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Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list 61-79-list); Sat, 08 Jul 2000 22:11:07 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 08 Jul 2000 22:11:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Ford Truck Enthusiasts List Server To: 61-79-list digest users Reply-to: 61-79-list  ford-trucks.com Subject: 61-79-list Digest V2000 #151 Precedence: list ========================================================== Ford Truck Enthusiasts 1961-1979 Truck Mailing List Visit our web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ford-trucks.com with the words "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the subject of the message. ========================================================== ------------------------------------ 61-79-list Digest Fri, 07 Jul 2000 Volume: 2000 Issue: 151 In This Issue: Re: freedom Custom Cab/Plastic models Re: Custom Cab Re: Plastic truck models Re: Custom Cab Other '78 F250 Questions Old vs New Trucks custom cab Re: Other '78 F250 Questions Re: Other '78 F250 Questions Re: Plastic truck models Re: Custom Cab Re: 61-66 Cheap-o door panels Re: Old vs New Trucks Re: Bashin' is Fun? Re: Custom Cab/Plastic models Custom Cab/Ranger Options Monster FE Power steering for right hand drive F250 4x4 78 Dana 44 Front Axle Re: bed liner and trailer brakes question ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "G & J Boling" Subject: Re: freedom Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 23:56:46 -0700 > > A61fordtruck aol.com writes: > >I guess that proves the point that Vietnam vets are not "Fonda-jane"!< > > Early in my Marine Corps carreer we had urinal pucks with her picture on > them. :) > > Ssgt John L. Miller II USMC (Ret) > > Nuff said > ======================================== WE didnt give her that much respect where and what we used her picture for gordon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2000 21:25:34 -0700 From: scott Subject: Custom Cab/Plastic models >>I do have a question, though- was the exterior side moulding only on custom cab trucks (61-66)? Or was it possibly an option on the others? I was with my Dad when he ordered his 65 f-250.You could order any combination of chrome trim,bumpers or interior parts.He ordered a Custom Cab,Chrome trim,no radio and white front bumper. Most CCs came with a radio and a chrome front bumper,but..... You could even order the truck in primer if for some reason you wanted to paint it yourself. >>IF you can find it, AMT made a great kit featuring the 73-79 body stlye. It was trimmed out as a '75 or '76 if I remember correctly. came with a car trailer and car, or boat trailer and boat. Good luck Have not seen that one ,would love to have one being as I have a 76. Saw a Tweety F-350 Super Camper Special model at a swap meet once.Guy wanted $40 for it which I thought was a little high, walked around some and thought about it and figured what the heck maybe I can chisel him down some.Went back to his booth and of course it was gone. Have not seen one since...... ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2000 00:53:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Scott Hall Subject: Re: Custom Cab On Fri, 7 Jul 2000, scott wrote: > I was with my Dad when he ordered his 65 f-250.You could order any > combination of chrome trim,bumpers or interior parts.He ordered a > Custom Cab,Chrome trim,no radio and white front bumper. speaking of radios...where do they go on a truck that doesn't currently have one ('65)? just under the dash, or did ford make a dash with a hole for a radio? thanks scott ------------------------------ From: "Carver" Subject: Re: Plastic truck models Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 21:59:28 -0700 I've finally given up looking for an early crewcab model. If anyone ever finds one, I'll take two, and make my own crewcab! Since I grew up with this crewcab, and thinking it was fairly common, I was always looking for a model. It wasn't until I joined this list did I realize how special and unique my truck truly is. Jeff '64 F100 CrewCab --------------------------- << I'm getting tired of walking into hobby stores and seeing nothing but ch#*y truck models on the shelves. The 67-72 F series has never been produced in 1/25 scale but if enough guys showed an interest in them, the model companies would probably oblige. I have addresses for AMT and Revell/Monogram if anyone's interested in letting them know we want to see these trucks modelled. >> How about tring to find a 64 in 1/25 scale ? Good luck !!!!! ------------------------------ From: "Carver" Subject: Re: Custom Cab Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 22:03:03 -0700 The buyer could specify some levels of 'custom', not necessarily the restorer. My crewcab only has the door handle guard 'Custom cab'. No other exterior trim. Interior door trim on all 4, round dash without extra gauges. It has always been this way. Jeff '64 F100 CrewCab ------------------------------------------------------------ << was the exterior side moulding only on custom cab trucks (61-66)? >> Yep. The outside chrome only came on custom cab. AFAIK. I could be wrong. It happens. :o) I have seen several trucks with the interior goodies but no chrome on the outside. It all depends on how somebody has chosen to restore the truck. ------------------------------ From: "Steve and Fran" Subject: Other '78 F250 Questions Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 22:58:12 -0600 Here are a few questions you guys can chew on: Does anyone with a '78 F250 have a jingle/rattle on the right/rear area? I can't find it, and it's not in the brakes because I was just in there. Does anyone have a problem with paint peeling right around the antenna area on both sides? Paint just won't stick there. How can I replace the right side interior door panel? The armrest is separating from the panel. My A/C is making a rumbling noise. I think that maybe the bearing in the compressor is going out? Any suggestions on this before I tear into it? Concerning A/C, I know if I tear into the system, I'll have to recharge with either EXPENSIVE R-12 or convert to R-134 (or whatever). I've heard of the "conversion kits" at parts stores...has anyone used one? Did it work correctly? Would you do it again? Thanks for the answers! Steve Smith ------------------------------ From: "Carver" Subject: Old vs New Trucks Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 22:08:34 -0700 I just had some more work done to my truck. I know, I know, I should have done it myself, but I just don't have the time anymore. Just to provide a comparison to a new truck, and to let folks realize that even if you don't do it yourself, it's still cheaper to fix up an old truck. For $490 I got a new battery (internal short), new starter (hangs up), new fuel pump (leaky), installed. This is at a shop I trust, not cheap, but well worth the $65/hour shop rate. It's in Auburn, CA in case anyone needs a good shop. A co-worker has a '98 non-Ford truck, and just to have the fuel pump replaced, it cost $400. Jeff '64 F100 CrewCab ------------------------------ From: "Mike" Subject: custom cab Date: Fri, 01 Jan 88 00:28:22 PST Actually, wish, the Explorer was a dress up package for the base custom model from 70 to the early eighties. They put the package on the small Rangers, too. Dad's got a 79 with full chrome front, tilt, carpet, 460, fancy side stripes but no side or tail chrome. ------------------------------ From: "Jason & Kathy Kendrick" Subject: Re: Other '78 F250 Questions Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2000 00:50:14 -0500 From: Steve and Fran > Here are a few questions you guys can chew on: > > Does anyone with a '78 F250 have a jingle/rattle on the right/rear area? I > can't find it, and it's not in the brakes because I was just in there. You might look at the leaf springs and check out the clamps that are riveted to the springs. Mine were loose and rattled. I inserted a plastic wire tie to take up slack and prevent rattles. > My A/C is making a rumbling noise. I think that maybe the bearing in the > compressor is going out? Any suggestions on this before I tear into it? Pull the belt off and spin the pulley. It it doesn't feel secure, the bearing is probably bad. You'l be able to tell if it's good or not. > Thanks for the answers! > > Steve Smith Jason Kendrick ------------------------------ From: "G & J Boling" Subject: Re: Other '78 F250 Questions Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2000 05:41:44 -0700 Concerning A/C, I know if I tear into the system, I'll have to recharge with > either EXPENSIVE R-12 or convert to R-134 (or whatever). I've heard of the > "conversion kits" at parts stores...has anyone used one? Did it work > correctly? Would you do it again? > > Thanks for the answers! > > Steve Smith ======================================== steve try the new FR12 it gets colder than any of the other stuff and there is nothing to convert with it and uses less than the other refrigerants i have a friend who does A/C work and uses it always now all thats needed is to remove all of the old stuff by sucking it out clean then install it will use either type of oil also i havvent used it myself only because there is no place locally that uses it YET look it up on the web i think Pennzoil and a few others make it gordon ------------------------------ From: Natp244 cs.comDate: Sat, 8 Jul 2000 07:55:16 EDT Subject: Re: Plastic truck models In a message dated 7/7/00 10:04:30 PM Central Daylight Time, WEDIVE247 aol.com writes:<< How about tring to find a 64 in 1/25 scale ? Good luck !!!!! >> I once asked a model collector about the availability of a 64 F-100 model of any scale. He said that to his knowledge the ONLY one ever made was a dealer sales award, and very few of them were ever produced. He said that when you see one they usually go for around $300. Ouch. I