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Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list 61-79-list); Mon, 10 Jul 2000 13:04:35 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 13:04:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Ford Truck Enthusiasts List Server To: 61-79-list digest users Reply-to: 61-79-list  ford-trucks.com Subject: 61-79-list Digest V2000 #153 Precedence: list ========================================================== Ford Truck Enthusiasts 1961-1979 Truck Mailing List Visit our web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ford-trucks.com with the words "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the subject of the message. ========================================================== ------------------------------------ 61-79-list Digest Sun, 09 Jul 2000 Volume: 2000 Issue: 153 In This Issue: Re: brake lines Re: Custom Cab Padded Dash Re: brake lines Re: brake lines brake lines What do you think? Re: Tranny repair Re: What do you think? Re: What do you think? Re: Tranny repair Re: brake lines Re: What do you think? Re: brake lines Re: brake lines Re: brake lines Re: brake lines Power Sterring Conversion Re: brake lines Re: Other '78 F250 Questions Door handles and quarter panel rattles Re: brake lines Re: FTE folks in OH unite! Re: brake lines Re: Tailgate stuck Re: Biggest Radiator Assistance in Denver Area Re: brake lines Re: Power Sterring Conversion Re: Door handles and quarter panel rattles Re: 77-78 F-150 questions Re: Custom Cab Re: Door handles and quarter panel rattles Re: brake lines Re: Other '78 F250 Questions ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bob" Subject: Re: brake lines Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2000 23:29:08 -0400 sure -----Original Message----- From: 61-79-list-bounce ford-trucks.com [mailto:61-79-list-bounce ford-trucks.com]On Behalf Of Tim and Pam Allgire Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2000 11:29 PM To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com Subject: [61-79-list] Re: brake lines $26 for new ones.I would pay that for my safety.Isn't your life worth $52 ??? -----Original Message----- From: Bob To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com <61-79-list ford-trucks.com> Date: Sunday, July 09, 2000 10:49 PM Subject: [61-79-list] brake lines >Just thought I'd ask the list if anyone had a pair of rubber brake hoses. >The ones that go from the solid tubes on the axel to the brake cylinder. Or >even a set of steal braids would be nice. I have a 79 Bronco, but I'm sure >a bunch of them are interchangeable. > >If anyone has a place that I could find these cheap, I'd be much obliged. >(I just think it's a little ludicrous to pay $26 a piece for these little >hoses) > >Thanks, > >bob > >========================================================== >To unsubscribe: >http://www.ford-trucks.com/mailinglist.html#item3 >Please remove this footer when replying. > ========================================================== To unsubscribe: http://www.ford-trucks.com/mailinglist.html#item3 Please remove this footer when replying. ------------------------------ From: "Phil" Subject: Re: Custom Cab Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2000 23:32:29 -0400 While we are on the subject of custom cabs, I went to a show recently and saw 3 trucks 65 and 66's, two were custom cabs, the question is none of them had dash pads, and it looked factory. My 66 custom cab has a pad and so did my parts truck. was that an option that the custom cabs had? Phil Beattie 66 F100 70 F100 91 F150 4x4 ------------------------------ From: EffieFrd aol.com Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2000 23:47:38 EDT Subject: Padded Dash In a message dated 7/9/00 11:38:19 PM Eastern Daylight Time, imstobu stargate.net writes: << My 66 custom cab has a pad and so did my parts truck. was that an option that the custom cabs had? >> I don't know about it being a Custom Cab option, but I'm pretty sure the padded dash was offered first in 1966. ~Mel Marietta, GA 1965 F100 Custom Cab 1989 Bronco XLT G.R.I.T.S ~ Girls Raised In The SOUTH! ------------------------------ From: SevnD2 aol.comDate: Sun, 9 Jul 2000 23:48:22 EDT Subject: Re: brake lines In a message dated 07/09/2000 11:21:28 PM Eastern Daylight Time, tim-pam williams-net.com writes:<< $26 for new ones.I would pay that for my safety.Isn't your life worth $52 ??? >> Not when you don't have to. You can go to the hydraulic eqipment suppliers and have them make an all new line that is every bit as good and may even be better than a stock line is for a better price. I've had high pressure power steering lines made for my Torino for less than $15. Has been on for three years now and has never leaked. I have installed the ones available from parts stores and they have leaked. Bottom line is that some parts stores