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61-79-list Digest Fri, 25 Feb 2000 Volume: 2000 Issue: 018

In This Issue:
Re: 351c 2v vs 4v
Re: 351c 2v vs 4v
Re: greetings and more manifold questions.
Re: Off topic, cats and dogs....GRRRRRRr! #$#$#$##
Re: U-JOINTS OR REAREND
Re: U-JOINTS OR REAREND
On the road again
Re: car prices
Re: Car prices
Re: U-JOINTS OR REAREND
Re: car prices
Re: Parting out 62 Ford
Re: On the road again
Re: U-JOINTS OR REAREND
air cleaner
Re: U-JOINTS OR REAREND
Re: U-JOINTS OR REAREND
trimming posts
Re: Off topic, cats and dogs....GRRRRRRr! #$#$#$##
Re: U-JOINTS OR REAREND
Re: air cleaner
Re: trimming posts
Re: air cleaner
Re: trimming posts
Re: trimming posts
Re: trimming posts
[61-79-list]Kids and dogs
Drop spindels
Re: [61-79-list]Kids and dogs
Re: Drop spindels
Re: Drop spindels
Power Steering
Re: Off topic, cats and dogs....GRRRRRRr! #$#$#$##
Re: Off topic, cats and dogs....GRRRRRRr! #$#$#$##
Re: [61-79-list]Kids and dogs
Steering stabilizer for E150?
Re: [61-79-list]Kids and dogs
Re: Steering stabilizer for E150?
Re: [61-79-list]Kids and dogs

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From: JJJJJGRANT aol.com
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 01:06:36 EST
Subject: Re: 351c 2v vs 4v

you can buy an aluminum 4v intake for the 2v heads. with a little bit of
exhaust port work the 2v heads will make good low to mid range horsepower.
the 4v heads are good for high rpm horsepower, i ran mine up to 8500 rpm w/4v
heads.

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From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)" visteon.com>
Subject: Re: 351c 2v vs 4v
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 06:34:46 -0500

Trust me, you don't want to run the 4v heads and intake on a truck
application unless you plan to put 4.56 gears and slicks on it. In a
mustang I don't think it will matter much either way but the 4v cleveland
will flat wake up in the 3k rpm range and up.....wide awake :-) But it
sleeps at anything below that.

I too am looking at the 360 degree offy and no one has responded with
experience with it yet that I've seen?

The 335 series is a dry manifold so all manifolds made for it will reflect
that and it's not something you need to worry about since there are no other
engines who's manifolds will fit it. The heads interchange between it and
the small block 302 and windsor but you have to drill some coolant holes and
pay attention to gaskets etc....

Bore spacing and head bolt patterns and pushrod holes are the same but
that's about it :-)

--
Michigan, Pot Hole Jumping,
78 Bronco Loving, Gary
--

>I am putting a 72 351 Cleveland in a 83 mustang.
>
>From what I have learned the 2v setup (intake and heads) is for low end
>torque.
>
>The 4v setup (intake and heads) was for high end torque.

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From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)" visteon.com>
Subject: Re: greetings and more manifold questions.
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 06:44:47 -0500

Leave the 2v heads on it and get a 4v manifold to fit those heads, not the
4v heads.....the ports in the 4v heads will swollow the whole manifold for a
2v......won't fit or work well. You will not be happy with the 4v heads on
a bronco application unless you also add a 871 blower to get the velocity
back up at low rpms.

Does your buddy's manifold have the rochester carb pattern? Is it for a
cleveland or a M? If 351m/400 style I am interested in it and would pay
shipping if he's willing. The engine commonly called the Cleveland has a
lower deck height than the M and requires a different manifold.

--
Michigan, Pot Hole Jumping,
78 Bronco Loving, Gary
--

>you. My current project is a 351 Cleveland to be fitted in my
>old bronco.

> But, a buddy
>of mine has an offenhauser 360 degree manifold for this engine
>he'll let go
>for $100.

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From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)" visteon.com>
Subject: Re: Off topic, cats and dogs....GRRRRRRr! #$#$#$##
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 07:08:50 -0500

Not in my yard or trash bags they don't! Can you imagine city mangers being
so blind that they insist that you use trash bags instead of cans or
dumpsters in a city full of inconsiderate dog and cat owners and then fine
you for littering when they tear it up while you sleep??? I'm so glad I
live in the country where I can keep my trash in a large dumpster, out of
reach of inconsiderate cat owner's cats! (note, I'm not smiling here) I
once told my neighbor that if my dog happened to get out and get into his
stuff he should shoot it because I would rather not have one if it gets into
other peoples stuff. He, of course declined as would I if my neighbors had
come to me in that manner and had made the slightest effort to control their
pets......Instead I warned THEM that I would shoot to kill if they didn't
control them and the healthy trees in my yard are testimony that I meant
what I said.

