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61-79-list Digest Thu, 10 Feb 2000 Volume: 2000 Issue: 003

In This Issue:
Restoration Question
cost of rebuilt 429?
Re: Transmission fluid
Re: Water in Oil
Whats up?
Puttin'it in the weeds
Re: 460 head I.D.
Re: Water in oil
Re: cost of rebuilt 429?
Re: cost of rebuilt 429?
Re: BRAKES! Proportioning valve stuff
Re: BRAKES! Proportioning valve stuff
Steering U Joint
Re: BRAKES! Proportioning valve stuff
Water in oil
351M/400 flex plate
BRAKES
Re: 351M/400 flex plate
Re: BRAKES! Proportioning valve stuff
Re: 351M/400 flex plate
Re: BRAKES! Proportioning valve stuff
windshield trim
Gearheadgarage
Re: 351M/400 flex plate
Re: windshield trim
Re: 351M/400 flex plate
Re: BRAKES! Booster stuff
Re: carb specs
My new van and "White Room"....:-)
Re: carb specs
Re: windshield trim
Re: windshield trim
Re: Restoration Question
Re: windshield trim

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Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 16:53:26 -0700
From: Brian Koss mail.arc.nasa.gov>
Subject: Restoration Question

The inner fenders on the 66 trucks have rubber stapled to the rear as a
seal. How are these staples put in? I can't locate a HEAVY duty stapler
that will penetrate the steel.



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From: Dlkiehl aol.com
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 20:24:26 EST
Subject: cost of rebuilt 429?

Any idea what I can expect to pay for a rebuilt, standard 429? I'm preparing
to have one rebuilt soon and was wondering if I should just go to one in a
crate.

Darryl Kiehl, Atlanta

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Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 17:54:12 -0800
From: Don Mears uswest.net>
Subject: Re: Transmission fluid

Just wanted to know if there is any danger in mixing different
transmission fluids. I have Dextron in the tranny now and have spare F
type fluid. Any problem? Thanks.

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From: BanksRVA aol.com
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 21:49:00 EST
Subject: Re: Water in Oil

My truck gets condensation buildup every winter. Scared the s**t outa me
first winter I had it. I thought I had purchased a lemon. I only drive a
couple miles at a time cause I live in the city (Richmond). Therefore, the
water doesn't burn off, and it won't clear up 'till Spring.

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From: JefriHansn aol.com
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 22:37:01 EST
Subject: Whats up?

I saw yesterday when I went to post my "water in the Oil" that the site has
changed, haven't read it in a month of sunday's. Throughout I saw send posts
to "small-list ford-trucks.com" When I did - it came right back - saying
public posting wasn't authorized - fowarded it to this old address and it
went right through - just like this one.

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Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2000 19:47:28 -0800
From: scott ford-trucks.com>
Subject: Puttin'it in the weeds

>I found an outfit that will build me reverse-eye
>springs for $30 each. With that, and the removal of a few leaves i >could get a 4 inch drop all the way around.

One of my brothers (the black sheep) lowered his g*c this way.
Worked great in the rear,but had to put some leaves back in it to get
some clearance between the crossmember and the axle in front.
Just don't lose the leaves you take out:)

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From: SHill48337 aol.com
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 00:33:29 EST
Subject: Re: 460 head I.D.

In a message dated 2/10/00 12:52:58 AM Eastern Standard Time,
JUMPINFORD aol.com writes:

<< Actually Ive seen several heads with a D VE designation, They have all
been
late 70's heads, with the extremely large 97cc combustion chambers.

Darrell Duggan
74 F-350 "Tweety" >>

You may be right I have not seen many from 79 up. I was going on the fact
that the A2A was used with the D3VE head.
Burt Hill kennewick WA 1972 F-250 4x4 460

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From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)" visteon.com>
Subject: Re: Water in oil
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 07:18:18 -0500

My 352 used to develop water in the oil over the winter when it sat for a
long time. Every spring I had to actually drain the oil and refill it
because it would get up to a couple of quarts of water in it and there was
no way for it to get in there except condensation. This may be an FE thing
or an oil air cleaner thing or a storage thing, not sure.