jack up prices and sell cheap parts. So, Don't overlook having new lines made by a local hydraulic equipment supplier. R. H. Hunt ------------------------------ From: "Erik Marquez" Subject: Re: brake lines Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2000 19:58:37 -0800 A very good idea for trans, powersteering lines, but I'll bet your "hydraulic equipment suppliers " or any other for that matter won't make a brake line for you. The liability issue and all. I've tried to get it done in four states, CA, CA, SC, AK and several places in each state. All have told me "no way" "we are not DOT certified to make brake lines" No you may be able to get it done under the table, or purchase parts and assemble it your self (ala SS lines) but I doubt you'll get some body to just make you some up. Erik Marquez bronco78 alaska.comhttp://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.home.gci.net/~bronco78 Home of the BB decal -----Original Message----- From: SevnD2 aol.com To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com <61-79-listford-trucks.com>Date: Sunday, July 09, 2000 7:49 PM Subject: [61-79-list] Re: brake lines >In a message dated 07/09/2000 11:21:28 PM Eastern Daylight Time, >tim-pam williams-net.com writes:> ><< $26 for new ones.I would pay that for my safety.Isn't your life worth $52 > ??? >> > >Not when you don't have to. > You can go to the hydraulic equipment suppliers and have them make an all new >line that is every bit as good and may even be better than a stock line is >for a better price. I've had high pressure power steering lines made for my >Torino for less than $15. Has been on for three years now and has never >leaked. I have installed the ones available from parts stores and they have >leaked. > >Bottom line is that some parts stores jack up prices and sell cheap parts. >So, Don't overlook having new lines made by a local hydraulic equipment >supplier. > >R. H. Hunt >========================================================== >To unsubscribe: >http://www.ford-trucks.com/mailinglist.html#item3 >Please remove this footer when replying. > ------------------------------ From: "Garrett Nelson" Subject: brake lines Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2000 23:07:02 -0500 I agree, you are dealing with your safety here. Get some good braided steel ones and get some peace of mind with them. You might want to try www.summitracing.com -- give them a call and see what they can find for you. ---Garrett www.1966ford.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 09 Jul 2000 21:50:04 -0700 From: CLAUDE JONES Subject: What do you think? Hey gang, Just wanted to let everyone know that Ken just added a picture of my truck to the pictorial section, tell me what you think? Can't miss it its the Ford Blue and White 66' F250 at the bottom. As you can tell I'm a proud Ford owner :o) Claude 66' F250 CC/CS Fallon, Nv ------------------------------ From: BanksRVA aol.comDate: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 00:54:51 EDT Subject: Re: Tranny repair hey folks, I am looking at a 65 stepside to purchase. I spoke with the seller on the phone and he said the only problem is that the front tranny seal is leaking. How expensive is this to repair? I have no tranny fixing experience so this will go to a shop. The truck has a 390 mated to a C-6 (orig. 3 on the tree). Thanks, Joe ------------------------------ From: "Garrett Nelson" Subject: Re: What do you think? Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2000 23:57:41 -0500 I just saw it earlier today. Looks nice! ---Garrett www.1966ford.com ----- Original Message ----- From: CLAUDE JONES To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.comSent: Sunday, July 09, 2000 11:50 PM Subject: [61-79-list] What do you think? Hey gang, Just wanted to let everyone know that Ken just added a picture of my truck to the pictorial section, tell me what you think? Can't miss it its the Ford Blue and White 66' F250 at the bottom. As you can tell I'm a proud Ford owner :o) Claude 66' F250 CC/CS Fallon, Nv ------------------------------ From: EffieFrd aol.comDate: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 01:01:26 EDT Subject: Re: What do you think? In a message dated 7/10/00 12:53:16 AM Eastern Daylight Time, gizmo phonewave.net writes:<< Just wanted to let everyone know that Ken just added a picture of my truck to the pictorial section, tell me what you think? Can't miss it its the Ford Blue and White 66' F250 at the bottom. As you can tell I'm a proud Ford owner :o) >> Two words....NICE TRUCK. :o) And I can't tell you're proud of it. :o) ~Mel Marietta, GA 1965 F100 Custom Cab 1989 Bronco XLT G.R.I.T.S ~ Girls Raised In The SOUTH! ------------------------------ From: "G & J Boling" Subject: Re: Tranny repair Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 01:30:39 -0700 > How expensive is this to repair? The