I'm not a mean person but I won't sit idle and watch my property be
destroyed by pets of inconsiderate, pompous, biggots and that after many
warnings. But don't worry, I no longer own a gun of any kind, I finally
realized I don't have the right personality for it....but I have other
ways......:-) Not many loose cats around where I live anymore for some
reason.....or coons or ground hogs either :-)

When God made all these animals they were in balance and were not bred and
fed by inconsiderate humans. There was no mistake on his part, he had a
good plan. We know where the problem came from don't we?

--
Michigan, Pot Hole Jumping,
78 Bronco Loving, Gary
--

>Now there I have to disagree with you. Cats are hunters, they're God's
>creatures, and they do need to roam.

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From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)" visteon.com>
Subject: Re: U-JOINTS OR REAREND
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 07:19:38 -0500

I've had them go dry and because there was no lube they rusted and then
would pop and chatter as they rotated causing a vibration but there was no
play in them at all and then suddenly all the bearings fall out and the
ujoint will move almost to the point of falling off! Now that's scary! I
say, if in doubt, change them :-)

--
Michigan, Pot Hole Jumping,
78 Bronco Loving, Gary
--

>If you have a bad u-joint, you ought to be able to push/pull/shake the
>driveshaft by hand near each of the u-joints and see or feel
>the bad one.

------------------------------

From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)" visteon.com>
Subject: Re: U-JOINTS OR REAREND
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 07:38:18 -0500

Several other things to look at while you are down there are the yokes
attachment to the input and output shafts on the rear end and tranny and
also rear end gear lash. There is only supposed to be about 0.008"
clearance between the pinion and ring gear. Most old trucks will have some
wear and at some point it begins to cause a mismatch of the involute
geometry of the gear teeth so the no longer slide smoothely but click and
clack causing a vibration you can feel.

Ujoints usually show up at cruise speeds above 45 mph or so but ring gear
wear should show more under power as will a loose yoke but a loose yoke may
be felt at cruise too and decelleration When checking for gear lash,
remember that the axle splines and spider gears all add to the sensation so
you "should" feel much more than 0.008" free play in the rear end. The only
way I know to be sure is to pull it and check the gear lash by itself.

--
Michigan, Pot Hole Jumping,
78 Bronco Loving, Gary
--

>way to go with trouble shooting. I have been having some noise
>from the rear
>end of my truck under acceleration. At first this noise sounded like
>bearings "singing". Now it feels almost like there is some
>slight vibration

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From: prozell oaielectronics.com (OAI Electronics: Paul Rozell)
Subject: On the road again
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 08:16:12 -0600

Hey All,
Got my 65 back on the road today. Had it apart to put new cab to frame
mounts, shocks on all 4 corners, floor pan etc. I have been fixing all the
seams and doing some body work. Changed the rear u-joints last night and got
it ready to drive today. Almost forgot how much I enjoyed driving my truck.
I tend to drive it a little slower and more relaxed than I do my other
vehicles(manufacturers names I wont mention). The rush hour traffic to work
wasn't bad(or my perception of it). Life is truly good when you can drive a
vehicle that you really enjoy. Although I did enjoy the on-ramp to the
highway where I did get the oportunity to dust a new D #ge truck!!!! Then
slowed down to my regular cruise and let him pass, just to keep a little of
his vehicles mucho $$$ pride.

Paul
65 F100 460 C6.


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Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 08:25:59 -0600
Subject: Re: car prices
From: "John LaGrone" ford-trucks.com>

> John LaGrone wrote:
>
>> I have two cats and they never leave the house. Ever, except in the carrier
>> to go to the vet. Cats and dogs do not need to run loose any more than
>> children need to run loose.
>
> But children do need to run loose, unless they're going to grow up to be
> neurotic wrecks.
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Children do not need to run loose unattended in restaurants, the
neighborhood, grocery stores, the mall.... Most decisions I have seen made
by parents regarding children are made in the best interest of the parents,
not the children. If you don't want to properly supervise a pet, don't get
one. If you don't want to properly raise and supervise a child YOURSELF,
don't have one.

I've worked in the public schools for 21 years now. I haven't missed much.

-- John
jlagrone ford-trucks.com <]:-) <]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)
1979 F150 Custom, Long Wide Bed, Regular Cab, 351M, C6 (Henry)
http://www.ford-trucks.com/jlagrone/henry.home.htm
Dearborn iron rules!!!!


