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61-79-list Digest Fri, 25 Feb 2000 Volume: 2000 Issue: 019

In This Issue:
Re: Drop spindels
Steering Stabilizer
Re: Steering stabilizer for E150?
Re: Power Steering
Re: Steering stabilizer for E150?
Re: Steering Stabilizer
Re: Power Steering
Re: Steering stabilizer for E150?
Re: Steering Stabilizer
Re: [61-79-list]Kids and dogs
Re: Ridin in the back memories (kinda long)
Re: [61-79-list]Kids and dogs
Re: Carpeting for a 74 F-250
Which Dunes?
Re: [Re: Parting out 62 Ford]
Reply to kids and pups
Re: Reply to kids and pups
Re: 351c 2v vs 4v
Re: trimming posts
Re: Reply to kids and pups
Re: trimming posts
Re: trimming posts
Re: Drop spindels
Re: Steering stabilizer for E150?
Re: Drop spindels
Re: [61-79-list]Kids and dogs
Re: Off topic, cats and dogs....GRRRRRRr! #$#$#$##
Tapping insanity
Re: Tapping insanity
Tranny Question - help!
Re: Tapping insanity

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Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 11:09:42 -0800
From: "Andrew Doering" pgn.com>
Subject: Re: Drop spindels

Thanks for the reply.

Drew
65 F100 390 (in progress)

>>> OAI Electronics: Paul Rozell oaielectronics.com> 02/25 10:32 AM >>>
Andrew,
I just searched and found www.fatmanfab.com I haven't had a chance to look
but as I said I was told they have what you need.

Paul Rozell
65 F100 460 C6


> Anyone know where to get dropped spindels for a 73-79 ford truck?
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From: prozell oaielectronics.com (OAI Electronics: Paul Rozell)
Subject: Steering Stabilizer
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 13:41:09 -0600

Do they make a steering stabilizer for 65 F100's???
If so who carries them.

Paul Rozell
65 F100 460 C6


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From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)" visteon.com>
Subject: Re: Steering stabilizer for E150?
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 14:30:39 -0500

I put a stabilizer on my 75 but after converting it to 4wd. Since the tie
rod is in the same place in both applications I would venture that the same
kit will fit your application. Seems like it was just a universal Rancho
kit with a few generic brackets in it to mount it to the frame but can't
remember for sure. They aren't hard to put on.

The wandering problem may be an indication of binding king pins or even
unevenly worn tires. Do you rotate your tires regularly? I didn't used to
but do now religiously since I have seen what it can do for you. In my
experience, vans seem to be more prone to this than other vehicles for some
reason but all of mine have been old and worn so not a good comparison I
guess.

--
Michigan, Pot Hole Jumping,
78 Bronco Loving, Gary
--

>Fast forward to today, I have a '77 E150. It likes to follow
>grooves in the
>road and seems to require constant correction. Might a
>stabilizer be a good
>idea here? (The front end and gearbox are not sloppy.)

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From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)" visteon.com>
Subject: Re: Power Steering
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 14:34:40 -0500

If you mean too much power then a heavier spring in the control valve might
slow it down but this is a job for someone who has some mechanical
experience and will require complete tear down of the box. You can add
stabalizers to add resistance or increase caster or decrease camber to
nearly zero too but may have handling problems with the caster change if you
add too much.

Stabalizers will have the effect to of reducing the system's "return to
center" properties and you may experience some wandering due to "over"
stabalizing.

--
Michigan, Pot Hole Jumping,
78 Bronco Loving, Gary
--

>Is there any way to tighten up the power steering box or pump.
>I love the
>power steering in my truck but it is a little to much. I would prefer a
>little more resistance, and wanted to know if any one new how to remedy
>this.

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From: "Southerland, Rich" alldata.com>
Subject: Re: Steering stabilizer for E150?
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 11:42:47 -0800

The wandering problem may be an indication of binding king pins or
even
unevenly worn tires. Do you rotate your tires regularly?

Haven't had the van long enough to need rotation yet. it had been sitting
for 4 years prior to us getting it on the road late this summer. The tires
seemed to be wearing fine and had excellent tread, but 2 were starting to
seperate and all 4 were weather checked, so I replaced them last month with
6 ply light truck tires.

