Please do not repost, forward or otherwise publish messages
contained in these archives without consent from the respective
author(s). These archives may not, in whole or part, be stored on
any public retrieval system (FTP, web, gopher, newsgroup, etc.) by
individuals or companies, without consent of the respective authors.

Received: with LISTAR (v0.128a; list 61-79-list); Thu, 24 Feb 2000 03:59:43 -0500 (EST)
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 03:59:43 -0500 (EST)
From: Ford Truck Enthusiasts List Server ford-trucks.com>
To: 61-79-list digest users ford-trucks.com>
Reply-to: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: 61-79-list Digest V2000 #15
Precedence: bulk

==========================================================
Ford Truck Enthusiasts 1961-1979 Truck Mailing List

Visit our web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com

To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ford-trucks.com with
the words "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the subject of the
message.
==========================================================

------------------------------------
61-79-list Digest Wed, 23 Feb 2000 Volume: 2000 Issue: 015

In This Issue:
ADMIN: Searchable mailing list archives now online!
Re: Pulling to the right
Re: Anyone have Deacon's address?
Re: Worth anything to anyone?
Re: 352 timing chain
Re: 400's Retarded Cam
292 not getting fire
Re: 352 timing chain
Re: First Timer --- Holley 4bbl
Re: Pulling to the right
Re: sounds of my truck with the new cam
Re: 292 not getting fire
fuel prices
Re: Choke Thermostats 101
Re: 292 not getting fire
Do 64 and 65 fenders interchange?
POWER STEERING HOSE WOES
Re: Do 64 and 65 fenders interchange?
Re: Do 64 and 65 fenders interchange?
Re: Do 64 and 65 fenders interchange?
Re: sounds of my truck with the new cam
Re: C-6 Tranny
Re: Do 64 and 65 fenders interchange?
Re: More on Replacement floor panels ?
Re: Do 64 and 65 fenders interchange?
Re: Do 64 and 65 fenders interchange?
Re: Do 64 and 65 fenders interchange?
Re: fuel prices
Re: parting out 78 f150
Gun, 51, saves man, 83
Re: fuel prices
Re: car prices
ADMIN: Unavailable, death in the family
Re: ADMIN: Unavailable, death in the family
Bronco body on a Scout frame?
Bronco body on a Scout frame?
Re: Bronco body on a Scout frame?
Re: ADMIN: Unavailable, death in the family
F-E with a Q-jet?
Re: ADMIN: Unavailable, death in the family
What is it?
Re: C-6 Tranny
Re: C-6 Tranny
Cab mounts
Re: POWER STEERING HOSE WOES
Re: car prices

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 07:43:04 -0500
From: Ken Payne ford-trucks.com>
Subject: ADMIN: Searchable mailing list archives now online!

The mailing list archive, containing over 120,000 postings,
has been placed on the web site. They can be searched, but
not browsed via an index (to stop spam email address harvesters).
Its missing the last month of archives, but these will be up
soon and a system will be put in place to keep the search
"live" with the latest archives. You'll find the search to
be very fast, off peak search is about 3-5 seconds for
250+ meg of archives, peak is about 6-10 seconds. Amazing
what 256 meg of RAM will do for a system!

This was one of the many items I promised to give everyone
when FTE moved to the new server. More features for the
users are on the way, as soon as I fix a few problems a
small number of users are having. :-)

The search can be found at:

http://www.ford-trucks.com/archives/index.html

Enjoy!



------------------------------

From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)" visteon.com>
Subject: Re: Pulling to the right
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 07:50:52 -0500

In the morning you have dew on the parts and not necessarily evenly
distrubuted due to wind or sun etc.. Any moisture on the pads or shoes will
make them grab. Rust will make them grab, oil will do this too but
eventually oil will make them much less effective too.

When you back up and hit the brakes hard you force the adjuster to move the
star wheel one or two teeth tighter. When the shoes are already tight or
within a certain range of the drum the lever will not move the star wheel so
there is no more adjustment again until the shoes/drums wear a little. If
you do this repeadedly you eventually get both rear wheels approximately the
same tension relative to the drums. This does bring them into a sort of
balance but I never really looked at it that way :-)

I have never had a vehicle with self adjusting rear brakes that did not need
an occasional tweak by hand with the old brake spoon to keep them really
balanced for such conditions as icy surfaces etc.. (yes I do remember when
they didn't have adjusters on them :-))

--
Michigan, Pot Hole Jumping,
78 Bronco Loving, Gary
--

>What's going on here? This morning whenever I'd hit the brakes, the
>truck would pull very strongly to the left. It does this sometimes,
>
>Another question: When you "balance the brakes" by backing up and
>braking a couple of times, what exactly are you doing?

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 07:54:58 -0500
From: Ken Payne ford-trucks.com>
Subject: Re: Anyone have Deacon's address?

