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61-79-list Digest Fri, 07 Jul 2000 Volume: 2000 Issue: 151

In This Issue:
Re: freedom
Custom Cab/Plastic models
Re: Custom Cab
Re: Plastic truck models
Re: Custom Cab
Other '78 F250 Questions
Old vs New Trucks
custom cab
Re: Other '78 F250 Questions
Re: Other '78 F250 Questions
Re: Plastic truck models
Re: Custom Cab
Re: 61-66 Cheap-o door panels
Re: Old vs New Trucks
Re: Bashin' is Fun?
Re: Custom Cab/Plastic models
Custom Cab/Ranger Options
Monster FE
Power steering for right hand drive F250 4x4 78
Dana 44 Front Axle
Re: bed liner and trailer brakes question

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From: "G & J Boling" alltel.net>
Subject: Re: freedom
Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 23:56:46 -0700




>
> A61fordtruck aol.com writes:
> >I guess that proves the point that Vietnam vets are not "Fonda-jane"!<
>
> Early in my Marine Corps carreer we had urinal pucks with her picture on
> them. :)
>
> Ssgt John L. Miller II USMC (Ret)
>
> Nuff said
> ========================================
WE didnt give her that much respect where and what we used her picture for
gordon

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Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2000 21:25:34 -0700
From: scott ford-trucks.com>
Subject: Custom Cab/Plastic models

>>I do have a question, though- was the exterior side
moulding only on custom cab trucks (61-66)? Or was it possibly an
option on the others?

I was with my Dad when he ordered his 65 f-250.You could order any
combination of chrome trim,bumpers or interior parts.He ordered a
Custom Cab,Chrome trim,no radio and white front bumper.
Most CCs came with a radio and a chrome front bumper,but.....
You could even order the truck in primer if for some reason you wanted
to paint it yourself.


>>IF you can find it, AMT made a great kit featuring the 73-79 body stlye. It was trimmed out as a '75 or '76 if I remember correctly. came with a car trailer and car, or boat trailer and boat. Good luck

Have not seen that one ,would love to have one being as I have a 76.
Saw a Tweety F-350 Super Camper Special model at
a swap meet once.Guy wanted $40 for it which I thought was a little
high,
walked around some and thought about it and figured what the heck maybe
I can chisel him down some.Went back to his booth and of course it was
gone.
Have not seen one since......

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Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2000 00:53:03 -0400 (EDT)
From: Scott Hall garnet.acns.fsu.edu>
Subject: Re: Custom Cab

On Fri, 7 Jul 2000, scott wrote:

> I was with my Dad when he ordered his 65 f-250.You could order any
> combination of chrome trim,bumpers or interior parts.He ordered a
> Custom Cab,Chrome trim,no radio and white front bumper.

speaking of radios...where do they go on a truck that doesn't currently
have one ('65)? just under the dash, or did ford make a dash with a hole
for a radio?

thanks

scott


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From: "Carver" ncwebsurfer.com>
Subject: Re: Plastic truck models
Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 21:59:28 -0700

I've finally given up looking for an early crewcab model.

If anyone ever finds one, I'll take two, and make my own crewcab!

Since I grew up with this crewcab, and thinking it was
fairly common, I was always looking for a model.

It wasn't until I joined this list did I realize how special
and unique my truck truly is.

Jeff '64 F100 CrewCab

---------------------------

<< I'm getting tired of walking into hobby stores and seeing nothing but
ch#*y truck models on the shelves.
The 67-72 F series has never been produced in 1/25 scale but if enough guys
showed an interest in
them, the model companies would probably oblige. I have addresses for AMT
and Revell/Monogram
if anyone's interested in letting them know we want to see these trucks
modelled. >>

How about tring to find a 64 in 1/25 scale ? Good luck !!!!!


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From: "Carver" ncwebsurfer.com>
Subject: Re: Custom Cab
Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 22:03:03 -0700

The buyer could specify some levels of 'custom',
not necessarily the restorer.

My crewcab only has the door handle guard 'Custom cab'.
No other exterior trim. Interior door trim on all 4,
round dash without extra gauges. It has always been
this way.

Jeff '64 F100 CrewCab
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<< was the exterior side
moulding only on custom cab trucks (61-66)? >>

Yep. The outside chrome only came on custom cab. AFAIK. I could be wrong.
It happens. :o) I have seen several trucks with the interior goodies but
no chrome on the outside. It all depends on how somebody has chosen to
restore the truck.