I will check the king pins, the guy I got it from was a fanatic about
maintaining it until gas got too expensive and they parked the van.

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From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)" visteon.com>
Subject: Re: Steering Stabilizer
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 14:37:33 -0500

I bought mine at auto parts over the counter. Just a generic kit. Dick
Cepek also handles a wide variety of kits but is higher quality and more
pricy generally. I bought two shocks for $36 each a while back from him.
(got it figured out but not installed yet)

--
Michigan, Pot Hole Jumping,
78 Bronco Loving, Gary
--

>Do they make a steering stabilizer for 65 F100's???
>If so who carries them.

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Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 12:05:37 -0800
From: John Lord home.com>
Subject: Re: Power Steering

It is possible but i recommend a shop that knows what their doing.
There are specific measurements of how strong your steering is. It is done
using a spring scale on the steering wheel and measuring the drag in inch
pounds in each direction.
(the pitman arm is disconnected from the rest of the steering while this is
done)

If it does not meet specs, it is changed by adding or removing shims from the
control valve assembly. So in theory you can adjust your steering. all you
want as long as you don't exceed he maximum amount of shims.

As a note. the spool valve does not have an equal surface area on both sides
(left & right turn) one side has a small shaft used to guide it and help
control.
because of this you find that the pressure required to turn right is less the
when turning left.

All of the above is listed in the ford shop manuals.

OAI Electronics: Paul Rozell wrote:

> Hey All,
> Is there any way to tighten up the power steering box or pump. I love the
> power steering in my truck but it is a little to much. I would prefer a
> little more resistance, and wanted to know if any one new how to remedy
> this.
>
> Paul Rozell
> 65 F100 460 C6
>
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From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)" visteon.com>
Subject: Re: Steering stabilizer for E150?
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 15:07:29 -0500

Sitting for 4 years almost guarantees that it is the kingpins. Even with
fresh grease in them they will dry out when they sit very long and will
seize up. I'm not foolish enough to bet my life on it but I'm pretty sure
you will find at least one that won't take grease and if you disconnect the
tie rods at the steering arm I bet at least one of the wheels will not move
easily. The only way to really test this is to disconnect the tie rods from
both steering arms with the proper tool, not a tuning fork and then attempt
to "steer" each one separately by hand. They should move with one little
finger in them from stop to stop.

--
Michigan, Pot Hole Jumping,
78 Bronco Loving, Gary
--

>I will check the king pins, the guy I got it from was a fanatic about
>maintaining it until gas got too expensive and they parked the van.

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Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 15:11:00 -0500
From: Ted Wnorowski onebellevue.com>
Subject: Re: Steering Stabilizer

LMC: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.lmctruck.com/ has them for '48-'52, '53-'56 2WD, F100 - F250 $59.95.
'57-'64 F100 - F250 2WD $59.95.
F100 '59-'65 4WD. F250 '59-'72 4WD $49.95.
F100 '66-'72 4WD $49.95.
F100-F250 '65-'72 2WD $79.95.
Under LMC's part # sticker it says they're made by TRW in the good 'ole USA. + I faxed my order EARLY Sunday morning (about 1 am) and got it by Wednesday. That was from Kansas to north central Ohio.
Phone # is 1-800-222-5664.

Hope this helps,
Ted Wnorowski
Bellevue,OH
'64 F-250


OAI Electronics: Paul Rozell wrote:

> Do they make a steering stabilizer for 65 F100's???
> If so who carries them.
>
> Paul Rozell
> 65 F100 460 C6
>
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Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 12:29:24 -0700
From: "Kiernan, Denny" wenet.net>
Subject: Re: [61-79-list]Kids and dogs

Southerland, Rich wrote:

> 'scuse me? As long as they are PROPERLY restrained, it is perfectly legal
> to have Fido in the bed of the truck. The constabulatory does frown on
> loose pooches because they have been known to fall out...

I fell out the back of a truck when I was about 14, busted my glasses
and had to go to the hospital for some stitches on my forehead. But it
happened because I was getting off the truck when it came to a stop, and
misjudged his speed. Even if we had had seat belts in those days, it
wouldn't have made any difference.