--
Michigan, Pot Hole Jumping,
78 Bronco Loving, Gary
--

>- checked the oil last night - first time in months (probably
>only 50 miles
>in those months) - was all murky and dipstick completely
>covered with water
>beads. Friend says don't seet it - it's winter condesation
>because I ain't
>driving it enough.

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From: JJJJJGRANTaol.com
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 07:26:54 EST
Subject: Re: cost of rebuilt 429?

i have a freind that sells rebuilt engines, the last time i checked on a 460
long block,
it was 1100.00. with a one year warranty. its good to finaly see another
georgian on the list. let me know if you want an engine, i'll put you in
touch with him.

jeff grant
griffin, ga

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From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)" visteon.com>
Subject: Re: cost of rebuilt 429?
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 08:05:03 -0500

We've argued this point many times. A reman engine will run in the
neighborhood of $1000 and a little more and virtually all reman engines run
about the same area in cost but watch out you don't get stuck with all the
left over parts in the shop.........:-( This is way too common in these
engines unfortunately.

If you know your machine shop guys then this is the best route but if you
don't it's a matter of convenience and your chances of getting a raw deal
are about even. The more you know about engines and rebuilding them the
more likely you will fare well with a local machine shop but stay on top of
it as it goes together unless you really trust their judgement.......

You can also get kits from PAW with good quality parts and specify the
nature of the regrinds in the kit such as a 10/10 crank or .030 over bore
etc. and then you put it together yourself and can then measure stuff and
verify that it was done right. Once it's assembled there is no easy way to
determine if it was properly machined and even if you buy a kit you will
have to have access to the proper measuring tools and know how to use them
to check the work.

Personally I like to have them rough it in and hone the cylinders myself
since that is something I can do without a great expense and since this is
the one place that can make or break a long living engine. The very least I
will do is have them finish it and assemble it myself, checking all the
clearances including the bores as I go. If I then see a problem they will
have to fix it, before I put it together :-)

--
Michigan, Pot Hole Jumping,
78 Bronco Loving, Gary
--

>Any idea what I can expect to pay for a rebuilt, standard 429?

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From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)" visteon.com>
Subject: Re: BRAKES! Proportioning valve stuff
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 08:09:12 -0500

In the early 70's and late 60's it was very common to have a heavy car with
brakes so sensitive it was scary but as time went on they realized how
dangerous that was and softenedn them up but in 78 they must have gone too
far.........:-(

I have a hydraulic booster system from a lincoln and will be putting that in
when I get time. I am reasonably sure this will be a VAST improvement over
the stock vacuum booster setup :-) With larger than stock tires in a heavy
vehicle I don't think you can make them too sensitive :-)

--
Michigan, Pot Hole Jumping,
78 Bronco Loving, Gary
--

>with the unit from a Lincoln. Absolutely the touchiest brakes
>I have ever driven in my life! The car could be driven with
>practice, and was actually a very nice car, but you literally
>had to sneak up on the brakes to keep from locking all four wheels.

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From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)" visteon.com>
Subject: Re: BRAKES! Proportioning valve stuff
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 08:12:52 -0500

The weakness in the bronco's system is the booster/MC so any improvement to
this will make them better. The rest of the system is simply cylinders and
tubing and if there is no air in them they will be rock solid no matter what
booster you use. The sponge comes from the booster mechanism, bellcranks
and MC in my case. They are simply inadequate for the load I'm putting on
them with large tires etc.....

--
Michigan, Pot Hole Jumping,
78 Bronco Loving, Gary
--

>Wouldn't this add to the spongy problems ? I mean adding boost
>to a weak
>system will just make it seem weaker ?

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From: am14daimlerchrysler.com
Subject: Steering U Joint
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 08:48:46 -0500

George Selby writes: >>My 78 F-150 44 needs a steering column u-joint (not
the rag joint, the
u-joint.) Any ideas on where to get one? Has anyopne actually relaced
this part?

Any help appreciated, my truck wanders all over the place and I have
narrowed it down to the 1/2 revolution play in the wheel caused by the worn
u-joint.<<


Someone wrote an article on this some time back and listed P/N's and
everything. Seems like it was Marino... Should be something in the
archives on it...

