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61-79-list Digest Mon, 19 Jun 2000 Volume: 2000 Issue: 133

In This Issue:
Car shows
Re: Need help finding a cross member
Re: Car shows
2 Econolines in PA yard
Re: 2 Econolines in PA yard
Re: HI GUYS!
Re: PROPANE
In need of a dipstick tube ?
Crossmember
Re: HI GUYS!
67 a/c
Re: PROPANE
Re: 67 a/c
78 Bronco lift
Re: PROPANE
Re: Y-block site?
Re: What Engine???
Re: headers for a 400?
Re: Propane
Re: 64 Body trim ??
Re: 78 Bronco lift
Re: car shows
Re: headers for a 400?
Re: PROPANE
Re: PROPANE
Re: Propane
Re: In need of a dipstick tube ?
Re: HI GUYS!
Anyone want some trim from a 66 styleside F100?
Is this true????
Re: Y-block site?
Re: 78 Bronco lift
Re: Is this true????
Re: Is this true????

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Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 10:38:50 -0400
From: "J. Doss Halsey" isl-inc.com>
Subject: Car shows

Nate,

At 11:11 PM 06/13/2000 EDT, you wrote:
>The wife and I are taking a trip around the last half of September.

If you can put it off for a week, Fall Hershey is a whole lot of fun! It is
the Antique Automobile Club of America (AACA) annual show. It is 4-7
October this year. It is huge! Two years ago I heard a radio announcer say
that if you walked all the aisles you would have walked 38 miles!

>P.S.- you know you have an understanding wife when she lets you plan your
>getaways around car shows!

Yes, you do.

Doss Halsey
'68 F250 Camper Special


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From: "Matt Schu" hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Need help finding a cross member
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 07:41:26 AKDT

Thanks for the reply Don,

I don't think it's going to work, I have had 2 people so far tell me the
cross member is different for trucks with the 205.

There is an easy way to confirm though, look at your cross member, does it
have to rubber doughnuts that are about an 1" thick between the TC and the
cross member on each side?

thanks
schu




>>List,
>>
>>I am in need of a new cross member. The one I have looks to bent up
>>to save (but I haven't tried). I looked for one in a couple of
>>wrecking yards but it seems that ford used a different cross member
>>on part time 4x4 trucks than they did on full time 4x4 trucks
>>because I have the full time TC and all of the trucks I looked at
>>(one was the same year) had a part time TC with a different cross
>>member. Can anyone confirm this? Also if it isn't to much trouble
>>can a couple of you list members call around to some local yards for
>>me and see if you can find a cross member that fits a 76 Ford F-150
>>with a c6/np203? Due to me living in Alaska I have a very limited
>>supply of old ford trucks in wrecking yards. I think I am going to
>>try to get a picture of the cross member posted soon so that it will
>>be obvious which part I need.
>>
>>thanks for any help you can send.
>
>Hmmm.... I have a transmission cross member out of a 77 F-150 with a
>four speed and 205. Does anyone think it might be the same?. I was
>going to use it but found it just as easy to make my own as needed.
>I will try to get a picture of it up on the web in a couple of days
>for comparison. Would cost a bit to ship being heavy and all so we
>should make sure it is the right one.
>
>Laters
>--
>Don Grossman

________________________________________________________________________


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From: Natp244 cs.com
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 11:42:44 EDT
Subject: Re: Car shows

In a message dated 6/19/00 9:50:13 AM Central Daylight Time,
halsey isl-inc.com writes:

<< If you can put it off for a week, Fall Hershey is a whole lot of fun! It is
the Antique Automobile Club of America (AACA) annual show. It is 4-7
October this year. It is huge! Two years ago I heard a radio announcer say
that if you walked all the aisles you would have walked 38 miles! >>

wow. where is it? Thanks!

Nate.

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Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 12:27:43 -0400
From: "Don Haring, Jr." fedora.net>
Subject: 2 Econolines in PA yard

As I mentioned in an earlier post, I took a day last week to go wander some
local u-pull-it junkyards. I found 2 Econolines in Shorty's truck yard.
This makes the 2nd and 3rd I've seen locally in the last 2 years or so. I
was really short on cash, so all I took was a decent front floor mat and
master cylinder floor cap, which they just gave to me for free. The mat has
a few tears in it, but mine was trashed. I cleaned it, taped the tears from
behind, and I'll spray it with some flexible paint to make it look fresh
(there were some rusty stains I couldn't remove). A repro mat is $100,
worth it for a restoration, but not worth it for a work truck.

