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Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list 61-79-list); Wed, 12 Jul 2000 20:50:59 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 20:50:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Ford Truck Enthusiasts List Server To: 61-79-list digest users Reply-to: 61-79-list  ford-trucks.com Subject: 61-79-list Digest V2000 #156 Precedence: list ========================================================== Ford Truck Enthusiasts 1961-1979 Truck Mailing List Visit our web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ford-trucks.com with the words "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the subject of the message. ========================================================== ------------------------------------ 61-79-list Digest Wed, 12 Jul 2000 Volume: 2000 Issue: 156 In This Issue: Re: rubber brake hoses Re: 390 engine mounts Re: 79 F-350 Single Wheel Re: plastic truck models 390 engine mounts Opinions? Motor mounts '79 srw F350 Re: 390 engine mounts Re: Freon Re: Freon Re: Motor mounts Re: 390 engine mounts 390 engine mounts - feeling foolish Re: Freon Frame rivets and spring mounting bolts Re: Frame rivets and spring mounting bolts Re: Paint Oxidation... Re: [61-79-list]ENGINE PAINT Re: [61-79-list]ENGINE PAINT Re: [61-79-list]ENGINE PAINT Re: [61-79-list]ENGINE PAINT Re: Frame rivets and spring mounting bolts 73-79 disc brakes 73-79 disc brakes pulling trim Re: 73-79 disc brakes Re: 73-79 disc brakes Re: Frame rivets and spring mounting bolts Re: pulling trim Re: pulling trim ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "wish" Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 12:03:09 GMT Subject: Re: rubber brake hoses >One note, I had to reuse the copper washer seal, so don't lose it. I was >expecting new ones with the new hoses, but did not get it. That is odd, I thought most of the time the washers came with the hoses, though thinking about it more, they might come with the caliper/wheelcylinder instead ... > And expect the steel nut at the flared line end to round >on you. I had to use vice grips and it wasn't pretty. > Even working on "new" cars I've had to use the vice grips, I've actually given up even trying anything else. If you set the vice-grips tight enough then you will actually leave the nut in tact enough that you can use a wrench on it when you're putting it back on (depending what side you're replacing of course) ... this was even the case on my 96 Mustang that I only drive in the summer, as well as the 69 that hasn't been apart for 15+ years, so it affects all ages. Just my $.02 wish 96 Mustang GT 5spd 4.6L 73ish 1/2ton 4x4 6.4L http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish Ford Truck Enthusiasts http://www.ford-trucks.com ------------------------------ From: "wish" Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 12:04:19 GMT Subject: Re: 390 engine mounts >Did you look closely at the "unthreaded nipple"? I recently purchased FE >mounts for my 69 F250 and each of the threads had a plug on them to protect >them during shipping. This is the way I've seen them coming lately ... confused me at first too, but turned out okay when I used a pair of pliers to pull the "cap" off of the stud ... Just my $.02 wish 96 Mustang GT 5spd 4.6L 73ish 1/2ton 4x4 6.4L http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish Ford Truck Enthusiasts http://www.ford-trucks.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 06:21:29 -0700 From: Don Subject: Re: 79 F-350 Single Wheel I saw my first '79 F350 4x4 last week and I have been looking for that model for a LONG time. The guy bought it from some farmer where he said it had only 40k miles on it and he paid 5k for it It was the explorer model. The front hubs were HUGE! forgot to check if it had the dana 70 or dana 60 rear but it definatley had the dana 60 front! This was a single wheel rear axle btw. Don '79 Bronco XLT At 00:58 7/12/00 -0400, you wrote: >I saw something today while at the mall (Salvage Yard, that is) that caught >my eye and at the risk of cluttering up this list just to satisfy my >curiosity- I still must ask. It was a Cab/chassis- 1979 Model, F-350, but it >had a single wheel rear axle instead of duals. I know the General made some >trucks like this, and thought Ford might have in earlier years, but I have >either never seen one or never paid attention (which is quite possible). So- >is this an unusual truck? Thanks! > >Nate >========================================================== >To unsubscribe: >http://www.ford-trucks.com/mailinglist.html#item3 >Please remove this footer when replying. ------------------------------ From: "NP 540" Subject: Re: plastic truck models Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 06:49:30 PDT From: WEDIVE247 aol.com Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 20:34:14 EDT Subject: Re: plastic truck models In a message dated 7/9/2000 11:20:11 AM EST, np540 hotmail.com writes: << Any more questions about those kits? Eh, Carver, funny you mentionned you want to make your own crew-cab out of 2 kits: I did the same for my 1978 Super-Cab 4x4; had to do it 3 times! first time, cab was too short; second time, cab was too long. (had to happens, of course!) 