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61-79-list Digest Thu, 13 Jul 2000 Volume: 2000 Issue: 158

In This Issue:
Electric Fuel Pumps
air brakes
Re: Freon
Re: Replacing U-joints
Re: Freon
Re: Old vs New Trucks
Re: ScrewedByTheMAN!
400
Re: 400
Re: Freon
Re: Freon
Re: Freon
Re: Freon
Re: Freon
Re: modified DOVE-C heads
rear gas tank
Re: Electric fuel pump
Re: Freon
Re: 62 Unibody
Rare old 4x4 truck
Freon
Motor mounts
Nuts and Bolts
Lowering Kits
Re: Nuts and Bolts
Re: 62 Unibody
Courier
Re: Nuts and Bolts
Re: 62 Unibody
School bus
Free FE!?
Re: Free FE!?
Re: Oil and Tranny cooling.
: Nuts and Bolts

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From: JXS bridgetest.com>
Subject: Electric Fuel Pumps
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 16:01:54 -0700

David, let me tackle this a little bit. I just put a Carter unit in mine and it has made a world of difference on the hot weather and in idling in general. .

1) If I have dual tanks should I put the electric pump right after the
switch?

I have three tanks on mine, and I first put a clear plastic filter right after the switch, and then go into the pump. ALWAYS filter before the in-line pump! The unit mounts on the outside of my frame, directly under the driver.....

2) Do you have to get a regulator to control the pressure? Where does
it go?

The Carter unit I have is a generic model and is set I think to 7psi. I don't have any regulator, I don't think you need one.
3) Any recomendations on what to get?

I ordered mine from Jegs, but I'm sure your local parts store can get these. I'm going to get a spare, just in case.

4) Do they come in kits that have the pump, regulator, and oil
pressure cutoff switch?
They might, but you can order everything separately from Jegs.

5) How much will all of this cost?
Less than $100.


6) Any one know where I can get the clear plastic fuel filters?

Again, call around your local parts houses. I always put one up near the carb also, mostly just so can see the fuel moving....

Hope this helps!

CJ (Colorado Jeff)
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From: "Michael Ray Jones" lcc.net>
Subject: air brakes
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 18:18:06 -0500

Actually, on modern air brake systems, air is used to release the spring or
emergency brakes, and apply the service brakes.


>
>> Yes, the air brake systems on the tractor and trailers on the road today
need
>> air pressure to release the brakes to move.
>
>These are Westinghouse brakes, invented by George Westinghouse to be used
on
>trains. Before this, air pressure was used to apply the brakes. It took a
>horrific train crash to convince the industry that George was right and air
>pressure should be used to release the brakes.
>
>And now you know...the rest of the story.



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From: canzus seanet.com
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 17:33:41 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: Freon

At 05:31 PM 13:07:2000 -0500, John LaGrone wrote:

>R12 does not deplete the ozone layer,

How true, if someone can explain to me how a molecule that is heavier
than air and it's molecules can get to the ozone layer, I'd be more than
happy to remove all that R12...

>By all rights, we
>should still be able to buy R12 here in the States like everyone else can
>and it should cost us about 25 a pound.

Instead of $50 a lb as my father paid to have his Sable recharged...

Steve & the Rockette
68 F100, 390cid, FMX
63 F100, 292cid, 3speed
72 Capri 2000, hers
73 Capri 2600,tube frame going in.....
73 MGB GT, Our Toy
94 SHO, SWMBO's
98 Contour SVT, Mine, Mine, All Mine....


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Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 20:49:20 -0400
From: Joe p3.net>
Subject: Re: Replacing U-joints

Don
i always put the driveshaft in a vice and use a socket a little smaller then
the u joint
and pound it out with a BFH. it always works..I also recently bought a shop
press
and that really makes it wasy....
Joe
68 4x4

"Don Haring, Jr." wrote:

> One of the U-joints on my Club Wagon has really started to howl. I've never
> replaced U-joints before, and even though I have a shop manual, I wanted to
> get opinions on how difficult the job will be. The manual shows a C-clamp
> tool for pressing the bearings in and out. Is there an acceptable
> substitute, or would it just be easier to pull the driveshaft and take it
> into a shop to have them install the U-joints? I'm mechanically competant,
> just never done it before.
>
> BTW, the van failed inspection today because of the joints, and bad
> kingpins, which means I'll have to take the front axle out again and have
> it done right this time. :( As you might remember, my van was towed the
> last time the axle was out, so I'll clear space down in my garage and work
> on it hidden it from the "Man". haha :)
>
> Thanks,
> don
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From: "G & J Boling" alltel.net>
Subject: Re: Freon
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 20:56:19 -0700



R12 does not deplete the ozone layer,
>
> How true, if someone can explain to me how a molecule that is heavier
> than air and it's molecules can get to the ozone layer, I'd be more than
> happy to remove all that R12...
> Steve & the Rockette
========================================
you know the funny thing is that NASA is and has been the largest single
entity to release R12 into the atmosphere for many years now they use it
for something in the rockets when they lift off in florida
i read this not long ago some wheres but cant recall where tho
Another thing is the over a year ago Pennzoil and some other oil companies
had a R12 replacement that was Not Flammable and is ozone friendly BUT you
still need a A/C liscense to buy it tho
FIGURE THAT OUT
WHY
gordon

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Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 18:02:31 -0700 (PDT)
From: "D. DiMartino" yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Old vs New Trucks

wasn't thinking of a $60k+ retro....

D.
--- John LaGrone ford-trucks.com> wrote:
> on 7/8/2000 11:48 AM, D. DiMartino at grunon yahoo.com wrote:
>
> > do you think it would sell?
> > something like an old power wagon?? totally utilitarian?
> i've
> > had too much coffee this morning...
>
> Sounds kind of like a military Hummer to me.
>
> -- John
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Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 18:44:39 -0700 (PDT)
From: "J. Allison" yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: ScrewedByTheMAN!

> From: "Don Haring, Jr." fedora.net>
> Subject: Replacing U-joints

-snip-
> BTW, the van failed inspection today because of the
joints, and bad kingpins, which means I'll have to
take the front axle out again and have it done right
this time. :( As you might remember, my van was towed
the last time the axle was out, so I'll clear space
down in my garage and work on it hidden it from the
"Man". haha :) Thanks, don

Don-
Whatever happened to this deal anyway? Did you get
your money back? Damages paid for? Satisfaction? I
hope so... Let us know. J. Allison

Ps If it's any consolation, I'm dueling it out right
now with the county I live in called Henry County over
a totally vague ordinance called "Obnoxious
Vegetation"
Go figure. I was bitched out to the "Man" by my
bleepety-bleep-bleep neighbor who thinks he's got the
right to tell me what to do on my own property. Too
bad I caught him trespassing (3 TIMES!) and finally
decided to swear out a warrant for his arrest. Piss on
him!!! Think you live in the communist state? Here's
one for ya. The penalty for above said ordinance
violation is up to $1000 smacks AND 60 days in the
slammer. A person who gets busted for DRUGS doesn't
even come close to this unless it's a big time bust!
Pretty sorry huh? Freedom in America? Rights in
America? Think AGAIN! Now off soapbox...

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From: "Jason" hotmail.com>
Subject: 400
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 01:56:11 GMT

i am rebuilding my 400 from a 1978 f-250. How can i tell if it is standard
or oversized or what

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From: "G & J Boling" alltel.net>
Subject: Re: 400
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 21:59:48 -0700

it will say so on th pistons and rod and main bearings usually
gordon

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> Date: Thursday, July 13, 2000 6:56 PM
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> or oversized or what
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From: JUMPINFORD aol.com
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 22:59:58 EDT
Subject: Re: Freon

In a message dated 7/13/00 5:34:27 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
canzus seanet.com writes:

<< How true, if someone can explain to me how a molecule that is heavier
than air and it's molecules can get to the ozone layer, I'd be more than
happy to remove all that R12... >>

Actually your half right, R12 is heavier than air. But what happens is
sunlight breaks down the R12, and the chlorine is what gets in to the
atmosphere and does all the damage. And one thing I haven't seen mentioned,
is never expose R12 to flame. It turns into phosgene, otherwise known as
Mustard gas.