Azie
Ardmore, Al.


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From: "William S. Hart" iastate.edu>
Subject: Re: BRAKES! Proportioning valve stuff
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 07:52:59 -0600

> I have a hydraulic booster system from a lincoln and will be
> putting that in
> when I get time. I am reasonably sure this will be a VAST
> improvement over
> the stock vacuum booster setup :-)


I've got the hydro-boost system on my stang ... I can't say I can feel a lot
of difference, though it does have some different traits (like no help after
the motor shuts off) ... also it can overheat your p/s fluid if you don't
keep it topped off all the way ... so if you hear a funny whining noise when
you hit the brakes, check the fluid ...

Just my $.02
wish

96 Mustang GT 5spd 4.6L
73ish 1/2ton 4x4 6.4L
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish


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From: am14daimlerchrysler.com
Subject: Water in oil
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 08:58:29 -0500

Water in the oil is not good, but from your own description of the way you
drive it (only a few miles to work) it never really has a chance to get
fully warmed up, and yes, condensation is probobly the correct diagnosis
for your particular situation. Leaving the condensation in the pan (hence
thru out the engine) is not good, IMHO. You need to get it fully warmed
up, and change the oil/filter.

Azie
Ardmore, Al.


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Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 09:40:01 -0500
From: James Oxley thecore.com>
Subject: 351M/400 flex plate

Are these the same. They look it to me.

Thanks

OX

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Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 09:26:11 -0600
Subject: BRAKES
From: "John LaGrone" ford-trucks.com>

> What's interesting to me is that the boosters are no larger on newer
> vehicles yet they stop better with less effort.....why is that????

Only speculating, Gary, but it could be they have a hydraulic booster
running off of the power steering pump, especially if you have been looking
at 4 wheel disc systems. Today's smaller engines don't pull enough vacuum
and a vacuum system doesn't produce enough boost for 4 wheel discs. Same
thing for diesels.

-- John
jlagroneford-trucks.com <]:-) <]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)
1979 F150 Custom, Long Wide Bed, Regular Cab, 351M, C6 (Henry)
http://www.ford-trucks.com/jlagrone/henry.home.htm
Dearborn iron rules!!!!

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From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)" visteon.com>
Subject: Re: 351M/400 flex plate
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 10:40:41 -0500

I've found a difference in the manual flywheels but both engines are
externally ballanced so I would expect the flex plates to be the same.
Pressure plate bolt patterns are different for the 351m and 400 for some odd
reason though :-( Boy was that a painful lesson :-(

--
Michigan, Pot Hole Jumping,
78 Bronco Loving, Gary
--

>Are these the same. They look it to me.

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From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)" visteon.com>
Subject: Re: BRAKES! Proportioning valve stuff
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 10:46:04 -0500

You can't get something for nothing so smaller MC pistons mean more travel
with the same wheel cylinder size and if you increase cylinder size you have
the same response, more travel. Modern brakes use very little pedal and
still get it done with less effort which is some kind of Paradox........

--
Michigan, Pot Hole Jumping,
78 Bronco Loving, Gary
--

> The miracle of hydraulics, smaller bore in the master = higher force
>in the slave for a given PSI and area, for example, if a 1"
>bore produces
>1000 lbs of pressure, that pressure acting on a 2" piston will
>triple the
>force.

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Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 10:49:34 -0500
From: James Oxley thecore.com>
Subject: Re: 351M/400 flex plate

Peters, Gary (G.R.) wrote:
>
> I've found a difference in the manual flywheels but both engines are
> externally ballanced so I would expect the flex plates to be the same.
> Pressure plate bolt patterns are different for the 351m and 400 for some odd
> reason though :-( Boy was that a painful lesson :-(
>

So if I used a 351M manual flywheel on a 400 with a 351M clutch
assy, would that be OK? The flex plate question was for one that I am
selling. A guy needs one for his 400 and I have several 400 and 351M
flex plates. I noticed one of the 400 flex plates I have has half
drilled holes (not in balcnce weight) that look like they are not
factory. Was this due to a shop balancing job??

