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61-79-list Digest Tue, 11 Jul 2000 Volume: 2000 Issue: 155

In This Issue:
Re: Duraspark adjustable timing completed
Re 443 FE
Re: Paint Oxidation...
Re: FREON
Econoline in Virginia Beach
converting inverted Y steering
Body work in Colorado
Re: Paint Oxidation...
Re: 429
Re: Power Sterring Conversion
Re: Biggest Radiator
Re: 79 Ford
modified DOVE-C heads
Air vs Hyd brakes
Re: Fw: Power steering up grade.
Re: Re 443 FE
Re: Air vs Hyd brakes
Bronze or Iron you tell me
Re: replacement freon
Re: Oh man, you FEnatics have got to see these...
Re: Fw: Power steering up grade.
Parts is Parts (was: Power steering up grade)
Re: plastic truck models
Re: Parts is Parts (was: Power steering up grade)
390 engine mounts
Re: 390 engine mounts
Re: Oh man, you FEnatics have got to see these...
Re: 390 engine mounts
Re: FTE folks in OH unite!
Re: 429
rubber brake hoses
Freon
79 F-350 Single Wheel
Re: 79 F-350 Single Wheel
Re: modified DOVE-C heads

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Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 02:11:30 -0700
From: John Lord home.com>
Subject: Re: Duraspark adjustable timing completed

I only caught this portion of the email. And i am interested in learning
more.
Could you please describe what Module more specifically.

I am running a very high compassion engine and from what i see here this
might provide me with a solution to some of my problems.

James Oxley wrote:

> Hey all
>
> Just a quick note on the adjustable timing. Finished it up last night,
> works great. I now get 15 degrees adjustable base timing. I had heard it
> was 10, but it worked out to 15 for me.
>
> Module your looking for is OEM DY297, Neihoff FF407 or KEM E314 (the
> one I used, very expensive 101$ with decent discount). I tried a
> cheaper wells module (P.N. F110, 24$), but it had three wires on the
> third plug and when I first installed it, the truck ran like garbage,
> but timing had only changed 2 degrees (10-12). At 12 degrees, it should
> have run pretty close to how it was running with stock ign box.
>
> 3rd lug should have 2 wires (black and yellow) coming off it. You hook
> this up to a 10K pot, using the connections that give you 10K when the
> pot is turned counterclockwise and very high resist when turned
> clockwise. Pot is not linear, so I get about 5 degrees at 7, O'clock, 6
> degrees at 12, O'clock, 15 degrees at 9, O'clock and 20 degrees at 5,
> O'clock.
>
> One nice feature is I can crank the timing up to 20 on cold start
> which makes it idle 1000 times better upon initial start. I have not
> driven it yet, but will soon. Web page on this and the 2 bbl projection
> install to follow in Aug :-).
>
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From: "Hogan, Tom" kla-tencor.com>
Subject: Re 443 FE
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 04:22:26 -0700

Who posted this about the stroker FE?

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://members.tripod.com/lyc_42/443/443.htm

I would like to get ahold of this guy and talk to him about a long rod FE
idea that I have.

Thanks
Tom H.

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From: TBeeee aol.com
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 07:47:20 EDT
Subject: Re: Paint Oxidation...

Tim:
Try a product by 3M called "Hand Glaze" Follow the directions. I just
did my 66 and it put a nice shine on the paint.

Stock Man
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>
> I've got a pretty nice '69 F-250 with the original paint job, but it's
> oxidized to hell... What's the best way to strip the oxidation

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From: Marvin Meyer strat.net>
Subject: Re: FREON
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 08:41:11 -0400

Rich, your lucky you can obtain a certificate, up here in Canada, to the
best of my knowledge, we can't purchase any freon unless we take the
course. more money and time. I need 1lb for my old 73 Tbird and I'm not
going to the local station to pay through the nose for a top up. We are
going to Ky for vacation and I'll get a can somehow down there. After 20yrs
of sitting I recovered and then replaced all hoses and compressor. We were
just one lb short.
Marvin

[] PS, the epa test is not for Canadians. I beleive you need a zip and our
postal codes won't agree with their computers


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Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 09:40:49 -0400
From: "Don Haring, Jr." fedora.net>
Subject: Econoline in Virginia Beach

I just got a message from a man in Virginia Beach, VA. His neighbor has a
1966 Econoline "display" van (windows down the right side) that they "do
not want". It sounds like someone could get this van very cheap, though I
don't know much about it or the condition. Email me for the contact info if
you are interested in picking up an Econoline in VA.