Each Econoline was interesting in its own way. The first was actually one
that I had looked at when I was shopping for one. It was the only other
early van in Philadelphia to my knowledge, and now it's waiting to be
crushed. Sort of sad, really. I couldn't tell why it was there, but I gave
it a good pat on the nose.

The other van was a rare Travel Wagon, and I pulled the interior emblem to
prove it. These were third party conversions by Travel Equipment Corp in
Elkhart, Indiana. Travel Wagons were extended body vans with pop-up camper
roofs, stove, sink, and table. The floors were completely rusted through
and it was beyond saving, but it was neat to see. It had a third jump seat
on the doghouse. Does anyone know if these were factory, or was it added?
It was basically a small seat back that folded down over the top of the
doghouse.

If I have some extra cash, I might go back and pull some things off of
them. I asked how fast things were getting crushed, and the guy in the
office said, "pretty fast, especially with all the $#% we're getting from
the city." I'll try to go back within a few weeks and hopefully they'll
still be there. If anyone has requests, let me know.

-don

--
Don in Philadelphia #8142, Editor/Internet Director, Keystone Chapter FCA
66 Falcon Deluxe Club Wagon (daily driver)
61 Falcon Futura | Vespa and Lambretta scooters



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From: "Southerland, Rich" alldata.com>
Subject: Re: 2 Econolines in PA yard
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 09:34:57 -0700

My dad and I also love junkyarding. Everytime his '67 F100 pulls in the
driveway, SWMBO asks "are you two going to go play again?" Haven't been in
about a month, been getting the itch...

I love hearing these stories.
Rich
'77 E150


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From: Bad4dFillyaol.com
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 13:21:41 EDT
Subject: Re: HI GUYS!

In a message dated 6/18/00 8:09:15 AM Pacific Daylight Time, duckdonmac.com
writes:

<< doing a color change is not that easy. Think about
having purple on the outside and still green on the interior. If
you have a green dash pad or other parts that you would need to
change to match as well as paint the interior. >>

Thankfully the interior is black so its pretty versatile. I have a black dash
cover I just hope my leopard print
seats won't clash *wink*

<>

Would I have to get the windshield and everything removed if I took it
somewhere to be painted? How much does it cost to prep it before I get it
painted?

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Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 13:40:09 -0400
From: somalleyvoyager2.cns.ohiou.edu (Sean O'Malley)
Subject: Re: PROPANE

Every time a propane thread pops up, I always wonder where/how one
fuels up. This time, I'll ask instead of just wondering :).

It's not like you can just pull into any gas station,
right? So what do you do? Just use the propane vehicle for
local travel? Plan longer trip routes based on where the
LP suppliers are located, and try to only need a refill
during business hours?

--sean

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From: "Serian" flashmail.com>
Subject: In need of a dipstick tube ?
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 14:00:02 -0400

> What's the length of your dipstick from the 351M?
> I have a chunk of brake tubing with the proper sized
> fitting but I need an accurate measurement of how
> long the tube is from the end, down to the fitting at
> the oil pan so I know where to cut the brake line.
> Would you be able to measure it up for me?

I have a factory-new 351M dipstick tube and dipstick
sitting in my garage (still is shiny and has the factory
stickers on it !) for a truck-style bolts-into-the-oil-pan
setup. Got it a long time ago, but the 351M in my Bronco
is a transplant from a car, and has the type that slides
in at the timing chain area. I think the whole works
(dipstick and tube) cost me around $60 total when I
originally bought it. Make me a reasonable offer ?




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From: "Azie L. Magnusson" HiWAAY.net>
Subject: Crossmember
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 12:59:33 -0500


Schu writes: >>I am in need of a new cross member. The one I have looks to bent up to save
(but I haven't tried). I looked for one in a couple of wrecking yards but
it seems that ford used a different cross member on part time 4x4 trucks
than they did on full time 4x4 trucks because I have the full time TC and
all of the trucks I looked at (one was the same year) had a part time TC
with a different cross member. Can anyone confirm this? Also if it isn't
to much trouble can a couple of you list members call around to some local
yards for me and see if you can find a cross member that fits a 76 Ford
F-150 with a c6/np203? Due to me living in Alaska I have a very limited
supply of old ford trucks in wrecking yards. I think I am going to try to
get a picture of the cross member posted soon so that it will be obvious
which part I need.

thanks for any help you can send.<<

Yo Schu!!!! I did a conversion from NP203 to NP205 on a '76 F150 w/C6 and 360FE some 22 or so years ago and the cross members did not have to be changed.. I did however have to get the transmission extension(adaptor or whatever is the proper terminology for that piece of cast iron between the tranny and the transfercase) from the donor vehicle that had the NP205 that I was installing in my truck that originally had the NP203.. That and the driveshafts and shifter and front hubs were the only changes I had to make...