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From: "Steve and Fran" offspringnet.net>
Subject: Other '78 F250 Questions
Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 22:58:12 -0600

Here are a few questions you guys can chew on:

Does anyone with a '78 F250 have a jingle/rattle on the right/rear area? I
can't find it, and it's not in the brakes because I was just in there.

Does anyone have a problem with paint peeling right around the antenna area
on both sides? Paint just won't stick there.

How can I replace the right side interior door panel? The armrest is
separating from the panel.

My A/C is making a rumbling noise. I think that maybe the bearing in the
compressor is going out? Any suggestions on this before I tear into it?

Concerning A/C, I know if I tear into the system, I'll have to recharge with
either EXPENSIVE R-12 or convert to R-134 (or whatever). I've heard of the
"conversion kits" at parts stores...has anyone used one? Did it work
correctly? Would you do it again?

Thanks for the answers!

Steve Smith


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From: "Carver" ncwebsurfer.com>
Subject: Old vs New Trucks
Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 22:08:34 -0700

I just had some more work done to my truck.
I know, I know, I should have done it myself, but
I just don't have the time anymore.

Just to provide a comparison to a new truck, and
to let folks realize that even if you don't do
it yourself, it's still cheaper to fix up an
old truck.

For $490 I got a new battery (internal short),
new starter (hangs up), new fuel pump (leaky),
installed.

This is at a shop I trust, not cheap, but well
worth the $65/hour shop rate. It's in Auburn, CA
in case anyone needs a good shop.

A co-worker has a '98 non-Ford truck, and
just to have the fuel pump replaced, it cost $400.

Jeff '64 F100 CrewCab


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From: "Mike" connect.ab.ca>
Subject: custom cab
Date: Fri, 01 Jan 88 00:28:22 PST

Actually, wish, the Explorer was a dress up package for the base custom model from 70 to the early eighties. They put the package on the small Rangers, too. Dad's got a 79 with full chrome front, tilt, carpet, 460, fancy side stripes but no side or tail chrome.


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From: "Jason & Kathy Kendrick" mddc.com>
Subject: Re: Other '78 F250 Questions
Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2000 00:50:14 -0500


From: Steve and Fran offspringnet.net
> Here are a few questions you guys can chew on:
>
> Does anyone with a '78 F250 have a jingle/rattle on the right/rear area?
I
> can't find it, and it's not in the brakes because I was just in there.

You might look at the leaf springs and check out the clamps that are riveted
to the springs. Mine were loose and rattled. I inserted a plastic wire tie
to take up slack and prevent rattles.

> My A/C is making a rumbling noise. I think that maybe the bearing in the
> compressor is going out? Any suggestions on this before I tear into it?

Pull the belt off and spin the pulley. It it doesn't feel secure, the
bearing is probably bad. You'l be able to tell if it's good or not.

> Thanks for the answers!
>
> Steve Smith

Jason Kendrick


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From: "G & J Boling" alltel.net>
Subject: Re: Other '78 F250 Questions
Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2000 05:41:44 -0700


Concerning A/C, I know if I tear into the system, I'll have to recharge
with
> either EXPENSIVE R-12 or convert to R-134 (or whatever). I've heard of
the
> "conversion kits" at parts stores...has anyone used one? Did it work
> correctly? Would you do it again?
>
> Thanks for the answers!
>
> Steve Smith
========================================
steve
try the new FR12 it gets colder than any of the other stuff and there is
nothing to convert with it and uses less than the other refrigerants
i have a friend who does A/C work and uses it always now all thats needed
is to remove all of the old stuff by sucking it out clean then install it
will use either type of oil also i havvent used it myself only because
there is no place locally that uses it YET look it up on the web i think
Pennzoil and a few others make it
gordon

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From: Natp244cs.com
Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2000 07:55:16 EDT
Subject: Re: Plastic truck models

In a message dated 7/7/00 10:04:30 PM Central Daylight Time,
WEDIVE247aol.com writes:

<< How about tring to find a 64 in 1/25 scale ? Good luck !!!!! >>

I once asked a model collector about the availability of a 64 F-100 model of
any scale. He said that to his knowledge the ONLY one ever made was a dealer
sales award, and very few of them were ever produced. He said that when you
see one they usually go for around $300. Ouch. I don't know if the guy knew
what he was talking about or not, but he sure thought he was an expert on the
matter : )