truck has a 390 mated to a C-6 (orig. 3 on the tree). > Thanks, > Joe > ======================================== hi i would say anywhere between 75.00 and 150.00 should get you a new seal installed anywhere in the country[u.s] more than that look for another shop gordon ------------------------------ From: "G & J Boling" Subject: Re: brake lines Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 01:34:33 -0700 > Not when you don't have to. > You can go to the hydraulic eqipment suppliers and have them make an all new > line that is every bit as good and may even be better than a stock line is > for a better price. > > R. H. Hunt > ======================================== they are BETTER lines gordon ------------------------------ From: Natp244 cs.comDate: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 01:34:08 EDT Subject: Re: What do you think? In a message dated 7/9/00 11:53:02 PM Central Daylight Time, gizmo phonewave.net writes:<< Hey gang, Just wanted to let everyone know that Ken just added a picture of my truck to the pictorial section, tell me what you think? Can't miss it its the Ford Blue and White 66' F250 at the bottom. As you can tell I'm a proud Ford owner :o) Claude 66' F250 CC/CS Fallon, Nv >> Nice ride you have there. Interesting mirrors- do you mind if I ask what they came off of? Or for all I know they could be original!! But they look nice on the truck. Nate ------------------------------ From: SevnD2 aol.comDate: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 01:39:44 EDT Subject: Re: brake lines In a message dated 07/10/2000 12:02:27 AM Eastern Daylight Time, bronco78 alaska.com writes:<< A very good idea for trans, powersteering lines, but I'll bet your "hydraulic equipment suppliers " or any other for that matter won't make a brake line for you. The liability issue and all. >> I work for a trucking company and repair brake systems on trailers. I make up air brake lines from hoses and connectors for them. If I make a repair and it fails, then is my company liable? I was unaware of the liability issue. Just seems like that any company who makes brake lines will be setting themselves up for a lawsuit then. Still, there are better prices than $26 each and just as safe. R. H. Hunt ------------------------------ From: "Jason Derra" Subject: Re: brake lines Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2000 23:22:23 -0700 Working with air brake systems is a little bit different than dealing with the hydraulics of a fluid braking system. If you lose a hose on an air system, a warning light or buzzer should come on long before you lose effective braking. The compressor should keep up with the leak enough to at least get the vehicle stopped safely. With a hydraulic system, you are not replenishing the fluid as it is being lost from the leaking part (hose, caliper, master cylinder, etc) And the pressures being dealt with in a fluid hydraulic system are much higher than the air pressures that we are used to dealing with on tractor-trailer air brake systems. All brake hydraulic connections are crimp fitted and, if properly done, are capable of pressures in upwards of 3000 psi. And yes, if you work on a brake system (air or hyd) and the vehicle gets into an accident because of faulty brakes you and your company are liable. Jason '69 Bronco '96 F250 Ext Cab 4WD Powerstroke E4OD ----- Original Message ----- From: To: <61-79-list ford-trucks.com>Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2000 10:39 PM Subject: [61-79-list] Re: brake lines > In a message dated 07/10/2000 12:02:27 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > bronco78 alaska.com writes:> > << A very good idea for trans, powersteering lines, but I'll bet your > "hydraulic equipment suppliers " or any other for that matter won't make a > brake line for you. The liability issue and all. >> > > I work for a trucking company and repair brake systems on trailers. I make up > air brake lines from hoses and connectors for them. If I make a repair and it > fails, then is my company liable? > > I was unaware of the liability issue. Just seems like that any company who > makes brake lines will be setting themselves up for a lawsuit then. > > Still, there are better prices than $26 each and just as safe. > > R. H. Hunt > ========================================================== > To unsubscribe: > http://www.ford-trucks.com/mailinglist.html#item3 > Please remove this footer when replying. > > ------------------------------ From: SevnD2 aol.comDate: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 02:33:54 EDT Subject: Re: brake lines In a message dated 07/10/2000 2:13:48 AM Eastern Daylight Time, derrar internetcds.com writes:<< if you work on a brake system (air or hyd) and the vehicle gets into an accident because of faulty brakes you and your company are liable. >> Does anyone have any details on