Azie Magnusson
Ardmore, Al.





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From: "wish" ford-trucks.net>
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 17:06:16 GMT
Subject: Re: HI GUYS!


>I just hope my leopard print
>seats won't clash *wink*
>

I'm left wondering what they won't clash with ... I guess leopard skin prints
just didn't really catch on in this part of the universe ...

>
>Would I have to get the windshield and everything removed if I took it
>somewhere to be painted?

Just all the trim, the windshields themselves they can mask so as not to paint
them ...

> How much does it cost to prep it before I get it
>painted?


Its usually included in the painting price, so talk with whoever you are having
do the work, they can tell you how much is going to be prep work and what you
can do to cut down on the amount of work they have to do ...

Just my $.02
wish

96 Mustang GT 5spd 4.6L
73ish 1/2ton 4x4 6.4L
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish

Ford Truck Enthusiasts
http://www.ford-trucks.com

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From: "Mike" connect.ab.ca>
Subject: 67 a/c
Date: (No, or invalid, date.)

There is a picture of an optional a/c set up in my 67 Canadian Ford/Merc brochure but they plainly
state that it's a dealer installed item. Doesn't look any bigger than the under dash unit in the 65-66
Mustangs, about a foot and a half wide, four round registers and two knobs stacked in the middle.


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From: Marvin Meyer strat.net>
Subject: Re: PROPANE
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 14:10:06 -0400

Up here in Canada there are several cities with propane refuelling
stations. It would be nice to list all service stations on the web for
access durring trips south though. If you want a glimps into the future a
little bit, the goal is LNG liquid natural gas, retain the power and torque
of a diesel and fuel miliage yet produce less pollution and noise.
Radical new injector with restrictor orfice on the 7.3diesel it will run
both Nat Gas and when you can't find a station to top up you can just put
good ol diesel in it and run. Also remove the camshaft and valve train-
Navistar now has a camless engine!
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.westport.com/
Marvin

-----Original Message-----
From: Sean O'Malley [SMTP:somalleyvoyager2.cns.ohiou.edu]
Sent: June 19, 2000 1:40 PM
To: 61-79-listford-trucks.com
Subject: [61-79-list] Re: PROPANE

Every time a propane thread pops up, I always wonder where/how one
fuels up. This time, I'll ask instead of just wondering :).

It's not like you can just pull into any gas station,
right? So what do you do? Just use the propane vehicle for
local travel? Plan longer trip routes based on where the
LP suppliers are located, and try to only need a refill
during business hours?

--sean
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From: "Southerland, Rich" alldata.com>
Subject: Re: 67 a/c
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 11:18:52 -0700

That's what we thought, but we've heard both ways...

We got the unit out of a '69 Ranger. I'm pretty sure what we got is the
"factory installed" unit as it bolts to the firewall, not under the dash.
The case includes a low-mount glove box as the original glove box is filled
up with A/C stuff! There is no nameplate anywhere on the unit.

We were hoping this style A/C was offered in '67 so we could utilize the
stock '67 controls and not cut the dash to install the later control assy..
We might be able to modify the stock cables and make them work the A/C, but
that will require some thought...

Thanks for all the responses!
Rich

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike [mailto:bigredconnect.ab.ca]
Sent: None
To: 61-79-listford-trucks.com
Subject: [61-79-list] 67 a/c


There is a picture of an optional a/c set up in my 67 Canadian Ford/Merc
brochure but they plainly
state that it's a dealer installed item. Doesn't look any bigger than the
under dash unit in the 65-66
Mustangs, about a foot and a half wide, four round registers and two knobs
stacked in the middle.