Darrell & Tweety

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From: "rich" exis.net>
Subject: Re: Freon
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 23:47:12 -0400


----- Original Message -----
From: G & J Boling alltel.net>
Another thing is the over a year ago Pennzoil and some other oil companies
had a R12 replacement that was Not Flammable and is ozone friendly BUT
youstill need a A/C liscense to buy it tho
FIGURE THAT OUT. WHY?
gordon

Gorden

I think I know. MONEY!! Think about it. You cant buy a replacement home
split ac (Indoor or outdoor unit) with out a Mechanical Contractors license.
You have to buy them from a buisnes, ie. your local HVAC
retailer\installer. Is it the asumption that the average home owner is not
capable of repacing these items? Don't tell me that no one on this list
can't cut two copper lines, replace the unit, and silver solder the lines
back together. :) Oh, I almost forgot, we would have to know how to hook up
the wires as well. As per epa 60809 cert, HFC's (134a) or R22 for that
matter, do not contribute to the depletion of the ozone, but you still have
to have a license to purchase r22 or any 12 replacement. I even read that
you will need a license to purchase 134a in the future. Why, you ask?
MONEY! Right now the automotive industry is making a killing on just AC
work because the average shadetree's are not allowed to re-fill their ac
systems like they could 10 years ago. You have no choice but to take your
truck to the local Fix It For Me to get it re-filled. Remember when you
could get r12 on sale for around $1-$1.50 a lb on sale? look at the price
now, I KNOW, I just purchased a 30 lb cylinder for $699.00. NOW, make it a
requirement to have a license to purchase ALL freon. Where ya gonna go to
get your AC re-filled? For most people, back to the local Fix It For Me,
with the same labor charge and a slightly reduced freon cost (134a). Can
you spell "got the market cornered". Up until last week, PepBoy's here in
Virginia Beach would not sell anybody R12 with out the purchase of a
compressor. What if every automotive store had that polocy? It kinda sucks
to have the AVERAGE car ruck ac repair to be around $500-$600.00. Heck, I
bought my 76 F250 4x4 in 1988 for $500.00. When I started out as a mechanic,
ac was considered a subsystem. Look at it now, some repairs cost more than
the vehicle is worth. Another thing, approximately 90% of r12 's price is
taxes. Ok, the shops reclaim ecycle e-sell it (r12) to us, the consumer,
one way or another via a wholesaler or whatever. I know there are some
labor\handling charges involed with that. But is the price of recycling r12
equal to making R12 from scratch? I don't think so. OK, Well, why is
recycled r12 sold for the same price as virgin r12 with it's 90% tax added?
Sorry for the ramble, but this has been bothering me for years.

Rich


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Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 23:30:52 -0400 (EDT)
From: Scott Hall garnet.acns.fsu.edu>
Subject: Re: Freon

On Thu, 13 Jul 2000, rich wrote:

> I think I know. MONEY!! Think about it. You cant buy a replacement home
> split ac (Indoor or outdoor unit) with out a Mechanical Contractors license.



> recycled r12 sold for the same price as virgin r12 with it's 90% tax added?
> Sorry for the ramble, but this has been bothering me for years.

I don't think it's as much about the shops/retailers making the money as
it is about dupont. like somebody else said, their patent ran out...time
to mandate something else be sold to the public.

this is pretty much the same reason most illegal drugs are illegal.

scott


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From: "rich" exis.net>
Subject: Re: Freon
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 00:16:35 -0400


----- Original Message -----
From: Scott Hall garnet.acns.fsu.edu>


recycled r12 sold for the same price as virgin r12 with it's 90% tax added?
Sorry for the ramble, but this has been bothering me for years.