-don

--
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66 Falcon Deluxe Club Wagon (daily driver)
61 Falcon Futura | Vespa and Lambretta scooters



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From: "Jeffrey L Schulz" bridgetest.com>
Subject: converting inverted Y steering
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 07:46:13 -0600

Schu,

Yes, your axle is the same as a 78. You'll need a new pitman arm, drag link,
and tie rod. It all bolts right up, and the tie-rod tapers are the same
size, so no problemo there....The pitman arm on the 76 has the "ball" on it,
and the newer ones have the "ball" in the end of the tie rod. If you have a
lift kit, now would be a good time to use a drop-down pitman arm.....

CJ


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From: "Jeffrey L Schulz" bridgetest.com>
Subject: Body work in Colorado
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 07:46:15 -0600

Hey Steve,

I have a guy up here near Boulder that does real nice work. He's a one-man
shop and works by the hour or the job. He painted a 77 for me (inside and
out) and everybody was pretty impressed with his work.

Let me know if you're interested (off list) and I can get you his
number.....

CJ (Colorado Jeff)


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Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 10:08:10 -0400
From: "Don Haring, Jr." fedora.net>
Subject: Re: Paint Oxidation...

"Tim Neasham" 3-cities.com> said:
>I've got a pretty nice '69 F-250 with the original paint job, but it's
>oxidized to hell... What's the best way to strip the oxidation without
>hurting the paint? I'm thinking about hiring it done, but not sure if the
>cost is worth it. Any suggestions...

"G & J Boling" alltel.net> said:
>machine rubbing compound works best but if youve never used it take it to a
>pro


Before spending money on a pro, that may or may not have the skills to do
it right anyway, try polishing out a small spot. Do NOT use any power
tools, just elbow grease. Both of my vehicles were faded and oxidized when
I bought them. The Futura shined up like new after two days of hand
polishing. I polished the front face of the Club Wagon before deciding that
I didn't really care how it looked. Haha :)

Start with the mildest grit substance and work backwards if that doesn't
work. Rubbing compound will strip away the oxidation, but you can go
through the paint if you are not careful. I used a small amount of rubbing
compound on a soft rag, then I followed with polish and then wax. It worked
very well but really tires you out more than you would expect. I strongly
suggest you try it yourself before you take it to a shop. I once asked
around for advice on getting window tint in my van (lots of windows). A
long time pro said that I should do it myself because I actually cared
about my truck, and no one else would give it the attention and respect
that I would.

-don

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66 Falcon Deluxe Club Wagon (daily driver)
61 Falcon Futura | Vespa and Lambretta scooters



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From: "wish" ford-trucks.net>
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 14:09:48 GMT
Subject: Re: 429



>How much is a good running 429 worth?
>

Nothing, just leave it by the curb on trash day and it will disappear ... ;)


Just kiddin ya man, I've already got a "spare" FE :)

Just my $.02
wish

96 Mustang GT 5spd 4.6L
73ish 1/2ton 4x4 6.4L
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From: "wish" ford-trucks.net>
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 14:11:38 GMT
Subject: Re: Power Sterring Conversion

>> It should route around the water pump as well as the crank and p/s pump
>...

>Really?

Yup, true story, I bought a 390 out of a 3/4ton and it had A/C on it too, so
the water pump pulley had 3 ribs on it ...

>It can also be run straight from the crank to the ps pump. Right or
>wrong, I've run mine like this for several years with no ill effects.


Because of the additional wrap it would also be less likely to squeal. The
only possible ill effects would be if the belts wore out faster, but because
of the size of the p/s pump pulley I don't think that would be a problem. The
alternator might be a different issue though ...

