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61-79-list Digest Fri, 16 Jun 2000 Volume: 2000 Issue: 130

In This Issue:
Re: : 351W or 400?
Re: '67 F series with A/C?
Re: 351W vs 460
Tranny question again
Re: '69 Wiring Diagrams
trucks for sale
Re: Tranny question again
Re: HI GUYS!
Re: 351W vs 460
Kroil
Re: 351M FMX
Re: Engine Problems
Re: Engine Problems
Re: 351W or 400?
Re: '67 F series with A/C?
Re: HI GUYS!
Re: HI GUYS!
Re: trucks for sale
What's the website for LMC?
Re: Kroil
Re: What's the website for LMC?
Re: '67 F series with A/C?
Re: Kroil
Re: What's the website for LMC?
Re: Kroil
68 F100 project
Re: Stroker 351's ? and inner fender paint
Re: '67 F series with A/C?
Re: trucks for sale
Re: HI GUYS!
Re: 68 F100 project
Re: HI GUYS!
292 y block info needed for fathers day
New Lister Hello
possible to install an ac, power steering & brakes?
Re: 292 y block info needed for fathers day

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From: "Serian" flashmail.com>
Subject: Re: : 351W or 400?
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 19:48:33 -0400

> Doesn't the 400 share the same valve covers, intake,
> ect as the 351W?

nope ... the 400 shares parts with the 351M

> If I used my old valve covers (with the 351 emission
> sticker) could a person tell the difference just by eyeball?

The 351M and 400 are identical in appearance ... the only
difference between them is the crankshaft and pistons
The 351W and 400 have almost no interchangeable parts.



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From: TBeeee aol.com
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 19:53:48 EDT
Subject: Re: '67 F series with A/C?

67 did have an AC option. I believe that the controls were under the dash on
the unit. I'm sure you will here from others on this too.

Stock Man
1967 F-250 4wd Mini Fire Truck
1967 F-250 FE 390 4wd
1966 F-250 I6 240 2wd LWB Flare Side
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.hometown.aol.com/tbeeee

> Anyone know if the '67 F-series could be had with factory A/C?
> If so, does it use the push-pull cables to control it like the non-A/C
> trucks do?

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From: "G & J Boling" alltel.net>
Subject: Re: 351W vs 460
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 20:05:19 -0700




>
> Hi Matt ,
>
> Where is this article ? I'd like to take a look ....
> a 393W short block with my 4v Clev heads would romp ... not as well
> as my 460 , though :-)
>
> dave Prasse
======================================
DONT bet on it not running better you would need ALLOT of money to come
close to catching that 393 stroker with any 460
gordon

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From: BOgborn webtv.net (Bryan Ogborn)
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 20:02:44 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Tranny question again

Hi all,
Want to thank everyone who answered my post about the 4 speed OD on my
'77.
However, I come to you with my hat in hand. Goofy me asked about the
wrong tranny. You can lash me with a limp noodle later.
I meant to ask about a later model 5 speed. Will it bolt to the
bellhousing on my '77 F-150 w/ 351M and 3 on the tree? If so, are there
many or any mods involved such as crossmembers, driveshaft, bellhousing,
etc. i know the floor will have to be cut and rearranged. Thats a
given. I need to do something because of gas prices. You know how that
goes right?
Anyway, thanks in advance for your help.
Bryan in Kentucky
'77 F-150 351M with a 3 on the tree. Life don't get mch better than
this.


http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://community.webtv.net/BOgborn/TheOgbornFamilyof


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From: "Tim Neasham" 3-cities.com>
Subject: Re: '69 Wiring Diagrams
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 17:02:13 -0700


I just bought a complete set for all Ford makes for '69 but they are still
in the "factory" binder. Let me know if you still can't find the site and
I'll see what I can do.


Tim Neasham
Benton City, Washington
'69 F-250 Camper Special


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From: "G & J Boling" alltel.net>
Subject: trucks for sale
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 20:11:04 -0700



on the south side of Powhatten Ohio on rt#7 there is i think to be about a
65 f100 or 150 for sale it really looks nice even has a chrome grill on it
and a good 2 tone white and blue paint job
i dont know how much the lot wants for it tho was just passing thru
gordon

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From: "Southerland, Rich" alldata.com>
Subject: Re: Tranny question again
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 17:19:22 -0700

Repeating what I heard when I asked this same question elsewhere:

Let's do some math. Assume fuel is $1.65/gallon, you get 12 mpg with your 3
speed and you travel 12,000 miles per year. So you presently use 1,000
gal/yr for a fuel cost of $1650.

You can adjust the numbers to fit your truck.

Let's assume by adding the 5 speed, you gain 20% in mileage. Probably high,
but let's go with it. You now get 14.4 mpg. To go those 12,000 miles, you
buy 833 gallons/yr for a fuel cost of $1375 (rounded) a savings of $275.

How much is this swap going to cost, $500 at least? It would be nearly 2
years before you saved dime one (cost of swap versus fuel savings).

I'm not saying not to do the swap, just that doing it just to "save money"
isn't a realistic reason...