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Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 06:46:13 -0800
From: Dennis Pearson ctc.edu>
Subject: Re: Car prices

Thanks for your message at 11:33 AM 2/24/00 -0800, Southerland, Rich. Your
message was:
>Luckily for me, my wife understands completely. She loves her '77 E150 (we
>got for free) and I am slowly fixing it up for her. Her best friend (who
>just bought a 2000 C*ravan) was visiting yesterday and was giving her a
>little grief:
>"Why doesn't your husband buy you a new vehicle instead of that old thing?"
>
>Her reply:
>"I wouldn't trade you straight up. We have less into that van than you paid
>in sales tax for yours."

...and it takes a strong person not to succumb to the constant barrage of
pressure (some subtle, some not so subtle) to buy that brand new
Whatever-it-is for the sole reason of being like (but ahead of) everyone
else. My wife appreciates my love of older vehicles, but also loves her
'96 Windstar (not brand new, but very new for my tastes). I guess she just
doesn't appreciate the effort it takes to turn that darn steering
wheel...In fact she also has no appreciation for my stoplight-to-stoplight
trophy dashes. She just shakes her head and says, "This must be a 'guy
thing.'" I guess we are all competitive in one way or another. Some
people need to have the newest roundest car; some people need to get to
that next light before they guy in the next lane. I should grow up one of
these days...
Dennis Pearson in Kennewick, WA

1962 Unibody, short box, big window--351C
1966 F250 Custom Cab, 352, 4-speed
1962 short stepside (Cadillac 500)
I shortened this to only FT's

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://home.att.net/~dlpearson/levi.htm

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Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 06:51:13 -0800
From: Dennis Pearson ctc.edu>
Subject: Re: U-JOINTS OR REAREND

Thanks for your message at 03:28 PM 2/24/00 -0600, John LaGrone. Your
message was:
>> I just don't want to miss diagnos the problem
>> and get caught out in traffic with a bad rear end.

...this is too easy...There are very few things worse than a bad rear end...



Dennis Pearson in Kennewick, WA

1962 Unibody, short box, big window--351C
1966 F250 Custom Cab, 352, 4-speed
1962 short stepside (Cadillac 500)
I shortened this to only FT's

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://home.att.net/~dlpearson/levi.htm

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 06:52:33 -0800
From: Dennis Pearson ctc.edu>
Subject: Re: car prices

Thanks for your message at 03:25 PM 2/24/00 -0600, John LaGrone. Your
message was:
>I have two cats and they never leave the house. Ever, except in the carrier
>to go to the vet. Cats and dogs do not need to run loose any more than
>children need to run loose.

Children aren't supposed to run loose...?


Dennis Pearson in Kennewick, WA

1962 Unibody, short box, big window--351C
1966 F250 Custom Cab, 352, 4-speed
1962 short stepside (Cadillac 500)
I shortened this to only FT's

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://home.att.net/~dlpearson/levi.htm

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Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 06:57:13 -0800
From: Dennis Pearson ctc.edu>
Subject: Re: Parting out 62 Ford

Thanks for your message at 05:03 PM 2/24/00 PST, shawn tayloe. Your message
was:
It is a F100 custom cab
>with the uni-body. The tailgate is still good on it and I have a couple sets
>of taillight lenses. The grill is chrome and I think in pretty good shape.
>It has a 292 V8 engine and the original transmission. >I am overseas and
I took some pictures last time I was back in the states.


I want the tailgate, absolutely!!! For a reasonable price, of course, since
shipping will be a bear...also, I am interested in the taillight lenses,
and, what-the-heck, the grill, also....Contact me, please...


Dennis Pearson in Kennewick, WA

1962 Unibody, short box, big window--351C
1966 F250 Custom Cab, 352, 4-speed
1962 short stepside (Cadillac 500)
I shortened this to only FT's

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://home.att.net/~dlpearson/levi.htm

------------------------------

From: "William S. Hart" iastate.edu>
Subject: Re: On the road again
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 08:58:40 -0600

> Got my 65 back on the road today.
> Although I did enjoy the on-ramp to the
> highway where I did get the oportunity to dust a new D #ge truck!!!! Then
> slowed down to my regular cruise and let him pass, just to keep a
> little of
> his vehicles mucho $$$ pride.
>

Congratulations, I'm sure you'll enjoy many hours of driving it ...hope you
got everything done, 'cause if you're anything like me, once its on the road
its hard to take it back down for a while :)

Just my $.02
wish

96 Mustang GT 5spd 4.6L
73ish 1/2ton 4x4 6.4L
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish


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From: "Jason & Kathy Kendrick" mddc.com>
Subject: Re: U-JOINTS OR REAREND
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 03:31:22 -0600


When I was younger and was still learning about keeping them on the road,
this is when I'd find the bad joints. Now, I have a grease gun and it's used
liberally. I spend a lot more time driving my truck now than fixing it.