I don't think it's as much about the shops/retailers making the money as
it is about dupont. like somebody else said, their patent ran out...time to
mandate something else be sold to the public.
this is pretty much the same reason most illegal drugs are illegal.

scott

Do you think Dupont get's a royalty for every lb of r12 recycled? How much?
How do they know how much is recycled? that money is going somewhere. Not
saying your wrong here. Just think it's a racket, or double taxation (with
out representation)

Rich


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Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 23:52:44 -0400 (EDT)
From: Scott Hall garnet.acns.fsu.edu>
Subject: Re: Freon

On Fri, 14 Jul 2000, rich wrote:

> I don't think it's as much about the shops/retailers making the money as
> it is about dupont. like somebody else said, their patent ran out...time to
> mandate something else be sold to the public.
> this is pretty much the same reason most illegal drugs are illegal.
>
> Do you think Dupont get's a royalty for every lb of r12 recycled? How much?
> How do they know how much is recycled? that money is going somewhere. Not
> saying your wrong here. Just think it's a racket, or double taxation (with
> out representation)

no, no, I doubt dupont gets royalities for recycled r12. but their
original action made r12 scarce to begin with, the shops are just being
opportunistic. their all asses to be sure, but I think dupont is the root
cause here.

scott


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From: JJJJJGRANTaol.com
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 00:08:26 EDT
Subject: Re: modified DOVE-C heads

i would be afraid of these heads for a street machine.

jeff

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Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 23:47:05 -0500
From: Dwight Comfort tic.bisman.com>
Subject: rear gas tank

Hi Robert
I have a '75 F250 2wd lwb Supercab with the dual tanks. I am here in
Bismarck and if you want to take measurements or anything, just contact
me off list.

Dwight Comfort
also of Bismarck

Robert wrote:
>Subject: rear gas tank
>Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 22:26:06 -0500
>From: Tammy & Robert Dolan btigate.com>
>Subject: rear gas tank
>
>I am trying to locate a rear tank for my 73 f250 2wd swb crewcab. The
>truck never had a rear tank, but a while back i remember someone
talking
>about installing a tank from some other make? Anyone have any good
>suggestions? Robert Bismarck ND




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From: "Garrett Nelson" writeme.com>
Subject: Re: Electric fuel pump
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 23:53:47 -0500


www.summitracing.com


---Garrett www.1966ford.com


----- Original Message -----
From: David.R.Johndeluxe.com
To: 61-79-listford-trucks.com
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2000 9:27 AM
Subject: [61-79-list] Electric fuel pump


Hey all,

I know we have had threads on some of this in the past but I would
appreciate you alls wisdom to my specific questions. This is in regards to
my 78 F250 4x4 460 with an Edelbrock performer intake and Edelbrock 4bb
750cfm carb.
1) If I have dual tanks should I put the electric pump right after the
switch?
2) Do you have to get a regulator to control the pressure? Where does
it go?
3) Any recomendations on what to get?
4) Do they come in kits that have the pump, regulator, and oil
pressure cutoff switch?
5) How much will all of this cost?
6) Any one know where I can get the clear plastic fuel filters?

Thanks in advance for all of the info.

David John
78 F250 4x4 Supercab 460 C6 Camper Special

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From: SHill48337aol.com
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 01:24:18 EDT
Subject: Re: Freon

In a message dated 7/13/00 8:00:47 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
JUMPINFORDaol.com writes:

<< < How true, if someone can explain to me how a molecule that is heavier
than air and it's molecules can get to the ozone layer, I'd be more than
happy to remove all that R12... >>

Actually your half right, R12 is heavier than air. But what happens is
sunlight breaks down the R12, and the chlorine is what gets in to the
atmosphere and does all the damage. And one thing I haven't seen mentioned,
is never expose R12 to flame. It turns into phosgene, otherwise known as
Mustard gas.

Darrell & Tweety >>

The whole ozone thing is political. The way freon gets up there is through
air currents and general mixing, but there is a steady state value of freon
up high (not much though). It is true that the in coming ultra violet
radiation can break freon apart but if it gets broken up near the ground the
chlorine or fluorine is extremely reactive and will combine with some before
it ever gets up very high. The extremist would have you believe that
chlorine or fluorine reacts with a ozone and wipes it out. This is true but
what they do not tell you is the process of creating ozone from oxygen
attenuates the ultra violet energy. And the process of the ozone attenuating
the energy causes the ozone to break down into oxygen again, and then more
energy absorbed to get back to ozone. The scare factor is built around the
precept that the chlorine or fluorine will not go away when the radiation
breaks up the new compound of oxygen and chlorine, it releases the
chlorine/fluorine to wipe out another ozone. The whole point that is missed
is all of these things reduce the energy reaching the ground. Anything that
is up high will interact with the radiation and reduce the energy reaching
the ground. Why might the ozone over the poles become low at times, will
think about it during the winter there is no incoming radiation over the
poles during the winter, it stays dark for 6 months. Absolutely no ozone
production so there has to be a ozone hole.