Nate

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From: Natp244cs.com
Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2000 08:01:36 EDT
Subject: Re: Custom Cab

In a message dated 7/7/00 11:53:34 PM Central Daylight Time,
sch8489garnet.acns.fsu.edu writes:

<< speaking of radios...where do they go on a truck that doesn't currently
have one ('65)? just under the dash, or did ford make a dash with a hole
for a radio? >>

The stock location was in the dash. If you want to install one in the dash I
think it would be very simple. There wasn't actually a "radio hole." There
were just five round holes drilled in the dash- 2 for knobs, 2 for mounting
screws, and one for the light. of course, you still would not have the
speaker grille, and I'm sure that's not so simple if you want it to look
factory.

Nate

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From: "Bertolin" Ford-trucks.com>
Subject: Re: 61-66 Cheap-o door panels
Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2000 08:26:13 -0700

My '65 custom cab has a couple gauges strapped to the steering column (oil
pressure and amps) along with the idiot lights for oil and amps on the
instrument panel. The gauges on the steering column look like they were
aftermarket but they also appear well aged although remain functional. I
have seen a couple '65-66 custom cabs that actually had these gauges in the
instrument panel. The speedometer on my '65 is oblong (sweeping) not round
and this is typical of other '65 custom cabs I've seen. Does anyone know
whether the zippered side door pockets were a standard item with the custom
cab? My truck still has them but I haven't seen many that do. Roberta with
1965 F-100 Custom Cab

> That doesn't sound like anything I've seen on a 61-66 truck- unless I am
> misunderstanding your question. These trucks were definitely
> lacking in the
> gauge area. I'm not sure what changes were made with the 66
> sweeping speedo
> cluster, but up until then all you had was two idiot lights
> (oil,amp), a temp
> guage, and a gas guage. These were all in the same assembly as the
> speedometer and were crowded into a 7" round hole in the middle
> of the inst.
> panel. Is it possible this is a custom jobby you are referring
> to? If not,
> I sure would like to hear more about it. I learn more about these trucks
> every day (and am reminded of how little I know about them).


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Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2000 09:48:38 -0700 (PDT)
From: "D. DiMartino" yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Old vs New Trucks


that's the beutiful thing about an old truck... they are so
simple! but some will say they don't have ride and comforts of
the newest car/trucks. i wonder what would happen if a retro
truck was made to day, without all the creature comforts and a
ride like, well, a truck... do you think it would sell?
something like an old power wagon?? totally utilitarian? i've
had too much coffee this morning...

=====
Daniel DiMartino
yahoo.com>
1968 F-250 soon to be a 4x4

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From: "Pat" aisl.bc.ca>
Subject: Re: Bashin' is Fun?
Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2000 09:50:14 -0700

And besides, half the fun of owning a Ford truck is working on a Ford
truck.
If I dont break it, when will I ever get to work on it?

Darrell and Tweety


Yup, and the other half is razzing the other guy that broke some
parts, as you help him replace them. Talk about bragging rights, a rude
weekend of USING your truck, nothing goes wrong or breaks, especially with
parts that you made yourself. Gotta love it!
I guess the moral to the story is "it's far better to wear out than to
rust out:
Changing lanes for a minute. I just picked up a set of Skyjacker 6"
lift springs for my 79 Dream Truck. Anyone had any experience with them?
I've been told that I'll only get about 4- 4 1/2" of lift with the 460. Any
truth to this?

Pat
Patsplace
77 F250 4X4
78 F150 W/Overloads
72 Ranger parts truck
79 F250 4X4 (Dream Truck Under Construction)
78 F250 2WD Lariat Donor for the DT.