liability for a private individual who repairs the brakes on a vehicle? For instance, at some not so later date, the vehicle is in an accident and the brakes are found to be defective and the cause of the accident. The vehicle may even be owned or driven by someone other than the person that repaired the brakes. Seems like if a company can be liable, then even private individuals can be as well. R. H. Hunt ------------------------------ From: "G & J Boling" Subject: Re: brake lines Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 04:19:16 -0700 > Working with air brake systems is a little bit different than dealing with > the hydraulics of a fluid braking system. If you lose a hose on an air > system, a warning light or buzzer should come on long before you lose > effective braking. The compressor should keep up with the leak enough to at > least get the vehicle stopped safely. ======================================== Well explain this to me cause it seems i may be wrong Dead is Dead Isnt it TRY going down a 7% grade with 80,000 lbs pushing you and blow a air line sure the compressor might keep up with it for a few seconds untill your brakes overheat and you lose them to THEN it doesnt matter how much air you have your not going to stop anyways untill you hit something i would trust a hydraulic hose made up by a reputable person a whole lot more than a Mass Produced one ANYTIME it seems that most places anymore have went to using the tempary services to supply their work forces instead of good help so they can pay them minimum wages instead of living wages just think about it how many auto parts have you bought and taken home installed only to find out they were JUNK well the same folks that made those are making brake lines to usually gordon ------------------------------ From: "Michael White" Subject: Power Sterring Conversion Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 03:09:49 -0600 How is the belt for power steering routed in a 69 F250 with an FE engine? Does the belt run straight from the crankshaft pulley to the pump pulley, or does it use a pulley on the water pump also? TIA Michael ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 07:19:57 -0400 From: David Wadson Subject: Re: brake lines >Just thought I'd ask the list if anyone had a pair of rubber brake hoses. >The ones that go from the solid tubes on the axel to the brake cylinder. Or >even a set of steal braids would be nice. I have a 79 Bronco, but I'm sure >a bunch of them are interchangeable. > >If anyone has a place that I could find these cheap, I'd be much obliged. >(I just think it's a little ludicrous to pay $26 a piece for these little >hoses) Whoo, touched off a hot topic with this one! After reading through all the responses on this question, I think we missed the point a little bit. Everyone kind of got onto the discussion on whether you should buy or get custom made steel break lines rather than whether there is a cheaper way to get the brake HOSES. There is probably a surpisingly large amount of force working in those hydraulic lines. I have a book of automotive fundamentals that while not much use when repairing my truck has been very help explaining the principles on how the various components work, including brakes. When you think that you're taking a 5000+ pound vehicle from 70mph and bringing it to a sudden halt, there's got to be a lot of pressure in those lines! You know the replacement part is going to be designed to handle that as well as fit properly into your vehicle. Consider the reason you have the hoses there in the first place...all the motion in your axles. I wouldn't want to trust a steel line or some sort of custom made setup. Granted, you could probably take a brake hose of the same length from another type of vehicle and adapt it to your Bronco but is all that work to make it fit properly (not to mention your life) really worth a lot more than $26? It pays to shop around and find the best deal but in the long run, the peace of mind that $26 gets you is worth it! Now brake lines, on the other hand, are really not all that hard to do yourself. I relined my whole truck with a good length of steel brake line, fittings and a flaring tool that does double flares. It takes a bit of practice to get the hang of making a good, clean flare but it is within the means of a competent backyard mechanic. If you just have to replace a short line, the pre-made sections from an auto supply store are easier to work with, especially when you have to old line as a bending reference. But as for those hoses...just spring for them. One good white knucle, tire-screeching, heart-pounding, pedal-to-the-floor, tromp on the brakes when some guy veers in front of you will make you glad you spent the money. Besides if you want to get ripped off, try getting a distributor cap at the Ford dealer...