Just my $.02
wish

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From: "Parsons, Ray" thedailycamera.com>
Subject: Re: Biggest Radiator
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 11:05:51 -0400



> >What was the modine number?
> Stock Man<
>
> The Modine # is: 2302. They also sell a 2304 for $400; we looked at them
> and could not see a real differnce, they are both 4 core radiators.
>

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From: "wish" ford-trucks.net>
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 14:17:59 GMT
Subject: Re: 79 Ford

>also what type of exhaust should i do? i know im going 3 inch duals, i havent

>decided either just plain turbos, glass packs (kinda loud and obnoxiuos), or

>flowmasters?

3" with stock manifolds is probably not going to do much for you ... not sure
what you are looking for (more power ? sound ? both?) and this usually causes
a huge debate on the list, so first step is define what you want it to sound
like and such. I love the sound of the 2 chambered flowmasters on a friends
GTO, but I'm so sick of hearing them on Mustangs (late model) that I'd almost
have to advise against them. I think they've also changed their design since
the set on the goat.

Around here, if you're from a small town and have a truck not running glass
packs then you are looked on as weird and a nerd ... I'm running SuperTurbo's
on my truck and like the sound pretty well, i get the weird looks, but the slight
lope of the cam usually shuts them up ... I think if I go through the exhaust
again I'm going to pick up stock mufflers from a Mustang GT ... they're stainless
(guaranteed for 60K from the factory), they can be had cheap (<$100 a pair),
and they're readily available with low miles on them ... oh and 2.25" which
may be a bit smaller than you're looking for, but I drive mine regularly so
want to keep it somewhat subdued. Don't expect it to sound like a stang with
those mufflers on it, I pulled the cats off of my car and WHOA it sounds like
a big block now, maybe a touch louder than my super turbo's even.


>also what type or rims would you suggest?

round ;) That's a big personal choice thing though, some of us weird rim geeks
like different things ... just be sure and get something you like, and that
fits correctly (ie correct backspacing) or you'll become friends with the wheel
bearing nut pretty quickly (right Tony ?)


Good luck, sounds like you got a heck of a deal on that truck.

Just my $.02
wish

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From: "Bob" home.com>
Subject: modified DOVE-C heads
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 11:25:33 -0400

What would be a reasonable price to pay for these heads? I'm building up my
460, and want to know if I should (or can afford to) spend the money on
them.
The ports have been completely reworked and raised. A few of the ports on
the exhaust side have been widened enough that they have exposed a little of
the head bolt passage. They come with 2.25 intake and 1.76 exhaust valves,
bronze guides, there is one guide that is still cast iron ,and K-Motion
K-800 dual valve springs. All machine work has been done, valves ground with
3 angle, and checked free of cracks.

Thanks,

Bob


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From: "Azie L. Magnusson" HiWAAY.net>
Subject: Air vs Hyd brakes
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 10:50:16 -0500


This making brake lines thing seems kinda out of the ordinary to me. 1st off doesn't
the air system on over-the-road tractor trailers operate on 150psi or thereabouts???
Also if you loose air pressure, doesn't the trailer brakes come on automatically??
I've seen several instances where the air storage tank on the trailer came loose(blew
a connection) and the trailer wheels slid from that point until stopped..
On the hydraulic systems the pressures are in the neighborhood of 2500/3000psi as
indicated by someone previously.. I don't have a clue as to the liabilities of companies
or individuals, but it seems reasonable that someone has to stand liable for work on such
an item as the brakes.
Point is - I'll purchase mine that says DOT approved...

Azie Magnusson
Ardmore, Al.


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From: "Garrett Nelson" writeme.com>
Subject: Re: Fw: Power steering up grade.
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 11:25:05 -0500


I always thought it was 68. Hmmmm....


---Garrett www.1966ford.com



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Sent: Monday, July 10, 2000 9:20 PM
Subject: [61-79-list] Re: Fw: Power steering up grade.


I thought 66 was the first year Ford offered a power steering option??

Stock Man
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In a message dated 7/10/2000 9:51:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
WEDIVE247 aol.com writes:

>
> Sure , 65's had power steering .Stock . Just find another 65 and use that
> as
> a replacement .
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From: "Bill Beyer" home.com>
Subject: Re: Re 443 FE
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 10:20:35 -0700

I posted it but I don't know the guy. Someone else on the list said they
knew the guy who's Mustang the engine went in.