Jason Kendrick


all the bearings fall out and the
>ujoint will move almost to the point of falling off! Now that's scary! I
>say, if in doubt, change them :-)
>
>--
>Michigan, Pot Hole Jumping,
>78 Bronco Loving, Gary



------------------------------

From: "gene gardner" hotmail.com>
Subject: air cleaner
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 07:10:43 PST

>A friend of mine has a '67 F100 with a 240 ci 6 cyl.It has the >original
>Oil Bath Air Cleaner on a one barrel carb ... He would like >to retrofit
>his carb with a later model Air Cleaner that has an >exhaust manifold
>snorkel and thermostat.

I did that with my 70 (same engine/carb). Look for any truck or van in the
junkyard with a 240 or 300 and just make sure the air cleaner housing will
sit right on your engine's valve cover. There is a difference in how they're
positioned but the diameter of the 1V carbs seems to be standard. The best
one I found came off a van -- don't know the year (late 60's?) but it had
the snout and all, was the biggest, and fit perfectly.

Texican Teacher -- 70 F100 w 300-I6
______________________________________________________


------------------------------

Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 09:28:57 -0600
Subject: Re: U-JOINTS OR REAREND
From: "John LaGrone" ford-trucks.com>

> Thanks for your message at 03:28 PM 2/24/00 -0600, John LaGrone. Your
> message was:
>>> I just don't want to miss diagnos the problem
>>> and get caught out in traffic with a bad rear end.
>
> ...this is too easy...There are very few things worse than a bad rear end...
>
>
>
> Dennis Pearson in Kennewick, WA
>
> 1962 Unibody, short box, big window--351C
> 1966 F250 Custom Cab, 352, 4-speed
> 1962 short stepside (Cadillac 500)
> I shortened this to only FT's
>
> http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://home.att.net/~dlpearson/levi.htm
> ==========================================================
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> the words "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the body of the
> message.
>
Except I didn't originally write that remark, I quoted it in my reply. I bit
my tongue to keep from making a similar remark. Hey, the truth is the truth
and sometimes it ain't pretty....

-- John
jlagrone ford-trucks.com <]:-) <]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)
1979 F150 Custom, Long Wide Bed, Regular Cab, 351M, C6 (Henry)
http://www.ford-trucks.com/jlagrone/henry.home.htm
Dearborn iron rules!!!!


------------------------------

Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 09:30:57 -0600
Subject: Re: U-JOINTS OR REAREND
From: "John LaGrone" ford-trucks.com>

> Thanks for your message at 03:28 PM 2/24/00 -0600, John LaGrone. Your
> message was:
>>> I just don't want to miss diagnos the problem
>>> and get caught out in traffic with a bad rear end.
>
> ...this is too easy...There are very few things worse than a bad rear end...
>
>
>
> Dennis Pearson in Kennewick, WA
>
> 1962 Unibody, short box, big window--351C
> 1966 F250 Custom Cab, 352, 4-speed
> 1962 short stepside (Cadillac 500)
> I shortened this to only FT's
>
> http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://home.att.net/~dlpearson/levi.htm
> ==========================================================
> To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ford-trucks.com with
> the words "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the body of the
> message.

Except I didn't originally write that remark, I quoted it in my reply. I bit
my tongue to keep from making a similar remark. Hey, the truth is the truth
and sometimes it ain't pretty....

>Children aren't supposed to run loose...?
>Dennis Pearson in Kennewick, WA

Only during open season.

-- John
jlagrone ford-trucks.com <]:-) <]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)
1979 F150 Custom, Long Wide Bed, Regular Cab, 351M, C6 (Henry)
http://www.ford-trucks.com/jlagrone/henry.home.htm
Dearborn iron rules!!!!


------------------------------

From: "gene gardner" hotmail.com>
Subject: trimming posts
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 07:27:14 PST

I swore I wasn't going to stick my nose in but I KNOW this is something that
bothers Ken, and maybe some of the newer guys aren't aware that there's even
a problem, so ...

When you include the original message in your reply, you should always trim
it to just a few lines (just enough to give a general idea of what you're
responding to). How, you ask?

In your Reply, cut the extra lines of the original message out by
highlighting them (hold the left click on your mouse and drag over the text
you want to cut, then release it) and then hitting the DELETE button on the
right side of the keyboard. Repeat as needed.

Not trying to nag, guess it's just the teacher in me. Even if everyone
doesn't trim, this is still the best Ford list in the solar system. Hope I
can get to Pigeon Forge for the meet.