At 01:02 AM 2/23/00 -0800, you wrote:
>Sure, I have it. :] I'm using my earthlink server until I can get my
>ford-trucks working. I didn't want to bother you during the change over.
>
>
>Later!
>
>Deacon

Thanks bro, I was getting worried because I knew your address
didn't work and I couldn't find your other address. I'll
email you tonight! We FTE'rs stick together!

Ken



------------------------------

From: BanksRVA aol.com
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 08:58:07 EST
Subject: Re: Worth anything to anyone?

Hey Folks,
I have an 82 E250 that I am getting rid of. It has a 400 (threw a rod), C6
(condition unknown), good rear end, glass, etc.. If anyone has any interest
in anything, contact me at BanksRVA aol.com. I am located in Virginia.

Joe

------------------------------

From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)" visteon.com>
Subject: Re: 352 timing chain
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 09:04:13 -0500

I always use anti-seize on the snout so it comes off easily next time. Some
seal at the washer, some at the shoulder on the crank so "some" will rust on
and be very difficult to get back off.

As for the timing marks, they are all different and some do use the locator
pin as the cam mark, some have an arrow etched in the gear and some use a
dimple. Some crank gears have no mark and the key way is the mark. Look
them over very carefully for dimples first, then etched arrows, then scribed
lines.....if all else fails then use the dowl and crank keyway as marks.

The cam can not be 180 out since the cam turns at 1/2 crank speed but the
crank can be since this would put it at 90 degrees to the cam instead of
180, make sense? If you have not removed the cam or the dizzy, cam timing
is a cinch, move the crank till the mark (or keyway) points up and move the
cam til the rotor lines up with number one plug contact in the cap. Now
look for any kind of mark that appears to be lined up with the crank and
fine tune the alignment as you install the chain.

If the dizzy has been removed then you have less to go on but still may be
able to discern something that acts as a mark. One 2300 I had was tough
because there were two slots about 20 degrees apart and a third one about 90
degrees from them......I believe this turned out to be one of those with the
dowl acting as the mark, not sure now. One I had had holes all around but
one of them had a little arrow pointer cast into it.....

--
Michigan, Pot Hole Jumping,
78 Bronco Loving, Gary
--

>get the harmonic balancer off, which always means i need a
>bigger wrench,
>question is how shuld i go about puytting the new one on
>anything special,
>because i know it shouldnt be going this smoothly (ya know

------------------------------

From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)" visteon.com>
Subject: Re: 400's Retarded Cam
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 09:06:25 -0500

Time the cam straight up. All cranks I remember looking at with the timing
in mind seem to line the crank keyway up with tdc. If the dimple is not
located at the keyway but maybe a tooth or two off this may be your clue :-)

--
Michigan, Pot Hole Jumping,
78 Bronco Loving, Gary
--

>Ive heard that Ford decided to retard teh camshaft timing for
>most of the
>years the 400's were produced. DOes anybody have teh specs on
>how much it was
>retarded?

------------------------------

From: "Moore, Jimmy" ZymeTx.com>
Subject: 292 not getting fire
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 08:18:37 -0600


I have the 1964 Ford F-100 with the 292 V8 in it. I replaced the plugs,
wires, distributor cap/rotor, and yet I still do not get any fire. Does
anyone have any other suggestions? I know I'm not getting fire because
while cranking, I pulled a plug wire and held it close to the manifold, and
there was no spark.

Thanks,
Jim Moore

Jim Moore
1981 Ford F-150 300 Six
1964 Ford F-100 292
Oklahoma City, OK

------------------------------

From: "William S. Hart" iastate.edu>
Subject: Re: 352 timing chain
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 08:25:02 -0600

> As for the timing marks, they are all different and some do use
> the locator
> pin as the cam mark, some have an arrow etched in the gear and some use a
> dimple.

This is how my gearset for my 360 was ... dimples ... seems like 2, suppose
I could check the old gearset (why on earth did I keep that?)

> The cam can not be 180 out since the cam turns at 1/2 crank speed but the
> crank can be since this would put it at 90 degrees to the cam instead of
> 180, make sense?

Nope, not at all .... if the crank is 180 out ...then its back to 0 'cause
there's only 4 strokes and the short block really doesn't care if its on the
compression or exhaust strokes ... and I don't understand how you could get
it 90 out unless you were reading the wrong timing marks or moved the cam
independant of the crank ...

Just my $.02
wish

96 Mustang GT 5spd 4.6L
73ish 1/2ton 4x4 6.4L
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish


------------------------------

From: "William S. Hart" iastate.edu>
Subject: Re: First Timer --- Holley 4bbl
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 08:30:52 -0600

> I just replace the choke tube which was flanged to the Intake
> manifold (??) just
> below the choke.


Just an FYI, I picked up a Mustangs Unlimited catalog last night ... they
sent me the 65-73 catalog despite my claim of having a 96 (*shrug* who
understands) ...anyway I noticed they sell a couple of really cool things
... first is choke tubes pre bent and with the sleeve over them ... might
not be exactly the same for a truck but could likely be close enough to work
... ($15 ?)