"If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, riddle them with bullets"

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From: "Hogan, Tom" kla-tencor.com>
To: <61-79-list ford-trucks.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2000 4:22 AM
Subject: [61-79-list] Re 443 FE


> Who posted this about the stroker FE?
>
> http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://members.tripod.com/lyc_42/443/443.htm
>
> I would like to get ahold of this guy and talk to him about a long rod FE
> idea that I have.




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From: SevnD2 aol.com
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 14:24:43 EDT
Subject: Re: Air vs Hyd brakes

In a message dated 07/11/2000 11:54:40 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
maggie11 HiWAAY.net writes:

<< This making brake lines thing seems kinda out of the ordinary to me.

I contacted a local company here in W-S, N.C. that has DOT approved hoses and
connectors for hydraulic systems. They build the lines to match the ones you
have. This is especially nice if you have changed something like ride height
or other demensions of the vehicle and need a different length than the stock
ones.

<< 1st off doesn't the air system on over-the-road tractor trailers operate
on 150psi or thereabouts???>>

Yes, but closer to 100 - 120 most of the time.

<< Also if you loose air pressure, doesn't the trailer brakes come on
automatically??
I've seen several instances where the air storage tank on the trailer came
loose(blew
a connection) and the trailer wheels slid from that point until stopped..>>

Yes, the air brake systems on the tractor and trailers on the road today need
air pressure to release the brakes to move. They have an air brake chamber at
each wheel position, which is supplied air via an air valve mounted on or
near the air reserve tank mounted under the trailer which is supplied air
from the truck. If air pressure is lost to the brake chambers, the brakes are
applied. There are VERY strong springs inside of the brake chambers, which
are overpowered by the air pressure to release the brakes.

<< I don't have a clue as to the liabilities of companies
or individuals, but it seems reasonable that someone has to stand liable for
work on such
an item as the brakes.
Point is - I'll purchase mine that says DOT approved...>>

I agree. I also insist that the prices quoted as being $26 or higher is
unnecessary when there are better prices for the same or better quality DOT
approved hoses and or lines. You just need to do some searching. I found a
price of less than $10 at one dealer and $30 at another. Both parts have the
same DOT approved rating.

R. H. Hunt


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Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 14:39:16 -0400
From: bill poudrier ma.ultranet.com>
Subject: Bronze or Iron you tell me

Hi,

I have just returned from a machine shop. In talking
about redoing heads the fellow did his best to convince me
NOT to use bronze guides. He said that hardened cast
iron were much better. Do you folks have any opinions?

Bill



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From: DWeaver232aol.com
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 16:10:54 EDT
Subject: Re: replacement freon

A good site to check out for A/C service and freon replacements for the DIY
is
vettenet.org in the A/C section. A lot of the freon replacements that are
legal are mixtures of multiple refrigerants and must be charged as a liquid
and cannot be topped off. You must evacuate and recharge with new. As to the
flammable refrigerants these are a mixture of dry propane and iso-butane.
Flammable refrigerants were used in autos before Dupont developed R-12 in the
30's or so. Dupont then carried out a campain to make the use of them illegal
in mobile A/C systems, but are still used in stationary systems. The air
force carried out some studies in the use of flammable refrigerants to
replace the R-12 used in their vehicles, and from their studies determined
that the chance of major injury was nil. You were much more likely to suffer
injury from the accident that caused damage to the system in the cab of the
vehicle than from the potental fire danger. Most damge tended to cause leaks
outside ot the passenger compartment. Since Dupont also developed R-134a they
spent more money making sure that the use of flammable refrigerants stayed
illegal even though the use of flammable refrigerants have almost no effect
on ozone depletion and are considered minor greenhouse gases. Why does the
EPA concern themselve with it at all, since it has no real enviormental
effects? Considering the 300+ lbs of gasoline I carry in my truck the problem
of 3lbs of flammable gas in an A/C system seems minor. How many of you that
have electric fuel pumps have an inertia switch to turn the pump off in case
of accident? Firefighters really don't like opening the hood and getting
sprayed with gasoline.

Terry Weaver
78 F350 srw

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From: WEDIVE247aol.com
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 19:31:32 EDT
Subject: Re: Oh man, you FEnatics have got to see these...

