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Received: with LISTAR (v0.128a; list 61-79-list); Sat, 26 Feb 2000 14:34:36 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 14:34:36 -0500 (EST) From: Ford Truck Enthusiasts List Server To: 61-79-list digest users Reply-to: 61-79-list  ford-trucks.com Subject: 61-79-list Digest V2000 #19 Precedence: bulk ========================================================== Ford Truck Enthusiasts 1961-1979 Truck Mailing List Visit our web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ford-trucks.com with the words "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the subject of the message. ========================================================== ------------------------------------ 61-79-list Digest Fri, 25 Feb 2000 Volume: 2000 Issue: 019 In This Issue: Re: Drop spindels Steering Stabilizer Re: Steering stabilizer for E150? Re: Power Steering Re: Steering stabilizer for E150? Re: Steering Stabilizer Re: Power Steering Re: Steering stabilizer for E150? Re: Steering Stabilizer Re: [61-79-list]Kids and dogs Re: Ridin in the back memories (kinda long) Re: [61-79-list]Kids and dogs Re: Carpeting for a 74 F-250 Which Dunes? Re: [Re: Parting out 62 Ford] Reply to kids and pups Re: Reply to kids and pups Re: 351c 2v vs 4v Re: trimming posts Re: Reply to kids and pups Re: trimming posts Re: trimming posts Re: Drop spindels Re: Steering stabilizer for E150? Re: Drop spindels Re: [61-79-list]Kids and dogs Re: Off topic, cats and dogs....GRRRRRRr! #$#$#$## Tapping insanity Re: Tapping insanity Tranny Question - help! Re: Tapping insanity ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 11:09:42 -0800 From: "Andrew Doering" Subject: Re: Drop spindels Thanks for the reply. Drew 65 F100 390 (in progress) >>> OAI Electronics: Paul Rozell Andrew, I just searched and found www.fatmanfab.com I haven't had a chance to look but as I said I was told they have what you need. Paul Rozell 65 F100 460 C6 > Anyone know where to get dropped spindels for a 73-79 ford truck? > > ========================================================== ========================================================== To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ford-trucks.com with the words "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the body of the message. ------------------------------ From: prozell oaielectronics.com (OAI Electronics: Paul Rozell) Subject: Steering Stabilizer Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 13:41:09 -0600 Do they make a steering stabilizer for 65 F100's??? If so who carries them. Paul Rozell 65 F100 460 C6 ------------------------------ From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)" Subject: Re: Steering stabilizer for E150? Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 14:30:39 -0500 I put a stabilizer on my 75 but after converting it to 4wd. Since the tie rod is in the same place in both applications I would venture that the same kit will fit your application. Seems like it was just a universal Rancho kit with a few generic brackets in it to mount it to the frame but can't remember for sure. They aren't hard to put on. The wandering problem may be an indication of binding king pins or even unevenly worn tires. Do you rotate your tires regularly? I didn't used to but do now religiously since I have seen what it can do for you. In my experience, vans seem to be more prone to this than other vehicles for some reason but all of mine have been old and worn so not a good comparison I guess. -- Michigan, Pot Hole Jumping, 78 Bronco Loving, Gary -- >Fast forward to today, I have a '77 E150. It likes to follow >grooves in the >road and seems to require constant correction. Might a >stabilizer be a good >idea here? (The front end and gearbox are not sloppy.) ------------------------------ From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)" Subject: Re: Power Steering Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 14:34:40 -0500 If you mean too much power then a heavier spring in the control valve might slow it down but this is a job for someone who has some mechanical experience and will require complete tear down of the box. You can add stabalizers to add resistance or increase caster or decrease camber to nearly zero too but may have handling problems with the caster change if you add too much. Stabalizers will have the effect to of reducing the system's "return to center" properties and you may experience some wandering due to "over" stabalizing. -- Michigan, Pot Hole Jumping, 78 Bronco Loving, Gary -- >Is there any way to tighten up the power steering box or pump. >I love the >power steering in my truck but it is a little to much. I would prefer a >little more resistance, and wanted to know if any one new how to remedy >this. ------------------------------ From: "Southerland, Rich" Subject: Re: Steering stabilizer for E150? Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 11:42:47 -0800 even unevenly worn tires. Do you rotate your tires regularly? Haven't had the van long enough to need rotation yet. it had been sitting for 4 years prior to us getting it on the road late this summer. The tires seemed to be wearing fine and had excellent tread, but 2 were starting to seperate and all 4 were weather checked, so I replaced them last month with 6 ply light truck tires. I will check the king pins, the guy I got it from was a fanatic about maintaining it until gas got too expensive and they parked the van. ------------------------------ From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)" Subject: Re: Steering Stabilizer Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 14:37:33 -0500 I bought mine at auto parts over the counter. Just a generic kit. Dick Cepek also handles a wide variety of kits but is higher quality and more pricy generally. I bought two shocks for $36 each a while back from him. (got it figured out but not installed yet) -- Michigan, Pot Hole Jumping, 78 Bronco Loving, Gary -- >Do they make a steering stabilizer for 65 F100's??? >If so who carries them. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 12:05:37 -0800 From: John Lord Subject: Re: Power Steering It is possible but i recommend a shop that knows what their doing. There are specific measurements of how strong your steering is. It is done using a spring scale on the steering wheel and measuring the drag in inch pounds in each direction. (the pitman arm is disconnected from the rest of the steering while this is done) If it does not meet specs, it is changed by adding or removing shims from the control valve assembly. So in theory you can adjust your steering. all you want as long as you don't exceed he maximum amount of shims. As a note. the spool valve does not have an equal surface area on both sides (left & right turn) one side has a small shaft used to guide it and help control. because of this you find that the pressure required to turn right is less the when turning left. All of the above is listed in the ford shop manuals. OAI Electronics: Paul Rozell wrote: > Hey All, > Is there any way to tighten up the power steering box or pump. I love the > power steering in my truck but it is a little to much. I would prefer a > little more resistance, and wanted to know if any one new how to remedy > this. > > Paul Rozell > 65 F100 460 C6 > > ========================================================== > To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ford-trucks.com with > the words "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the body of the > message. ------------------------------ From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)" Subject: Re: Steering stabilizer for E150? Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 15:07:29 -0500 Sitting for 4 years almost guarantees that it is the kingpins. Even with fresh grease in them they will dry out when they sit very long and will seize up. I'm not foolish enough to bet my life on it but I'm pretty sure you will find at least one that won't take grease and if you disconnect the tie rods at the steering arm I bet at least one of the wheels will not move easily. The only way to really test this is to disconnect the tie rods from both steering arms with the proper tool, not a tuning fork and then attempt to "steer" each one separately by hand. They should move with one little finger in them from stop to stop. -- Michigan, Pot Hole Jumping, 78 Bronco Loving, Gary -- >I will check the king pins, the guy I got it from was a fanatic about >maintaining it until gas got too expensive and they parked the van. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 15:11:00 -0500 From: Ted Wnorowski Subject: Re: Steering Stabilizer LMC: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.lmctruck.com/ has them for '48-'52, '53-'56 2WD, F100 - F250 $59.95. '57-'64 F100 - F250 2WD $59.95. F100 '59-'65 4WD. F250 '59-'72 4WD $49.95. F100 '66-'72 4WD $49.95. F100-F250 '65-'72 2WD $79.95. Under LMC's part # sticker it says they're made by TRW in the good 'ole USA. + I faxed my order EARLY Sunday morning (about 1 am) and got it by Wednesday. That was from Kansas to north central Ohio. Phone # is 1-800-222-5664. Hope this helps, Ted Wnorowski Bellevue,OH '64 F-250 OAI Electronics: Paul Rozell wrote: > Do they make a steering stabilizer for 65 F100's??? > If so who carries them. > > Paul Rozell > 65 F100 460 C6 > > ========================================================== > To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ford-trucks.com with > the words "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the body of the > message. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 12:29:24 -0700 From: "Kiernan, Denny" Subject: Re: [61-79-list]Kids and dogs Southerland, Rich wrote: > 'scuse me? As long as they are PROPERLY restrained, it is perfectly legal > to have Fido in the bed of the truck. The constabulatory does frown on > loose pooches because they have been known to fall out... I fell out the back of a truck when I was about 14, busted my glasses and had to go to the hospital for some stitches on my forehead. But it happened because I was getting off the truck when it came to a stop, and misjudged his speed. Even if we had had seat belts in those days, it wouldn't have made any difference. I still think it ought to be up to the person whether they want to ride in the back of a truck or not. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 14:48:15 -0700 From: "Richard Currit" Subject: Re: Ridin in the back memories (kinda long) >Back in those days, a kid or a dog could ride in the >back of a pick-up. I dont know about the rest of the >country, but in California they're not allowed to >anymore. Those days still exist here in Wyoming. Course, we're rather anti-regulatory in these parts. Heres a back of the truck story I read in the paper not long ago. Seems some kids in a small town (I think it was up in the Bighorn Basin) were out riding around one night. They had a rope tied to the trailer hitch and were taking turns lasooing orange road cones. (We also have to make our own entertainment). Well, one of em threw the rope around a real estate "house for sale" sign. Its quite a bit heavier than an orange cone. The slack came out of the rope and stretched it out, the sign came loose and the rope acted like a rubber band, sign hit him in the head. Forget how many stitches he needed. Makes me laugh everytime I think about it. Wish I could have been there when he tried to explain it to his Dad. Of course I've never done anything that dumb. Except maybe the time we lined the bed of an F-250 with plastic and filled it with water on a hot summer day. Was pretty cool cruisin around town. Till the driver stomped on the throttle taking off from a stop sign. Four of us hit the tailgate in the middle of what seemed like a tidal wave. Gate came open. There we were, soakin wet, sittin in a heap in the middle of the intersection. Glad there were no witnesses. High Plains (lucky to be alive) Richard '72 F-100 ------------------------------ From: "Bill Deacon" Subject: Re: [61-79-list]Kids and dogs Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 13:35:59 -0800 I can tell the breed of a cat just by the sound it makes when I run over it with my Ford Truck---How's that? ------------------------------ From: FORDTRKNUT aol.com Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 17:16:37 EST Subject: Re: Carpeting for a 74 F-250 I have a 1979 F-350 4x4 and bought carpet for it a few years ago. I bought mine from Auto Custom Carpet, somewhere down south (SC maybe). It is a perfect fit, because its a one piece molded. Not that two piece junk. It even goes all the way under the seat!! It's exactly like the factory carpet, the fine cut pile type. I even bought 3 yards extra to do my kick panels & the bottom of the doors. I recommend them. I think they have a web site too. Check Yahoo for it. If there are any questions...just ask!! Wayne Grabley ------------------------------ From: "Robert Werner" Subject: Which Dunes? Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 22:44:27 +0000 I'm talking about the ones at the Silver Lake State park, On the west coast. Robert ------------------------------ Date: 25 Feb 00 14:50:16 PST From: shawn tayloe Subject: Re: [Re: Parting out 62 Ford] I'll contact my brother in law and let him know that you want those parts. I'll also ask him to talk to the cops to see if they will release the truck. It has been almost 6 months in the impound lot. There doesn't seem to be much hope rebuilding the interior of the truck. The fire was really hot. They grabbed a picnic table and busted it up and then siphoned the gas. Everything on the inside is melted. All of the windows are broken out. Dennis Pearson Thanks for your message at 05:03 PM 2/24/00 PST, shawn tayloe. Your message was: It is a F100 custom cab >with the uni-body. The tailgate is still good on it and I have a couple sets >of taillight lenses. The grill is chrome and I think in pretty good shape. >It has a 292 V8 engine and the original transmission. >I am overseas and I took some pictures last time I was back in the states. I want the tailgate, absolutely!!! For a reasonable price, of course, since shipping will be a bear...also, I am interested in the taillight lenses, and, what-the-heck, the grill, also....Contact me, please... Dennis Pearson in Kennewick, WA 1962 Unibody, short box, big window--351C 1966 F250 Custom Cab, 352, 4-speed 1962 short stepside (Cadillac 500) I shortened this to only FT's http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://home.att.net/~dlpearson/levi.htm ========================================================== To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ford-trucks.com with the words "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the body of the message. ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://webmail.netscape.com. ------------------------------ From: Bad4dFilly aol.com Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 18:30:07 EST Subject: Reply to kids and pups In a message dated 02/25/2000 6:16:19 PM !!!First Boot!!!, rsouther alldata.com writes: << 'scuse me? As long as they are PROPERLY restrained, it is perfectly legal to have Fido in the bed of the truck. The constabulatory does frown on loose pooches because they have been known to fall out... >> That is true, yet it does happen where the dogs are restrained but they fall overboard and are hung or dragged. That's why my baby is always in the cab with me and mo other "baby" is in the back *~*~Lisa and Envy~*~* *~*~Silly boys...trucks are foir gals ------------------------------ From: "Southerland, Rich" Subject: Re: Reply to kids and pups Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 15:41:43 -0800 they fall overboard and are hung or dragged. That's why my baby is always in the cab with me and mo other "baby" is in the back Note I did say "PROPERLY". That means the anchor point is in the center of the bed front AND the lead is not long enough to allow the dog to get over the side. If dog can barely get his/her schnoz to the side of the bed, then the length is okay. FTE content: We installed such a mount in my in-laws '67 F100 and there is plenty of room in my '77 E150 (although I have been tempted to tether one or more of the kids to the roof rack! ;-) ------------------------------ From: canzus seanet.comDate: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 17:07:30 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: 351c 2v vs 4v At 06:34 AM 25:02:2000 -0500, Peters, Gary (G.R.) wrote: >Trust me, you don't want to run the 4v heads and intake on a truck >application unless you plan to put 4.56 gears and slicks on it. In a >mustang I don't think it will matter much either way but the 4v cleveland >will flat wake up in the 3k rpm range and up.....wide awake :-) But it >sleeps at anything below that. Believe this is *VERY* accurate.... >I too am looking at the 360 degree offy and no one has responded with >experience with it yet that I've seen? I have put them on SBC's, and they worked quite well, but to date have not seen one run on a Ford. The theory behind the 360 deg. manifold is that the 1/3 port velocity will keep the A/F mix moving at a higher speed at low rpm, and the more direct 2/3's port gets the A/F mix there quicker. Ford is still using this theory on SHO motors and SVT 2.5L motors. Just as an asides, I've built Boss302's for a couple of "friends" (you know the guys, ones who have more money than sense). They are very disappointed when the engine falls flat on its cam at low rpm. I hate having to explain how to flog a motor...... Steve & the Rockette 68 F100, 390cid, FMX 63 F100, 292cid, 3speed 72 Capri 2000, hers 73 Capri 2600,tube frame going in..... 73 MGB GT, Our Toy 94 SHO, SWMBO's 98 Contour SVT, Mine, Mine, All Mine.... ------------------------------ From: canzus seanet.comDate: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 17:07:34 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: trimming posts At 07:27 AM 25:02:2000 PST, gene gardner wrote: >When you include the original message in your reply, you should always trim >it to just a few lines (just enough to give a general idea of what you're >responding to). How, you ask? > Gotta agree here, also try to put a line (hit enter) between your replies and the quoted text. Please? Steve & the Rockette 68 F100, 390cid, FMX 63 F100, 292cid, 3speed 72 Capri 2000, hers 73 Capri 2600,tube frame going in..... 73 MGB GT, Our Toy 94 SHO, SWMBO's 98 Contour SVT, Mine, Mine, All Mine.... ------------------------------ From: canzus seanet.comDate: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 17:22:17 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Reply to kids and pups At 06:30 PM 25:02:2000 EST, Bad4dFilly aol.com wrote:>That is true, yet it does happen where the dogs are restrained but they fall >overboard and are hung or dragged. Have had this happen to a good friends dog, not good. >That's why my baby is always in the cab >with me That brings up a question, why the hell do people put Man's Best Friend in the bed of thier trucks? You saying they're not good enough to ride in the cab?? My Great Unc was a huntin' shootin' fishin' guide. His customers rode in the back of the truck,(47 F1), the dogs rode with him, in the cab. He used to say at the beginning of each hunt " If you shoot one of my dogs, I'll shoot you." People believed him, trouble is, he probably would..... Steve & the Rockette 68 F100, 390cid, FMX 63 F100, 292cid, 3speed 72 Capri 2000, hers 73 Capri 2600,tube frame going in..... 73 MGB GT, Our Toy 94 SHO, SWMBO's 98 Contour SVT, Mine, Mine, All Mine.... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 17:38:52 -0700 From: "Kiernan, Denny" Subject: Re: trimming posts canzus seanet.com wrote:> > At 07:27 AM 25:02:2000 PST, gene gardner wrote: > > >When you include the original message in your reply, you should always trim > >it to just a few lines (just enough to give a general idea of what you're > >responding to). How, you ask? > > > > Gotta agree here, also try to put a line (hit enter) between your replies > and the quoted text. Please? I dont understand this. You didn't put a line between your reply and the quoted text. Or do you mean a line space? ------------------------------ From: TBeeee aol.comDate: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 20:53:40 EST Subject: Re: trimming posts > > Gotta agree here, also try to put a line (hit enter) between your replies > > and the quoted text. Please? > > > I dont understand this. You didn't put a line between your reply and the > quoted text. Or do you mean a line space? Most e-mail packages use standard quoting symbols. Mine uses the ">" in front of each line of text to denote quoted text. There's no need to re-invent the wheel here. Stock Man 1967 F-250 FE 390 4wd 1966 F-250 I6 240 2wd LWB Flare Side http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.hometown.aol.com/tbeeee ------------------------------ From: "Ted Stringfellow" Subject: Re: Drop spindels Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 20:49:09 -0600 Hi Conchi' Guess what I dont know what happen but I was starting to write you a letter and then the computer missed me up. I was not too sure if the message went on the line. Please let me know. This is my second letter to you. I was replying your message. Hi to Pete and the kids. Rosie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Doering" To: <61-79-list ford-trucks.com>Sent: Friday, February 25, 2000 12:12 PM Subject: [61-79-list] Drop spindels > Anyone know where to get dropped spindels for a 73-79 ford truck? > > ========================================================== > To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ford-trucks.com with> the words "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the body of the > message. > ------------------------------ From: "Tim and Pam Allgire" Subject: Re: Steering stabilizer for E150? Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 23:48:25 -0500 You didn't mention how wide your tires are on your truck.The wider the tires the worse it will get about following grooves in the road.The stabilizer should help a little. -----Original Message----- From: Southerland, Rich To: '61-79-list ford-trucks.com' <61-79-listford-trucks.com>Date: Friday, February 25, 2000 1:53 PM Subject: [61-79-list] Steering stabilizer for E150? >Years ago, I installed a steering stabilizer on my (at the time) boss's '86 >E350. He raved over it, said it made the van much more pleasureable to >drive. > >Fast forward to today, I have a '77 E150. It likes to follow grooves in the >road and seems to require constant correction. Might a stabilizer be a good >idea here? (The front end and gearbox are not sloppy.) > >I can't seem to find steering stabilizers listed for pre '82 E150's. ASFAIK, >the suspension didn't really change. Anyone offer any insight? > >Rich > >========================================================== >To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ford-trucks.com with>the words "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the body of the >message. > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 17:50:50 -0500 Subject: Re: Drop spindels From: Jeff Simmons Andrew, I've haven't heard of anyone making drop spindles for the twin I-beam yet, As far as I know they only make the lowered I-beams. I have a set of dream beams on my 71', I do wish I could lower It one or two more inches up front, A dropped spindle would do the trick. Jeff in KC On Fri, 25 Feb 2000 10:12:17 -0800 "Andrew Doering" > Anyone know where to get dropped spindels for a 73-79 ford truck? > > ========================================================== > To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ford-trucks.com with> the words "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the body of the > message. > ________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 18:11:26 -0500 Subject: Re: [61-79-list]Kids and dogs From: Jeff Simmons One cool damp morning I went out and started my 71' and heard the strangest noise, so I shut the truck off to see what was the problem. Then all of a sudden a cat came flying out from under my truck. I opened the hood to what took place, well belts were out of the right grooves and fur was all over my very clean engine compartment. That thing is going to pay one of these days. Now lets make this the end of the cat stories please. Jeff in KC On Fri, 25 Feb 2000 13:35:59 -0800 "Bill Deacon" writes: > > Us" > I can tell the breed of a cat just by the sound it makes when I run > over it > with my Ford Truck---How's that? > > > ========================================================== > To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ford-trucks.com with> the words "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the body of the > message. > ________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 17:55:37 -0500 Subject: Re: Off topic, cats and dogs....GRRRRRRr! #$#$#$##From: Jeff Simmons I'm glad somebody finally spoke up, thank you!!!!!!!!! On Fri, 25 Feb 2000 13:42:42 -0500 "Tim and Pam Allgire" > What in the heck did this have to do with a '61-'79 Ford truck???? If > you > guys want to talk about other stuff why don't you get ICQ.com or > send it out > by your regular E-mail address. > -----Original Message----- > From: Peters, Gary (G.R.) > To: '61-79-list ford-trucks.com' <61-79-listford-trucks.com>> Date: Friday, February 25, 2000 7:12 AM > Subject: [61-79-list] Re: Off topic, cats and > dogs....GRRRRRRr! #$#$#$##> > > >Not in my yard or trash bags they don't! Can you imagine city > mangers > being > >so blind that they insist that you use trash bags instead of cans > or > >dumpsters in a city full of inconsiderate dog and cat owners and > then fine > >you for littering when they tear it up while you sleep??? I'm so > glad I > >live in the country where I can keep my trash in a large dumpster, > out of > >reach of inconsiderate cat owner's cats! (note, I'm not smiling > here) I > >once told my neighbor that if my dog happened to get out and get > into his > >stuff he should shoot it because I would rather not have one if it > gets > into > >other peoples stuff. He, of course declined as would I if my > neighbors had > >come to me in that manner and had made the slightest effort to > control > their > >pets......Instead I warned THEM that I would shoot to kill if they > didn't > >control them and the healthy trees in my yard are testimony that I > meant > >what I said. > > > >I'm not a mean person but I won't sit idle and watch my property be > >destroyed by pets of inconsiderate, pompous, biggots and that after > many > >warnings. But don't worry, I no longer own a gun of any kind, I > finally > >realized I don't have the right personality for it....but I have > other > >ways......:-) Not many loose cats around where I live anymore for > some > >reason.....or coons or ground hogs either :-) > > > >When God made all these animals they were in balance and were not > bred and > >fed by inconsiderate humans. There was no mistake on his part, he > had a > >good plan. We know where the problem came from don't we? > > > >-- > >Michigan, Pot Hole Jumping, > >78 Bronco Loving, Gary > >-- > > > >>Now there I have to disagree with you. Cats are hunters, they're > God's > >>creatures, and they do need to roam. > >========================================================== > >To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ford-trucks.com with> >the words "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the body of the > >message. > > > > ========================================================== > To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ford-trucks.com with> the words "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the body of the > message. > ________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ From: "Kim" Subject: Tapping insanity Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 08:28:58 -0600 First time writing to the list, so please feel free to whack me over the head with the appropriate torque wrench if I get outta line :-)... I'm used to the usual repairs --- brakes, U-joints, pumps, etc. that don't really involve the inner workings of the engine. Well, the '76 F-150 with a 390 had to sit on the driveway for months since the starter went out, and replacing that thing is a headache because of the headers. Really a two person, one full day job. Anyway, replaced the starter, and the truck started up wonderfully, but also entertained us with a loud, consistant metal-to-metal tapping. Shut her down, checked oil pressure and level (on target), pulled the valve covers and ran her again. Plenty of oil going through and couldn't see anything obviously wrong, so I shut her down again. The tapping is definately not a detonation problem --- just a clean, loud, medium-pitched consistant tapping. It sounds pretty even on both sides, so hard to say if it could be coming from one side of the block versus another. I'd also swear it was originating lower than the valves, but that's getting more into the relm of speculation. It's certainly not the higher-pitched valve tapping. Any ideas of what I should look for next? I love this old beast, and am gruntingly driving the "new" 79 Blazer around to get from here to there. Hopefully I can be of a help later on instead of hoping for it :-). Thanks much in advanced! Kim ------------------------------ From: "Jason & Kathy Kendrick" Subject: Re: Tapping