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From: "Gary Tobolski" mediaone.net>
Subject: 78 Bronco lift
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 16:07:16 -0400

I need some help from anyone with a 78 or 79 Bronco, or even an F-150. I am
in the process of rebuilding mine, and I am ready for a new suspension. I
need some people that can measure the distance from the ground to the bottom
of the rocker panel. I can go 29" and still be street legal, so for anyone
that has a truck falling into this category, it would be very much
appreciated if you could send me an email with this height along with you
lift height and tire size. Thank in advance.
Eric Tobolski


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From: "Jason & Kathy Kendrick" mddc.com>
Subject: Re: PROPANE
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 16:47:14 -0500

I helped tear down a 454(bad word-sorry!)that had been run on propane all
it's life. It was the cleanest 125,000 mile engine I'd ever seen. All the
bearing surfaces were mirror smooth. He ended up boring the cylinders .010
for the new pistons, and used standard rod and main bearings. Propane does
run clean!
Jason Kendrick

-- Original Message ----
From: G & J Boling alltel.net>

> one thing i have read about using propane or natural gas is you can go
> further on oil changes and they say engines last longer also ive never run
> or had one but it would make sense because you would not get the
> contaniments that gasoline gives when burnt
> gordon



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Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 18:38:09 -0500
From: "Charles D. Childers, Jr." pdq.net>
Subject: Re: Y-block site?

Hey, G!

Do you have any pictures of your Minneapolis Moline? I sure would like to see
it. I'm an incurable tractor nut!

Charles

glperry wrote:

> I know there is a web site for small block engines but can't remember
> what it was or where I got it. It was a link from some car site, couldn't
> find it on FTE site. It has lots of info and pix. There is a book on Y-block
> rebuild and ID from Motorbooks International. I have it and it
> is nice for part numbers and other things. Check FTE bookstore site,
> they may have it.
> "G"
> G. L. Perry
> Huntington, IN
> 54 Chevy 2-ton (driver)
> 50 Chevy COE (project)
> MM Jet Star 3 Super (tractor)
>
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Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 19:35:30 -0400
From: Brad mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: What Engine???

At 09:14 PM 06/18/2000 -0400, you wrote:
>The book I have says it it a 1969-70 351Windsor
>
>If the water outlet is on the Intake it makes this much
>more certain
>
>Bill
>
>At 09:08 PM 6/18/00 -0400, you wrote:
>>
>>Okay, now I'm getting confused. When I bought my '79 F-150 I was told it
>had a 351C but was told by many that it wasn't a C engine. I called the
>local Ford dealership and they told me to get the block numbers, which I
>did. Called them back and they were clueless from there but they gave me
>the number to a machine shop and told me that they could tell me what I had
>in my truck. I called them and they told me that in fact I had a 302 from
>'68-69 that had probably come out of a car. I thought GREAT, now I can
>accurately get parts for this. Just now out of boredom I plugged in the
>first four digits of the block numbers into a search engine and came up
>with signs that in fact this is actually a 351W. Could someone please tell
>me what is actually in my truck or direct me to a reputable place I can
>find out exactly what is in this thing?
>>
>>Here's the numbers: C90E6015 and the last letter is either a 'B' or 'E'.
>>
>>Thanks in advance for the legendary wisdom of the group,

One thing you can do is to look at the heads where they attatch to the
block... If they seem to come up relatively even with the block, it is a
windsor, but if the heads kind of V out and are somewhat larger at the top
than at the base it is a Cleveland... Also, the exh. manifolds will have
larger dia. tubes, but if you dn't have a W handy to look at, it will be
hard to tell that way...

Brad



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From: canzusseanet.com
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 17:06:24 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: headers for a 400?

At 07:33 AM 19:06:2000 -0500, Rusty Nail wrote:
>I know this was just discussed less than a month ago but, I don't recall
>ever seeing an answer. Does anybody know a manufacturer that makes headers
>for the 2wd 400 motor with dual fuel tanks? I'm also thinking of this
>changeover if I can find the headers.
>

Try Jegs, www.jegs.com

Dynomax makes headders for a wide variety of Ford
trucks and engines...don't know of an off the shelf exhaust
system for use with the aux fuel tank though...



Steve & the Rockette
68 F100, 390cid, FMX
63 F100, 292cid, 3speed
72 Capri 2000, hers
73 Capri 2600,tube frame going in.....
73 MGB GT, Our Toy
94 SHO, SWMBO's
98 Contour SVT, Mine, Mine, All Mine....