Texican Teacher, 70 F100 w 300-I6
______________________________________________________


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From: "Christopher Worley" hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Off topic, cats and dogs....GRRRRRRr! #$#$#$##
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 07:33:44 PST

Amen, do you want to spend a week in my neighborhood........;)


Chris
67 F100 352 (restore project)
72 F100 390 (for sale)


>From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)" visteon.com>
>Reply-To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
>To: "'61-79-list ford-trucks.com'" <61-79-list ford-trucks.com>
>Subject: [61-79-list] Re: Off topic, cats and dogs....GRRRRRRr! #$#$#$##
>Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 07:08:50 -0500
>
>Not in my yard or trash bags they don't! Can you imagine city mangers
>being
>so blind that they insist that you use trash bags instead of cans or
>dumpsters in a city full of inconsiderate dog and cat owners and then fine
>you for littering when they tear it up while you sleep??? I'm so glad I
>live in the country where I can keep my trash in a large dumpster, out of
>reach of inconsiderate cat owner's cats! (note, I'm not smiling here) I
>once told my neighbor that if my dog happened to get out and get into his
>stuff he should shoot it because I would rather not have one if it gets
>into
>other peoples stuff. He, of course declined as would I if my neighbors had
>come to me in that manner and had made the slightest effort to control
>their
>pets......Instead I warned THEM that I would shoot to kill if they didn't
>control them and the healthy trees in my yard are testimony that I meant
>what I said.
>
>I'm not a mean person but I won't sit idle and watch my property be
>destroyed by pets of inconsiderate, pompous, biggots and that after many
>warnings. But don't worry, I no longer own a gun of any kind, I finally
>realized I don't have the right personality for it....but I have other
>ways......:-) Not many loose cats around where I live anymore for some
>reason.....or coons or ground hogs either :-)
>
>When God made all these animals they were in balance and were not bred and
>fed by inconsiderate humans. There was no mistake on his part, he had a
>good plan. We know where the problem came from don't we?
>
>--
>Michigan, Pot Hole Jumping,
>78 Bronco Loving, Gary
>--
>
> >Now there I have to disagree with you. Cats are hunters, they're God's
> >creatures, and they do need to roam.
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>

______________________________________________________


------------------------------

From: prozell oaielectronics.com (OAI Electronics: Paul Rozell)
Subject: Re: U-JOINTS OR REAREND
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 09:49:10 -0600

> >>> I just don't want to miss diagnos the problem
> >>> and get caught out in traffic with a bad rear end.
> >
> > ...this is too easy...There are very few things worse than a bad rear
end...
>
> Except I didn't originally write that remark, I quoted it in my reply. I
bit
> my tongue to keep from making a similar remark. Hey, the truth is the
truth
> and sometimes it ain't pretty....

Boy did I put my foot in it when I wrote that, hadn't thought about it when
I wrote the email. But now I do.

Paul Rozell
65 F100 460 C6



------------------------------

From: craig001 mc.duke.edu
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 10:42:16 -0500
Subject: Re: air cleaner




>>A friend of mine has a '67 F100 with a 240 ci 6 cyl.It has the >original
>>Oil Bath Air Cleaner on a one barrel carb ... He would like >to retrofit
>>his carb with a later model Air Cleaner that has an >exhaust manifold
>>snorkel and thermostat.
>
>
>I did that with my 70 (same engine/carb). Look for any truck or van in the
>junkyard with a 240 or 300 and just make sure the air cleaner housing will
>sit right on your engine's valve cover. There is a difference in how they're
>positioned but the diameter of the 1V carbs seems to be standard. The best
>one I found came off a van -- don't know the year (late 60's?) but it had
>the snout and all, was the biggest, and fit perfectly.
>
>Texican Teacher -- 70 F100 w 300-I6

I have the same truck/engine (gotta luv it!) and when I acquired it, there was
NO air cleaner at all. I just went to the local auto parts and got a 9 inch
round filter kit and rigged it up. Works fine.

Question - is there any functional advantage to the stock setup (either kind)?
Or is it just a matter of appearance/originality? I admit, my setup looks pretty
cheesy, but it is chrome, so that should be good for a few HP :).

Damian



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Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 09:50:45 -0600
Subject: Re: trimming posts
From: "John LaGrone" ford-trucks.com>

> (hold the left click on your mouse and drag over the text
> you want to cut, then release it) and then hitting the DELETE button on the
> right side of the keyboard. Repeat as needed.

I only have one mouse button. I guess I was cheated (not).

Gene's right. In Outlook Express you can highlight what you want to include
in your reply, hit the reply button and only the highlighted text is quoted.
Your software might do the same. Some of you have already figured out I went
to live mode instead of digest mode. It is much easier to reply in live
mode, but you get a ton of messages in your In Box.