I still think it ought to be up to the person whether they want to ride
in the back of a truck or not.

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Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 14:48:15 -0700
From: "Richard Currit" state.wy.us>
Subject: Re: Ridin in the back memories (kinda long)

>Back in those days, a kid or a dog could ride in the >back of a
pick-up. I dont know about the rest of the >country, but in California
they're not allowed to >anymore.

Those days still exist here in Wyoming. Course, we're rather
anti-regulatory in these parts. Heres a back of the truck story I read
in the paper not long ago. Seems some kids in a small town (I think it
was up in the Bighorn Basin) were out riding around one night. They had
a rope tied to the trailer hitch and were taking turns lasooing orange
road cones. (We also have to make our own entertainment). Well, one of
em threw the rope around a real estate "house for sale" sign. Its quite
a bit heavier than an orange cone. The slack came out of the rope and
stretched it out, the sign came loose and the rope acted like a rubber
band, sign hit him in the head. Forget how many stitches he needed.
Makes me laugh everytime I think about it. Wish I could have been there
when he tried to explain it to his Dad. Of course I've never done
anything that dumb. Except maybe the time we lined the bed of an F-250
with plastic and filled it with water on a hot summer day. Was pretty
cool cruisin around town. Till the driver stomped on the throttle
taking off from a stop sign. Four of us hit the tailgate in the middle
of what seemed like a tidal wave. Gate came open. There we were,
soakin wet, sittin in a heap in the middle of the intersection. Glad
there were no witnesses.

High Plains (lucky to be alive) Richard
'72 F-100

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From: "Bill Deacon" surfside.net>
Subject: Re: [61-79-list]Kids and dogs
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 13:35:59 -0800

Hello,this is a '61-'79 Ford truck site--Not "Pets are Us"
I can tell the breed of a cat just by the sound it makes when I run over it
with my Ford Truck---How's that?



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From: FORDTRKNUT aol.com
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 17:16:37 EST
Subject: Re: Carpeting for a 74 F-250

I have a 1979 F-350 4x4 and bought carpet for it a few years ago. I bought
mine from Auto Custom Carpet, somewhere down south (SC maybe). It is a
perfect fit, because its a one piece molded. Not that two piece junk. It
even goes all the way under the seat!! It's exactly like the factory carpet,
the fine cut pile type. I even bought 3 yards extra to do my kick panels &
the bottom of the doors. I recommend them. I think they have a web site
too. Check Yahoo for it. If there are any questions...just ask!! Wayne
Grabley

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From: "Robert Werner" postmaster.co.uk>
Subject: Which Dunes?
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 22:44:27 +0000

I'm talking about the ones at the Silver Lake State park, On the west coast.
Robert

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Date: 25 Feb 00 14:50:16 PST
From: shawn tayloe netscape.net>
Subject: Re: [Re: Parting out 62 Ford]

I'll contact my brother in law and let him know that you want those parts.
I'll also ask him to talk to the cops to see if they will release the truck.
It has been almost 6 months in the impound lot.

There doesn't seem to be much hope rebuilding the interior of the truck. The
fire was really hot. They grabbed a picnic table and busted it up and then
siphoned the gas. Everything on the inside is melted. All of the windows are
broken out.

Dennis Pearson ctc.edu> wrote:
Thanks for your message at 05:03 PM 2/24/00 PST, shawn tayloe. Your message
was:
It is a F100 custom cab
>with the uni-body. The tailgate is still good on it and I have a couple
sets
>of taillight lenses. The grill is chrome and I think in pretty good shape.
>It has a 292 V8 engine and the original transmission. >I am overseas and
I took some pictures last time I was back in the states.


I want the tailgate, absolutely!!! For a reasonable price, of course, since
shipping will be a bear...also, I am interested in the taillight lenses,
and, what-the-heck, the grill, also....Contact me, please...