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From: "John Webster" primeline.net>
Subject: Re: Propane
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 20:10:02 -0400

I used to run a dual fuel set-up when the truck had the original 351M, it
was by "Vialle" and was not highly regarded but worked fine for me. When I
went to the 460 I went strictly gas because the Vialle could not hope to
feed it. The dual mixer intake is what I'm after as I would rather keep the
performer dual intake instead of the trade off of a tunnel ram.

As far as LNG (Natural Gas) compared to propane; the LNG tanks need to hold
2250psi because LNG boils at minus 258F therefore expensive alloys are
needed. Propane boils at minus 43.7F so 175.8psi is needed and therefore
standard steel can be used. Also LNG is usually 1030 to 1100 BTU's/cubic
feet compared to Propane at 2558 BTU's/cubic feet. When filling up by the
gallon; propane weighs 4.23lb/gallon as compared to only 2.5lb/gallon for
LNG. The BTU's/gallon are 91,044 for propane compared to 59,727 for natural
gas.

LNG has the plus of being able to fill your tank at home overnight. When
filling up your propane tank, it only can be filled to 80% to allow a vapour
space. A vent tube is cracked when filling and when a little propane burp
comes out your done. Up here in Canada if you can find a place to fill your
BBQ tank you can get your vehicle filled.

The other pluses are no carbon deposits, higher octane, dry not wet so you
don't wash down the cylinder walls and thus have less dilution in your
crankcase oil. Whenever a tear of a propane engine is made you'll be amazed
at the lack of wear and how clean it is. My old "M" looked great except for
the rod through the block, due to excessive wear and age not the propane.

Yes I love the stuff so if anyone has any leads on the dual mixer intake or
any other hints I'm open to ideas. Thanks everyone.

John
'77 F150 4X4 460/C6/4:11's/33's


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From: WEDIVE247aol.com
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 20:58:12 EDT
Subject: Re: 64 Body trim ??

In a message dated 6/6/2000 10:22:03 PM EST, Natp244cs.com writes:

<< but I gathered from your
question that you are looking for trim for your 64. www.oldfordpart.com has
NOS box trim (doesn't say if it is LWB or SWB) for $200/pr, and cowl trim
for
$100/pr. Pricey, but they are hard to find

Nate >>

Nate,
Tried oldfordpart.com for the trim but they didn't have
anything . Oh well I'll keep looking . Thanks anyhow . If anyone else out
there in computer land knows where I might find body side trim for my "64"
swb , please let me know ? Thanks


Steve 64 swb 460 ci

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Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 21:30:28 -0400
From: James Oxley thecore.com>
Subject: Re: 78 Bronco lift



Gary Tobolski wrote:
>
> I need some help from anyone with a 78 or 79 Bronco, or even an F-150. I am
> in the process of rebuilding mine, and I am ready for a new suspension. I
> need some people that can measure the distance from the ground to the bottom
> of the rocker panel. I can go 29" and still be street legal, so for anyone
> that has a truck falling into this category, it would be very much
> appreciated if you could send me an email with this height along with you
> lift height and tire size. Thank in advance.
> Eric Tobolski

Stock broncos are 20-21 inches to the bottom of the door. I have 4,
78/79 broncs and this height is correct. NJ calls it 20 for lift
requirements.

OX

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From: Natp244cs.com
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 21:40:22 EDT
Subject: Re: car shows

Thanks to all who replied. I've saved your mesages and am checking into all
of your suggestions. I appreciate all the help.

Thanks,
Nate

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From: "Bill Beyer" pacifier.com>
Subject: Re: headers for a 400?
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 23:53:47 -0700

Hedman and Hooker both make headers for that application...

"If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, riddle them with bullets"

----- Original Message -----
From: Rusty Nail mmgworldwide.com>
To: ford post <61-79-listford-trucks.com>
Sent: Monday, June 19, 2000 5:33 AM
Subject: [61-79-list] headers for a 400?


> I know this was just discussed less than a month ago but, I don't recall
> ever seeing an answer. Does anybody know a manufacturer that makes headers
> for the 2wd 400 motor with dual fuel tanks? I'm also thinking of this
> changeover if I can find the headers.




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Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 02:13:32 -0700
From: John Lord home.com>
Subject: Re: PROPANE

Yep no icky carbon wear out the old engine, and at over 105 octane, hi
compression makes you wonder if there is a loss changing over from gas, In
regards to oil, even though it doesn't get dirty it will suffer from viscosity
breakdown and should be changed almost as often as you would on gas.
I never mentioned vielli propane systems because they are a bit different they
are quite good but everything is in one box with a hose going to a venturi /
butterfly assy and i have found through experience that alot of the different
models of boxes do not have rebuild kits, and at a cost of $700 canadian to
replace it i would rather buy something i could rebuild.