-- John
jlagrone ford-trucks.com <]:-) <]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)
1979 F150 Custom, Long Wide Bed, Regular Cab, 351M, C6 (Henry)
http://www.ford-trucks.com/jlagrone/henry.home.htm
Dearborn iron rules!!!!

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From: "William S. Hart" iastate.edu>
Subject: Re: air cleaner
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 09:56:00 -0600

> Question - is there any functional advantage to the stock setup
> (either kind)?

Acutally yes, there are advantages to both ... the oil bath does a better
job of cleaning the air, and can take a bit more junk before it quits
working, a good example is when Mt. St. Helens exploded back in ...well a
while ago ... the bobcats they were using to clear the ash would suddenly
lose power and die ... but the old ones kept chugging along ... the oil bath
filters left the ash on top of the oil and bubbled the air through just like
always, whereas the paper filters were clogging and not letting any air
through ...

The advantage of the paper filters is that they don't suck nearly as much
power out of the system, its much easier to get air through a paper filter
than an oil bath ... also less mess when you change it ... or tip it
accidently ...

Don't tip a diesel with an oilbath cleaner on it ...

Personally this is why I like the K&N ideas so much, they use the best of
both worlds, the oil and the paper (cotton in this case), and you don't have
to worry about replacing it, so there's less waste ...


> Or is it just a matter of appearance/originality? I admit, my
> setup looks pretty
> cheesy, but it is chrome, so that should be good for a few HP :).
>

Watch the car washes the only problem with an open element filter is that
you suck the water in :(

Just my $.02
wish

96 Mustang GT 5spd 4.6L
73ish 1/2ton 4x4 6.4L
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish


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From: "William S. Hart" iastate.edu>
Subject: Re: trimming posts
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 10:05:05 -0600

> > (hold the left click on your mouse and drag over the text
> > you want to cut, then release it) and then hitting the DELETE
> button on the
> > right side of the keyboard. Repeat as needed.
>
> I only have one mouse button. I guess I was cheated (not).
>

No, you're handicapped :)

And FWIW, my mouse resides on the other side of the keyboard from most
people's, so left for me is right for you guys .... bein lefthanded has its
advantages, its fun to watch right handed people try and figure out my mouse
... :)

> It is much easier to reply in live
> mode, but you get a ton of messages in your In Box.
>

Filters John ...they're your friend ... or if you're in Outlook/Outlook
Express they're "Rules" from the "Rules wizard" ... isn't MS great ?

Just my $.02
wish

96 Mustang GT 5spd 4.6L
73ish 1/2ton 4x4 6.4L
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish


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Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 10:33:11 -0600
Subject: Re: trimming posts
From: "John LaGrone" ford-trucks.com>

> ... isn't MS great ?

I'm already on the edge with my ranting about loose...responsibilities. I'm
not even going to discuss MS.

Filters, rules, I want all of my mail in the order that it arrives. FTE is
easy to spot and it usually gets top priority.

One of my teachers uses the mouse rotated 180 degrees so that the button and
wire is towards you and she clicks it with the heel of her hand. I can
always tell where she's been.

-- John
jlagrone ford-trucks.com <]:-) <]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)
1979 F150 Custom, Long Wide Bed, Regular Cab, 351M, C6 (Henry)
http://www.ford-trucks.com/jlagrone/henry.home.htm
Dearborn iron rules!!!!


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From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)" visteon.com>
Subject: Re: trimming posts
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 11:40:23 -0500

Then there's track balls.......:-( I hate those things!.....and 3 and 4 and
5 button mouses.....what for? Please don't answer that, I already know but
for the average user I mean....

--
Michigan, Pot Hole Jumping,
78 Bronco Loving, Gary
--

>One of my teachers uses the mouse rotated 180 degrees so that
>the button and
>wire is towards you and she clicks it with the heel of her hand. I can
>always tell where she's been.

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Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 10:14:42 -0700
From: "Kiernan, Denny" wenet.net>
Subject: [61-79-list]Kids and dogs

John LaGrone wrote:
>
> Children do not need to run loose unattended in restaurants, the
> neighborhood, grocery stores, the mall.... Most decisions I have seen made
> by parents regarding children are made in the best interest of the parents,
> not the children. If you don't want to properly supervise a pet, don't get
> one. If you don't want to properly raise and supervise a child YOURSELF,
> don't have one.
>
> I've worked in the public schools for 21 years now. I haven't missed much.