In a message dated 7/11/2000 2:39:38 AM EST, flash1alltel.net writes:

<< the medium riser heads were NOT expierimental as the seller says on that ad
but they are made by a good mfgr. DOVE and will improve things allot
gordon >>

For that price they had better !!!

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From: WEDIVE247aol.com
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 19:49:12 EDT
Subject: Re: Fw: Power steering up grade.

In a message dated 7/10/2000 9:21:52 PM EST, TBeeeeaol.com writes:

<< I thought 66 was the first year Ford offered a power steering option??

Stock Man >>

Actually, Stock Man , You may be correct but I think that theres a 65 in
a local salvage yard and it has power steering . This truck has been there
for every bit of a year and theres very little left of it . I really don't
know why its still there ?

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From: TBeeeeaol.com
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 20:04:02 EDT
Subject: Parts is Parts (was: Power steering up grade)

How about the rad support? I sure could use a good one for my 66 F250??

Stock Man
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> This truck has been there
> for every bit of a year and theres very little left of it . I really don't
> know why its still there ?

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From: WEDIVE247aol.com
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 20:34:14 EDT
Subject: Re: plastic truck models

In a message dated 7/9/2000 11:20:11 AM EST, np540hotmail.com writes:

<< Any more questions about those kits?

Eh, Carver, funny you mentionned you want to make your own crew-cab
out of 2 kits: I did the same for my 1978 Super-Cab 4x4; had to do it
3 times! first time, cab was too short; second time, cab was too long.
(had to happens, of course!) 3rd time, cab was perfect! but......
Upon doing the final sending prior to painting, the cab fell to the
floor and cracked! For the following hour, I was looking at it, with
a hammer nearby.... Luckily, sanity took over! I put that kit away
in a box, to be fixed later. That was 2 years ago. And last fall, I
bought that same (real) truck I was modeling! Isn't life wonderfull?

Now, for a few places where you might found those kits:
USA
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.carhobby.com/page25.html#OBSOLETE
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.modelempireusa.com/
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.smhracing.com/
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.modelcarkits.com/
CANADA
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.modelexpress.net/
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www3.sympatico.ca/perrysresin/
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.img.net/modelcarmania/
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.kangourou.ca/
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.hobbyworld-inc.com/
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.kitesandotherdelights.com/index.html
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.ecmc.com/
>>
Hey Gerry, I'm having a small problem with that article that you read . You
stated that kit # t-295 was a 63 F100 issued in 68 with a camper shell ? I
went to smhracing . com and they say its for (kit # t-295 ) a 51 ch*#y belair
by AMT . Whats up with that ? I haven't found kit # 8133 issued in 63 with a
go kart ? Any ideas ?

Steve 64 460 ci swb

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From: WEDIVE247aol.com
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 20:40:52 EDT
Subject: Re: Parts is Parts (was: Power steering up grade)

In a message dated 7/11/2000 7:04:51 PM EST, TBeeeeaol.com writes:

<< How about the rad support? I sure could use a good one for my 66 F250?? >>


Not sure about the cond . of it , but I do know that every thing from the
windsheld forward is still there . The tailgate is rusted , the motor is in
the bed with about 10 cases of empty Michalobs, I guess for the most part
most of the body parts are still there . Do you want me to check on the rad
support for you tomorrow ?

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Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 17:54:56 -0700 (PDT)
From: Robert Trivitt yahoo.com>
Subject: 390 engine mounts

Hello everyone. I have been enjoying the list for
quite some time and finally need some input. I am in
the middle of replacing the 360 in my 68 F-250 2wd
with a 390. I ordered new engine mounts from Mac's.
The mounts on the existing engine are threaded while
the new ones simply have an unthreaded nipple. There
does not appear to be any kind of groove or anything
for a locking ring. How are these secured to the
frame?

I am in digest mode, so thanks in advance for any
explanations.

- Rob Trivitt
Puyallup, WA


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From: "Garrett Nelson" writeme.com>
Subject: Re: 390 engine mounts
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 20:13:35 -0500


Hmmm, the 390 mounts I put in my 66 have threaded bolts to attach to the frame. I haven't seen any like the ones you are describing. Maybe they are defective, ask someone at a local parts store about it.