insanity Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 10:18:36 -0600 Kim, welcome to the list! FE fuel pumps sometimes make a knocking sound. I'm not sure why, but they do, and it has caused many people great concern over nothing. Have you heard of a mechanics stethascope? You can use one of these to pinpiont where the noise is coming from. Or you could use a wooden dowel, long metal rod, etc.. Place one end on the suspected noise-maker, hold the other end in your hand, and hold your hand against your ear. Just please be carefull around those moving parts! Subject: [61-79-list] Tapping insanity Well, the '76 F-150 with a 390 had to sit on the driveway for months since the starter went out. Anyway, replaced the starter, and the truck started up wonderfully, but also entertained us with a loud, consistant metal-to-metal tapping. Shut her down, checked oil pressure and level (on target), pulled the valve covers and ran her again. Plenty of oil going through and couldn't see anything obviously wrong, so I shut her down again. The tapping is definately not a detonation problem --- just a clean, loud, medium-pitched consistant tapping. It sounds pretty even on both sides, so hard to say if it could be coming from one side of the block versus another. I'd also swear it was originating lower than the valves, but that's getting more into the relm of speculation. It's certainly not the higher-pitched valve tapping. Any ideas of what I should look for next? I love this old beast, and am gruntingly driving the "new" 79 Blazer around to get from here to there. Kim ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 11:01:25 -0800 (PST) From: Daniel Koster Subject: Tranny Question - help! I have a nice offer on a c-6 in my area. I would be mating it to a '61 390. It is an '82. I know we just had a discussion about this, but it was too lengthy for me to put any one opinion together. What do you guys think? Should I go for it? Thanks, Dan __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: "Hogan, Tom" Subject: Re: Tapping insanity Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2000 11:36:08 -0800 > > First time writing to the list, so please feel free to whack > me over the > head with the appropriate torque wrench if I get outta line :-)... Welcom Kim. > > Well, the '76 F-150 with a > 390 had to sit on the driveway for months since the starter > went out, > Anyway, replaced the starter, and the truck > started up wonderfully, but also entertained us with a loud, > consistant > metal-to-metal tapping. Shut her down, checked oil pressure > and level (on > target), pulled the valve covers and ran her again. Plenty > of oil going > through and couldn't see anything obviously wrong, so I shut > her down again. > > The tapping is definately not a detonation problem --- just a > clean, loud, > medium-pitched consistant tapping. It sounds pretty even on > both sides, so > hard to say if it could be coming from one side of the block > versus another. > I'd also swear it was originating lower than the valves, but > that's getting > more into the relm of speculation. It's certainly not the > higher-pitched > valve tapping. Any ideas of what I should look for next? I > love this old > beast, and am gruntingly driving the "new" 79 Blazer around > to get from here > to there. > I've got the same beast in my driveway. Driven it cross country twice. Can't beat it for reliability. I've gotten a 94 T-bird for the daily commute for better economy and to allow me to restore the "green beast". Since I don't drive the truck as often now when I do start it it has been sitting for quite a while usually. I also hear a metallic rattling on startup. I've always attributed it to dry lifters rattling. It always goes away within the first minute. How long did you run your motor? I hate to suggest this without seeing the motor but if it was a light rattling/tapping noise you might consider letting it run for a little while and see if the noise goes away. By little while I mean 2 min. or less. Good luck. Hope it is just lifter rattle. If so it's normal for an engine that has sit for a while. If you drive it every day it doesn't happen cause the lifters don't loose all their oil overnight. Tom H ------------------------------ End of 61-79-list Digest V2000 #19 ********************************** ---------------------------------------------------------- Ford Truck Enthusiasts 1961-1979 Truck Mailing List Send posts to small-list ford-trucks.comIf you ever want to remove yourself from this mailing list, send an email to: listar ford-trucks.comwith the words "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the subject of the message. Visit Our Web Site: http://www.ford-trucks.com ---------------------------------------------------------- .... To access the rest of this feature you must be a logged in Registered User Of Ford Truck Enthusiasts
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