I'm glad I was a kid back in the '30s and '40s, (in Memphis and Kansas
City). Everybody was freer then. The kids, as well as the dogs. cats,
rabbits, squirrels, snakes, and every other creature, roamed anywhere
they wanted. It was a great life.

And a dog was not thought of as a "pet", unless maybe he was some old
lady's Pekingnese that never got out of the house. He was thought of as
a dog and he had a life like anybody else.

FTE content. Back in those days, a kid or a dog could ride in the back
of a pick-up. I dont know about the rest of the country, but in
California they're not allowed to anymore.

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Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 10:12:17 -0800
From: "Andrew Doering" pgn.com>
Subject: Drop spindels

Anyone know where to get dropped spindels for a 73-79 ford truck?


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From: "Southerland, Rich" alldata.com>
Subject: Re: [61-79-list]Kids and dogs
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 10:15:36 -0800

FTE content. Back in those days, a kid or a dog could ride in the back
of a pick-up. I dont know about the rest of the country, but in
California they're not allowed to anymore.

'scuse me? As long as they are PROPERLY restrained, it is perfectly legal
to have Fido in the bed of the truck. The constabulatory does frown on
loose pooches because they have been known to fall out...

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From: prozell oaielectronics.com (OAI Electronics: Paul Rozell)
Subject: Re: Drop spindels
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 12:30:56 -0600

I have been told that "Fat Man" has all of the parts to lower a Ford. I
haven't even looked on the web yet for an adress. I guess I'll do that now.

Paul Rozell
65 F100 460 C6

> Anyone know where to get dropped spindels for a 73-79 ford truck?
>
> ==========================================================



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From: prozell oaielectronics.com (OAI Electronics: Paul Rozell)
Subject: Re: Drop spindels
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 12:32:55 -0600

Andrew,
I just searched and found www.fatmanfab.com I haven't had a chance to look
but as I said I was told they have what you need.

Paul Rozell
65 F100 460 C6


> Anyone know where to get dropped spindels for a 73-79 ford truck?
>
> ==========================================================



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From: prozell oaielectronics.com (OAI Electronics: Paul Rozell)
Subject: Power Steering
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 12:42:42 -0600

Hey All,
Is there any way to tighten up the power steering box or pump. I love the
power steering in my truck but it is a little to much. I would prefer a
little more resistance, and wanted to know if any one new how to remedy
this.

Paul Rozell
65 F100 460 C6


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From: "Tim and Pam Allgire" williams-net.com>
Subject: Re: Off topic, cats and dogs....GRRRRRRr! #$#$#$##
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 13:42:42 -0500

What in the heck did this have to do with a '61-'79 Ford truck???? If you
guys want to talk about other stuff why don't you get ICQ.com or send it out
by your regular E-mail address.
-----Original Message-----
From: Peters, Gary (G.R.) visteon.com>
To: '61-79-list ford-trucks.com' <61-79-list ford-trucks.com>
Date: Friday, February 25, 2000 7:12 AM
Subject: [61-79-list] Re: Off topic, cats and dogs....GRRRRRRr! #$#$#$##


>Not in my yard or trash bags they don't! Can you imagine city mangers
being
>so blind that they insist that you use trash bags instead of cans or
>dumpsters in a city full of inconsiderate dog and cat owners and then fine
>you for littering when they tear it up while you sleep??? I'm so glad I
>live in the country where I can keep my trash in a large dumpster, out of
>reach of inconsiderate cat owner's cats! (note, I'm not smiling here) I
>once told my neighbor that if my dog happened to get out and get into his
>stuff he should shoot it because I would rather not have one if it gets
into
>other peoples stuff. He, of course declined as would I if my neighbors had
>come to me in that manner and had made the slightest effort to control
their
>pets......Instead I warned THEM that I would shoot to kill if they didn't
>control them and the healthy trees in my yard are testimony that I meant
>what I said.
>
>I'm not a mean person but I won't sit idle and watch my property be
>destroyed by pets of inconsiderate, pompous, biggots and that after many
>warnings. But don't worry, I no longer own a gun of any kind, I finally
>realized I don't have the right personality for it....but I have other
>ways......:-) Not many loose cats around where I live anymore for some
>reason.....or coons or ground hogs either :-)
>
>When God made all these animals they were in balance and were not bred and
>fed by inconsiderate humans. There was no mistake on his part, he had a
>good plan. We know where the problem came from don't we?
>
>--
>Michigan, Pot Hole Jumping,
>78 Bronco Loving, Gary
>--
>
>>Now there I have to disagree with you. Cats are hunters, they're God's
>>creatures, and they do need to roam.
>==========================================================
>To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ford-trucks.com with
>the words "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the body of the
>message.
>


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Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 10:48:26 -0700
From: "Kiernan, Denny" wenet.net>
Subject: Re: Off topic, cats and dogs....GRRRRRRr! #$#$#$##

Peters, Gary (G.R.) wrote:

> But don't worry, I no longer own a gun of any kind, I finally
> realized I don't have the right personality for it....but I have other
> ways......:-) Not many loose cats around where I live anymore for some
> reason.....or coons or ground hogs either :-)
>
> When God made all these animals they were in balance and were not bred and
> fed by inconsiderate humans. There was no mistake on his part, he had a
> good plan. We know where the problem came from don't we?