---Garrett www.1966ford.com


----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2000 7:54 PM
Subject: [61-79-list] 390 engine mounts


Hello everyone. I have been enjoying the list for
quite some time and finally need some input. I am in
the middle of replacing the 360 in my 68 F-250 2wd
with a 390. I ordered new engine mounts from Mac's.
The mounts on the existing engine are threaded while
the new ones simply have an unthreaded nipple. There
does not appear to be any kind of groove or anything
for a locking ring. How are these secured to the
frame?

I am in digest mode, so thanks in advance for any
explanations.

- Rob Trivitt
Puyallup, WA


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From: "G & J Boling" alltel.net>
Subject: Re: Oh man, you FEnatics have got to see these...
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 22:20:30 -0700

DOVE makes a good product really but unless your really wanting some
monster horsepower for some reason or just have allot of extra cash to get
rid of i would buy the 427 or 428 CJ stock heads with a good valve job and
ported they are ALLOT cheaper
gordon



> << the medium riser heads were NOT expierimental as the seller says on
that ad
> but they are made by a good mfgr. DOVE and will improve things allot
> gordon >>
> ========================================
> For that price they had better !!!
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From: "Michael White" csolutions.net>
Subject: Re: 390 engine mounts
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 21:51:16 -0600

Did you look closely at the "unthreaded nipple"? I recently purchased FE
mounts for my 69 F250 and each of the threads had a plug on them to protect
them during shipping. If there isn't one threaded stud on each mount, then
you may have purchased the wrong mounts.

If you have the wrong mounts, you might consider Checker Auto Parts,...

# 2290/270-2290
# 2289/270-2289

You can expect to pay about $9 for each.