Dennis Pearson in Kennewick, WA

1962 Unibody, short box, big window--351C
1966 F250 Custom Cab, 352, 4-speed
1962 short stepside (Cadillac 500)
I shortened this to only FT's

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From: Bad4dFilly aol.com
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 18:30:07 EST
Subject: Reply to kids and pups

In a message dated 02/25/2000 6:16:19 PM !!!First Boot!!!,
rsouther alldata.com writes:

<< 'scuse me? As long as they are PROPERLY restrained, it is perfectly legal
to have Fido in the bed of the truck. The constabulatory does frown on
loose pooches because they have been known to fall out... >>

That is true, yet it does happen where the dogs are restrained but they fall
overboard and are hung or dragged. That's why my baby is always in the cab
with me and mo other "baby" is in the back "HWMSBO"> *wink*

*~*~Lisa and Envy~*~*
*~*~Silly boys...trucks are foir gals ~*~*

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From: "Southerland, Rich" alldata.com>
Subject: Re: Reply to kids and pups
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 15:41:43 -0800

That is true, yet it does happen where the dogs are restrained but
they fall
overboard and are hung or dragged. That's why my baby is always in the cab
with me and mo other "baby" is in the back "HWMSBO"> *wink*

Note I did say "PROPERLY". That means the anchor point is in the center of
the bed front AND the lead is not long enough to allow the dog to get over
the side. If dog can barely get his/her schnoz to the side of the bed, then
the length is okay.

FTE content: We installed such a mount in my in-laws '67 F100 and there is
plenty of room in my '77 E150 (although I have been tempted to tether one or
more of the kids to the roof rack! ;-)



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From: canzusseanet.com
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 17:07:30 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: 351c 2v vs 4v

At 06:34 AM 25:02:2000 -0500, Peters, Gary (G.R.) wrote:
>Trust me, you don't want to run the 4v heads and intake on a truck
>application unless you plan to put 4.56 gears and slicks on it. In a
>mustang I don't think it will matter much either way but the 4v cleveland
>will flat wake up in the 3k rpm range and up.....wide awake :-) But it
>sleeps at anything below that.

Believe this is *VERY* accurate....

>I too am looking at the 360 degree offy and no one has responded with
>experience with it yet that I've seen?

I have put them on SBC's, and they worked quite well, but to date
have not seen one run on a Ford. The theory behind the 360 deg.
manifold is that the 1/3 port velocity will keep the A/F mix moving
at a higher speed at low rpm, and the more direct 2/3's port gets
the A/F mix there quicker. Ford is still using this theory on SHO motors
and SVT 2.5L motors.

Just as an asides, I've built Boss302's for a couple of "friends" (you
know the guys, ones who have more money than sense). They are
very disappointed when the engine falls flat on its cam at low rpm.
I hate having to explain how to flog a motor......


Steve & the Rockette
68 F100, 390cid, FMX
63 F100, 292cid, 3speed
72 Capri 2000, hers
73 Capri 2600,tube frame going in.....
73 MGB GT, Our Toy
94 SHO, SWMBO's
98 Contour SVT, Mine, Mine, All Mine....


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From: canzusseanet.com
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 17:07:34 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: trimming posts

At 07:27 AM 25:02:2000 PST, gene gardner wrote:

>When you include the original message in your reply, you should always trim
>it to just a few lines (just enough to give a general idea of what you're
>responding to). How, you ask?
>

Gotta agree here, also try to put a line (hit enter) between your replies
and the quoted text. Please?

Steve & the Rockette
68 F100, 390cid, FMX
63 F100, 292cid, 3speed
72 Capri 2000, hers
73 Capri 2600,tube frame going in.....
73 MGB GT, Our Toy
94 SHO, SWMBO's
98 Contour SVT, Mine, Mine, All Mine....


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From: canzusseanet.com
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 17:22:17 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: Reply to kids and pups

At 06:30 PM 25:02:2000 EST, Bad4dFillyaol.com wrote:

>That is true, yet it does happen where the dogs are restrained but they fall
>overboard and are hung or dragged.

Have had this happen to a good friends dog, not good.

>That's why my baby is always in the cab
>with me

That brings up a question, why the hell do people put
Man's Best Friend in the bed of thier trucks? You saying
they're not good enough to ride in the cab?? My Great Unc
was a huntin' shootin' fishin' guide. His customers rode in
the back of the truck,(47 F1), the dogs rode with him, in the
cab. He used to say at the beginning of each hunt " If you
shoot one of my dogs, I'll shoot you." People believed him,
trouble is, he probably would.....

