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Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list 61-79-list); Sat, 15 Jul 2000 14:45:36 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2000 14:45:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Ford Truck Enthusiasts List Server To: 61-79-list digest users Reply-to: 61-79-list  ford-trucks.com Subject: 61-79-list Digest V2000 #159 Precedence: list ========================================================== Ford Truck Enthusiasts 1961-1979 Truck Mailing List Visit our web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ford-trucks.com with the words "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the subject of the message. ========================================================== ------------------------------------ 61-79-list Digest Fri, 14 Jul 2000 Volume: 2000 Issue: 159 In This Issue: Re: Freon Re: Nuts and Bolts Re: Freon Re: Courier Re: 62 Unibody 1961 brakes & motor mounts Courier Parts convert to hydraulic clutch ' 66 352 Re: Freon Re: Replacing U-joints Freon Prices Re: Replace u-joints 62 Unibody Update ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 15:30:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Dan Lee Subject: Re: Freon What a great opportunity to produce small batches of F12 and run a black market operation. You could take orders over the 'net and ship in unmarked packages via UPS. A black market is the natural outcome of over-regulation. Whether it is cigarettes, or alcohol, or guns, or Freon, someone will sieze the opportunity to make money. I am surprised that that isn't being done already! Dan Lee '53 F100 400C-4V >I think I know. MONEY!! Think about it. You cant >buy a replacement home split ac (Indoor or outdoor >unit) with out a Mechanical Contractors license. >You have to buy them from a buisnes, ie. your local >HVAC retailer\installer. Is it the asumption that the >average home owner is not capable of repacing these >can't cut two copper lines, replace the unit, and >silver solder the lines back together. :) Oh, I almost >forgot, we would have to know how to hook up the wires >as well. As per epa 60809 cert, HFC's (134a) or R22 >for that matter, do not contribute to the depletion of >the ozone, but you still have to have a license to >purchase r22 or any 12 replacement. I even read >that you will need a license to purchase 134a in the >future. Why, you ask? MONEY! Right now the >automotive industry is making a killing on just AC >work because the average shadetree's are not allowed >to re-fill their ac systems like they could 10 years >ago. You have no choice but to take your truck to the >local Fix It For Me to get it re-filled. Remember when >you could get r12 on sale for around $1-$1.50 a lb on >sale? look at the price now, I KNOW, I just purchased >a 30 lb cylinder for $699.00. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail – Free email you can access from anywhere! http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ From: Fordman9901 webtv.net Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 19:15:23 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Nuts and Bolts Try Mill Supply Inc 19801 Miles Road Cleveland Ohio 44128-4117 800-888-5072 fax 216-518-2700 Hope this helps Randy -- Attached file included as plaintext by Listar -- Received: from mailsorter-101-3.iap.bryant.webtv.net (209.240.198.120) by storefull-151.iap.bryant.webtv.net with WTV-SMTP; Fri, 14 Jul 2000 05:10:35 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: <61-79-list-bounce ford-trucks.com> Received: from ford-trucks.com (ford-trucks.com [209.50.251.152]) by mailsorter-101-3.iap.bryant.webtv.net (8.8.8-wtv-d/ms.dwm.v7+dul2) with ESMTP id FAA16217 for 2000 05:10:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ford-trucks.com (ford-trucks.com [209.50.251.152]) by ford-trucks.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA19097; Fri, 14 Jul 2000 07:11:58 -0400 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list 61-79-list); Fri, 14 Jul 2000 07:11:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from imo-r17.mx.aol.com (imo-r17.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.71]) by ford-trucks.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA19048 for <61-79-list ford-trucks.com>; Fri, 14 Jul 2000 07:11:55 -0400 From: SMOKEY5209 aol.com Received: from SMOKEY5209 aol.com by imo-r17.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v27.12.) id s.bf.50b1c6d (4260) for <61-79-list ford-trucks.com>; Fri, 14 Jul 2000 08:09:44 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 08:09:43 EDT Subject: [61-79-list] Nuts and Bolts To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.comMIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 109 X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: 61-79-list-bounce ford-trucks.comErrors-to: 61-79-list-bounce ford-trucks.comX-original-sender: SMOKEY5209 aol.comPrecedence: list Reply-to: 61-79-list ford-trucks.comX-list: 61-79-list I am looking for a source for good quality nuts and bolts for my restoration. I am looking for bolt kits if available. Engine kits, body kits etc. Thanks Ed ========================================================== To unsubscribe: http://www.ford-trucks.com/mailinglist.html#item3 Please remove this footer when replying. ------------------------------ From: canzus seanet.comDate: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 17:53:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Freon At 01:24 AM 14:07:2000 EDT, SHill48337 aol.com wrote:> Why might the ozone over the poles become low at times, will >think about it during the winter there is no incoming radiation over the >poles during the winter, it stays dark for 6 months. Absolutely