And the other thing was a fuel pump to carb line ... these are always
interesting to try and make, now they have em for ya, if you need that sort
of thing ...

No experience with them really, just passin along some info.

Just my $.02
wish

96 Mustang GT 5spd 4.6L
73ish 1/2ton 4x4 6.4L
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish


------------------------------

From: "William S. Hart" iastate.edu>
Subject: Re: Pulling to the right
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 08:33:35 -0600

> What's going on here? This morning whenever I'd hit the brakes, the
> truck would pull very strongly to the left. It does this sometimes,
> either to the left or the right, depending on its mood.

Sounds to me like you've got a wheel-cylinder hanging up ... usually its the
one opposite of the way it pulls, depending on the pull of course ... our 69
'stang has that problem, it'll spin the steering wheel 1.5 times around if
you're not holding onto it ... our problem is a stuck right cylinder (causes
it to not brake) and a grabby left one (causes it to not and then suddenly
come on full) ... check to see if there are any traces of fluid down the
inside of the wheels, that will indicate a leaky one which would definitely
cause problems ...

On my truck the front left is always the first to lock up, but then again my
truck's always been a different one...

Just my $.02
wish

96 Mustang GT 5spd 4.6L
73ish 1/2ton 4x4 6.4L
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish


------------------------------

From: "William S. Hart" iastate.edu>
Subject: Re: sounds of my truck with the new cam
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 08:35:56 -0600

> Some of you might remember me talking about which cam to buy on the list
> a while back, well anyway I finally got a 272 crane cam installed and
> just posted a wav file of my truck on my web site. Check it out and
> tell me what you think...
>

Heh ... sounds pretty good :) What are you runnin for exhaust ? Seems
quite a bit louder than mine, but the same notes in there, I'd guess maybe
some headers and cherry bombs, with a full exhaust going all the way out the
back ?

Just my $.02
wish

96 Mustang GT 5spd 4.6L
73ish 1/2ton 4x4 6.4L
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish


------------------------------

From: "William S. Hart" iastate.edu>
Subject: Re: 292 not getting fire
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 08:37:47 -0600

> I have the 1964 Ford F-100 with the 292 V8 in it. I replaced the plugs,
> wires, distributor cap/rotor, and yet I still do not get any fire. Does
> anyone have any other suggestions? I know I'm not getting fire because
> while cranking, I pulled a plug wire and held it close to the
> manifold, and
> there was no spark.
>

Points and condensor ? Have you checked them to be sure they aren't shot
(the points at least, its a matter of course to put the condensor in at the
same time)...


http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/Tech/Tuneup/tune.html


Just my $.02
wish

96 Mustang GT 5spd 4.6L
73ish 1/2ton 4x4 6.4L
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish


------------------------------

From: "Don Jones" hotmail.com>
Subject: fuel prices
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 06:56:18 PST

The Price of premiun unleaded has just hit 82˘ a litre here (about $3.00 US
gallon). Regular is 72˘ a litre.
My truck will run on regular, but its not really happy with it. It pings
under moderate accelleration.
Any ideas on tuning for lower quality gas, besides retarding the timing or
lowering the compression? Will an electronic igniton make much difference?
Colder heat range spark plugs was one suggestion I got. I have a 1970 f-250
4x4 with a 360 4 speed 78,000 miles (at 10 mpg thats 7,800 gallons of gas
in the last 30 years!!)

Don Jones
1970 f-250 4x4

______________________________________________________


------------------------------

From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)" visteon.com>
Subject: Re: Choke Thermostats 101
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 10:03:47 -0500

What I call the choke "cap" is heated by the 12v input via a heater element
cast into the cap and attached to the coil spring. What I call the choke
"stove" is the part that makes hot air to go into the choke cap/housing to
heat the spring once the engine warms up and maintain the temp even when you
shut it off for a while. Some engines, small ones especially use coolant
flow to keep it hot but the electric to initially open it so it can be
opened a little sooner. If you connect a multimeter to the terminal of the
choke cap and battery ground you should read something less than battery
voltage but as the cap warms up the voltage will climb due to less draw from
the heater. When the heater is at full boil the voltage should be virtually
the same as the battery. This is with all components hooked up and ignition
turned on, of course :-) If it comes off too fast it may be shorted and
need replacement or you may need to add a ballast resistor to slow it down
but don't get carried away.....I used 0.7 ohms and knocked the voltage down
to 9.7. At 8v the coil never opened at all.

The fast idle uses a lever attached to the throttle shaft in some manner to
engage a stepped "cam" which either falls away as the choke opens or is
pulled away by the choke linkage to release the throttle shaft which is then
controlled by the idle speed screw. Some are adjustable, some are just a
lever with no adjustment and some of these can be bent slightly to adjust
the speed. Most cams have a link to the choke plate shaft which can be bent
to adjust the point where the speed changes etc. too.