OX

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From: "William S. Hart" iastate.edu>
Subject: Re: BRAKES! Proportioning valve stuff
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 09:58:01 -0600

> You can't get something for nothing so smaller MC pistons mean more travel
> with the same wheel cylinder size and if you increase cylinder
> size you have
> the same response, more travel. Modern brakes use very little pedal and
> still get it done with less effort which is some kind of Paradox........
>

I think its called a lever ... if you move the fulcrum you can change the
amount of force and travel required to exert a certain amount of force or
travel a certain distance ... by improving booster efficiencies and such you
can move the fulcrum wherever you want/need too to get the desired travel
...

Just my $.02
wish

96 Mustang GT 5spd 4.6L
73ish 1/2ton 4x4 6.4L
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish


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Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 08:31:49 -0800 (PST)
From: "D. DiMartino" yahoo.com>
Subject: windshield trim

ive been searching everywhere but i can't seem to find windhield
trim for a 67-72 f series truck. does ford itself stock old
items like this? that's the only place i haven't looked. tried
all the normal cataloges and JCW, no joy, only the rubber seals
that are needed are for sale, or at best corner moulding pieces.
would 73-79 trim work??

=====
Daniel DiMartino
yahoo.com>
1968 F-250 soon to be a 4x4
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From: "NP 540" hotmail.com>
Subject: Gearheadgarage
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 08:59:52 PST

I was just surfing the web yesterday, and the site:
www.gearheadgarage.com
have their demo FINALLY available, and it works! Took me about
1/2 hour to download. I recommand it to all the backyard and
frontyard mecanics for entertainment during the long winter storms...
:D :D :D :D :D

On another subject, I remember a while ago a discusion on this
list about proper paint colors for FE engines...
I don't know if you folks like to build plastic model kits like
I do, but there is an article in "Car Modeler 2000", now available
on newstands or whatever, about painting colors for FE plastic
engines. I don't think there is info on that article that could
be usefull for "full-size" FE.

Gerry
Vive le FORD!
______________________________________________________


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Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 09:18:48 -0800
Subject: Re: 351M/400 flex plate
From: "Jeff Norville" sosinet.net>

> So if I used a 351M manual flywheel on a 400 with a 351M clutch
> assy, would that be OK?

This is what I did and it seems to work ok. Used a super duty clutch and
crossed fingers.

If Gary has a painful lesson story I suspect I am about to experience it
personally...

Jeff

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From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)" visteon.com>
Subject: Re: windshield trim
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 12:19:47 -0500

I understand 62-79 all use the same windshield but not absolutely sure about
that, just something I've heard kicked around. If that's the case then the
trim will prabably be similar enough to work too.

--
Michigan, Pot Hole Jumping,
78 Bronco Loving, Gary
--

> would 73-79 trim work??

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From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)" visteon.com>
Subject: Re: 351M/400 flex plate
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 12:52:59 -0500

In my case I had a very nice, HD plate in there but I was getting a lot of
chatter so opted to change it but could not find a HD unit to replace it
that would bolt to the flywheel.....based on the holes in the unit I was
replacing. In retrospect I think there were actually several sets of holes
in the flywheel itself and the other HD unit would have bolted up to one of
the other sets of holes but didn't know that at the time I swapped them at
the store.

The chatter was actually caused by worn bell crank bushings and loose clutch
rod ends so the clutch actually did not even need any work, just the
linkage. When I eventually fixed the linkage the light went on because my
new, LD clutch was also chattering and even worse than the old one but quit
after the linkage fix. It's also slipping under heavy loads. I'm passing
this on so the rest of you don't make the same stupid mistake I did.....what
a BUMMER!!!

--
Michigan, Pot Hole Jumping,
78 Bronco Loving, Gary
--

>> So if I used a 351M manual flywheel on a 400 with a 351M clutch
>> assy, would that be OK?
>
>This is what I did and it seems to work ok. Used a super duty
>clutch and
>crossed fingers.
>
>If Gary has a painful lesson story I suspect I am about to
>experience it
>personally...