3rd time, cab was perfect! but...... Upon doing the final sending prior to painting, the cab fell to the floor and cracked! For the following hour, I was looking at it, with a hammer nearby.... Luckily, sanity took over! I put that kit away in a box, to be fixed later. That was 2 years ago. And last fall, I bought that same (real) truck I was modeling! Isn't life wonderfull? Now, for a few places where you might found those kits: USA http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.carhobby.com/page25.html#OBSOLETE http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.modelempireusa.com/ http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.smhracing.com/ http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.modelcarkits.com/ CANADA http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.modelexpress.net/ http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www3.sympatico.ca/perrysresin/ http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.img.net/modelcarmania/ http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.kangourou.ca/ http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.hobbyworld-inc.com/ http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.kitesandotherdelights.com/index.html http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.ecmc.com/ >> Hey Gerry, I'm having a small problem with that article that you read . You stated that kit # t-295 was a 63 F100 issued in 68 with a camper shell ? I went to smhracing . com and they say its for (kit # t-295 ) a 51 ch*#y belair by AMT . Whats up with that ? I haven't found kit # 8133 issued in 63 with a go kart ? Any ideas ? Steve 64 460 ci swb Well, I just rechecked that article, here is some of it again: Truck year Type kit# when done notes AMT 1960 F-100 1360 1960 with 2-wheels trailer 1961 F-100 K131 1961 with 2-wheels trailer 1962 F-100 K132 1962 with 2-wheels trailer 1963 F-100 8133 1963 with go-cart 1963 F-100 T-295 1968 with camper shell That's exactly what the article says in print. This was copied from "ScaleAuto Enthusiast" magazine, #104, August 1996. Their web-site is: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.kalmbach.com/scaleauto/scaleauto.html Their back-issue department: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://db.kalmbach.com/catalog/catalogjump.lasso?Menu=BackIssues Yep, #104 SEEMS to be available! I HIGHLY recommend that you buy the current ScaleAuto Enthusiast magazine, as it is FULL of adds for places that have old kits. Hey, in that last one (#132, June 2000), they have the result of their annual survey; Top 10 most requested REissues: 3rd place: 1961-63 FORD PICKUP (on page 62). I'd say there a very good chance we will see it reissued by AMT/ERTL next year. Another very good magazine of kits, full of adds: FineScale Modeler http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.kalmbach.com/fsm/finescale.html I also checked http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.modelexpress.net, in their magazine SAE section, they have the issue of ScaleAuto Enthusiast #104, at $2.81US. HOWEVER...... Upon checking my "Small World of Wheels Model Kit Value Guide #2" issued in 1987..... AMT 1963 F-100 8133-200 unknown with go-cart 1963 F-100 08-133 unknown with go-cart 1963 F-100 T295(again) unknown There is also a B/W picture of a 63(?) F-100 with camper shell: "Ford F-100 custom camper", #2563. Same pics as SAE article. It sure looks like THAT # is the right one! Note here, the go-cart is a "streamliner", and the camper shell is more like a bed-cap, top of it in line with top of cab, exept for an "extension" that goes over the top of the cab. I checked for the "other" kit #T-295, it is indeed a '51 BelAir! And I thought I knew EVERYTHING about kits....... Boy I sure love this list!!!! :) Gerry 1978 F-150 SuperCab, 4x4, 351M-NP435-NP205 1979 F-150 regular cab, 4x4, 351M-NP435-NP205 VIVE LE FORD! Still looking for other FTE peoples from New-Brunswick...... ________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ From: "Jeffrey L Schulz" Subject: 390 engine mounts Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 08:11:17 -0600 Robert, I'm wondering if there is just a plastic protector or something over the threaded stud that might slip off? If not, send them back and get new ones from the local parts store, they are still very available. I'm guessing they'll be cheaper than those at Mac's, but I'm not sure. All of the mounts I've seen (everywhere between about 64 and 76) have been threaded... Hope this helps! CJ ------------------------------ From: "Azie L. Magnusson" Subject: Opinions? Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 09:48:22 -0500 Bill Poudrier writes: >>Do you folks have any opinions?