--
Michigan, Pot Hole Jumping,
78 Bronco Loving, Gary
--
>not. I have an electric choke, and the prescribed voltage is
>at the terminals
>when the ignition is on.
>
>Is the choked activated by electric heating, the choke stove, or both?
>
>The fast idle doesn't. I guess I will have to spend some time
>figuring this
>out.

------------------------------

From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)" visteon.com>
Subject: Re: 292 not getting fire
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 11:07:19 -0500

With points it's very easy to test each part progressively for spark:

Remove the dizzy cap, pull the coil wire from it, rotate the engine till the
points are completely closed but where you can rotate the rotor and make
them open. Now turn on the ignition, put the coil wire, cap end near a
ground (with insulated pliers of course) and open and close the points. If
all your efforts do not result in a spark at the coil wire secondary, also
look at the points themselves to be sure there is a spark jumping there when
you open them.

From this simple test you can determine if you have primary power to the
points and thus through the coil and also check coil operation. If this is
working then the cap, rotor or plug wires can be the problem etc....

--
Michigan, Pot Hole Jumping,
78 Bronco Loving, Gary
--

>I have the 1964 Ford F-100 with the 292 V8 in it. I replaced
>the plugs,
>wires, distributor cap/rotor, and yet I still do not get any
>fire.

------------------------------

From: nukegm ford-trucks.com
Subject: Do 64 and 65 fenders interchange?
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 08:10:35 -0800


I have a buddy who needs a 64 left hand fender. I have found
a cherry 65 left fender and need to know if these
parts interchange. For some reason, I was thinking they were
different - any help is appreciated.

Thanks,

Stu
Nuke GM!


-----
Sent using MailStart.com ( http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://MailStart.Com/welcome.html )
The FREE way to access your mailbox via any web browser, anywhere!


------------------------------

From: prozell oaielectronics.com (OAI Electronics: Paul Rozell)
Subject: POWER STEERING HOSE WOES
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 10:35:04 -0600

HI ALL,
I INSTALED POWER STEERING ON MY 65 F100. AND AM IN NEED OF A PRESSURE HOSE
FOR MY TRUCK. HAS ANY ONE ON THE LIST INSTALLED POWER STEERING ON A 65????
IF SO WHAT HOSE WILL FIT THE APPLICATION. THE PUMP IS ON A 460. ANY HELP
WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED.

PAUL
65 F100 460 C6(UNDER CONSTRUCTION)


------------------------------

Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 11:36:16 -0500
From: Ted Wnorowski onebellevue.com>
Subject: Re: Do 64 and 65 fenders interchange?

I was under the same impression. Unless I'm not using it correctly, my Hollander Manual says no. '61-'64 for 15" or 16" wheels is part # C2TZ16005C. In a separate listing it shows the '65-'66 by itself. C2TZ16005E is the part #.
BTW this manual is a reprint from Hollander and has "current" prices. The '61-'64 should cost $49.45, the '65-'66 are also listed at $49.45. : )

Ted Wnorowski
Bellevue,OH
'64 F-250

nukegm ford-trucks.com wrote:

> I have a buddy who needs a 64 left hand fender. I have found
> a cherry 65 left fender and need to know if these
> parts interchange. For some reason, I was thinking they were
> different - any help is appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Stu
> Nuke GM!
>
> -----
> Sent using MailStart.com ( http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://MailStart.Com/welcome.html )
> The FREE way to access your mailbox via any web browser, anywhere!
>
> ==========================================================
> To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ford-trucks.com with
> the words "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the body of the
> message.



------------------------------

From: prozell oaielectronics.com (OAI Electronics: Paul Rozell)
Subject: Re: Do 64 and 65 fenders interchange?
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 11:01:32 -0600

Ted,
This is a little off of the subject but where did you get the Hollanders
manual??? I have heard about them but did not know where to get one. I would
be greatly appreciative if you can help.

Paul
Tulsa, Ok
65 F100 460 C6

----- Original Message -----
From: Ted Wnorowski onebellevue.com>
To: <61-79-list ford-trucks.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2000 10:36 AM
Subject: [61-79-list] Re: Do 64 and 65 fenders interchange?


> I was under the same impression. Unless I'm not using it
correctly, my Hollander Manual says no. '61-'64 for 15" or 16" wheels is
part # C2TZ16005C. In a separate listing it shows the '65-'66 by itself.
C2TZ16005E is the part #.
> BTW this manual is a reprint from Hollander and has "current"
prices. The '61-'64 should cost $49.45, the '65-'66 are also listed at
$49.45. : )
>
>
Ted Wnorowski
>
Bellevue,OH
>
'64 F-250
>
> nukegm ford-trucks.com wrote:
>
> > I have a buddy who needs a 64 left hand fender. I have found
> > a cherry 65 left fender and need to know if these
> > parts interchange. For some reason, I was thinking they were
> > different - any help is appreciated.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Stu
> > Nuke GM!
> >
> > -----
> > Sent using MailStart.com ( http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://MailStart.Com/welcome.html )
> > The FREE way to access your mailbox via any web browser, anywhere!
> >
> > ==========================================================
> > To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ford-trucks.com with
> > the words "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the body of the
> > message.
>
>
> ==========================================================
> To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ford-trucks.com with
> the words "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the body of the
> message.
>


------------------------------

Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 12:01:18 -0500
From: Ted Wnorowski onebellevue.com>
Subject: Re: Do 64 and 65 fenders interchange?