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From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)" visteon.com>
Subject: Re: BRAKES! Booster stuff
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 13:02:26 -0500

Regardless how you do it, X amount of effort generates X amount of energy
but if the pedal travel remains the same and effort is decreased then there
is more assist somewhere in the system which is what my point was.

You can move the fulcrum, change the MC diameter, wheel cylinder diameter
etc.. but if the pedal movement remains constant then the assist has changed
if braking effort is reduced or performance is increased, there is no other
explaination from a physics stand point. My question was how did they do it
without enlarging the booster or perhaps they did and I just haven't noticed
the difference yet??

You can make the booster more sensitive but at full pull it is still working
with 20" vacuum so the diapharm has to be enlarged to gain more total power
assist or muliple chambers applying force to multiple diapharms would have
to be used which is actually a real possiblility now that I think about
it........WHOA! I think I just got a brain storm.......:-)

--
Michigan, Pot Hole Jumping,
78 Bronco Loving, Gary
--

>> You can't get something for nothing so smaller MC pistons
>
>I think its called a lever ... if you move the fulcrum you can
>change the
>amount of force and travel required to exert a certain amount

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From: "Moore, Jimmy" ZymeTx.com>
Subject: Re: carb specs
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 11:29:33 -0600


Does anyone know the carb specifications for the idle adjust and the air
intake adjust for my 1981 Ford F-150 with the 300 six and the one barrel
carb? My dad was messing around with them the other day because I had
problems with it staying started. I found the problem, but now it is
running like crap. The problem was the carb to spacer gasket. It has those
plastic rings, and the ring from the old gasket was still there, and I
didn't see it when I changed gaskets.
Any help is greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Jim Moore

Jim Moore
1981 Ford F-150 300 Six
1964 Ford F-100 292
Oklahoma City, OK

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From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)" visteon.com>
Subject: My new van and "White Room"....:-)
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 13:46:47 -0500

well gang(s), I got a good day in with my new toy. I know it's not a 78
but it is a truck after all :-) Put about 200 miles on it yesterday when I
took my wife to the dentist.....and to the outlet mall afterwards :-) Had a
little trouble getting the seats out to set up the portapottie and of course
we needed it on the trip.......

Got the seats figure out now and all is well :-) I really love it and so
does my wife :-) We'll be taking this to PF this year if nothing goes wrong
with it so look for a dark metalic green and silver extended 93 Aerostar
with FTE stickers in the windows :-)

Ordered the steel for my bench top yesterday and Mitchell's Welding cut and
bent the sheets for me to perfection. Now I have a "Z" shaped piece of
steel covering a 24" bench with 3/4" osb under it and 170" long, continuous
with a 3/4" lip in front to protect the wood and a 5-1/4" back splash in the
back to keep from losing parts or spilling oil into the wood etc.. This
will make an ideal white room to rebuild auto trannys or engines etc. with
easy cleanup. My part washer is right opposit the bench and blast cabinet
is at the other end of the room in the same relationship to the bench.....I
know, not very good idea for a white room :-) It is fully contained and
sealed so I don't expect much trouble from dust but when working on auto
trannys or engines I will refrain from using the blast cabinet during the
assy process :-)

For anyone interested, the blast cabinet is ABS, 36X24X18 or so and cost
$275 from Northern hydraulic.
The parts washer has a 280 gph pump, sits on a 30 gal barrel and cost $259
from NH and the 14 ga steel for the bench, cut and bent for me cost $90.
For the work I anticipate doing in this room I believe I've made some good
investments :-) The lighting in that room which is approximately 8'x15' is
one 8', 95 watt instant start dual bulb flourescent commercial fixture which
will work in below zero temps and easily lights up the whole room with
plenty of light to do fine work etc.. I used these same fixtures over the
lift or auto bay area and 4 fixtures light it up pretty well with a 12'
ceiling but I will eventually add one more, evenly spaced to get it up to
the level I think I need in a 24' bay so roughly every 5' or so, cross ways
to the bay. These fixtures are $45 from Lowe's and the bulbs are about $7
or so per pc. If anyone has ever tried to use ordinary shop lights in a
cold building you already know why I went this route. They are more
expensive but BOY! do they put out the light. They are dimmer in really
cold temps though but brighten up after being on a while. They still come
on instantly unlike my old shop lights no matter how cold it is, just dimmer
when cold.

