >> Subject: [61-79-list] Ford Truck Kills > > > >> Hey I ran across this on the web ... > >> > > http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.rankinroad.com/03-05-00/UncleJessie-vs-BlackFirebird.mpg > >> And I was wondering if anyone knows anything about > >> the truck ... it's obviously not stock ... wish > > ------------------------------ From: "Luke Phillips" Subject: Re: Ford Truck Kills Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 16:08:16 CST Damn! I want my truck to run like uncle Jessies! Red light or not! Wonder what he's got under the hood??? Also, that old Ford could have given that GM product a 2 second head start and STILL would have won the race! Ford Trucks Forever!!! Luke Phillips 67 F100 shortbed 240 I6 (460 being built!) 98 Taurus SE >From: "Southerland, Rich" >Reply-To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com >To: "'61-79-list ford-trucks.com'" <61-79-list ford-trucks.com> >Subject: [61-79-list] Re: Ford Truck Kills >Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 11:53:32 -0800 > >Okay, that make sense now. I wondered why the P*ntiac hit the brakes near >the end. Red light or not, that's still pretty damn funny! > >I remember going to the High School drags back in the early 80's. There >was >middle aged guy there bracket racing a '69 or '70 Mercury station wagon, >complete with 10" slicks and wood paneling. > >It was the funniest damn thing to watch. This guy would have the wheel in >one hand, a soda in the other and rip off 12 sec quarters consistently with >that monster. Only saw the hood open briefly and the air cleaner lid said >429-4V. Other than that, I couldn't tell you anything about it other than >it was really cool... > >-----Original Message----- >From: tfreeman murphyfarms.com [mailto:tfreeman murphyfarms.com] >Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2000 11:44 AM >To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com >Subject: [61-79-list] Re: Ford Truck Kills > > >I believe that p*ntiac was the Ram Air version from the looks of the hood. > >But in fairness to the p*ntiac, the truck did red light. But.....I still >think >that truck could have taken him. > >-Ted > > > >========================================================== >To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ford-trucks.com with >the words "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the subject of the >message. > ______________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 15:33:58 -0800 From: Dennis Pearson Subject: Re: Ford Truck Kills Thanks for your message at 11:53 AM 3/8/00 -0800, Southerland, Rich. Your message was: >Okay, that make sense now. I wondered why the P*ntiac hit the brakes near >the end. Red light or not, that's still pretty damn funny! I don't know why everyone is so surprised! I take Camaros and Firebirds all the time in my Unibody Cleveland... Dennis Pearson in Kennewick, WA 1962 Unibody, short box, big window--351C 1966 F250 Custom Cab, 352, 4-speed 1962 short stepside (Cadillac 500) I shortened this to only FT's http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://home.att.net/~dlpearson/levi.htm ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 15:40:57 -0800 From: Dennis Pearson Subject: Re: Ford Truck Kills Thanks for your message at 04:08 PM 3/8/00 CST, Luke Phillips. Your message was: >Damn! I want my truck to run like uncle Jessies! Red light or not! Wonder >what he's got under the hood??? Also, that old Ford could have given that GM >product a 2 second head start and STILL would have won the race! Ford Trucks >Forever!!! ...Cut to Terry "The Toad" Fields assuring John Milner "You had him, man...You're the King..." in American Graffiti right after the big race against Bob Falfa... Dennis Pearson in Kennewick, WA 1962 Unibody, short box, big window--351C 1966 F250 Custom Cab, 352, 4-speed 1962 short stepside (Cadillac 500) I shortened this to only FT's http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://home.att.net/~dlpearson/levi.htm ------------------------------ From: "Pat" Subject: Bolt together boxes? Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 15:43:59 -0800 The box that had me wondering what it was, is one of the aftermarket jobs. It was installed, undercoated and painted by one of the best body shops in town and was returned cause of rust shortly thereafter. It's been redone but by the sounds of it, this may be something that's going to come back and haunt them. Pat Patsplace 77 F250 4X4 78 F150 W/Overloads 72 Ranger parts truck 79 F250 4X4 (Dream Truck Under Construction) 78 F250 2WD Lariat Donor for the DT. From: FORDTRKNUT aol.com Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 22:14:29 EST Subject: Re: Bolt together boxes? I have a friend who has one. It is made in Japan and sold by a body panel place . I can say...yea....it looks nice when installed. It now is falling apart, most of the welds seperated from each other. ------------------------------ From: "Pat" Subject: Ford Truck