Around here (Victoria, BC. Canada) i can travel anywhere on the island and get
propane, I have never had a problem anywhere in BC or Seattle. Also my filler
assy is a bit odd, it will also accept the fitting used for filling bbq tanks
for the odd occasion that i cant find a place the will do auto propane.


>


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Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 02:19:53 -0700
From: John Lord home.com>
Subject: Re: PROPANE

I just finished rebuilding a 390 propane engine for a friend, it had 150,000
miles on it and 80,000 were on propane. it was in perfect condition, the reason
the owner wanted it to be rebuild was that it had developed a wrist pin knock.
It would have lasted for years but some people are picky. ( it's suprizing how
much noise 2 thousands of an inch can make on a wrist pin).

Nice thing about the old 390's you can get 10.5 to 1 pistons as a cheap oem
replacement, and if you own a 300 I-6 you can use 50 over 390 pistons to get
higher compression for the same low cost.

Jason & Kathy Kendrick wrote:

> I helped tear down a 454(bad word-sorry!)that had been run on propane all
> it's life. It was the cleanest 125,000 mile engine I'd ever seen. All the
> bearing surfaces were mirror smooth. He ended up boring the cylinders .010
> for the new pistons, and used standard rod and main bearings. Propane does
> run clean!
> Jason Kendrick
>


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From: "John Webster" primeline.net>
Subject: Re: Propane
Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 06:59:00 -0400

Here in Ontario I've never had any problems filling up. Now that it costs
half of hi-test its looking sooooo much better. I found a huge tank for the
bed in great shape that the Lund fairing will hide mostly. Getting a rebuilt
vaporizer and mixer(s) is easy but this adapter for the manifold is driving
me crazy!!! Again I'd love to here any tips or pointers from anyone out
there who would care to contribute. Thanks.

John
'77 F150 4X4 460/C6/4:11's/33's


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Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 07:47:42 -0400
From: David Wadson air.on.ca>
Subject: Re: In need of a dipstick tube ?

>I have a factory-new 351M dipstick tube and dipstick
>sitting in my garage (still is shiny and has the factory
>stickers on it !) for a truck-style bolts-into-the-oil-pan
>setup. Got it a long time ago, but the 351M in my Bronco
>is a transplant from a car, and has the type that slides
>in at the timing chain area. I think the whole works
>(dipstick and tube) cost me around $60 total when I
>originally bought it. Make me a reasonable offer ?

Unfortunately, given the US -> Canadian exchange rate, the probable cost of
shipping it up here, a reasonable offer that comes below my new cost of $59
CDN is probably awfully low in US dollars.

I did get out there last night and install my brakeline/dipstick - worked
fairly well though I'm going to have to put some sort of sealer on the
fitting. It looks like the rear main seal that I replaced is working well -
no oil dripping yet - but the dipstick tube leaks a bit where it goes into
the oil pan. I spent about 15 minutes swearing at the tube as I tried to
get just the right angle with it so that it would screw into the pan. I was
a little nervous when the cloud of blue smoke appeared when I started it up
but was relieved to see it was only from the oil and crud that had
previously dripped down onto the y-pipe. Glad to see that that horrible
task of changing the seal appears to have been successful. After doing
that, every other job seems so simple...like a leaking power steering
gearbox.

Correct me if I'm wrong folks, but the 79 Ford shop manual only shows two
power steering gearboxes - the Ford type and the Saginaw type (which it
says was only used in the E-100 to E-350 vans). Am I correct in my quick
observation that the power steering gearbox in an F-150 4WD is the same
gearbox as say an F-100 2WD but located further forward on the frame? I'm
going to do a closer visual comparison later today after work but perhaps
there may also be less obvious differences that you guys know about?


David Wadson - wadsondair.on.ca
"PS1" - 79 F100 ...ground into a million pieces.
"PS2" - 78 F100 ...currently alive and kicking.
"PS3" - 79 F150 4x4 ...now what have I gotten myself into...
Thunder Bay, Ontario, Canada



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Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 07:52:12 -0500
Subject: Re: HI GUYS!
From: John LaGrone ford-trucks.com>

on 6/18/2000 10:07 AM, Don Grossman at duckdonmac.com wrote:

> doing a color change is not that easy. Think about
> having purple on the outside and still green on the interior.