$27! Good thing my friend had already been that route and new that there was an identical cap there with a slightly different part number that was only about $8! David Wadson - wadsond air.on.ca"PS1" - 79 F100 ...ground into a million pieces. "PS2" - 78 F100 ...currently alive and kicking. "PS3" - 79 F150 4x4 ...now what have I gotten myself into... Thunder Bay, Ontario, Canada ------------------------------ From: "Arnie and his F250 G" Subject: Re: Other '78 F250 Questions Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 08:59:06 CDT And just where do we get this FR12? Sounds like a great thing. I don't care for the R134. Are there any web-sites that we can look at? Thanks for letting us know about it. From: "G & J Boling" Reply-To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.comTo: <61-79-list ford-trucks.com>Subject: [61-79-list] Re: Other '78 F250 Questions Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2000 05:41:44 -0700 Concerning A/C, I know if I tear into the system, I'll have to recharge with > either EXPENSIVE R-12 or convert to R-134 (or whatever). I've heard of the > "conversion kits" at parts stores...has anyone used one? Did it work > correctly? Would you do it again? > > Thanks for the answers! > > Steve Smith ======================================== steve try the new FR12 it gets colder than any of the other stuff and there is nothing to convert with it and uses less than the other refrigerants i have a friend who does A/C work and uses it always now all thats needed is to remove all of the old stuff by sucking it out clean then install it will use either type of oil also i havvent used it myself only because there is no place locally that uses it YET look it up on the web i think Pennzoil and a few others make it gordon ========================================================== To unsubscribe: http://www.ford-trucks.com/mailinglist.html#item3 Please remove this footer when replying. ________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 08:33:15 -0600 From: "Richard Currit" Subject: Door handles and quarter panel rattles Got a couple of questions for the group. First off the patient is a '72 F-100. While going to get out of the truck the other day I grabbed the inside door handle and "pop" it no longer works. Its just flopping around inside the armrest. I haven't pulled the door panel yet but just wanted to know if anybody has had to do this fix before? What is the best way to do it? New parts available or a yarding trip in the works? Also, my right front quarter panel and right rear bed panel have started flopping in the breeze. The welds have broken on the mounts. Any easy way to fix or do I need to get them re-welded (I guess the welding isn't that difficult, but I don't have a welder)? High Plains Richard '72 F-100 ------------------------------ From: "Bob" Subject: Re: brake lines Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 10:56:20 -0400 Survey says: spend the $50 at Peb Boys! Thanks for all the info, I didn't really mean to create such a stir amongst the community. Thanks a bunch, Bob ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 11:07:18 -0400 From: somalley voyager2.cns.ohiou.edu (Sean O'Malley)Subject: Re: FTE folks in OH unite! > >Just curious... how many FTE'ers are in the Ohio area??? Athens, OH. '78 F150 4x4, and possibly a '69 that I saw for sale recently. Frightening how one can go from considering selling one truck to owning two :). --sean ------------------------------ From: "Hogan, Tom" Subject: Re: brake lines Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 08:08:56 -0700 > Working with air brake systems is a little bit different than > dealing with > the hydraulics of a fluid braking system. If you lose a hose > on an air > system, a warning light or buzzer should come on long before you lose > effective braking. The compressor should keep up with the > leak enough to at > least get the vehicle stopped safely. I have never worked on air brake systems myself so I may very well be mistaken but I thought that air brake systems fail-safed to the engaged position. I always thought that the brakes were engaged with no air pressure and the air pressure was used to release them. That way if the system lost pressure the brakes would engage and stop the vehicle. (Unless the driver wasn't aware and kept driving. Seems I heard of a trailer brake fire caused this way.) Tom H ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 11:13:04 -0400 From: somalley voyager2.cns.ohiou.edu (Sean O'Malley)Subject: Re: Tailgate stuck > I have a '78 F250 and the tailgate's stuck. Operating the handle doesn't > work. Does anyone know how to fix it? Take a look up underneath the handle. There will be a control rod running to each side. On my '78, the bushing or clip or whatever used to hold the left side rod was missing. Until I was able to make up a replacement bushing on the lathe, I just