no ozone >production so there has to be a ozone hole. > >I too am discussed with the regulations. >Burt Hill Kennewick WA 1972 F-250 4x4 460 An intelligent argument in a moronic world...what a concept!! Steve & the Rockette 68 F100, 390cid, FMX 63 F100, 292cid, 3speed 72 Capri 2000, hers 73 Capri 2600,tube frame going in..... 73 MGB GT, Our Toy 94 SHO, SWMBO's 98 Contour SVT, Mine, Mine, All Mine.... ------------------------------ From: canzus seanet.comDate: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 17:53:39 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Courier At 08:55 AM 14:07:2000 -0400, Huston, Virgil H. wrote: >I am looking for sources of info/parts for a 72 Courier. I can find nothing. >Anybody know? Try for the same year Mazda... Steve & the Rockette 68 F100, 390cid, FMX 63 F100, 292cid, 3speed 72 Capri 2000, hers 73 Capri 2600,tube frame going in..... 73 MGB GT, Our Toy 94 SHO, SWMBO's 98 Contour SVT, Mine, Mine, All Mine.... ------------------------------ From: canzus seanet.comDate: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 17:53:40 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: 62 Unibody At 05:59 AM 14:07:2000 -0700, Dennis Pearson wrote: >Sometimes in my search for a nice tailgate, I feel like I'm searching >for the Holy Grail...or is that the Wholy Tail(gate)...Man, it must be >early and I really need this double Americano sitting in front of me... Yes you are searching for the Holy Grail, my buddy Jason F has a '62 Uni, with the ugliest taigate you've never seen, so we're, more than likely, going to build a custom piece... Steve & the Rockette 68 F100, 390cid, FMX 63 F100, 292cid, 3speed 72 Capri 2000, hers 73 Capri 2600,tube frame going in..... 73 MGB GT, Our Toy 94 SHO, SWMBO's 98 Contour SVT, Mine, Mine, All Mine.... ------------------------------ From: "Sheldon Rier" Subject: 1961 brakes & motor mounts Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 21:13:27 -0400 Hi All I've got a 1961 f100 that has a few problems.................. the brakes are gone & was hoping to switch to a dual reservoir master cylinder preferably with a power brake booster - any suggestions as to what might be an easy switch it also has a 223 6cyl that is starting to hammer a bit & uses a lot of oil we have an OK 223 that can swap in or a really low miles 240 from a 64 f350 if we put in the 240 will it bolt up to the existing tranny?? what about motor mounts?? Thanks!!!! Sheldon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 22:30:45 -0500 From: Dwight Comfort Subject: Courier Parts Virgil, Couriers were made by Mazda for Ford. The 72 Mazda pickup parts interchange very much. Dwight Comfort 75 F250 SC LWB 460-4V >Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 08:55:04 -0400 >From: "Huston, Virgil H." >Subject: Courier >I am looking for sources of info/parts for a 72 Courier. I can find nothing. >Anybody know? >Thanks, >Virgil Huston >Johnston, South Carolina ------------------------------ From: "gene gardner" Subject: convert to hydraulic clutch Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2000 03:31:00 GMT Greetings, gang -- after 5 years I'm giving up on trying to figure out what is causing my clutch chatter (let's not go there, I've tried it all). I'm ready to convert the 3-finger clutch in my '70 to a hydraulic setup from an '84. Anyone done this before? Any forseeable glitches? What all will I have to modify? This time I'm gonna get it! Texican Teacher -- 70 F100 Shorty w/300 six ________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 23:49:52 -0400 From: Ted Wnorowski Subject: ' 66 352 I finally got a chance to give my new ' 66 a GOOD going over. Except for the bed, it appears to be all original. Everything but the distributor. It's blue with a smaller grey cap on top of it. The plug wires all say Duraspark on them so I'm assuming that's what this distributor is. The only problem I see is there isn't a little black box anywhere. I have no experience with these and when any thread was going on, I never paid attention. Everything is hooked up through all the stock parts. Voltage regulator, coil, relay and so on. What's missing here? It runs great. Except for the Cherry Bombs hooked up to it. And the previous, previous owner has got a switch on the dash to turn the charging circuit on & off. Any help is ALWAYS greatly appreciated. Ted Wnorowski Flat Rock, OH mailto:theodore ford-trucks.com' 64 F-250 352 transplant 4 speed ' 63 F-100 parts truck ' 66 F-250 352 4 speed flatbed ------------------------------ From: "Arnie and his F250 G" Subject: Re: Freon Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2000 00:04:07 CDT Yea right,,, it was the gevernement that saw they werent making stealing enought of OUR money. Sorry, don't get me going. The big bus, wants to manke money,, right. But GOVERNMENT is worse. Saying looking out for the little guy, enviroment, kids, baby's or what ever is hot this week make me sooooo angry. Arny_f250 From: "G & J Boling" Reply-To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.comTo: <61-79-list ford-trucks.com>Subject: [61-79-list] Freon Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 03:53:41 -0700 > Gordon > > I think I know. MONEY!! > Rich > > ========================================= Your exactly right Rich it hasnt got a thing to do with the ozone or anything else its just MONEY is all it is big business saw a way to make a big killing with the freon and got the government to help them do it gordon ========================================================== To unsubscribe: http://www.ford-trucks.com/mailinglist.html#item3 Please remove this footer when replying. ________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2000 05:36:45 -0400 From: David Wadson Subject: Re: Replacing U-joints >3. Support the drive shaft off of the work surface about twice the width of >the yoke. Consider tying a rag around the part that goes into the tranny to >prevent dings. Set it so that it doesn't roll while you are hammering (later >step). Sometimes I can do it alone, sometimes SWMBO helps. A big nice vice >would be nice, but I have never had one. >4. Choose a socket that just fits inside the barrel of the yoke where the >u-joint resides. >5. Drive the u-joint down until the cup on top clears or the web bottoms on >the yoke. Use a pair of channel lock pliers to remove the cup sticking out >the bottom. If the cup you were driving will come out, remove it. If not, >turn the drive shaft 180 degrees and drive it to the outside using something >besides the cup you just took off. I found that just laying the driveshaft on the lawn works quite well. Put the end up on a piece of 2x4 and straddle it using your knees to keep it from rolling back and forth. That way you don't have to go to all that trouble of clearing off your work bench or finding a big enough vise. Plus, the grass probably gives better cushioning to the actual shaft than doing it on the driveway or garage floor... This thread is really reminding me that my 2WD has been clunking a fair bit and has picked up a slight vibration at highway speed....gee, I wonder what that could be. :-) Now that I have finally got my 4x4 safetied and plated, I have no exuse for not spending a few days doing maintenance on the other truck... David Wadson - wadsond air.on.ca"PS1" - 79 F100 ...ground into a million pieces. "PS2" - 78 F100 ...currently alive and kicking. "PS3" - 79 F150 4x4 ...now what have I gotten myself into... Thunder Bay, Ontario, Canada ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2000 08:53:13 -0500 From: Dan Herrmann Subject: Freon Prices A few years back December 31st was the last date that R-12 gas could be produced. At the wholesale level a 30LB container sold for about $99. Starting Jan 1st the madness kicked in. Dupont, the only manufacturer of the gas in the U.S. had stocked piled the gas in packaged containers and in huge bulk tanks, and they were about to rake everybody's butt over the coals! Of course the outrages profits didn't stop with just Dupont, it filtered through every place that sold it and that could afford to stock pile it early in the game. The Wholesale company that I work for is no exception to this either. We saw the prices for a 30LB'er go from $100 to $225 by the end of Feb that year. By March 1st me & the boss was on the phone everyday calling all the wholesale companies and distributors to get the best price's and stay on top of things. Many distributors would not sell it. They had stock that they paid Dupont less than $200 for and was waiting for the prices to get into the $400-500 range! This goes way beyond price gouging!! My company also bought as much as we could early on, although we never refused to sell it, but we also didn't cut any deals for large purchases either. By May 1st a 30LB'er was up to $500 and many of the distributors and retailers had less than $250 invested into them. And the prices remain over $500 today. We got out of the R-12 business this year. Just got too hard to find it. And considering the remaining stock was at least 7 years old we were finding too many 30LB'ers that only weighed about 25LBS. A year before the madness started we got the heads up about what was going to take place. A case of 12/12oz. cans was only selling for about $20. So I bought a few case's so I would always have enough for my old Fords. I'm glad I did, a case of these now sell for about $280. Take care! Dan Herrmann ------------------------------ From: "Scott Jensen" Subject: Re: Replace u-joints Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2000 07:12:28 -0700 Don't forget to make sure the new u-joints are seated well.They should rotate easily when you're done or you'll soon be able to replace them in your sleep. ------------------------------ From: Natp244 cs.comDate: Sat, 15 Jul 2000 15:43:25 EDT Subject: 62 Unibody Update Thanks to all who helped me out with advice on the 62 Unibody I asked about. You were all helpful. I looked at it today and saw many of the things you mentioned- especially rust in the bedside. The good news is that none of it is life-treatening. Most of it I think could be replaced by homemade patches fairly easily. The truck is a 62 Custom Cab- 223 , 3 spd, all original, given to current owner by the PO, all parts present, and original paint (albeit a little faded), floord boards and bed floor both good- no major dents: just a few dings (2 that I counted). Hope you guys (and gals) will wish me luck in convincing my wife that this truck really is worth the $500 asking price! She just can't seem to understand why I need a fourth truck. Go figure :) Anyway, just wanted to thank you folks for the help. I'f I gt itI'll be sure to share the good news. Nate ------------------------------ End of 61-79-list Digest V2000 #159 *********************************** <><><><><><> Serious Help Finding That Part! <><><><><><> Ford Truck Enthusiasts now has "Ford Products Interchange" manuals in its online store. Two editions: 1950-1965 and 1963-1974. Cross references thousands of Ford parts. http://www.motorhaven.com/ ---------------------------------------------------------- Ford Truck Enthusiasts 1961-1979 Truck Mailing List Send posts to 61-79-list ford-trucks.comIf you ever want to remove yourself from this mailing list, send an email to: listar ford-trucks.comwith the words "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the subject of the message. 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