I too am discussed with the regulations.
Burt Hill Kennewick WA 1972 F-250 4x4 460

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From: "davidl" tbcnet.com>
Subject: Re: 62 Unibody
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 00:44:24 -0500

The battery box and the innerfender below it are problem spots and the
floor to the front of the box the water stands in some of them
Were is it if you dont want one more?. I think I can fit one in the yard
still
Dave
61 donor unibody 8foot
62 unibody in the stages of trying to figure out what to do with it
62 mine this week unibody 292 RED
62 parts donor
77 e350 motor home 460 what else
78 f250 4x4 429
83 f250 4x4 just a 302 now dana 50 front 35 tires 4" sup 4"body
85 f250 4x4 6.9 4sp
nothing new but lots of fun

-----Original Message-----
From: Natp244cs.com cs.com>
To: 61-79-listford-trucks.com <61-79-listford-trucks.com>
Date: Thursday, July 13, 2000 2:39 PM
Subject: [61-79-list] 62 Unibody


>Hello to all-
>A gentleman I know is selling a 1962 Unibody, 223 I-6. I am interested in
>the truck and need some unibody-specific advice before I go to look at it.
>Are there any areas on these trucks that are particualrly prone to rust?
Any
>special things I should look for (i.e.- scarce parts missing, body
alignent,
>etc.?)
>I have 2 project trucks going right now and really don't NEED another, but
>this is a friendship deal of sorts (real cheap) and I'm sure its worth the
>asking price. My reservation about it is that with two trucks going now I
do
>not want to bite off more than I can chew and end up with a truck I can do
>nothing with. Any advice is helpful and appreciated. Thanks.
>.


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From: oldfords63juno.com
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 01:39:41 -0500
Subject: Rare old 4x4 truck

Thought I'd pass this one on.
1965 Ford F-250, 3/4 ton, 4x4, 390/ 4 speed, 4.56 gears, lockers, needs
exhaust, $1250.00 Gaston, Ind. 765-358-4349 ( Saw it in auto-rv.com
ad # C18110376 ) Doesn't look too bad......later, Phil
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From: "G & J Boling" alltel.net>
Subject: Freon
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 03:53:41 -0700


> Gordon
>
> I think I know. MONEY!!
> Rich
>
> =========================================
Your exactly right Rich
it hasnt got a thing to do with the ozone or anything else its just MONEY
is all it is
big business saw a way to make a big killing with the freon and got the
government to help them do it
gordon

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From: "Azie L. Magnusson" HiWAAY.net>
Subject: Motor mounts
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 06:57:43 -0500


Larry writes: >>No one mention anything about a Left and Right side mount. I just bought a
pair for my 74 350 2wd at advance auto and his computer showed a L & R two
different part number and two different prices. (8.00 & 7.00). I haven't
try to put them on
Should I do some more research or was I informed correctly?<<

Yep.. A Left and A right.


Azie Magnusson
Ardmore, Al.


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From: SMOKEY5209aol.com
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 08:09:43 EDT
Subject: Nuts and Bolts

I am looking for a source for good quality nuts and bolts for my restoration.
I am looking for bolt kits if available. Engine kits, body kits etc.
Thanks
Ed

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From: SMOKEY5209aol.com
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 08:11:26 EDT
Subject: Lowering Kits

I am restoring a 1970 Ford 2wd pick-up and was looking for a kit to lower the
rear. It just sits to high. I was told just take out some of the springs, but
there must be a better way.
Thanks
Ed

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Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 05:30:08 -0700
From: "John MacNamara" zhone.com>
Subject: Re: Nuts and Bolts


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Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 08:52:22 -0400
From: Ted Wnorowski ford-trucks.com>
Subject: Re: 62 Unibody

At 03:36 PM 7/13/00 -0400, you wrote:
>Hello to all-
> Any
>special things I should look for (i.e.- scarce parts missing,

I seen from The List that tailgates for these are hard to find,
and expensive when you do find one.