Kills Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 15:54:49 -0800 I'm not sure whether the front wheels didn't come off the ground a tiny bit. Gotta love it! Pat ------------------------------ From: canzus seanet.com Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 16:11:16 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: 460 Exhaust (round 2)! At 08:09 AM 08:03:2000 -0600, you wrote: > >>I was told to paint the exhaust pipe >> white and where it stops burning is where it needs to go. Is this true or >> not? > >Seems like that's what I've been told was the correct way to do it a few >times ...someone once came up with a source that "proved" it, but don't >remember who off hand... > Mighta' been me, the area the paint bubbles and burns first is the reversion point, or the point the exaust gasses stop moving downstream. If the H pipe is put there, there is a scavenging effect because the pulse in the other side just created a lower pressure in the H tubing.... Okay John? Steve & the Rockette 68 F100, 390cid, FMX 63 F100, 292cid, 3speed 72 Capri 2000, hers 73 Capri 2600,tube frame going in..... 73 MGB GT, Our Toy 94 SHO, SWMBO's 98 Contour SVT, Mine, Mine, All Mine.... ------------------------------ From: RLedlow20 aol.com Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 20:51:35 EST Subject: 351C Firing Order I have a 79 Ford truck with a 351 Cleveland engine. Can someone tell me what the firing order is? Thanks, Roger ------------------------------ From: "Bill Beyer" Subject: Re: 351C Firing Order Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 18:13:37 -0800 1-3-7-2-6-5-4 "If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, riddle them with bullets" ----- Original Message ----- From: To: <61-79-list ford-trucks.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2000 5:51 PM Subject: [61-79-list] 351C Firing Order > I have a 79 Ford truck with a 351 Cleveland engine. Can someone tell me what > the firing order is? ------------------------------ From: "Ted and Sarah Freeman" Subject: Re: 351C Firing Order Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 21:14:12 -0500 Bill, Ummm.... where's 8? ;-) -Ted -----Original Message----- From: Bill Beyer To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com <61-79-list ford-trucks.com> Date: Wednesday, March 08, 2000 9:09 PM Subject: [61-79-list] Re: 351C Firing Order >1-3-7-2-6-5-4 > ------------------------------ From: ClemmerMustangJC aol.com Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 21:20:26 EST Subject: Re: 351C Firing Order good observation no 8! :) ------------------------------ From: "Bill Beyer" Subject: Re: 351C Firing Order Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 18:29:16 -0800 Picky, picky, OK...1-3-7-2-6-5-4-8...better? Actually a little known secret of the Clevelands is that they were sooo powerful on 7 cylinders that they had to eliminate firing the 8th cylinder lest they embarrass all of the big blocks... "If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, riddle them with bullets" ----- Original Message ----- From: Ted and Sarah Freeman To: <61-79-list ford-trucks.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2000 6:14 PM Subject: [61-79-list] Re: 351C Firing Order > Bill, > > Ummm.... where's 8? ;-) > ------------------------------ From: "Ted and Sarah Freeman" Subject: Re: 351C Firing Order Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 21:30:48 -0500 I hope you know I was just razzing you a little.... You right about the power of the "C". It's a puller! -Ted -----Original Message----- From: Bill Beyer To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com <61-79-list ford-trucks.com> Date: Wednesday, March 08, 2000 9:24 PM Subject: [61-79-list] Re: 351C Firing Order >Picky, picky, OK...1-3-7-2-6-5-4-8...better? Actually a little known secret >of the Clevelands is that they were sooo powerful on 7 cylinders that they >had to eliminate firing the 8th cylinder lest they embarrass all of the big >blocks... > >"If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, riddle them with bullets" > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Ted and Sarah Freeman >To: <61-79-list ford-trucks.com> >Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2000 6:14 PM >Subject: [61-79-list] Re: 351C Firing Order > > >> Bill, >> >> Ummm.... where's 8? ;-) >> > > > >========================================================== >To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ford-trucks.com with >the words "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the subject of the >message. > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 20:29:09 -0600 Subject: Re: Carb woes From: Brett L Habben Robert, In the event that the JB weld doesn't hold forever there are other ways to plug the holes. Is there room to drive rivets through and peen them over? When we used to convert standard 2GC's to end carbs for 3 deuce setups we blocked the idle circuits with lead shot peened. Easy, cheap, effective. Brett Super75cab > What happened is that when I used the easy out to remove the >filter stub, I punched a hole in this smaller reservoir, then another hole >in the bowl. Presto two holes where there should be none. >Robert ________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ From: ClemmerMustangJC aol.com Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 21:35:06 EST Subject: Re: 351C Firing Order Yeah friend of mine has a 351C in his 69 Mach I, oh yes i halls my friends,it halls!!!!! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 21:33:38 -0500 From: Tony Marino Subject: Any 73-79 Shortbed 2x4's alive? Hey All-- I just want to ask you guys to keep an eye open for me. I've finally gotten to a point in my life where I know using my '76 F-250 4x4 manual steering stickshift beast as a daily driver to work wearing a suit and tie just ain't gonna happen much longer. I need to pick me up some sort of economical runner and road-tripper. I've been looking for about 2 years now for a 73-79 (preferrebly 78 or 79) shortbed, 2 wheel drive, CLEAN truck. I will take any motor/tranny, but would LOVE to find a 300, or 302 with a mexican toploader (3 speed with overdrive). If any of you guys have such a truck to sell, i would be extremely interested in it. Lets just say location doesn't really matter, the cleaner the better, and yes, I'm prepared to pay a good price for a good truck. Original faded paint is better to me than a fresh repaint. no bondo, no rust holes. Keep your eyes open, or contact me if you are willing to sell or know anybody who is. You get $100 bucks finders fee if I buy the truck and help with the deal. Thanks- Tony Marino ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 18:48:18 -0800 From: Mike Pacheco Subject: Re: 351C Firing Order I'll agree with that, humm a 79 with a 351C... didn't know they put them in a truck... is this true? or has this engine been switched like mine? Mike in Burien ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 21:56:32 -0500 From: Ken Payne Subject: ADMIN: 3 Ford Press Releases Three news articles from Ford Motor Company have been added to the web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com/news/ 1. Pricing, Job #1, Set for Limited Edition 2000 Harley-Davidson F-150 2. Army Explores Commercial Technologies For New, Maximum-Performance Pickup Trucks 3. Ford Super Tough Concept Truck is Tough Enough for U.S. Military Enjoy! Ken Payne Admin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2000 21:35:20 -0600 From: David Cole Subject: T-18 to 5 speed?? Hi all, new to the list. I've been on the 80-96 list for a long time, but this is my first post here. Do any list members know of a heavy duty 5 or 6 speed trans that will work with an FE? A good friend has a 69 1-ton car hauler for his drag car. He bought the truck new and it is cherry. Perfect custom paint, interior etc. Less than 150K miles. Powered by a 390 with performer intake, 750 vac sec, few other mods. The trans is a T-18 4-speed. The trans is in need of a rebuild, has a bad vibration. He is looking to perhaps replace it with a 5 or 6 speed. Anyone know of one? Also had the idea of adapting one of the 99-2000 6 speeds to it if the adapter plate/ input shaft question could be solved. He bought a used Gear Vendors overdrive for it recently, but it turns out it is bad and Gear Vendors wants $1500 + for a rebuild, plus shipping round trip. Alabama to California. Not cheap. Any input appreciated. Later, David Cole ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 20:12:47 -0800 From: CLAUDE JONES Subject: Re: Where are you? Steve I'm in Nevada about 65 miles east of Reno. Claude.... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 20:24:03 -0800 From: CLAUDE JONES Subject: Re: That sounds like a '61 Dennis Your right about that grille :o), I can spot a 64,65, and 66 right off but have trouble with the earlier ones! lol Now what can I blame that on? old age, eye sight, or selective memory? Uhhhh I pick door # 3 LOL........... Claude 66 F250 ------------------------------ From: "Bill Richardson" Subject: Ford Bronco Dash Replacement Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 22:17:52 CST Okay ya'll here's the deal. I came back from Mardi Gras and found out how immature college students really are. The radio was stolen out of my 1989 Bronco II. The dash was broken and I need to get a new one. I know this isn't the right mail group, but I was just wondering if anyone knows of a place where i can get a replacement dash in he meantime. I have the original radio that i'll put in this weekend. It doesn't have to be brand new. My 79 F-100 is going to be completed this summer, I just need something to hold the radio for now. Thanks in advance. Bill Richardson lsuraider79 aol.com ______________________________________________________ ------------------------------ From: "Neal Kitchen" Subject: Re: sanderson headers Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 23:31:31 EST Hey... all interested, check out www.sandersonheaders.com Sometimes the most simplest things are the last we think of. =) Neal Kitchen Dacula, GA ______________________________________________________ ------------------------------ From: "George W. Selby, III" Subject: Ford Dealer woes. Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2000 03:15:14 -0500 I live in a small town of about 5000 people, and go to school at a larger city of 50k people about 10 miles away. I needed the clutch adjusting rod that goes between the equalizer bar and clutch fork, as the PO had totally rigged something up that had tremendous play in it. I called my small town dealer and asked for the part. I have been in there several times and thy have usually been quite helpful. Today the parts guy tells me the older trucks aren't in his computer system, and he will have to look on microfilm, but the microfilms are hard to read due to age and he might not be able to see the parts number, and if he does read it, the part might not be available, and if it is, he surely doesn't have it there in stock. But give me your phone number and I'll call you and tell you what I find. I go about my day and he never calls (Isn't Caller ID great, I already know the dealership phone shows up on my Caller ID, too.) So the next day I go class, and when I get out I go to the Ford dealer in the larger city. I tell him what I need, and he punches a few numbers on his computer, walks to the back, and emerges with the exact part I need. BTW The clutch adjusting rod is the same for all transmissions, 2wd, 4wd, for 78 anyway. It costs $26. The funny thing is the small town dealer advertises heavily in the larger town that the extra 10 mile drive to his dealership is good, since it gets you to personal, friendly service, not like the cold impersonal treatment you get at the big city dealer. George Selby 78 F-150 400M, 4 on floor, 4x4 86 Nissan 300ZX 82 Jeep Cherokee 85 Dodge W-100 digiman ibox.net ------------------------------ From: "George W. Selby, III" Subject: Found new source of steering slop. Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2000 03:16:00 -0500 Well, I was checking out my truck for my upcoming trip to Tellico OHV area near Murphy, NC. I have fixed the clutch play, and now have a smooth shifting truck. I have been trying to eliminate all the excess play in the steering. I was turning the steering wheel while leaning against the truck while trying to look at the linkages for play. I felt the truck move during the 1st 1/4 turn of the wheel, rather than the wheels. I crawled under and started examining things. I noticed the spacer block (Rancho lift kit) for the track arm looked a little loose. Sure enough, the bolts securing it were loose, and the plate that had been fabricated to hold the block to the frame was deformed. I tightened the nuts down, and almost all of the play was eliminated from the wheel. I'll make a new plate from thicker steel tomorrow. What little play is left I can attribute to the loose steering wheel U-joint. But while I had the front end off the ground, I figured I'd check the front wheel bearings, and lucky me, the PS side had water penetration, and the bearing was rusting out. So in addition to the plate tomorrow, It'll be a front wheel bearing job, too. George Selby 78 F-150 400M, 4 on floor, 4x4 86 Nissan 300ZX 82 Jeep Cherokee 85 Dodge W-100 digiman ibox.net ------------------------------ From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)" Subject: Re: 400 intake manifold Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2000 06:52:05 -0500 Only one I know of for sure is the Offy, 360 degree which PAW has a full sheet spread on. I plan to use this on my next 460 but have no info on it yet. -- Michigan, Pot Hole Jumping, 78 Bronco Loving, Gary -- >A while back I remember someone mentioning an intake manifold for the >400 that would allow the use of a Quadrajet. Does anyone have anymore >info on it? ------------------------------ From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)" Subject: Re: 460 Exhaust (round 2)! Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2000 06:58:49 -0500 The articles I've read all say roughly 36" from the ports or about at the end of the collectors and about 3/4 of the diameter of the exhaust pipe. There are H kits that have smooth transitions which might be a better choice than welding them in. I'm not familiar with the "burn in" technique but have seen it mentioned on the list. As long as it's smooth, I believe anything you do to balance the flow will help so I wouldn't get too concerned about it, just fit it where it's most convenient, as close to the collectors as possible and you should gain most of the benefits. -- Michigan, Pot Hole Jumping, 78 Bronco Loving, Gary -- >Where does it need to be installed? I was told to paint the >exhaust pipe >white and where it stops burning is where it needs to go. Is >this true or >not? Please help! Thanks, ------------------------------ From: "James Elliott" Subject: C6's