I didn't know that people were breeding and feeding coons and ground
hogs, or rabbits, squirrels, snakes, birds, or any other creature, that
might come upon your cat poison.

And I think it's strange that the one person on this list who has
mentioned that he has strong religious feelings would find it so easy to
kill any stray animal that came on his property. It must be some kind of
religion I've never heard of.

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From: "Tim and Pam Allgire" williams-net.com>
Subject: Re: [61-79-list]Kids and dogs
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 13:49:55 -0500

Hello,this is a '61-'79 Ford truck site--Not "Pets are Us"
-----Original Message-----
From: Kiernan, Denny wenet.net>
To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com <61-79-list ford-trucks.com>
Date: Friday, February 25, 2000 1:15 PM
Subject: [61-79-list] [61-79-list]Kids and dogs


>John LaGrone wrote:
>>
>> Children do not need to run loose unattended in restaurants, the
>> neighborhood, grocery stores, the mall.... Most decisions I have seen
made
>> by parents regarding children are made in the best interest of the
parents,
>> not the children. If you don't want to properly supervise a pet, don't
get
>> one. If you don't want to properly raise and supervise a child YOURSELF,
>> don't have one.
>>
>> I've worked in the public schools for 21 years now. I haven't missed
much.
>
>I'm glad I was a kid back in the '30s and '40s, (in Memphis and Kansas
>City). Everybody was freer then. The kids, as well as the dogs. cats,
>rabbits, squirrels, snakes, and every other creature, roamed anywhere
>they wanted. It was a great life.
>
>And a dog was not thought of as a "pet", unless maybe he was some old
>lady's Pekingnese that never got out of the house. He was thought of as
>a dog and he had a life like anybody else.
>
>FTE content. Back in those days, a kid or a dog could ride in the back
>of a pick-up. I dont know about the rest of the country, but in
>California they're not allowed to anymore.
>==========================================================
>To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ford-trucks.com with
>the words "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the body of the
>message.
>


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From: "Southerland, Rich" alldata.com>
Subject: Steering stabilizer for E150?
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 10:48:59 -0800

Years ago, I installed a steering stabilizer on my (at the time) boss's '86
E350. He raved over it, said it made the van much more pleasureable to
drive.

Fast forward to today, I have a '77 E150. It likes to follow grooves in the
road and seems to require constant correction. Might a stabilizer be a good
idea here? (The front end and gearbox are not sloppy.)

I can't seem to find steering stabilizers listed for pre '82 E150's. ASFAIK,
the suspension didn't really change. Anyone offer any insight?

Rich


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From: "William S. Hart" iastate.edu>
Subject: Re: [61-79-list]Kids and dogs
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 12:56:56 -0600


> FTE content. Back in those days, a kid or a dog could ride in the back
> of a pick-up. I dont know about the rest of the country, but in
> California they're not allowed to anymore.

hahahaha ...here in Iowa any cop pullin someone over for kids or dogs in the
back of the truck had better be prepared to get an earful from granny in the
pass. seat ... the only reason she's not back there too is probably 'cause
she'd throw her hip out :)

It may not be legal, but as long as you're not being stupid about it (like
letting toilet paper rolls fly out the back while holding onto one end and
hitting the cop car) no one much cares ... wouldn't try it on the interstate
though either ...

More FTE content : the record for my truck I think was 14 counting the
people in the cab ... we all waved at the cop as we passed, he waved back
... VEISHEA, I'm sure everyone's seen the news on those parties :)

Just my $.02
wish

96 Mustang GT 5spd 4.6L
73ish 1/2ton 4x4 6.4L
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish


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Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 14:02:43 -0500
From: Ted Wnorowski onebellevue.com>
Subject: Re: Steering stabilizer for E150?

I just got one for my '64 from LMC. http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.longmotor.com/ is their site. I paid $60 for it. I don't have a clue as to what your van suspension is like, but their catalogs are for '48-'72 and '73-'79.
As far as the cats and dogs go, what's done is done, what's been said has been said. I know this just adds to the postings about it, BUT we promised to behave! 'NUFF SAID!!!!!....


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