<< Bill!!! I really don't believe you asked this question!! Members of FTE having opinions - -- Probably as many opinions as there are members. Now to your question.. Bronze vs cast guides. I once had a set of FE heads done with brass and for some reason I bent pushrods more often after that. The shop owner also tried to talk me out of them, but after I insisted, he said, "Its your money". That is the only set I've ever had bronzed, so I guess I'm saying I'd stick with the steel(cast). Azie Magnusson Ardmore, Al. ------------------------------ From: "Azie L. Magnusson" Subject: Motor mounts Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 09:56:00 -0500 Robert Trivitt writes: >>Hello everyone. I have been enjoying the list for quite some time and finally need some input. I am in the middle of replacing the 360 in my 68 F-250 2wd with a 390. I ordered new engine mounts from Mac's. The mounts on the existing engine are threaded while the new ones simply have an unthreaded nipple. There does not appear to be any kind of groove or anything for a locking ring. How are these secured to the frame? << I'm in digest mode also. The motor mounts you got are the wrong ones... Take them back where you got them and also take along your old ones and get a pair just like the ones on the 360.. Mounts for them should be the same.. Azie Magnusson Ardmore, Al. ------------------------------ From: "Azie L. Magnusson" Subject: '79 srw F350 Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 10:03:09 -0500 Nate writes: >>I saw something today while at the mall (Salvage Yard, that is) that caught my eye and at the risk of cluttering up this list just to satisfy my curiosity- I still must ask. It was a Cab/chassis- 1979 Model, F-350, but it had a single wheel rear axle instead of duals. I know the General made some trucks like this, and thought Ford might have in earlier years, but I have either never seen one or never paid attention (which is quite possible). So- is this an unusual truck? Thanks!<< My Son has a '79 4X4 F350 that was srw and we converted to the drw and installed a flatbed... The rear axles are just a bit different, but that can be overcome with a bit of engineering.. Azie Magnusson Ardmore, Al. ------------------------------ From: "G & J Boling" Subject: Re: 390 engine mounts Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 12:11:16 -0700 I'm guessing > they'll be cheaper than those at Mac's, but I'm not sure. > > All of the mounts I've seen (everywhere between about 64 and 76) have been > threaded... CJ ========================================= i paid 9.00 each for my F/E mounts a year ago at advance auto parts gordon ------------------------------ From: DWeaver232 aol.comDate: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 12:25:21 EDT Subject: Re: Freon Any hydrocarbon replacement freon is the kind that can go BOOM. Terry Weaver 78 350 srw ------------------------------ From: "G & J Boling" Subject: Re: Freon Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 12:47:04 -0700 Any hydrocarbon replacement freon is the kind that can go BOOM. > > Terry Weaver > 78 350 srw > ========================================= from what i have understood is even the old R12 can burn that was 1 way they used to check for leaks with a propane torch gordon ------------------------------ From: "wish" Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 15:55:27 GMT Subject: Re: Motor mounts >them and also take along your old ones and get a pair just like the ones on the 360.. >Mounts for them should be the same.. > Actually the mounts between the 360 and 390 that I had were different. They functioned the same, and mounted the same, but the 360 mounts were narrower than the 390 ones ... not sure why, there were several variables (3/4ton vs 1/2ton, 2wd vs 4wd), but they were definitely different. I used the 360 mounts on the 390 'cause they were in better shape though and they worked fine. Just my $.02 wish 96 Mustang GT 5spd 4.6L 73ish 1/2ton 4x4 6.4L http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish Ford Truck Enthusiasts http://www.ford-trucks.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 10:23:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Robert Trivitt Subject: Re: 390 engine mounts OK, I feel a little foolish now. After taking a closer look, I realized that those studs are actually coated with rubber. It looks like when they molded the rubber for the mounts, the studs got coated too. For protection, or just sloppy I don't know. Anyway, problem solved, I wish they were all this easy! From: "Michael White" Subject: Re: 390 engine mounts Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 21:51:16 -0600 Did you look closely at the "unthreaded nipple"? I recently purchased FE mounts for my 69 F250 and each of the threads had a plug on them to protect them during shipping. If there isn't one threaded stud on each mount, then you may have purchased the wrong mounts. If you have the wrong mounts, you might consider Checker Auto Parts,... # 2290/270-2290 # 2289/270-2289 You can expect to pay about $9 for each. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail – Free email you can access from anywhere! http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ From: "Southerland, Rich" Subject: 390 engine mounts - feeling foolish Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 10:42:28 -0700 Foolish? That's nothing! Until very recently, I worked retail parts. One night I sold a battery to a regular customer, who needed to install it in the parking lot. I gave him the necessary tools and out he went. About 5 minutes later, he comes storming in, swearing about the %*#$ (! dead batteryI sold him. Went out to look at the car and immediately found the problem. He had neglected to remove the plastic protective cap from the negative terminal which was acting as a rather effective insulator... Another one: About 10 years ago, I was working my first day solo management of a Firestone store (we were newly open on Sunday, nobody wanted the gig, so I got elected). The first customer, a 40-something nicely dressed woman pulls up in her C mro. Comes in and proceeds to chew off what rear end Igot about these lousy POS cheap- $$ tires we sold her. I tell her we'll dowhatever it takes to make her satisfied and walked out to the car. Again the problem is obvious. I point to the raised white letters which read: "GOODYEAR EAGLE GT". "Maam, these are Goodyears. We're Firestone (pointing to the sign on the building). Goodyear is around the corner..." I can think of two much more foolish people. Don't feel bad. -----Original Message----- From: Robert Trivitt [mailto:umberto97 yahoo.com]Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 10:24 AM To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.comSubject: [61-79-list] Re: 390 engine mounts OK, I feel a little foolish now. After taking a closer look, I realized that those studs are actually coated with rubber. It looks like when they molded the rubber for the mounts, the studs got coated too. For protection, or just sloppy I don't know. Anyway, problem solved, I wish they were all this easy! ------------------------------ From: "Hogan, Tom" Subject: Re: Freon Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 10:58:36 -0700 > Any hydrocarbon replacement freon is the kind that can go BOOM. > > > > Terry Weaver > > 78 350 srw > > ========================================= > from what i have understood is even the old R12 can burn that > was 1 way > they used to check for leaks with a propane torch > gordon > Yes I've seen freon leak detectors that worked that way. The flame changes colors. Gotta be real careful burning freon though. The byproduct of freon combustion is a nerve gas. I think phosgene. Tom H. ------------------------------ From: "Pat" Subject: Frame rivets and spring mounting bolts Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 11:31:55 -0700 Hi Kids, Yesterday was the PowerWash day for the 79 Dream Truck. A shower and a half and still I'm dirty. Now that I can see the frame, standoff's and spring mounts I've discovered some minor cracking that won't be a problem to weld up but there are a few rivets that are shot in the cab mount standoff's, rear spring mounts and a couple of the bolt holes in the front spring mounts are oval. I've figured to take out the shot rivets and replace them with a good quality bolt with lock washer and Locktite. For the oval holes I've figured to weld a 1/4" or 3/8" plate over the old holes and re-drill. I'm headed for a sandblast in the next week or so and then frame paint. I'm figuring to use epoxy primer and a good quality oil base paint over the primer. Any suggestions would be much appreciated. Pat Patsplace 77 F250 4X4 78 F150 W/Overloads 72 Ranger parts truck 79 F250 4X4 (Dream Truck Under Construction) 78 F250 2WD Lariat Donor for the DT. ------------------------------ From: "G & J Boling" Subject: Re: Frame rivets and spring mounting bolts Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 14:49:47 -0700 for paint that will last and rustproof try POR15 GORDON ---------- > From: Pat > To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com> Subject: [61-79-list] Frame rivets and spring mounting bolts > Date: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 11:31 AM > > Hi Kids, > Yesterday was the PowerWash day for the 79 Dream Truck. A shower and a > half and still I'm dirty. > Now that I can see the frame, standoff's and spring mounts I've > discovered some minor cracking that won't be a problem to weld up but there > are a few rivets that are shot in the cab mount standoff's, rear spring > mounts and a couple of the bolt holes in the front spring mounts are oval. > I've figured to take out the shot rivets and replace them with a good > quality bolt with lock washer and Locktite. For the oval holes I've figured > to weld a 1/4" or 3/8" plate over the old holes and re-drill. > I'm headed for a sandblast in the next