I ordered it directly from here: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.hollander-auto-parts.com/

Ted
OAI Electronics: Paul Rozell wrote:

> Ted,
> This is a little off of the subject but where did you get the Hollanders
> manual???



------------------------------

Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 08:27:53 -0900
From: "Matthew Schumacher" 7x.com>
Subject: Re: sounds of my truck with the new cam

Wish,

Actually I have stock exhaust manifolds running straight dual exhaust to
some cheap NAPA turbo mufflers. I am hoping to get some headers soon,
but I have IM laws to deal with. Believe it or not my truck is still IM
legal with that cam in it.

schu

"William S. Hart" wrote:
>
> > Some of you might remember me talking about which cam to buy on the list
> > a while back, well anyway I finally got a 272 crane cam installed and
> > just posted a wav file of my truck on my web site. Check it out and
> > tell me what you think...
> >
>
> Heh ... sounds pretty good :) What are you runnin for exhaust ? Seems
> quite a bit louder than mine, but the same notes in there, I'd guess maybe
> some headers and cherry bombs, with a full exhaust going all the way out the
> back ?
>
> Just my $.02
> wish
>
> 96 Mustang GT 5spd 4.6L
> 73ish 1/2ton 4x4 6.4L
> http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish
>
> ==========================================================
> To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ford-trucks.com with
> the words "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the body of the
> message.

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 09:30:00 -0800
From: Don Mears uswest.net>
Subject: Re: C-6 Tranny

Does anybody have a rebuilt C-6 in the greater Puget Sound area? I am in
need of a C-6 real bad. Thanks.
Don

------------------------------

From: Natp244 cs.com
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 12:41:49 EST
Subject: Re: Do 64 and 65 fenders interchange?

As somebody has already answered, they do not. Though they look the same
from the outside, the inside is where the dieeference is evident. The 65
incorporated what seems to be an attempt at a hood support along the top of
the inner fender. The 65-66 are straight along the top of the inner fenders,
where the 61-64 are curved.

Nate
1964 F-100 Custom Cab 292 V-8
1964 F-100 292 V-8
1990 F-150 XLT Lariat 5.8L

P.S.- Hi, everybody! I'm new to this list- been reading along for a couple
of weeks now. I'll be doing a lot more reading than writing anyway. I've
really enjoyed the conversations so far.

------------------------------

From: oldfords63 juno.com
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 13:13:01 -0600
Subject: Re: More on Replacement floor panels ?

>"Peters, Gary (G.R.)" writes:
> Floors are pretty easy to make from scratch if you have welding skills
but>>>>>>>>
>-------------------------------------------------------
Yeah Gary, that's what I had to do on me 64 and it's not that bad if you
have and can use a MIG welder, but it would be nice to have the same
availability as some of the older Fords and virtually ALL the "Generals"
trucks. That wouldn't get you away from needing a welder, but at least it
would look real nice when finished. Phil
________________________________________________________________





------------------------------

Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 11:01:59 -0800
From: Don Grossman mac.com>
Subject: Re: Do 64 and 65 fenders interchange?

>As somebody has already answered, they do not. Though they look the same
>from the outside, the inside is where the dieeference is evident. The 65
>incorporated what seems to be an attempt at a hood support along the top of
>the inner fender. The 65-66 are straight along the top of the inner fenders,
>where the 61-64 are curved.
>
>Nate

Not to burst any bubbles here but the inner and outer fenders should
bolt to each other. I have a set of 65 inner fenders and radiator
support I am going to use on my 63. The outer fender are going back
on and are 63 fenders. Almost all the holes match right up. the
only ones that are not right are the two in the rear. Here is a pic
for verification. Pleases excuse the mess as I have been working
lots of weird hours, winter wether, life in general.

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.pacific.net/~duckdon/fender.htm

laters

Don Grossman
43 GPW
63 F-100 4x4
77 F-250
99 Contour
--

------------------------------

From: oldfords63 juno.com
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 15:21:39 -0600
Subject: Re: Do 64 and 65 fenders interchange?

Don Grossman writes:
> Not to burst any bubbles here but the inner and outer fenders should
bolt to each other.
-------------------------------------------------------------------
Don- I'd always thought they were the same too. The only difference being
the wheel opening size for the early 4x4's. ( I'd always assumed those
are the ones with the different part number.)
Anybody ?? Later,Phil (64 w/ mixed fenders)
________________________________________________________________





------------------------------

From: Natp244 cs.com
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 15:56:14 EST
Subject: Re: Do 64 and 65 fenders interchange?

okay, my bad- it seems they do interchange after all. I just though I
rememberd running up against a brick wall when I tried to do that on my 64-
but I guess my memory served me badly. Sorry for the confusion- I'll go back
to reading again for a little while!!