don't know if the guy knew what he was talking about or not, but he sure thought he was an expert on the matter : ) Nate ------------------------------ From: Natp244 cs.comDate: Sat, 8 Jul 2000 08:01:36 EDT Subject: Re: Custom Cab In a message dated 7/7/00 11:53:34 PM Central Daylight Time, sch8489 garnet.acns.fsu.edu writes:<< speaking of radios...where do they go on a truck that doesn't currently have one ('65)? just under the dash, or did ford make a dash with a hole for a radio? >> The stock location was in the dash. If you want to install one in the dash I think it would be very simple. There wasn't actually a "radio hole." There were just five round holes drilled in the dash- 2 for knobs, 2 for mounting screws, and one for the light. of course, you still would not have the speaker grille, and I'm sure that's not so simple if you want it to look factory. Nate ------------------------------ From: "Bertolin" Subject: Re: 61-66 Cheap-o door panels Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2000 08:26:13 -0700 My '65 custom cab has a couple gauges strapped to the steering column (oil pressure and amps) along with the idiot lights for oil and amps on the instrument panel. The gauges on the steering column look like they were aftermarket but they also appear well aged although remain functional. I have seen a couple '65-66 custom cabs that actually had these gauges in the instrument panel. The speedometer on my '65 is oblong (sweeping) not round and this is typical of other '65 custom cabs I've seen. Does anyone know whether the zippered side door pockets were a standard item with the custom cab? My truck still has them but I haven't seen many that do. Roberta with 1965 F-100 Custom Cab > That doesn't sound like anything I've seen on a 61-66 truck- unless I am > misunderstanding your question. These trucks were definitely > lacking in the > gauge area. I'm not sure what changes were made with the 66 > sweeping speedo > cluster, but up until then all you had was two idiot lights > (oil,amp), a temp > guage, and a gas guage. These were all in the same assembly as the > speedometer and were crowded into a 7" round hole in the middle > of the inst. > panel. Is it possible this is a custom jobby you are referring > to? If not, > I sure would like to hear more about it. I learn more about these trucks > every day (and am reminded of how little I know about them). ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2000 09:48:38 -0700 (PDT) From: "D. DiMartino" Subject: Re: Old vs New Trucks that's the beutiful thing about an old truck... they are so simple! but some will say they don't have ride and comforts of the newest car/trucks. i wonder what would happen if a retro truck was made to day, without all the creature comforts and a ride like, well, a truck... do you think it would sell? something like an old power wagon?? totally utilitarian? i've had too much coffee this morning... ===== Daniel DiMartino 1968 F-250 soon to be a 4x4 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail – Free email you can access from anywhere! http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ From: "Pat" Subject: Re: Bashin' is Fun? Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2000 09:50:14 -0700 And besides, half the fun of owning a Ford truck is working on a Ford truck. If I dont break it, when will I ever get to work on it? Darrell and Tweety Yup, and the other half is razzing the other guy that broke some parts, as you help him replace them. Talk about bragging rights, a rude weekend of USING your truck, nothing goes wrong or breaks, especially with parts that you made yourself. Gotta love it! I guess the moral to the story is "it's far better to wear out than to rust out: Changing lanes for a minute. I just picked up a set of Skyjacker 6" lift springs for my 79 Dream Truck. Anyone had any experience with them? I've been told that I'll only get about 4- 4 1/2" of lift with the 460. Any truth to this? Pat Patsplace 77 F250 4X4 78 F150 W/Overloads 72 Ranger parts truck 79 F250 4X4 (Dream Truck Under Construction) 78 F250 2WD Lariat Donor for the DT. ------------------------------ From: "Lyndell Smith" Subject: Re: Custom Cab/Plastic models Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2000 13:24:45 -0400 check out this site and see if they have what you want http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://ewa1.com/cgi-bin/webcartc/webcart-frames.cgi hope it helps Smitty www.geocities.com\scb3552 -----Original Message----- From: 61-79-list-bounce ford-trucks.com[mailto:61-79-list-bounce ford-trucks.com]On Behalf Of scottSent: Saturday, July 08, 2000 12:26 AM To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.comSubject: [61-79-list] Custom Cab/Plastic models ------------------------------ From: EffieFrd aol.comDate: Sat, 8 Jul 2000 15:05:26 EDT Subject: Custom Cab/Ranger Options In a message dated 7/8/00 11:22:35 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Bertolina