My son's AOD is on the jack waiting to be moved into the "White Room" for
rebuilding as soon as I get the bench finished up, hopefully tonight.
Looking forward to a new adventure in AOD rebuilding and of course I will
keep Y'all posted :-)

--
Michigan, Pot Hole Jumping,
78 Bronco Loving, Gary
--


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From: "William S. Hart" iastate.edu>
Subject: Re: carb specs
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 13:18:24 -0600

> Does anyone know the carb specifications for the idle adjust and the air
> intake adjust for my 1981 Ford F-150 with the 300 six and the one barrel
> carb?

> The problem was the carb to spacer gasket.

Likely you're runnin pretty rich then since you sealed up that leak ..

I'd recommend using the vaccuum method of tuning the carb, but you can also
do it by ear, you just need to find the mixture screw and the idle adjust.
You might also check the choke while you're in there ...

see if this helps :

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/Tech/Tuneup/tune.html

Just my $.02
wish

96 Mustang GT 5spd 4.6L
73ish 1/2ton 4x4 6.4L
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish


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Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 15:00:15 -0500
From: "G.T. Herpich" bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: windshield trim

Ford keeps stocking items as long as there's demand. That trim isn't
likely to be in high demand and it's not something the after market is
likely to repro. I always check with my Ford counterman friend first
anyway. They still have stuff like the gas filler grommet, instrument
panel regulator, horn index, brushes and that rubber spring thing that
goes in the horn ring. These are all things I've bought recently for my
'71. The price is sometimes higher than Mac or Autokrafters, especially
if you can't get them to wholesale to you.
One thing that sort of surprised me was when I learned that Ford
recently retooled for a run of '69-'70 Mustang dash pads. I think they
get something like $700 for them.

"D. DiMartino" wrote:
>
> does ford itself stock old
> items like this?
>
> =====
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> yahoo.com>
> 1968 F-250 soon to be a 4x4
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Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 13:51:05 -0800 (PST)
From: "D. DiMartino" yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: windshield trim


Gary wrote:
> I understand 62-79 all use the same windshield but not
absolutely sure about that

i have my doubts that they are an exact match, but if the
correct seals that correspond with the newer trim parts are
used, i can't see the shape of the window being too different.
anyone have a 67-72 truck sitting next to a 73 or up??

=====
Daniel DiMartino
yahoo.com>
1968 F-250 soon to be a 4x4
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From: canzusseanet.com
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 15:11:44 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: Restoration Question

At 04:53 PM 10:02:2000 -0700, Brian Koss wrote:
>The inner fenders on the 66 trucks have rubber stapled to the rear as a
>seal. How are these staples put in? I can't locate a HEAVY duty stapler
>that will penetrate the steel.
>

Any good 1/2" pneumatic stapler should be able to go through 16 guage
sheet metal. My Fasco will staple 15 guage stainless.....

Steve & the Rockette
68 F100, 390cid, FMX
63 F100, 292cid, 3speed
72 Capri 2000, hers
73 Capri 2600,tube frame going in.....
73 MGB GT, Our Toy
94 SHO, SWMBO's
98 Contour SVT, Mine, Mine, All Mine....


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Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 18:57:40 -0500
From: Joe & Jen DeLaurentis p3.net>
Subject: Re: windshield trim

I can confirm that the 67-79 windshield is the same!!!!
I needed one for my 68 and when i went to the glass shop , i went and
did
some browsing of there catalogs and the 67-79 truck windshield is the
SAME..
The gaskets are different on some years do to different types of chrome
moulding
Used..
Joe

"D. DiMartino" wrote:

> Gary wrote:
> > I understand 62-79 all use the same windshield but not
> absolutely sure about that
>
> i have my doubts that they are an exact match, but if the
> correct seals that correspond with the newer trim parts are
> used, i can't see the shape of the window being too different.
> anyone have a 67-72 truck sitting next to a 73 or up??
>
> =====
> Daniel DiMartino
> yahoo.com>
> 1968 F-250 soon to be a 4x4
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