Thanks to everyone for keeping me strait.

Nate

------------------------------

From: L7514 aol.com
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 16:11:48 EST
Subject: Re: fuel prices

Just a suggestion that would probably be the easiest. Try a gasoline octane
booster. It works good and relatively cheap to use.
Lance

------------------------------

From: L7514 aol.com
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 16:17:07 EST
Subject: Re: parting out 78 f150

Anyone know if this 78 has a body on it?

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 14:14:29 -0700
From: "Kiernan, Denny" wenet.net>
Subject: Gun, 51, saves man, 83

Excerpts from a story in the SF Examiner, about an old guy shooting a
burglar dead,

> Gun, 51, saves man, 83
> Feb. 22, 2000

> URL:
> http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/examiner/archive/2000/02/22/NEWS13168.dtl
>
> Long-neglected revolver kills armed intruder in
> retiree's HuntersPoint home
. . .
> He bought the .38-caliber Smith & Wesson 51 years ago and by his own
> reckoning fired it only seven or eight times - and not at all for about 30
> years. He rarely oiled the weapon and, for decades, just left it beneath a
> rug under his bed.
. . .
> Parker said he might have fired the gun once in the 1970s but wasn't
> sure. His maintenance of the gun was sporadic. He used transmission
> fluid instead of gun oil as a lubricant.

I wonder what type of transmission fluid he used? Or how about filling
your transmission with gun oil?

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 16:08:04 -0500
From: "G.T. Herpich" bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: fuel prices

My '71 360 ran on regular even with 16 degrees lead. Maybe you have a
serious carbon build up. I just yanked the 360 in favor of a 390 and
pulled a head to check the bore. No carbon at all (the way I drive it's
no wonder:). The c/r is is the 7s, I think, and there shouldn't be any
problem running regular. If pinging does not occur until vacuum rises
you may be able to tune it out by adjusting the vacuum advance. You can
do this by taking the vacuum hose off and inserting the proper size
allen wrench into the unit. Clockwise will lessen the amount of advance.
A timing light with a dial can be used to keep track of your progress,
or, start by turning the adjuster all the way in while counting turns so
you have a reference point to go back to. If, when at cruising speed,
you give it a little gas and that's when it pings vacuum advance adj
could cure it.


At 3.00 a gallon my bet would be carbon because you probably keep your
foot out of it for the most part, right? At 78,000 it shouldn't be using
any oil but that will build carbon fast.
Don Jones wrote:
>
> The Price of premiun unleaded has just hit 82˘ a litre here (about $3.00 US
> gallon). Regular is 72˘ a litre.
> My truck will run on regular, but its not really happy with it. It pings
> under moderate accelleration.
> Any ideas on tuning for lower quality gas, besides retarding the timing or
> lowering the compression? Will an electronic igniton make much difference?
> Colder heat range spark plugs was one suggestion I got. I have a 1970 f-250
> 4x4 with a 360 4 speed 78,000 miles (at 10 mpg thats 7,800 gallons of gas
> in the last 30 years!!)
>
> Don Jones
> 1970 f-250 4x4
>
> ______________________________________________________
> >
> ==========================================================
> To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ford-trucks.com with
> the words "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the body of the
> message.

------------------------------

From: NUTCH11 aol.com
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 18:05:23 EST
Subject: Re: car prices

hi

I n 1939 a brand new 1939 ford convertable cost $700.
in 1956 a new t-bird was around 3200 (new one is around $40,000)
a 1965 mustang was around $2500 for a v-8 model
you could buy a new 1962 dodge 426 wedge with a 4-speed fpr $2200.
interestingly i think is that gasoline was around .32 per gallon in 1965
(hi-test)
today right now hi-test is around $1.60 and that's only in the last few months
gas has gone up (if you use today's figures) only 5 times and cars have gone
up 10
times ( pick-ups have gone up much more than that). we gripe about price of
gas
and have no problem going out to get a new car????????????
housing is more 10 times what it was in the mid 60's. minimum wages are up 5
times ??????????

nutch

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 19:02:57 -0500
From: Ken Payne ford-trucks.com>
Subject: ADMIN: Unavailable, death in the family

Due to a death in the family, all replies to emails
sent to the Ford Truck Enthusiasts admin (me) will
be delayed until Monday, Feb. 28. I apologize for
an inconvenience this may cause subscribers to our
mailing lists, message board users and web store
purchases. Please exercise some patience with me
if you have problems unsubscribing or with other
list problems --- naturally, the web site is not
my #1 priority right now.

I would appreciate it if some of the list old timers
would keep an eye on things for me and help anyone
out in any capacity that you can. You guys/gals have
a great community and I trust you with it.