week or so and then frame paint. > I'm figuring to use epoxy primer and a good quality oil base paint over the > primer. Any suggestions would be much appreciated. > Pat > Patsplace > 77 F250 4X4 > 78 F150 W/Overloads > 72 Ranger parts truck > 79 F250 4X4 (Dream Truck Under Construction) > 78 F250 2WD Lariat Donor for the DT. > > > > > > > > > > > ========================================================== > To unsubscribe: > http://www.ford-trucks.com/mailinglist.html#item3 > Please remove this footer when replying. > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 11:49:35 -0700 (PDT) From: "D. DiMartino" Subject: Re: Paint Oxidation... craftsman makes an oscilating buffer that takes the danger out of polishing and going though the paint. but it's not fool proof, practice first! > "G & J Boling" > >machine rubbing compound works best but if youve never used > it take it to a > >pro __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail – Free email you can access from anywhere! http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ From: "Lyndell Smith" Subject: Re: [61-79-list]ENGINE PAINT Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 15:07:47 -0400 I saw a very nicely painted yellow engine and am about to clean and paint my 360 but don't want to use the can stuff from the local auto parts store, but don't know the best brand to use for high temp paint can anyone recommend one? one that might last for a couple of years. ------------------------------ From: Matt Senn Subject: Re: [61-79-list]ENGINE PAINT Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 12:06:59 -0700 that was probably mine at http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.chaoticdelusions.com/truck . . . i used a high temp "rattle can" type that i got from napa . . . they offered 2 varieties, a 500 degree and a 1200 degree, but the yellow was only available in 500 . . . it was not enough to withstand the temp of the exhaust sides of the heads and they are now turning a nice burn yellow paint color . . . -----Original Message----- From: Lyndell Smith [mailto:scb fairburn.com]Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 1:08 PM To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.comSubject: [61-79-list] Re: [61-79-list]ENGINE PAINT I saw a very nicely painted yellow engine and am about to clean and paint my 360 but don't want to use the can stuff from the local auto parts store, but don't know the best brand to use for high temp paint can anyone recommend one? one that might last for a couple of years. ========================================================== To unsubscribe: http://www.ford-trucks.com/mailinglist.html#item3 Please remove this footer when replying. ------------------------------ From: "davidl" Subject: Re: [61-79-list]ENGINE PAINT Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 14:25:14 -0500 POR 15 makes engine paint that will stand up to the high temps check the web Dave 61 donor unibody 8foot 62 unibody in the stages of trying to figure out what to do with it 62 unibody 292 RED 62 parts donor unibody 77 e350 motor home 460 what else 78 f250 4x4 429 83 f250 4x4 just a 302 now dana 50 front 35 tires 4" sup 4"body 85 f250 4x4 6.9 4sp nothing new but lots of fun -----Original Message----- From: Matt Senn To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com <61-79-listford-trucks.com>Date: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 2:15 PM Subject: [61-79-list] Re: [61-79-list]ENGINE PAINT >that was probably mine at http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.chaoticdelusions.com/truck . . . i >used a high temp "rattle can" type that i got from napa . . . they offered 2 >varieties, a 500 degree and a 1200 degree, but the yellow was only available >in 500 . . . it was not enough to withstand the temp of the exhaust sides of >the heads and they are now turning a nice burn yellow paint color . . . > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Lyndell Smith [mailto:scb fairburn.com]>Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 1:08 PM >To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com>Subject: [61-79-list] Re: [61-79-list]ENGINE PAINT > >I saw a very nicely painted yellow engine and am about to clean and paint my >360 but don't want to use the can stuff from the local auto parts store, >but don't know the best brand to use for high temp paint can anyone >recommend one? > one that might last for a couple of years. > >========================================================== >To unsubscribe: >http://www.ford-trucks.com/mailinglist.html#item3 >Please remove this footer when replying. > > >========================================================== >To unsubscribe: >http://www.ford-trucks.com/mailinglist.html#item3 >Please remove this footer when replying. ------------------------------ From: "G & J Boling" Subject: Re: [61-79-list]ENGINE PAINT Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 15:46:46 -0700 > POR 15 makes engine paint that will