Steve & the Rockette
68 F100, 390cid, FMX
63 F100, 292cid, 3speed
72 Capri 2000, hers
73 Capri 2600,tube frame going in.....
73 MGB GT, Our Toy
94 SHO, SWMBO's
98 Contour SVT, Mine, Mine, All Mine....


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Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 17:38:52 -0700
From: "Kiernan, Denny" wenet.net>
Subject: Re: trimming posts

canzusseanet.com wrote:
>
> At 07:27 AM 25:02:2000 PST, gene gardner wrote:
>
> >When you include the original message in your reply, you should always trim
> >it to just a few lines (just enough to give a general idea of what you're
> >responding to). How, you ask?
> >
>
> Gotta agree here, also try to put a line (hit enter) between your replies
> and the quoted text. Please?


I dont understand this. You didn't put a line between your reply and the
quoted text. Or do you mean a line space?

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From: TBeeeeaol.com
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 20:53:40 EST
Subject: Re: trimming posts

> > Gotta agree here, also try to put a line (hit enter) between your replies
> > and the quoted text. Please?
>
>
> I dont understand this. You didn't put a line between your reply and the
> quoted text. Or do you mean a line space?

Most e-mail packages use standard quoting symbols. Mine uses the ">" in
front of each line of text to denote quoted text. There's no need to
re-invent the wheel here.

Stock Man
1967 F-250 FE 390 4wd
1966 F-250 I6 240 2wd LWB Flare Side
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From: "Ted Stringfellow" datasync.com>
Subject: Re: Drop spindels
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 20:49:09 -0600

Hi Conchi'
Guess what I dont know what happen but I was starting to write you a letter
and then the computer missed me up. I was not too sure if the message went
on the line. Please let me know. This is my second letter to you. I was
replying your message. Hi to Pete and the kids. Rosie
----- Original Message -----
From: "Andrew Doering" pgn.com>
To: <61-79-listford-trucks.com>
Sent: Friday, February 25, 2000 12:12 PM
Subject: [61-79-list] Drop spindels


> Anyone know where to get dropped spindels for a 73-79 ford truck?
>
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From: "Tim and Pam Allgire" williams-net.com>
Subject: Re: Steering stabilizer for E150?
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 23:48:25 -0500

You didn't mention how wide your tires are on your truck.The wider the tires
the worse it will get about following grooves in the road.The stabilizer
should help a little.
-----Original Message-----
From: Southerland, Rich alldata.com>
To: '61-79-listford-trucks.com' <61-79-listford-trucks.com>
Date: Friday, February 25, 2000 1:53 PM
Subject: [61-79-list] Steering stabilizer for E150?


>Years ago, I installed a steering stabilizer on my (at the time) boss's '86
>E350. He raved over it, said it made the van much more pleasureable to
>drive.
>
>Fast forward to today, I have a '77 E150. It likes to follow grooves in
the
>road and seems to require constant correction. Might a stabilizer be a
good
>idea here? (The front end and gearbox are not sloppy.)
>
>I can't seem to find steering stabilizers listed for pre '82 E150's.
ASFAIK,
>the suspension didn't really change. Anyone offer any insight?
>
>Rich
>
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Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 17:50:50 -0500
Subject: Re: Drop spindels
From: Jeff Simmons juno.com>

Andrew, I've haven't heard of anyone making drop spindles for the twin
I-beam yet, As far as I know they only make the lowered I-beams. I have a
set of dream beams on my 71',
I do wish I could lower It one or two more inches up front, A dropped
spindle would do the trick.
Jeff in KC

On Fri, 25 Feb 2000 10:12:17 -0800 "Andrew Doering"
pgn.com> writes:
> Anyone know where to get dropped spindels for a 73-79 ford truck?
>
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Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 18:11:26 -0500
Subject: Re: [61-79-list]Kids and dogs
From: Jeff Simmons juno.com>