Regards,
Ken Payne
Admin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts



------------------------------

From: "Jerry Godsey" prodigy.net>
Subject: Re: ADMIN: Unavailable, death in the family
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 17:30:16 -0800

Ken, our prayers are with you and your family...
Blessings,
Jerry Godsey
www.geocities.com/view_from_pew


------------------------------

From: "Robert Werner" postmaster.co.uk>
Subject: Bronco body on a Scout frame?
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 02:59:03 +0000

I just heard of a IHC Scout for sale near me w/ a 302 in it and a bad body. I was wondering if you could stick an early bronc body on that frame, and I could just junk the body. I'd ruther keep it all the same(all ford or all IHC), but since I'm just a mere high school student with limited money and time ( the dunes open april 1), I'll have to take what I can get. Thanks, Robert

P.S. I'm thinkin maybe a glass body would be good, anybody got an info on them?

------------------------------

From: "Robert Werner" postmaster.co.uk>
Subject: Bronco body on a Scout frame?
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 02:59:00 +0000

I just heard of a IHC Scout for sale near me w/ a 302 in it and a bad body. I was wondering if you could stick an early bronc body on that frame, and I could just junk the body. I'd ruther keep it all the same(all ford or all IHC), but since I'm just a mere high school student with limited money and time ( the dunes open april 1), I'll have to take what I can get. Thanks, Robert

P.S. I'm thinkin maybe a glass body would be good, anybody got an info on them?

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 21:25:02 -0800
From: wicowboy gateway.net>
Subject: Re: Bronco body on a Scout frame?

Robert Werner wrote:
>
> I just heard of a IHC Scout for sale near me w/ a 302 in it and a bad body. I was wondering if you could stick an early bronc body on that frame, and I could just junk the body. I'd ruther keep it all the same(all ford or all IHC), but since I'm just a mere high school student with limited money and time ( the dunes open april 1), I'll have to take what I can get. Thanks, Robert
>
> P.S. I'm thinkin maybe a glass body would be good, anybody got an info on them?

Which dunes, where you from? Just curious if maybe I'd have a new
wheelin' buddy if you were talkin about Michigan....

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 19:30:19 -0700
From: "Kiernan, Denny" wenet.net>
Subject: Re: ADMIN: Unavailable, death in the family

I'm very sorry to hear the sad news, Ken. I've only been on the list a
short time, but I feel that I know you and share your loss.

Denny

------------------------------

From: pdesanto Cinergy.com
Subject: F-E with a Q-jet?
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 22:24:35 -0500

¤¤Subject: 4V FE blocks ?
¤¤I just came across a 77 F250 Highboy for sale motor has been
¤¤swapped to an FE block of some kind. Only distinguishing
¤¤feature is it has a factory Ford intake set up for a
¤¤Rochestor quadrajet carb. Thanks.... Danny Ling
¤¤================================================
Danny, I've never seen an FE with a stock Q-jet intake but a lot of
T-birds with 429's got them in the early 70's, I just can't remember the
exact years now. Maybe big Fords and Lincoln's too.....just can't remember.


------------------------------

From: Natp244 cs.com
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 22:57:55 EST
Subject: Re: ADMIN: Unavailable, death in the family

Ken,
As some have already expressed, our hearts go out to you and your family.
I can only speak for myself in guaranteeing you that my prayers are with you
all. I have already, and will continue, to ask God's consoling grace to be
shed on each member of your family. May he use this unfortunate circumstance
to further demonstrate His love, care, and protection of His children.
As a pastor, I have seen the devastation that a death brings to a family
that isn't trusting in the Lord for sustaining grace, and I have also seen
the power of that grace work among those families that did look to Him in
their loss. Trust in Him and He will see you through. Rom 8:28. Psalm
116:15

Blessings and prayers,
Nate 64

------------------------------

From: "Christopher Worley" hotmail.com>
Subject: What is it?
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 20:01:25 PST

I am currently rebuilding a 352 I have it all apart and was starting to prep
the block, when I removed all the grease I noticed some numbers written in
yellow above the lifters, each number was right behind a cylinder, they read
: left side "3 3 2 4" right side: "4 4 5 6" what is this.


Chris
'67 F100 352
'72 F100 390 (for sale)

______________________________________________________


------------------------------

From: SHill48337 aol.com
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 23:19:52 EST
Subject: Re: C-6 Tranny

In a message dated 2/23/00 12:30:41 PM Eastern Standard Time,
dmears USWEST.NET writes:

<< Does anybody have a rebuilt C-6 in the greater Puget Sound area? I am in
need of a C-6 real bad. Thanks.
Don >>
What engine does it have to fit up to?
Burt Hill Kennewick WA 1972 F-250 4x4 460

------------------------------

From: "Mike Pacheco" USWEST.NET>
Subject: Re: C-6 Tranny
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 20:41:24 -0800

Try Seattle Transmission in Seattle

-----Original Message-----
From: 61-79-list-bounceford-trucks.com
[mailto:61-79-list-bounceford-trucks.com]On Behalf Of
SHill48337aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2000 8:20 PM
To: 61-79-listford-trucks.com
Subject: [61-79-list] Re: C-6 Tranny


In a message dated 2/23/00 12:30:41 PM Eastern Standard Time,
dmearsUSWEST.NET writes:

<< Does anybody have a rebuilt C-6 in the greater Puget Sound area? I am in
need of a C-6 real bad. Thanks.
Don >>
What engine does it have to fit up to?
Burt Hill Kennewick WA 1972 F-250 4x4 460
==========================================================
To unsubscribe, send email to: listarford-trucks.com with
the words "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the body of the
message.