used two hands to open the tailgate: one hand operating the handle, the other using one finger to work the loose control rod. --sean ------------------------------ From: "Parsons, Ray" Subject: Re: Biggest Radiator Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 11:13:52 -0400 >Just came back from a camping trip up near Steamboat Springs....I have a 428 in a 69 F-100 4x4, and it ran like a champ.. My question is, what is the biggest radiator that will work in this truck? > CJ I recently purchased a Modine 4 core from Advance Auto in Arvada, CO for $199.95 for my '67 F250 C/S. I use my truck to pull a 6000# loaded horse trailer and have had no heating problems as of yet but have not had it above 9000 ft. Ray ------------------------------ From: "Parsons, Ray" Subject: Assistance in Denver Area Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 11:25:21 -0400 I have a 67 F250 C/S, NP435 that I have tried to tune but am not sure if I have it running optimally. The truck is only used for pulling a horse trailer (6000# loaded weight). Here is the set-up: 500 cfm Holley 2bbl/Unilite dist. I think I have the carb set up ok, but am not sure. I am not the most adept at tuning and am in need of assistance; I have not found a shop in the area that I trust with my truck. If anyone in the Denver area is willing to help, I will be more than happy to buy lunch at your restaurant of choice. I live in Westminster, but am willing to travel as far as Colo Springs or Ft Collins if necessary. Let me know if any of you can help and when you are available. Thanks, Ray ------------------------------ From: "wish" Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 14:39:24 GMT Subject: Re: brake lines >Just thought I'd ask the list if anyone had a pair of rubber brake hoses. >The ones that go from the solid tubes on the axel to the brake cylinder. Hey, $26 isn't that bad, I paid $43 for my drum brake line and that was just one side! There were several issues on this topic about liability and such. Yes if the brakes fail and its a result of what you did, you are liable. If someone else owns the vehicle and you did it as a favor to them, then maybe they're liable, but you will probably feel just as bad. And there needs to be a big distinciton between who YOU trust and who the DOT trusts. Sure, maybe I can make a better brake line from scratch, but if its not DOT approved and my brakes fail and I kill someone, then its my head on the line ... I'm not saying all those rules are good or bad, just that they do exist and there can be severe penalties if something should happen. Just like everything else though you're playing the odds. Just my $.02 wish who will soon need brake lines for his disc brake swap. Ford Truck Enthusiasts http://www.ford-trucks.com ------------------------------ From: "wish" Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 14:42:48 GMT Subject: Re: Power Sterring Conversion >How is the belt for power steering routed in a 69 F250 with an FE engine? >Does the belt run straight from the crankshaft pulley to the pump pulley, or >does it use a pulley on the water pump also? > It should route around the water pump as well as the crank and p/s pump ... Just my $.02 wish 96 Mustang GT 5spd 4.6L 73ish 1/2ton 4x4 6.4L http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish Ford Truck Enthusiasts http://www.ford-trucks.com ------------------------------ From: "wish" Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 14:47:04 GMT Subject: Re: Door handles and quarter panel rattles >Got a couple of questions for the group. First off the patient is a '72 >F-100. While going to get out of the truck the other day I grabbed the >inside door handle and "pop" it no longer works. Its just flopping >around inside the armrest. I haven't pulled the door panel yet but just >wanted to know if anybody has had to do this fix before? What is the >best way to do it? New parts available or a yarding trip in the works? Likely you just popped the actvation rod out of its hole, there should be some little metal clips that slip around the rod and hold it in place in the handle, when these break or become dislodged they can let the rod slip out and the handle becomes useless. Pull the door panel off and take a look to see before you hit the salvage yard, these clips can be purchased new from the HELP section I think, they are also handy for replacing that plastic one in the tailgate latch :) >Also, my right front quarter panel and right rear bed panel have started >flopping in the breeze. The welds have broken on the mounts. Any easy >way to fix or do I need to get them re-welded The front fenders bolt on usually, so check underneath to see if you've lost a bolt or torn the thing out or what, sometimes a bigger washer can be used to hold it in. The rear should have a couple of braces running from the chassis to the lower lip of the