stand up to the high temps check the > web > > Dave ======================================== THEY also make a cast iron color that is supposed to look like freshly cast iron gray always too i have tried their rustproofing and it works well enough as well as their gas tank sealer to the tank sealer i used on my car with Excellent results gordon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 13:00:29 -0700 From: Jason Eaton Subject: Re: Frame rivets and spring mounting bolts While your in there pulling off cold rivets you should consider pulling off the front shackle receivers on the rear of the leaf spring. These are usually big pieces of cast iron that are riveted on to the frame. Pull the rivets out and replace them with bolts. This way when you get around to replacing the bushings you can pull the receiver out easily. Good luck. At 11:31 AM 7/12/00, you wrote: >Hi Kids, > Yesterday was the PowerWash day for the 79 Dream Truck. A shower and a >half and still I'm dirty. > Now that I can see the frame, standoff's and spring mounts I've >discovered some minor cracking that won't be a problem to weld up but there >are a few rivets that are shot in the cab mount standoff's, rear spring >mounts and a couple of the bolt holes in the front spring mounts are oval. > I've figured to take out the shot rivets and replace them with a good >quality bolt with lock washer and Locktite. For the oval holes I've figured >to weld a 1/4" or 3/8" plate over the old holes and re-drill. > I'm headed for a sandblast in the next week or so and then frame paint. >I'm figuring to use epoxy primer and a good quality oil base paint over the >primer. Any suggestions would be much appreciated. >Pat >Patsplace >77 F250 4X4 >78 F150 W/Overloads >72 Ranger parts truck >79 F250 4X4 (Dream Truck Under Construction) >78 F250 2WD Lariat Donor for the DT. > > > > > > > > > > >========================================================== >To unsubscribe: >http://www.ford-trucks.com/mailinglist.html#item3 >Please remove this footer when replying. ----------------------------------------------------- Jason Eaton Jungawunga Inc. http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.jungawunga.com 103B Whispering Pines Road Scotts Valley, CA 95066 p 831.438.0475 m 408.858.5585 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 14:10:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Kaczmar Subject: 73-79 disc brakes I read the article on swapping in the disc brakes from a 73-79 2WD truck into the 68-72's and was wondering about donor vehicles. Can I pillage the brake parts off of a similar year van? I have a line on a 77 and a 79 E150 vans that a guy is parting out and am wondering if these spindles etc. are the same. Intuition tells me they most likely are, but I'd like to be sure. Thanks Michael Kaczmar 53 70 and 72 F-100's Detroit, MI _______________________________________________________ Say Bye to Slow Internet! http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.home.com/xinbox/signup.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 14:10:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Kaczmar Subject: 73-79 disc brakes I read the article on swapping in the disc brakes from a 73-79 2WD truck into the 68-72's and was wondering about donor vehicles. Can I pillage the brake parts off of a similar year (73-79??) van? I have a line on a 77 and a 79 E150 vans that a guy is parting out and am wondering if these spindles etc. are the same. Intuition tells me they most likely are, but I'd like to be sure. Thanks Michael Kaczmar 53 70 and 72 F-100's Detroit, MI _______________________________________________________ Say Bye to Slow Internet! http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.home.com/xinbox/signup.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 14:12:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Kaczmar Subject: pulling trim I got really lucky today, and I found some good side moldings for my 70 F-100. Price is right too. Question is, how do I get it off without trashing it. Somebody told me there is a tool to get behind the molding and pop it free, anybody know how to do it/where to get the tool? Can I make the tool easily? Thanks people Michael Kaczmar 53 70 and 72 F-100's _______________________________________________________ Say Bye to Slow Internet! http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.home.com/xinbox/signup.html ------------------------------ From: "Southerland, Rich" Subject: Re: 73-79 disc brakes Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 14:21:06 -0700 According to my Mitchell Interchange Manual, the spindles are different. Don't know specifcally what the difference is, but they are not listed as interchangeable. The rotors and the calipers are interchangeable however. The booster is not. The master cylinder is, but you're going to want a rebuilt or new one anyway. -----Original Message----- From: Michael Kaczmar [mailto:biertest-r excite.com]Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 