------------------------------

Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 23:24:46 -0500
Subject: Cab mounts
From: Jeff Simmons juno.com>

Hi Ford Fans,
I was just wondering what other 65' to 79' owners do to repair those darn
cab mounts.
On my 65' and 68' I just welded pieces in to the height right. Looked
bad.
On my 71' I went to the salvage yard and cut out a pair that wasn't in to
bad of shape.
I then cut what rust there was out, and welded new metal in its place.
now you have to look real close to see that there not the originals. Has
anyone else done
it this way or what other ways are there. I don't like those cheap
looking after market ones.
You never know I might have to make a career repairing cab mounts.
Jeff in KC

________________________________________________________________





------------------------------

Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 22:44:45 -0500
Subject: Re: POWER STEERING HOSE WOES
From: Jeff Simmons juno.com>

Paul, I put power steering on all my trucks 65' 68' 71' I just got the
pressure hose for any 70's truck, There is two style pumps used, The
round Ford style and the General Maintenance style (you know G.M.)

On Wed, 23 Feb 2000 10:35:04 -0600 prozelloaielectronics.com (OAI
Electronics: Paul Rozell) writes:
> HI ALL,
> I INSTALED POWER STEERING ON MY 65 F100. AND AM IN NEED OF A
> PRESSURE HOSE
> FOR MY TRUCK. HAS ANY ONE ON THE LIST INSTALLED POWER STEERING ON A
> 65????
> IF SO WHAT HOSE WILL FIT THE APPLICATION. THE PUMP IS ON A 460. ANY
> HELP
> WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED.
>
> PAUL
> 65 F100 460 C6(UNDER CONSTRUCTION)
>
> ==========================================================
> To unsubscribe, send email to: listarford-trucks.com with
> the words "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the body of the
> message.
>

________________________________________________________________





------------------------------

Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 19:23:35 -0700
From: "Kiernan, Denny" wenet.net>
Subject: Re: car prices

NUTCH11aol.com wrote:


> a 1965 mustang was around $2500 for a v-8 model

> interestingly i think is that gasoline was around .32 per gallon in 1965
> (hi-test)
> today right now hi-test is around $1.60 and that's only in the last few months
> gas has gone up (if you use today's figures) only 5 times and cars have gone
> up 10
> times ( pick-ups have gone up much more than that). we gripe about price of
> gas
> and have no problem going out to get a new car????????????
> housing is more 10 times what it was in the mid 60's. minimum wages are up 5
> times ??????????

These figures are pretty much right, I think.
In 1965, minimum wage was $1.25.
Inflation since then is about 1 to 5.22, according to the Labor Dept.
So the min. wage now should be $6.50, but it's only $5.15(?)
The 32 cent Gas should be $1.67
The $2500 Mustang shd be $13,000.

I remember paying $4 for new shirts at a fancy men's store in New York.
That would be $21 now -- but aint.
Rent on a 1 bedroom apartment in Greenwich Village was $150/month. That
shd be $780 now, but I've heard that the same apt now goes for over
$1000.

I'd be interested in knowing what the average car mechanic or car
factory worker made in '65, compared to now. I have the idea that with
all the technological advances, and the exporting of jobs overseas, the
working person is now no better off as to wages, and is paying the same
or higher for most of the basic necessities.



------------------------------

End of 61-79-list Digest V2000 #15
**********************************
----------------------------------------------------------
Ford Truck Enthusiasts 1961-1979 Truck Mailing List

Send posts to small-listford-trucks.com

If you ever want to remove yourself from this mailing
list, send an email to:

listarford-trucks.com

with the words "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the subject of
the message.

Visit Our Web Site: http://www.ford-trucks.com
----------------------------------------------------------

....


To access the rest of this feature you must be a logged in Registered User Of Ford Truck Enthusiasts

Registration is free, easy and gives you access to more features.
If you are not registered, click here to register.
If you are already registered, you can login here.

If you are already logged in and are seeing this message, your web browser is blocking session cookies. Change your browser cookie settings to allow session cookies.




Advertising - Terms of Use - Privacy Policy - Jobs

This forum is owned and operated by Internet Brands, Inc., a Delaware corporation. It is not authorized or endorsed by the Ford Motor Company and is not affiliated with the Ford Motor Company or its related companies in any way. Ford is a registered trademark of the Ford Motor Company.