Michael
~~~~~~~~~~~~~

> The mounts on the existing engine are threaded while
> the new ones simply have an unthreaded nipple. There
> does not appear to be any kind of groove or anything
> for a locking ring. How are these secured to the
> frame?
>
> I am in digest mode, so thanks in advance for any
> explanations.
>
> - Rob Trivitt
> Puyallup, WA


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From: "Tim and Pam Allgire" williams-net.com>
Subject: Re: FTE folks in OH unite!
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 00:12:10 -0400

I'm from Montpelier,Ohio.(n.w. corner) I own a 1978 F-150 with 54,000
miles & a 1994 F-150 flareside with 36,000 miles.
-----Original Message-----
From: Sean O'Malley voyager2.cns.ohiou.edu>
To: 61-79-listford-trucks.com <61-79-listford-trucks.com>
Date: Monday, July 10, 2000 11:09 AM
Subject: [61-79-list] Re: FTE folks in OH unite!


>> >Just curious... how many FTE'ers are in the Ohio area???
>
>Athens, OH.
>
>'78 F150 4x4, and possibly a '69 that I saw for sale recently.
>Frightening how one can go from considering selling one truck
>to owning two :).
>
>--sean
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From: "Tim and Pam Allgire" williams-net.com>
Subject: Re: 429
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 00:14:54 -0400

Anywhere from $400 to $ 700 in this area. (for a stock one) N.W. Ohio. Just
depends on who's selling it.
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From: Jeffrey L Schulz bridgetest.com>
To: 61-79-listford-trucks.com <61-79-listford-trucks.com>
Date: Monday, July 10, 2000 2:30 PM
Subject: [61-79-list] 429


>How much is a good running 429 worth?
>
>CJ
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Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 23:37:35 -0500
From: prices mciworld.com>
Subject: rubber brake hoses

I hate to beat the dead horse with a rubber brake hose, but I have replaced
two sets in the last yr on the front of F100's. Not only are new ones safer,
they may improve your pedal if the old ones are bulging with each pump.
Anyone driving around with original ones on these 79 and older trucks may
want to check them out next time you have the front tire off.

If there are several auto parts stores in your areas, it pays to check the
brand name and the prices. I ordered the premium set from Advance Auto, had
to insist and special order them, for about $25 each. They were Bendix
brand. The normal cheap ones that Advance had in stock were no names for
like $14 each. The local Napa was about the same price as Bendix but I did
not recognize the brand. Both stores have websites, you may want to browse
some there as well as other car parts websites.

One note, I had to reuse the copper washer seal, so don't lose it. I was
expecting new ones with the new hoses, but did not get it. Mine installed
fine and no leaks. And expect the steel nut at the flared line end to round
on you. I had to use vice grips and it wasn't pretty.

bkp



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From: "Mike" connect.ab.ca>
Subject: Freon
Date: Sun, 07 Nov 99 01:00:30 PST

I picked up a brochure describing a new hydrocarbon based refrigerant at a local auto parts
store the other day. This stuff is called 'Duracool 12a'. (Also avail.-Duracool 22a and 502a).
This is apparently a drop in replacement for R12 and 134, supposed to result in lower system
pressure and requires 35-40% of the charge by weight of the other two. They have an email
address: duracoolcompusmart.ab.ca if anybody wants more info. Now, I'm not pushing this
stuff, as I haven't tried it, in fact, this is the first I've heard of it. I hadn't even heard about that
other stuff blowing up.


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From: Natp244cs.com
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 00:58:30 EDT
Subject: 79 F-350 Single Wheel

I saw something today while at the mall (Salvage Yard, that is) that caught
my eye and at the risk of cluttering up this list just to satisfy my
curiosity- I still must ask. It was a Cab/chassis- 1979 Model, F-350, but it
had a single wheel rear axle instead of duals. I know the General made some
trucks like this, and thought Ford might have in earlier years, but I have
either never seen one or never paid attention (which is quite possible). So-
is this an unusual truck? Thanks!

Nate

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From: "davidl" tbcnet.com>
Subject: Re: 79 F-350 Single Wheel
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 02:41:33 -0500

I have a 76 f350 single rear crew cab I am parting out so they did make
them then.

Dave
61 donor unibody 8foot
62 unibody in the stages of trying to figure out what to do with it
62 unibody 292 RED
62 parts donor unibody
77 e350 motor home 460 what else
78 f250 4x4 429
83 f250 4x4 just a 302 now dana 50 front 35 tires 4" sup 4"body
85 f250 4x4 6.9 4sp
nothing new but lots of fun

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From: Natp244cs.com cs.com>
To: 61-79-listford-trucks.com <61-79-listford-trucks.com>
Date: Tuesday, July 11, 2000 11:59 PM
Subject: [61-79-list] 79 F-350 Single Wheel


>I saw something today while at the mall (Salvage Yard, that is) that caught
>my eye and at the risk of cluttering up this list just to satisfy my
>curiosity- I still must ask. It was a Cab/chassis- 1979 Model, F-350, but
it
>had a single wheel rear axle instead of duals. I know the General made
some
>trucks like this, and thought Ford might have in earlier years, but I have
>either never seen one or never paid attention (which is quite possible).
So-
>is this an unusual truck? Thanks!
>



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From: "davidl" tbcnet.com>
Subject: Re: modified DOVE-C heads
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 02:51:30 -0500

D0VE is different then DOVE the second # in the casting is a zero not an
o different that the manufacture of the dove parts I think you have the
d0ve not a set of dove heads right?
Dave
61 donor unibody 8foot
62 unibody in the stages of trying to figure out what to do with it
62 almost like new and soon to be mine this week unibody 292 RED
62 parts donor unibody
77 e350 motor home 460 what else
78 f250 4x4 429
83 f250 4x4 just a 302 now dana 50 front 35 tires 4" sup 4"body
85 f250 4x4 6.9 4sp
nothing new but lots of fun

-----Original Message-----
From: Bob home.com>
To: 61-79-listford-trucks.com <61-79-listford-trucks.com>
Date: Tuesday, July 11, 2000 10:26 AM
Subject: [61-79-list] modified DOVE-C heads


>What would be a reasonable price to pay for these heads? I'm building up
my
>460, and want to know if I should (or can afford to) spend the money on
>them.
>The ports have been completely reworked and raised. A few of the ports on
>the exhaust side have been widened enough that they have exposed a little
of
>the head bolt passage. They come with 2.25 intake and 1.76 exhaust valves,
>bronze guides, there is one guide that is still cast iron ,and K-Motion
>K-800 dual valve springs. All machine work has been done, valves ground
with
>3 angle, and checked free of cracks.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Bob
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