bed ... again it could just need a bigger washer to clamp metal instead of rust ... Just my $.02 wish 96 Mustang GT 5spd 4.6L 73ish 1/2ton 4x4 6.4L http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish Ford Truck Enthusiasts http://www.ford-trucks.com ------------------------------ From: "wish" Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 14:51:43 GMT Subject: Re: 77-78 F-150 questions > i have the chance to buy a 77-78 ford f-150 with a 460 engine in it, i think >its the ranger package, it has working AC (frost the windows if you let it) >and its pretty standard ford. it has a c-6 automatic. the guy is asking 600 >for the truck is this a pretty good price? Around here that would be an okay price, especially if the body was in good shape, then it would be a steal. Just my $.02 wish 96 Mustang GT 5spd 4.6L 73ish 1/2ton 4x4 6.4L http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish Ford Truck Enthusiasts http://www.ford-trucks.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 11:03:48 -0700 From: dave Prasse Subject: Re: Custom Cab Hi Phil, My '66 2wd F250 , base truck , no options has a padded dash. My '65 2wd Custom cab and my '66 4x4 custom cab , neither have the padded dash dave Prasse 65 2wd F100 66 2wd F250 66 4wd F261 Phil wrote: > My 66 custom cab has a pad and so did > my parts truck. was that an option that the custom cabs had? > > Phil Beattie > 66 F100 > 70 F100 > 91 F150 4x4 > > ========================================================== > To unsubscribe: > http://www.ford-trucks.com/mailinglist.html#item3 > Please remove this footer when replying. ------------------------------ From: "Garrett Nelson" Subject: Re: Door handles and quarter panel rattles Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 11:23:01 -0500 Find somebody with a welder, it will only take a few minutes to fix. As far as the door mechanisms, sorry I have no advice on that. ---Garrett www.1966ford.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Richard Currit To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.comSent: Monday, July 10, 2000 9:33 AM Subject: [61-79-list] Door handles and quarter panel rattles Got a couple of questions for the group. First off the patient is a '72 F-100. While going to get out of the truck the other day I grabbed the inside door handle and "pop" it no longer works. Its just flopping around inside the armrest. I haven't pulled the door panel yet but just wanted to know if anybody has had to do this fix before? What is the best way to do it? New parts available or a yarding trip in the works? Also, my right front quarter panel and right rear bed panel have started flopping in the breeze. The welds have broken on the mounts. Any easy way to fix or do I need to get them re-welded (I guess the welding isn't that difficult, but I don't have a welder)? High Plains Richard '72 F-100 ========================================================== To unsubscribe: http://www.ford-trucks.com/mailinglist.html#item3 Please remove this footer when replying. ------------------------------ From: JUMPINFORD aol.comDate: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 13:05:59 EDT Subject: Re: brake lines In a message dated 7/9/00 7:47:30 PM Pacific Daylight Time, xavetarx home.comwrites: << (I just think it's a little ludicrous to pay $26 a piece for these little hoses) >> Thats pretty cheap! I blew one apart on Tweety, thought Id replace both at the same time, they were 49 bucks a pop, and they were the ONLY store in town that carried em. Darrell and Tweety ------------------------------ From: "G & J Boling" Subject: Re: Other '78 F250 Questions Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 14:04:27 -0700 > And just where do we get this FR12? Sounds like a great thing. I don't > care for the R134. Are there any web-sites that we can look at? > > Thanks for letting us know about it. ======================================== how i found it was thru a internet search i do recall Pennzoil Oil made one type of it and there were others as well who made it also SO FAR it seems its being kept pretty quiet about how much better it is than the 134a & r12 is But when i told this A/C fella in LasVegas Nevada about it he tried it and now swears by it he told me he can pull the FR12 down to 33 degrees which is way lower than eather of the others can be brought to TRY hunting up Pennzoils web page to see if its on there as i was told you can use either type of oil with it and it needs nothing else to convert over other than emptying the complete system and re-charging with the FR12 gordon ------------------------------ End of 61-79-list Digest V2000 #153 *********************************** <><><><><><> Serious Help Finding That Part! <><><><><><> Ford Truck Enthusiasts now has "Ford Products Interchange" manuals in its online store. 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