2:10 PM To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.comSubject: [61-79-list] 73-79 disc brakes I read the article on swapping in the disc brakes from a 73-79 2WD truck into the 68-72's and was wondering about donor vehicles. Can I pillage the brake parts off of a similar year (73-79??) van? I have a line on a 77 and a 79 E150 vans that a guy is parting out and am wondering if these spindles etc. are the same. Intuition tells me they most likely are, but I'd like to be sure. Thanks Michael Kaczmar 53 70 and 72 F-100's Detroit, MI _______________________________________________________ Say Bye to Slow Internet! http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.home.com/xinbox/signup.html ========================================================== To unsubscribe: http://www.ford-trucks.com/mailinglist.html#item3 Please remove this footer when replying. ------------------------------ From: canzus seanet.comDate: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 16:45:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: 73-79 disc brakes At 02:21 PM 12:07:2000 -0700, Southerland, Rich wrote: >According to my Mitchell Interchange Manual, the spindles are different. If I remember halfway correctly, Vans are front steer, ie; the steering box is ahead of the axle... Steve & the Rockette 68 F100, 390cid, FMX 63 F100, 292cid, 3speed 72 Capri 2000, hers 73 Capri 2600,tube frame going in..... 73 MGB GT, Our Toy 94 SHO, SWMBO's 98 Contour SVT, Mine, Mine, All Mine.... ------------------------------ From: canzus seanet.comDate: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 16:45:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Frame rivets and spring mounting bolts At 11:31 AM 12:07:2000 -0700, Pat wrote: > but there >are a few rivets that are shot in the cab mount standoff's, rear spring >mounts and a couple of the bolt holes in the front spring mounts are oval. > I've figured to take out the shot rivets and replace them with a good >quality bolt with lock washer and Locktite. For the oval holes I've figured >to weld a 1/4" or 3/8" plate over the old holes and re-drill. When I first bought my '63, it had a funny clunk in the rear, which turned out to be the same problem you are having, What I did, was drill the rivets out, get everything apart and derusted, then drill the holes out to the next larger size (7/16) got some 1" grade 8 Fine thread bolts and flanged nuts, then torqued then to about a million bls/ft. No problems so far, and I've had 3500lbs of crushed rock in it... Steve & the Rockette 68 F100, 390cid, FMX 63 F100, 292cid, 3speed 72 Capri 2000, hers 73 Capri 2600,tube frame going in..... 73 MGB GT, Our Toy 94 SHO, SWMBO's 98 Contour SVT, Mine, Mine, All Mine.... ------------------------------ From: "G & J Boling" Subject: Re: pulling trim Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 21:19:57 -0700 Somebody told me there is a tool to get behind the molding and pop it > free, anybody know how to do it/where to get the tool? Can I make the tool > easily? Michael Kaczmar _______________________________________________________ NAPA and MACS as well as SNAP-ON should carry the right tools for that type of removal of chrome gordon ------------------------------ From: "Garrett Nelson" Subject: Re: pulling trim Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 20:45:55 -0500 There is a tool but I removed my trim without one. The trim is held on with plastic clips which are bolted onto the body panels. The trim on the box and the hood is easy, because you can reach the nuts on the backside. Remove them and the trim comes right off. For the other trim, I very carefully pried an edge of the trim away from the body with a screwdriver, then used a bright light to see where the clips were. If you can see them, you can rotate them with a narrow screwdriver or a similar tool. Just be careful and take your time. Of course buying the tool would make it easier, but a dollar saved is a dollar earned right? Let me know if you need any more help. ---Garrett www.1966ford.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael Kaczmar To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.comSent: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 4:12 PM Subject: [61-79-list] pulling trim I got really lucky today, and I found some good side moldings for my 70 F-100. Price is right too. Question is, how do I get it off without trashing it. Somebody told me there is a tool to get behind the molding and pop it free, anybody know how to do it/where to get the tool? Can I make the tool easily? Thanks people Michael Kaczmar 53 70 and 72 F-100's ------------------------------ End of 61-79-list Digest V2000 #156 *********************************** <><><><><><> Serious Help Finding That Part! <><><><><><> Ford Truck Enthusiasts now has "Ford Products Interchange" manuals in its online store. Two editions: 1950-1965 and 1963-1974. 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