Ted Wnorowski Flat Rock, OH
mailto:theodoreford-trucks.com
' 64 F-250 352 transplant 4 speed
' 63 F-100 parts truck
' 66 F-250 352 4 speed flatbed










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Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 08:55:04 -0400
From: "Huston, Virgil H." switch.com>
Subject: Courier

I am looking for sources of info/parts for a 72 Courier. I can find nothing.
Anybody know?

Thanks,
Virgil Huston
Johnston, South Carolina

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Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 05:57:39 -0700
From: "John MacNamara" zhone.com>
Subject: Re: Nuts and Bolts

Try this: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://amkproducts.com/Ford_Master_Kits.asp

SMOKEY5209aol.com wrote:

> I am looking for a source for good quality nuts and bolts for my restoration.
> I am looking for bolt kits if available. Engine kits, body kits etc.
> Thanks
> Ed
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Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 05:59:45 -0700
From: Dennis Pearson ctc.edu>
Subject: Re: 62 Unibody



Ted Wnorowski wrote:
Any
> >special things I should look for (i.e.- scarce parts missing,
>
> I seen from The List that tailgates for these are hard to find,
> and expensive when you do find one.

Very ex and, in my opinion, the ugliest tailgate Ford ever
made. I finally just took mine off. I got tired of looking at it,
being Butt-ugly and beat-up to boot...

Sometimes in my search for a nice tailgate, I feel like I'm searching
for the Holy Grail...or is that the Wholy Tail(gate)...Man, it must be
early and I really need this double Americano sitting in front of me...

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From: "NP 540" hotmail.com>
Subject: School bus
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 06:09:46 PDT

Today, I was just "Safari-hunting" with my neighbor; he was looking
for 3-tons Dodge trucks parts.... And guess what I stumble upon?
An early '60's school bus; a MERCURY school bus!!! :)
I have seen a few Mercury pickups, even one 3-ton early '60's
Mercury truck that belong to a friend of mine, but NEVER a
Mercury school bus before! What a sight! Too bad it was all rusted
out, and not much pieces left on it too. Had a FT engine in it.

What a sight that was.
(it's in New-Brunswick, Canada)
:)

Gerry
1978 F-150 SuperCab 4x4 351M-NP435-NP205
1979 F-150 regular cab 4x4 351M-NP435-NP205
M-block disciple
VIVE LE FORD!





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Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 08:08:14 -0500
Subject: Oil and Tranny cooling.
From: "Rusty Nail" mmgworldwide.com>

Would like to get the list's opinion on individual oil and tranny coolers. I
saw Summit had a dual cooler for about $90. I am wondering how much this
will cool down my engine/tranny, with this summer heat my cab gets
smoldering hot once the engine heats up.

opinions and advice are much welcome.

rusty in kcmo
77, 2wd f-150 400

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Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 08:28:35 -0600
From: "Richard Currit" state.wy.us>
Subject: Free FE!?

I found this on the MoPar Mailing List. Maybe an FTE member in Southern
Cal. can rescue this engine and give it the respect it deserves.
High Plains Richard
'71 F-100
?---------------------------------------------------------------------
>Message Number: 3
>Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 18:15:40 EDT
>From: IanMarkVaol.com
>Subject: What to do with old engine???
>
>Hey all-
>This is getting to be an emergency. I have 2 weeks >to move my two
engines and nowhere for them to >go.

>Case 1: 1966 Ford 390.
>I could care less about this motor. I am not paying >for someone to
haul it away since they charge by >the pound. I wish I could dump it
into the ocean.
>
>Maybe I can bury it?
>
>Case 2: 1968 Mopar 440/727.
>I want some money for this. Or if I can keep the >heads, somebody
come and get the short block >assembly and the tranny for free.
Otherwise, it's >$100.
>
>Still a steal.
>
>I am in Santa Barbara, CA. (805)-683-4339. Tell >your friends.
>
>--ian


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From: "Southerland, Rich" alldata.com>
Subject: Re: Free FE!?
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 07:45:04 -0700

>Case 1: 1966 Ford 390.
>I could care less about this motor. I am not paying
>for someone to haul it away since they charge by
>the pound. I wish I could dump it into the ocean.
>
>Maybe I can bury it?