not all equal Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2000 06:16:15 -0600 Well, I am still alive, just been too busy to do anything but lurk. I have my 69 2wd all torn apart doing a complete refurb. It will have new paint, some interior changes, a new slightly modified 390 and a rebuilt C6. That leads to the post. I noted Azie's comment that not all C6's are created equal. Well, I have learned that is true! Mine has a 2-piece cast-iron tail housing. It is not even documented in the 69 factory manuals I have, but appears to be original to the truck. I have also been told by a dyed-in-the-wool ford guy I have met along the way that the cast iron units were the "heavy duty ones" used a lot in trucks and police cars. As it turns out, when I bought the rebuild kit, I had to go back and get a different rear seal. When I went searching for a speedometer gear, the transmission parts house freaked out that it was steel. The local Ford truck-only dealer freaked when I showed them the gear, and swore they had never seen nor heard of anything like it being used in a C6, nor of a cast-iron tail housing, nor of the fact that the speedo drive gear is a separate piece, not cut integral into the output shaft. As a minor note, using the Haynes transmission book as a partial guide in the rebuild, there was one retaining ring I kept looking for until I noticed the little footnote under a photograph saying that "transmissions with flanged output shafts, such as used often in trucks do not have this retainer" which matched with my reality. So, at least there is some acknowledgement somewhere that there is some validity to this setup. Just more arcane info for the records. Jim Elliott Nashville, TN '69 F-100 Explorer ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2000 08:02:28 -0500 From: Dan Herrmann Subject: Re: Ford Dealer Woes At 03:15 AM 3/9/00 -0500, you wrote: Today the parts guy tells me the older >trucks aren't in his computer system, and he will have to look on >microfilm, but the microfilms are hard to read due to age and he might not >be able to see the parts number, and if he does read it, the part might not >be available, and if it is, he surely doesn't have it there in stock. >George Selby ____________________________ George The words you have uttered above is the same line of "bull-crapp" that dealer parts men have been telling us old Truck/Car owners now for 10 years! In all the 15 years that I have been dealing in NOS & New OEM parts as part of my hobby I have heard these words time & time again. And this is nothing short of PURE LAZINESS on the part of the counter man! In Georges case the man finally did look up the item and just happened to have it in stock. But the parts man delayed him another 24 hours because of his laziness. For one, counter men don't like to be bothered with having to look up parts on the old Microfilms because it is slower than their computer. The Ford computer system only has break downs for 1980 and newer autos. Plus many dealerships have moved their microfilm machines to the back room well away from the front counter. Second, micro films are no harder to read than what is on the computer system. Part break downs are drawn up the same, font size is the same, etc. etc. And age has nothing to do with it. If their films is bad then they can order new ones from Ford.... Third, it is just too darn easy for them to say that parts for a 25 year old truck would not be available anymore. This one gets my goat more than anything! In fact many parts that are vital to a trucks operation such as Electrical & Mechanical items ARE still available through Ford!! In fact, I often wonder how many part numbers have been dropped by Ford due to low sales BECAUSE there dealer's parts men have refused to look them up.... And last, the chances are much better that the dealer won't have the items in stock but they do receive deliveries From Ford twice a week and can order this for you. And if the part is on back order through Ford or is obsolete then they can use there National parts locater to try to find another dealer around the country that has the item. Folks, if you encounter these kind of excuse's at your dealership, then you tell the parts man to "get off of his Lazy-As* and go look them up"!! If he gives you the run-around then go to the dealership manager. Good Luck!! Dan Herrmann 1964 F100 Custom Cab 1966 F100 Custom Cab 1969 F100 Ranger 1975 F150 Explorer 1979 F150 Ranger XLT ------------------------------ From: Marvin Meyer Subject: No more alternators and 42V systems Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2000 09:32:51 -0500 This looks interesting; A company making a small fuel cell to power on board electronics and accessories. Can any one remember the HP required to run things like alt, waterpump, a/c??. Here's the link in refrence to it.... To access the rest of this feature you must be a logged in Registered User Of Ford Truck Enthusiasts
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