ford-trucks.com writes:<< Does anyone know whether the zippered side door pockets were a standard item with the custom cab? >> What about the Ranger option in '65 and '66? The Ranger was like a Custom Cab with more interior goodies. Came with the bucket seats and zippered side door pockets...I THINK. The only difference on the outside was the side fender emblems, they said "Ranger" instead of "Twin-I-Beam". I looked at a '65 Ranger once, almost bought it...one of those that you always think "what could have been". Oh well, there will be more trucks. :o) ~Mel Marietta, GA 1965 F100 Custom Cab 1989 Bronco XLT G.R.I.T.S ~ Girls Raised In The SOUTH! ------------------------------ From: "Bill Beyer" Subject: Monster FE Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2000 14:59:44 -0700 Thought all you FE fans would get a kick outta seeing this. I don't know the guy that did it, just saw this link in the AHPBBF newsgroup. http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://members.tripod.com/lyc_42/443/443.htm "If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, riddle them with bullets" ------------------------------ From: "warrick" Subject: Power steering for right hand drive F250 4x4 78 Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2000 23:58:17 +0200 Howzit guys I am still trying to find out about fitting a power steering unit into my 1978 F250 4x4 (RIGHT HAND DRIVE) as i live in South Africa parts for F series trucks are scarce and so are ideas. Any info on what box to fit and best ways to fit it without chopping away at my chassis would be a GREAT help. Thanks Warrick ferguson ------------------------------ From: "Gary Tobolski" Subject: Dana 44 Front Axle Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2000 20:20:23 -0400 Hello. I just purchased a parts truck for use in my 78 Bronco build up. This truck has a 3/4 ton Dana 44 Front axle. Is this any stronger than the one in the Broncos, or is the only difference the 8 lug pattern? Also, since I have this extra vehicle now, I have too many extra parts. If anyone needs anything for the 73-79 trucks, let me know what you want, or I will end up sending most parts to the junkyard. Thanks. Eric Tobolski ------------------------------ From: "Tim and Pam Allgire" Subject: Re: bed liner and trailer brakes question Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2000 23:17:19 -0400 I got a bed liner out of a 1985 long bed & put it in my 1978 long bed---It is a Pendaliner Bed Liner---and it fits perfectly. I also bought it at a salvage yard for $40. It's like new. -----Original Message----- From: Southerland, Rich To: '61-79-list fordtrucks.com' <61-79-listfordtrucks.com>Date: Thursday, July 06, 2000 1:31 PM Subject: [61-79-list] bed liner and trailer brakes question >Thanks to Tony Marino of this list, I am the new owner of a utility trailer >made from a '73-'79 LB bed and frame. >http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=359927377 >Got it home this weekend and have a couple questions for those that might >know better: > >Anyone know if a bedliner specified for a later model Ford ('80's) will fit >these older beds? The reason I ask is b/c a local wrecking yard has several >they say came off '80's LB Fords for $30 each and since I got the trailer >so cheap, I thought I'd fix it up a bit by throwing a liner in it and >letting Maaco or somebody shoot it. > >The seller didn't know much about the trailer other than the fact he bought >it last year from the estate of the guy who built it (the wiring was never >finished, but it has BRAND NEW taillight lenses in it). I pulled off the >7.00x15 bias ply tires and bolted on a couple nice 235/75/15 6 ply Goodyear >Wranglers I got at the aforementioned junkyard for $30 (already mounted and >balanced on Ford wheels!). > >The coupler assembly is interesting. It has what appears to be a small >master cylinder in it. The stock brakes are there and the hydraulic line is >plumbed into the unit. There is a small cable with a hook on the end in >addition to the safety chains. I assume this is to activate the brakes >should the trailer come loose from the tow vehicle. > >There is also what appears to be a small shock-absorber looking thing inside >the coupler. A buddy of mine guesses that the trailer is equipped with >"surge brakes". Any ideas on this? If this is surge brakes, how do I know >if they are working correctly or not? It tows great as-is, but it would be >good to know... > >========================================================== >To unsubscribe: >http://www.ford-trucks.com/mailinglist.html#item3 >Please remove this footer when replying. > ------------------------------ End of 61-79-list Digest V2000 #151 *********************************** <><><><><><> Serious Help Finding That Part! <><><><><><> Ford Truck Enthusiasts now has "Ford Products Interchange" manuals in its online store. Two editions: 1950-1965 and 1963-1974. 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