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From: "Lyndell Smith" fairburn.com>
Subject: Re: Custom Cab/Plastic models
Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2000 13:24:45 -0400

check out this site and see if they have what you want
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://ewa1.com/cgi-bin/webcartc/webcart-frames.cgi
hope it helps
Smitty
www.geocities.com\scb3552

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Sent: Saturday, July 08, 2000 12:26 AM
To: 61-79-listford-trucks.com
Subject: [61-79-list] Custom Cab/Plastic models




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From: EffieFrdaol.com
Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2000 15:05:26 EDT
Subject: Custom Cab/Ranger Options

In a message dated 7/8/00 11:22:35 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
Bertolinaford-trucks.com writes:

<< Does anyone know
whether the zippered side door pockets were a standard item with the custom
cab? >>

What about the Ranger option in '65 and '66? The Ranger was like a Custom
Cab with more interior goodies. Came with the bucket seats and zippered side
door pockets...I THINK. The only difference on the outside was the side
fender emblems, they said "Ranger" instead of "Twin-I-Beam". I looked at a
'65 Ranger once, almost bought it...one of those that you always think "what
could have been". Oh well, there will be more trucks. :o)

~Mel
Marietta, GA
1965 F100 Custom Cab
1989 Bronco XLT
G.R.I.T.S ~ Girls Raised In The SOUTH!

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From: "Bill Beyer" home.com>
Subject: Monster FE
Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2000 14:59:44 -0700

Thought all you FE fans would get a kick outta seeing this. I don't know the
guy that did it, just saw this link in the AHPBBF newsgroup.

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://members.tripod.com/lyc_42/443/443.htm


"If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, riddle them with bullets"




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From: "warrick" yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: Power steering for right hand drive F250 4x4 78
Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2000 23:58:17 +0200


Howzit guys
I am still trying to find out about fitting a power steering
unit into my 1978 F250 4x4 (RIGHT HAND DRIVE) as i
live in South Africa parts for F series trucks are scarce
and so are ideas. Any info on what box to fit and best
ways to fit it without chopping away at my chassis would
be a GREAT help.

Thanks
Warrick ferguson






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From: "Gary Tobolski" mediaone.net>
Subject: Dana 44 Front Axle
Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2000 20:20:23 -0400

Hello. I just purchased a parts truck for use in my 78 Bronco build up.
This truck has a 3/4 ton Dana 44 Front axle. Is this any stronger than the
one in the Broncos, or is the only difference the 8 lug pattern? Also,
since I have this extra vehicle now, I have too many extra parts. If anyone
needs anything for the 73-79 trucks, let me know what you want, or I will
end up sending most parts to the junkyard. Thanks.
Eric Tobolski


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From: "Tim and Pam Allgire" williams-net.com>
Subject: Re: bed liner and trailer brakes question
Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2000 23:17:19 -0400

I got a bed liner out of a 1985 long bed & put it in my 1978 long bed---It
is a Pendaliner Bed Liner---and it fits perfectly. I also bought it at a
salvage yard for $40. It's like new.
-----Original Message-----
From: Southerland, Rich alldata.com>
To: '61-79-listfordtrucks.com' <61-79-listfordtrucks.com>
Date: Thursday, July 06, 2000 1:31 PM
Subject: [61-79-list] bed liner and trailer brakes question


>Thanks to Tony Marino of this list, I am the new owner of a utility trailer
>made from a '73-'79 LB bed and frame.
>http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=359927377
>Got it home this weekend and have a couple questions for those that might
>know better:
>
>Anyone know if a bedliner specified for a later model Ford ('80's) will fit
>these older beds? The reason I ask is b/c a local wrecking yard has
several
>they say came off '80's LB Fords for $30 each and since I got the trailer
>so cheap, I thought I'd fix it up a bit by throwing a liner in it and
>letting Maaco or somebody shoot it.
>
>The seller didn't know much about the trailer other than the fact he bought
>it last year from the estate of the guy who built it (the wiring was never
>finished, but it has BRAND NEW taillight lenses in it). I pulled off the
>7.00x15 bias ply tires and bolted on a couple nice 235/75/15 6 ply
Goodyear
>Wranglers I got at the aforementioned junkyard for $30 (already mounted and
>balanced on Ford wheels!).
>
>The coupler assembly is interesting. It has what appears to be a small
>master cylinder in it. The stock brakes are there and the hydraulic line
is
>plumbed into the unit. There is a small cable with a hook on the end in
>addition to the safety chains. I assume this is to activate the brakes
>should the trailer come loose from the tow vehicle.
>
>There is also what appears to be a small shock-absorber looking thing
inside
>the coupler. A buddy of mine guesses that the trailer is equipped with
>"surge brakes". Any ideas on this? If this is surge brakes, how do I know
>if they are working correctly or not? It tows great as-is, but it would be
>good to know...
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