One cool damp morning I went out and started my 71' and heard the
strangest noise, so I shut the truck off to see what was the problem.
Then all of a sudden a cat came flying out from under my truck. I opened
the hood to what took place, well belts were out of the right grooves and
fur was all over my very clean engine compartment. That thing is going to
pay one of these days.
Now lets make this the end of the cat stories please.
Jeff in KC

On Fri, 25 Feb 2000 13:35:59 -0800 "Bill Deacon" surfside.net>
writes:
> Hello,this is a '61-'79 Ford truck site--Not "Pets are
> Us"
> I can tell the breed of a cat just by the sound it makes when I run
> over it
> with my Ford Truck---How's that?
>
>
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Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 17:55:37 -0500
Subject: Re: Off topic, cats and dogs....GRRRRRRr!#$#$#$##
From: Jeff Simmons juno.com>

I'm glad somebody finally spoke up, thank you!!!!!!!!!

On Fri, 25 Feb 2000 13:42:42 -0500 "Tim and Pam Allgire"
williams-net.com> writes:
> What in the heck did this have to do with a '61-'79 Ford truck???? If
> you
> guys want to talk about other stuff why don't you get ICQ.com or
> send it out
> by your regular E-mail address.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peters, Gary (G.R.) visteon.com>
> To: '61-79-listford-trucks.com' <61-79-listford-trucks.com>
> Date: Friday, February 25, 2000 7:12 AM
> Subject: [61-79-list] Re: Off topic, cats and
> dogs....GRRRRRRr!#$#$#$##
>
>
> >Not in my yard or trash bags they don't! Can you imagine city
> mangers
> being
> >so blind that they insist that you use trash bags instead of cans
> or
> >dumpsters in a city full of inconsiderate dog and cat owners and
> then fine
> >you for littering when they tear it up while you sleep??? I'm so
> glad I
> >live in the country where I can keep my trash in a large dumpster,
> out of
> >reach of inconsiderate cat owner's cats! (note, I'm not smiling
> here) I
> >once told my neighbor that if my dog happened to get out and get
> into his
> >stuff he should shoot it because I would rather not have one if it
> gets
> into
> >other peoples stuff. He, of course declined as would I if my
> neighbors had
> >come to me in that manner and had made the slightest effort to
> control
> their
> >pets......Instead I warned THEM that I would shoot to kill if they
> didn't
> >control them and the healthy trees in my yard are testimony that I
> meant
> >what I said.
> >
> >I'm not a mean person but I won't sit idle and watch my property be
> >destroyed by pets of inconsiderate, pompous, biggots and that after
> many
> >warnings. But don't worry, I no longer own a gun of any kind, I
> finally
> >realized I don't have the right personality for it....but I have
> other
> >ways......:-) Not many loose cats around where I live anymore for
> some
> >reason.....or coons or ground hogs either :-)
> >
> >When God made all these animals they were in balance and were not
> bred and
> >fed by inconsiderate humans. There was no mistake on his part, he
> had a
> >good plan. We know where the problem came from don't we?
> >
> >--
> >Michigan, Pot Hole Jumping,
> >78 Bronco Loving, Gary
> >--
> >
> >>Now there I have to disagree with you. Cats are hunters, they're
> God's
> >>creatures, and they do need to roam.
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From: "Kim" arn.net>
Subject: Tapping insanity
Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 08:28:58 -0600

First time writing to the list, so please feel free to whack me over the
head with the appropriate torque wrench if I get outta line :-)...

I'm used to the usual repairs --- brakes, U-joints, pumps, etc. that don't
really involve the inner workings of the engine. Well, the '76 F-150 with a
390 had to sit on the driveway for months since the starter went out, and
replacing that thing is a headache because of the headers. Really a two
person, one full day job. Anyway, replaced the starter, and the truck
started up wonderfully, but also entertained us with a loud, consistant
metal-to-metal tapping. Shut her down, checked oil pressure and level (on
target), pulled the valve covers and ran her again. Plenty of oil going
through and couldn't see anything obviously wrong, so I shut her down again.

The tapping is definately not a detonation problem --- just a clean, loud,
medium-pitched consistant tapping. It sounds pretty even on both sides, so
hard to say if it could be coming from one side of the block versus another.
I'd also swear it was originating lower than the valves, but that's getting
more into the relm of speculation. It's certainly not the higher-pitched
valve tapping. Any ideas of what I should look for next? I love this old
beast, and am gruntingly driving the "new" 79 Blazer around to get from here
to there.