Forgive them, for they know not what they say or what they do...

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From: "G & J Boling" alltel.net>
Subject: Re: Oil and Tranny cooling.
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 14:00:39 -0700



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> From: Rusty Nail mmgworldwide.com>
> To: ford post <61-79-listford-trucks.com>
> Subject: [61-79-list] Oil and Tranny cooling.
> Date: Friday, July 14, 2000 6:08 AM
>
> Would like to get the list's opinion on individual oil and tranny
coolers. I
> saw Summit had a dual cooler for about $90. I am wondering how much this
> will cool down my engine/tranny, with this summer heat my cab gets
> smoldering hot once the engine heats up.
rusty in kcmo
> 77, 2wd f-150 400
> ========================================
rusty
you probably will not notice any difference in the interior heat but will
on the oil pressure and the tranny will last longer most likely
HEAT is the next biggest enemy of oil next to dirt
gordon

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From: "G & J Boling" alltel.net>
Subject: : Nuts and Bolts
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 14:02:49 -0700




> > I am looking for a source for good quality nuts and bolts for my
restoration.
> > I am looking for bolt kits if available. Engine kits, body kits etc.
> > Thanks
> > Ed
> > ========================================
try MILL SUPPLY the have about any kind of bolt you could want
gordon

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Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 13:52:11 -0500
Subject: Re: Replacing U-joints
From: John LaGrone ford-trucks.com>

on 7/13/2000 4:58 PM, Don Haring, Jr. at haringfedora.net wrote:

> The manual shows a C-clamp
> tool for pressing the bearings in and out. Is there an acceptable
> substitute, or would it just be easier to pull the driveshaft and take it
> into a shop to have them install the U-joints? I'm mechanically competant,
> just never done it before.

Don,

I use a ball peen hammer, a piece of railroad track (for an anvil), a
correct diameter Craftsman socket, and whatever pliers are needed to undo
the keepers. If you do one, do them all.

Procedure:
1. Remove drive shaft from truck keeping in mind that the rear seal on an
automatic tranny will usually leak when you remove the driveshaft. I don't
know about manual trannies, I don't own any.
2. Remove the cups from the rear u-joint. Repair the rear joint last so that
you don't screw up the bearing surface while you are working on the front.
Remove the keepers from the front u-joint. They are either lock rings on the
inside of the cup that slide off or they are twisty looking keys in grooves
on the outside of the yoke. Sometimes originals are set with plastic and
have no other keepers.
3. Support the drive shaft off of the work surface about twice the width of
the yoke. Consider tying a rag around the part that goes into the tranny to
prevent dings. Set it so that it doesn't roll while you are hammering (later
step). Sometimes I can do it alone, sometimes SWMBO helps. A big nice vice
would be nice, but I have never had one.
4. Choose a socket that just fits inside the barrel of the yoke where the
u-joint resides.
5. Drive the u-joint down until the cup on top clears or the web bottoms on
the yoke. Use a pair of channel lock pliers to remove the cup sticking out
the bottom. If the cup you were driving will come out, remove it. If not,
turn the drive shaft 180 degrees and drive it to the outside using something
besides the cup you just took off.
6. Repeat for the other part of the u-joint.
7. Reverse procedure to install, except you can go ahead and install the
cups, don't drive (hammer) on the new web.
8. Reinstall drive shaft.

If at all possible, get u-joints with Zerk fittings and grease them
religiously.

Hope this helps, either to do it, or hire it done. I think the 4x4 crowd
invented a tool to change them more easily.

-- John
jlagroneford-trucks.com <]:-) <]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)
1979 F150 Custom LWB Regular Cab 351M C6 (Henry)
http://www.ford-trucks.com/jlagrone/henry.home.htm
Dearborn iron rules!!!!


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