Yuck.

> P.S. how do you type the symbol for cents anyway? Shift? Command?
> Option? What's the key strokes

Option-4 on the Mac. Probably some kind of convoluted left mouse click
followed by a right mouse release or something on Windows. :-) (Probably
Option-4, too.)

-- John
jlagroneford-trucks.com <]:-) <]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)
1979 F150 Custom LWB Regular Cab 351M C6 (Henry)
http://www.ford-trucks.com/jlagrone/henry.home.htm
Dearborn iron rules!!!!


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From: "Garrett Nelson" writeme.com>
Subject: Anyone want some trim from a 66 styleside F100?
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 22:45:09 -0500


I will be painting my truck soon, and am going to remove all the trim along the side of the truck. It is all in very good shape, but I am missing one small piece that goes between the hood and the door on the drivers side. Also, what is the best way to remove this stuff without damaging it?

If anyone is interested, let me know. Make an offer, you pay for shipping (I am in MN). There are a few pictures of my truck on my website.


---Garrett www.1966ford.com


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Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 00:49:43 -0400
From: Tony Marino raex.com>
Subject: Is this true????

As usual on my nightly ritual of shopping on ebay, I ran across something
that caught my attention that I have NEVER seen before, and I would like
your guy's take or a definitive answer on it---

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=359927377

Is this what I think it is? A shortbed 73-79 truck bed with a toolbox in
the side??

I was unaware they made them in shortbeds!!

Tony Marino
redneckraex.com


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From: "Jason & Kathy Kendrick" mddc.com>
Subject: Re: Y-block site?
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 17:20:56 -0500

Here's a url for a Y-block website, if it's what you're looking for.
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://members.aol.com/yblock/yblock.htm
Jason Kendrick


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From: "Bob" home.com>
Subject: Re: 78 Bronco lift
Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 00:15:16 -0400

NJ calls for 20? I see trucks from NJ that are lifted much higher than the
lowest part being 20 inches off the ground... are they not legal? Do you
happen to know the PA limit? I believe the PA requirement is 30, but I
could be wrong.

-bob-

-----Original Message-----
From: 61-79-list-bounceford-trucks.com
[mailto:61-79-list-bounceford-trucks.com]On Behalf Of James Oxley
Sent: Monday, June 19, 2000 9:30 PM
To: 61-79-listford-trucks.com
Subject: [61-79-list] Re: 78 Bronco lift




Gary Tobolski wrote:
>
> I need some help from anyone with a 78 or 79 Bronco, or even an F-150. I
am
> in the process of rebuilding mine, and I am ready for a new suspension. I
> need some people that can measure the distance from the ground to the
bottom
> of the rocker panel. I can go 29" and still be street legal, so for
anyone
> that has a truck falling into this category, it would be very much
> appreciated if you could send me an email with this height along with you
> lift height and tire size. Thank in advance.
> Eric Tobolski

Stock broncos are 20-21 inches to the bottom of the door. I have 4,
78/79 broncs and this height is correct. NJ calls it 20 for lift
requirements.

OX
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From: "Southerland, Rich" alldata.com>
Subject: Re: Is this true????
Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 07:26:09 -0700

I don't know, but I need a cheap utility trailer really bad and it's in my
neck of the woods. I just placed a bid on it. We'll see...

-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Marino [mailto:redneckraex.com]
Sent: Monday, June 19, 2000 9:50 PM
To: 61-79-listford-trucks.com
Subject: [61-79-list] Is this true????


As usual on my nightly ritual of shopping on ebay, I ran across something
that caught my attention that I have NEVER seen before, and I would like
your guy's take or a definitive answer on it---

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=359927377

Is this what I think it is? A shortbed 73-79 truck bed with a toolbox in
the side??

I was unaware they made them in shortbeds!!

Tony Marino
redneckraex.com

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From: "wish" ford-trucks.net>
Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 13:52:55 GMT
Subject: Re: Is this true????


>http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=359927377
>
>Is this what I think it is? A shortbed 73-79 truck bed with a toolbox in

>the side??
>

Uhm Tony ... inside dimensions are 65"x99" according to the guy ... 65" is 5'5",
99" is 8'3" ... so I'm guessing its a full size bed ... just looks funny ...


Just my $.02
wish

96 Mustang GT 5spd 4.6L
73ish 1/2ton 4x4 6.4L
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