Hopefully I can be of a help later on instead of hoping for it :-). Thanks
much in advanced!

Kim



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From: "Jason & Kathy Kendrick" mddc.com>
Subject: Re: Tapping insanity
Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 10:18:36 -0600

Kim, welcome to the list! FE fuel pumps sometimes make a knocking sound.
I'm not sure why, but they do, and it has caused many people great concern
over nothing. Have you heard of a mechanics stethascope? You can use one of
these to pinpiont where the noise is coming from. Or you could use a wooden
dowel, long metal rod, etc.. Place one end on the suspected noise-maker,
hold the other end in your hand, and hold your hand against your ear. Just
please be carefull around those moving parts!

Subject: [61-79-list] Tapping insanity


Well, the '76 F-150 with a 390 had to sit on the driveway for months since
the starter went out. Anyway, replaced the starter, and the truck started up
wonderfully, but also entertained us with a loud, consistant metal-to-metal
tapping. Shut her down, checked oil pressure and level (on target), pulled
the valve covers and ran her again. Plenty of oil going through and
couldn't see anything obviously wrong, so I shut her down again.

The tapping is definately not a detonation problem --- just a clean, loud,
medium-pitched consistant tapping. It sounds pretty even on both sides, so
hard to say if it could be coming from one side of the block versus another.
I'd also swear it was originating lower than the valves, but that's getting
more into the relm of speculation. It's certainly not the higher-pitched
valve tapping. Any ideas of what I should look for next? I love this old
beast, and am gruntingly driving the "new" 79 Blazer around to get from here
to there.

Kim



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Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 11:01:25 -0800 (PST)
From: Daniel Koster yahoo.com>
Subject: Tranny Question - help!



I have a nice offer on a c-6 in my area.

I would be mating it to a '61 390. It is an '82.

I know we just had a discussion about this, but it was too lengthy for me to
put any one opinion together.

What do you guys think?

Should I go for it?


Thanks,

Dan








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From: "Hogan, Tom" kla-tencor.com>
Subject: Re: Tapping insanity
Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 11:36:08 -0800


>
> First time writing to the list, so please feel free to whack
> me over the
> head with the appropriate torque wrench if I get outta line :-)...

Welcom Kim.

>
> Well, the '76 F-150 with a
> 390 had to sit on the driveway for months since the starter
> went out,

> Anyway, replaced the starter, and the truck
> started up wonderfully, but also entertained us with a loud,
> consistant
> metal-to-metal tapping. Shut her down, checked oil pressure
> and level (on
> target), pulled the valve covers and ran her again. Plenty
> of oil going
> through and couldn't see anything obviously wrong, so I shut
> her down again.
>
> The tapping is definately not a detonation problem --- just a
> clean, loud,
> medium-pitched consistant tapping. It sounds pretty even on
> both sides, so
> hard to say if it could be coming from one side of the block
> versus another.
> I'd also swear it was originating lower than the valves, but
> that's getting
> more into the relm of speculation. It's certainly not the
> higher-pitched
> valve tapping. Any ideas of what I should look for next? I
> love this old
> beast, and am gruntingly driving the "new" 79 Blazer around
> to get from here
> to there.
>

I've got the same beast in my driveway. Driven it cross country twice.
Can't beat it for reliability. I've gotten a 94 T-bird for the daily
commute for better economy and to allow me to restore the "green beast".
Since I don't drive the truck as often now when I do start it it has been
sitting for quite a while usually. I also hear a metallic rattling on
startup. I've always attributed it to dry lifters rattling. It always goes
away within the first minute. How long did you run your motor? I hate to
suggest this without seeing the motor but if it was a light rattling/tapping
noise you might consider letting it run for a little while and see if the
noise goes away. By little while I mean 2 min. or less.

Good luck. Hope it is just lifter rattle. If so it's normal for an engine
that has sit for a while. If you drive it every day it doesn't happen cause
the lifters don't loose all their oil overnight.

Tom H

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