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Received: with LISTAR (v0.128a; list 61-79-list); Thu, 22 Jun 2000 11:39:17 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 11:39:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Ford Truck Enthusiasts List Server To: 61-79-list digest users Reply-to: 61-79-list Subject: 61-79-list Digest V2000 #135 Precedence: bulk ========================================================== Ford Truck Enthusiasts 1961-1979 Truck Mailing List Visit our web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com To unsubscribe, send email to: listar the words "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the subject of the message. ========================================================== <><><><><><> Serious Help Finding That Part! <><><><><><> Ford Truck Enthusiasts now has "Ford Products Interchange" manuals in its online store. Two editions: 1950-1965 and 1963-1974. Cross references thousands of Ford parts. http://www.motorhaven.com/ ========================================================== ------------------------------------ 61-79-list Digest Wed, 21 Jun 2000 Volume: 2000 Issue: 135 In This Issue: Re: Year of 300 Re: Propane Re: Propane Re: A/C in '64 Re: 64 Body trim ?? AAARRRRGGGGHHHHH!!!! Re: AAARRRRGGGGHHHHH!!!! Re: AAARRRRGGGGHHHHH!!!! Re: AAARRRRGGGGHHHHH!!!! Re: crossmember needed (picture) Re: AAARRRRGGGGHHHHH!!!! Re: AAARRRRGGGGHHHHH!!!! Re: 64 Body trim ?? Re: Steering swap Re: D60 Front ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TBeeee Date: Wed Jun 21 11:12:39 2000 Subject: Re: Year of 300 Eric: There should be a date code stamped in on the front of the engine just above the waterpump area. If you can't find that you might look for the casting code of the block as a "general" guideline, but not anything conclusive. Stock Man http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://hometown.aol.com/tbeeee ------------------------------ From: "John Webster" Subject: Re: Propane Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 13:10:45 -0400 > It would rob a little but not much, the discontinued item your looking for.... I > know where there is one. > It is being measured up by 3 different shops (mine included) to be made and sold > back to the supplier through a local auto shop. ( they currently want $300 > canadian for it... silly its only worth half that) The adapter you speak of sounds perfect, but: $300.00 (I'm on the same side of the border) hurts. I picked up the IMPCO vaporizers and mixers for $500.00 (used). Then again a new tunnel ram costs $439.95 plus gaskets and is only good through 2800-9000rpm (Canadian Hi-Performance Discount - www.hi-performance.com). If you know when they are available and hopefully at a better price please let us know, or: even dimensions and a picture and I'll see if I can get one fabricated. Thanks. John. '77 F150 4X4 460/C6/4:11s/33's ------------------------------ From: JUMPINFORD Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 14:05:32 EDT Subject: Re: Propane In a message dated 6/21/00 4:20:21 AM Pacific Daylight Time, jwebster << I am curious though, the tunnel ram would still rob some of the low end even with the gases nature of the propane wouldn't it? >> I Imagine it would, but with a 460, Theres so much bottom end, I dont think Id loose enough to worry about. Now hood clearance is another matter. Anyone out there got a dual tunnel ram on a 460 in a 73-79? Am I gonna clear, or will I also be installing some sort of hood scoop? Man, Im buildin this truck to be a brute, but just imagining that thing with a dual tunnel ram, and a ram air shaker hood....... HEHEHHEHEHEHE Im all tingly inside... Darrell & Tweety ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 19:17:45 -0500 From: "Charles D. Childers, Jr." Subject: Re: A/C in '64 Jeff How did your F-100 become a crew cab? I would love some photos, if you can send any. I have a '64 F-100 SWB Custom Cab, and I like looking at what other people have done to theirs. Thanks, Charles Carver wrote: > My '64 has had A/C from the start. It's not a factory > installed unit. But then again neither is the CrewCab. > It's under the dash, brand name Park Air. > I distinctly remember the > window when I was a kid. Kinda miss the decal. > > Still works great too! > > Jeff '64 F100 CrewCab > ========================================================== > To unsubscribe, send email to: listar > the words "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the subject of the > message. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 19:24:41 -0500 From: "Charles D. Childers, Jr." Subject: Re: 64 Body trim ?? No, I haven't heard that, but I've been slacking-off here lately on my research for my restoration, because I've been way too busy at work. If I hear anything, I'll let you know. By the way, do you have any pics. you can send of your baby(truck)? I haven't taken any of mine, yet. Later, Charles WEDIVE247 > In a message dated 6/20/2000 6:05:04 PM EST, lonestarlegend > > << I'm in the same boat. I've been told that for some reason, those trim > parts for > the '64 are just about nonexistent in the aftermarket. If you hear of > anything, > let me know. > > Charles >> > > Have you heard that 64 trim is different than 65-66 ? If so , whats > the difference ? > > Steve > ========================================================== > To unsubscribe, send email to: listar > the words "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the subject of the > message. ------------------------------ From: "Ted and Sarah Freeman" Subject: AAARRRRGGGGHHHHH!!!! Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 20:49:24 -0400 Have you ever had one of those days???? I'm in the finishing stages of my FE rebuild and I installed my oil filter adapter. I looked everything over and slapped it on there. Today I started second guessing myself and decided that instead of risking oil starvation by having the gasket on wrong, I'd pull it off gently and check. Naw...it wouldn't seal that quick with no liquid to help it seal....right?? Wrong...that bad boy had sealed beautifully and the gasket was on correctly! Now I've destroyed the only gasket that doesn't come in a kit (at least that's what I'm told) and will have to buy a set of gaskets for this motor again. I guess the moral to the story is....check twice and torque once. Anybody got or know where I can get an oil filter adapter gasket?? I'm calling FelPro in the morning in hopes they will understand and sell me the one gasket. -Ted (very bummed with head hanging low) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 20:53:36 -0400 From: Ken Payne Subject: Re: AAARRRRGGGGHHHHH!!!! -snip- >Anybody got or know where I can get an oil filter adapter gasket?? > >I'm calling FelPro in the morning in hopes they will understand and sell me >the one gasket. > >-Ted (very bummed with head hanging low) That's why I keep a gasket variety pack and an exacto knife handy! Ken ------------------------------ From: "Matt Schu" Subject: Re: AAARRRRGGGGHHHHH!!!! Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 16:55:54 AKDT Ted, Been there, done that, have the t-shirt. Ford still has that gasket. Have your ford dealer order you one it's only $4 or so. If that doesn't work, just use the old one as a pattern and make a new one with some gasket material. If found that that works great too. schu > > >Have you ever had one of those days???? > >I'm in the finishing stages of my FE rebuild and I installed my oil filter >adapter. I looked everything over and slapped it on there. Today I >started >second guessing myself and decided that instead of risking oil starvation >by >having the gasket on wrong, I'd pull it off gently and check. Naw...it >wouldn't seal that quick with no liquid to help it seal....right?? >Wrong...that bad boy had sealed beautifully and the gasket was on >correctly! >Now I've destroyed the only gasket that doesn't come in a kit (at least >that's what I'm told) and will have to buy a set of gaskets for this motor >again. I guess the moral to the story is....check twice and torque once. > >Anybody got or know where I can get an oil filter adapter gasket?? > >I'm calling FelPro in the morning in hopes they will understand and sell me >the one gasket. > >-Ted (very bummed with head hanging low) > >========================================================== >To unsubscribe, send email to: listar >the words "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the subject of the >message. > ________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 21:03:47 -0400 From: Joe Subject: Re: AAARRRRGGGGHHHHH!!!! Ted, when i built my 390..I went to my local ford dealer here in pa(the parts guy is a FE nut)and he had those gaskets in stock...If you need one let me know Joe Ted and Sarah Freeman wrote: > Have you ever had one of those days???? > > I'm in the finishing stages of my FE rebuild and I installed my oil filter > adapter. I looked everything over and slapped it on there. Today I started > second guessing myself and decided that instead of risking oil starvation by > having the gasket on wrong, I'd pull it off gently and check. Naw...it > wouldn't seal that quick with no liquid to help it seal....right?? > Wrong...that bad boy had sealed beautifully and the gasket was on correctly! > Now I've destroyed the only gasket that doesn't come in a kit (at least > that's what I'm told) and will have to buy a set of gaskets for this motor > again. I guess the moral to the story is....check twice and torque once. > > Anybody got or know where I can get an oil filter adapter gasket?? > > I'm calling FelPro in the morning in hopes they will understand and sell me > the one gasket. > > -Ted (very bummed with head hanging low) > > ========================================================== > To unsubscribe, send email to: listar > the words "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the subject of the > message. ------------------------------ From: "Matt Schu" Subject: Re: crossmember needed (picture) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 17:06:49 AKDT List, Here is the picture of the crossmember: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://schu.net/crossmember.html If anyone knows where I can find one I would love to hear from you. Thanks schu ________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ From: "Jason & Kathy Kendrick" Subject: Re: AAARRRRGGGGHHHHH!!!! Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 20:20:46 -0500 Ted, send me your address, and I'll get one in the mail for you. I happen to have a spare. Jason Kendrick kendrick > Anybody got or know where I can get an oil filter adapter gasket?? > -Ted (very bummed with head hanging low) ------------------------------ From: "Ted and Sarah Freeman" Subject: Re: AAARRRRGGGGHHHHH!!!! Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 21:38:51 -0400 Jason saves the day!!! Thanks Jason! This list comes through again! -Ted (head lifted a little higher now) ;-) -----Original Message----- From: Jason & Kathy Kendrick To: 61-79-list Date: Wednesday, June 21, 2000 8:22 PM Subject: [61-79-list] Re: AAARRRRGGGGHHHHH!!!! >Ted, send me your address, and I'll get one in the mail for you. I happen to >have a spare. > >Jason Kendrick >kendrick > >> Anybody got or know where I can get an oil filter adapter gasket?? > >> -Ted (very bummed with head hanging low) > > >========================================================== >To unsubscribe, send email to: listar >the words "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the subject of the >message. > ------------------------------ From: Natp244 Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 23:50:49 EDT Subject: Re: 64 Body trim ?? In a message dated 6/20/2000 6:05:04 PM EST, lonestarlegend << I'm in the same boat. I've been told that for some reason, those trim parts for the '64 are just about nonexistent in the aftermarket. If you hear of anything, let me know. Charles >> > > Have you heard that 64 trim is different than 65-66 ? If so , whats > the difference ? > > Steve >> Yes, the trim for the 64 is different than that of the 65/66 trucks. The 65/66 trim was wider at the rear and tapered on the doors. Aside from that it just looks different. As far as I know, no one makes repro trim for the 64's. I'm sure if they did it would be a hot item. One of the problems in finding 64 trim is that it was only used as a full set for that one year- I think. The 61-63 trucks used the 57-60 style beds (except for stepside and unibody) and I don't THINK (but not sure) the 64 style trim was used on the beds. I suppose the 64 style trim may have been used on the cabs? (espec on stepside???) I really don't know that much about the 61-63, so I'm just guessing about most of this stuff. Maybe someone out there knows more about the trim used on the 61-63 trucks can enlighten us about it. Nate ------------------------------ From: "davidl" Subject: Re: Steering swap Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 00:48:34 -0500 a great site your pics are a little dark sent you a lighter one -----Original Message----- From: wish To: "61-79-list <"61-79-list Date: Wednesday, June 21, 2000 10:10 AM Subject: [61-79-list] Steering swap >I'm sure you're all used to seeing that subject line. This time its a little >different, I'm actually working on the swap and have started a page documenting >my "progress" > >I'll warn you its pretty basic right now, I've been getting setup for it for >a while now, just finally got started on it last night. Here's the URL for >those interested: > >http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/Tech/Steering/steering.html > >Oh yeah its for the old "assist" style steering on 4x4's to the newer (78/9) >"integral" style. > > >Enjoy. > > >Just my $.02 >wish > >96 Mustang GT 5spd 4.6L >73ish 1/2ton 4x4 6.4L >http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish > >Ford Truck Enthusiasts >http://www.ford-trucks.com >========================================================== >To unsubscribe, send email to: listar >the words "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the subject of the >message. -- Binary/unsupported file stripped by Listar -- -- Type: application/msword -- File: Doc1.doc ------------------------------ From: "Toby Till" Subject: Re: D60 Front Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 12:40:36 -0400 Josh, I did this on a 69' Bronco. It is almost the same as what you are trying to do. I put the d44 axle tits in a jig and turned the id of them to 3.10 to match the ID of the D60. I then mounted the arms to the loose tits and axle and put it all under the truck and set my caster. I then welded the tits and made the track bar mounts and was done with it all. It sound simple but there was a lot of work to do it all right. For steering I would sujest buying Performance Unlimited's Rod Ended DOM tubing steering set up. It is GREAT and well worth the $. I do not feel I could have sourced all of the parts and come out cheeper. You cna check out some of my stuff http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://webpages.charter.net/tt4wd/tillbuilt/buildup/suspension/suspension.ht ml Performance Unlimited's sight is: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://performanceunlimited.com/customproducts/steeringsystems.html I hope that that helps, Toby Till ----- Original Message ----- From: Nichols, Josh To: <61-79-list Cc: com>Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2000 6:25 PM Subject: [61-79-list] D60 Front > > >Hopefully tomorrow I'll have time to go pick up my D60 front. I am going to >put it under my 86 F150 that i converted to a solid D44 about a year ago. >It has been working great but I have constantly been snapping the D44 axle >shafts....Probably due to a heavy right foot and a healthy 460 but anyway. >And since I am swapping my 35's for some 38.5's It was only going to get >worse. So in goes the D60. > >Anyway... my front suspension is pretty much identical to a 79 F150, And I >thought i would ask for some advise from people who have done this before. >Anyone? > > I have taken the radius arm mounts off a D44 to weld onto the D60 axle >tube, but i am assuming the D60 has a larger diameter tube. Are they close >enough in size that I will be able to just grind or torch the inside of >theD44 mount to fit the D60 axle? > >Track bar bracket is easy, and I think my existing steering should bolt up >just find. (Hopefully I'll have enough patience to do a tie rod over while I >am at it.) > >Anything else people have run into? > >Thanks >Josh >========================================================== >To unsubscribe, send email to: listar >the words "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the subject of the >message. > ------------------------------ End of 61-79-list Digest V2000 #135 *********************************** <><><><><><> Serious Help Finding That Part! <><><><><><> Ford Truck Enthusiasts now has "Ford Products Interchange" manuals in its online store. Two editions: 1950-1965 and 1963-1974. Cross references thousands of Ford parts. http://www.motorhaven.com/ ---------------------------------------------------------- Ford Truck Enthusiasts 1961-1979 Truck Mailing List Send posts to 61-79-list If you ever want to remove yourself from this mailing list, send an email to: listar with the words "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the subject of the message. 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