(Asbestos undies are in place, let the flaming begin...)
Rich

-----Original Message-----
From: BOgborn webtv.net [mailto:BOgborn webtv.net]
Sent: Friday, June 16, 2000 5:03 PM
To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: [61-79-list] Tranny question again


Hi all,
Want to thank everyone who answered my post about the 4 speed OD on my
'77.
However, I come to you with my hat in hand. Goofy me asked about the
wrong tranny. You can lash me with a limp noodle later.
I meant to ask about a later model 5 speed. Will it bolt to the
bellhousing on my '77 F-150 w/ 351M and 3 on the tree? If so, are there
many or any mods involved such as crossmembers, driveshaft, bellhousing,
etc. i know the floor will have to be cut and rearranged. Thats a
given. I need to do something because of gas prices. You know how that
goes right?
Anyway, thanks in advance for your help.
Bryan in Kentucky
'77 F-150 351M with a 3 on the tree. Life don't get mch better than
this.


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From: JUMPINFORD aol.com
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 20:41:00 EDT
Subject: Re: HI GUYS!

But how will she be green with Envy if its Purple? And whats this talk about
selling it? Are you takin hits off the gas pump? C'mon Lisa, a good ford is
something to be passed down, not traded in.....

Darrell and Tweety

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From: "Matt Schu" hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: 351W vs 460
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 18:37:54 AKDT

Hello Dave,

The article is in the Feb Street and Strip. It is basically a summit racing
catalog with a couple of extra pages of reading.

The article was about stoked ford engines. They had a 347, a 393, and a 520
which hit 752 HP with 660 ft/lbs of torque.

All I need is some time, money, and a 64' Falcon to drop it into :)
All the brand-Xers would be eating my dust, if I could get it to hook up.

schu

Hi Matt ,
>
>Where is this article ? I'd like to take a look ....
>a 393W short block with my 4v Clev heads would romp ... not as well
>as my 460 , though :-)
>
>dave Prasse

________________________________________________________________________


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From: "NP 540" hotmail.com>
Subject: Kroil
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 19:40:32 PDT

There was a discussion here a while ago about "Kroil" penetrating
oil. www.kanolabs.com I tried to E-mail them last week, but so
far, no reply. Also tried their 1-800 phone number, but got a
"no such number" (or whatever) reply from an automatic machine.
Looks like they are no longer in business. :(
Anybody here can confirm this? I'd sure like to get some Kroil for
my trucks!!

Many thanks!
Gerry
In Canada
VIVE LE FORD!



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From: "NP 540" hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: 351M FMX
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 19:45:30 PDT

There was some discussions here a few days ago about FMX behind
351M and 400 engines. In my reply to that, I stated that I saw
MANY of those behind 351M in T-Birds, Montegos, Cougars, LTD, ect...
I forgot to add, I am from Canada, and so were those cars....
Might be different in the states.

Gerry
In Canada
VIVE LE FORD!!




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From: "PitStop Performance" hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Engine Problems
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 22:44:47 CDT

>There is possibility that your exhaust system may be severely >restricted
>and back pressure causes your starter to lug down and >causes your engine
>to spin backwards when you kill the spark. Had >this very thing happen to
>a MGB that I rebuild over a 2 year period.

Thanks, I will check that. Never even thought of that. Not much of the
exhaust left anyway. I will just cut it all off.
________________________________________________________________________


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From: GMontgo930 aol.com
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 23:45:51 EDT
Subject: Re: Engine Problems

One possibility that wasnt mentioned is teh timing chain. I once cooked a 302
(wonderfull lil ol engine) with 60 miles in the nevada desert w/o any water
cause of a blown radiater. While my plug boots survived as did the rest of
teh engine initially, after a while, the timing gear started to disintegrrate
and loose the plastic (nylon whatever) teeth. Mine went way out of time when
it went. Maybe yours just went out a bit, maybe not.

Ive ocasionally seen an engine kick backwards, but never often or very much
either.

just a thought.

George
In Fl where there's plent of water (most of the time)


In a message dated 6/15/2000 5:58:36 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
thepitstop hotmail.com writes:

<<
Obvious things I have checked:

-Timing seems OK. Any more retarded and engine runs poor.
-Firing order is right.
-All battery and ground connections are tight.

Help me narrow this down before I dismantle the entire thing.
>>

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From: GMontgo930 aol.com
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 23:53:51 EDT
Subject: Re: 351W or 400?

The 400 your thinking about is teh M block, common with the 351M and not the
351W. It's got a different tranny bolt pattern than your W and would mean a
replacement tranny also if you did this swap. In a van Im not sure about wht
else you'd need (My 92 E150 doesnt have much room so Id suspect you'd be
similar). Elsewhere in the list I recently read about stroking the W up to
about 392 or so CI. That might be a better option for you. Torque is what
your wanting for that trailer pulling. CI helps and there's no sub for it,
but torque gets you where your going!

CA smog - ouch - been out there, the inlaws can have it! (No offense intended)

George - Down in the swamps of Fl.

n a message dated 6/15/2000 6:31:59 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
rsouther alldata.com writes:

<< '77 Ford E150. Got it for free about a year ago (it had sat for 4 yrs).
Van has 130K on chassis, 50K on trans and about 35K on engine. I replaced
the timing chain recently with a steel set (yes, the rebuilt engine had a
NYLON cam gear in it, but mind you, it was rebuilt nearly 15 years ago-I
have the receipts!) and the 351 is running fine.

I rented a car trailer to pick up a N*ssan truck. With the truck and
trailer attached to the van (somewhere around 3500 pounds) it really dogged
out on the hills. We want to purchase a small travel trailer for camping.
I suspect a small (around 20') travel trailer will weigh in the ball park of
3500 pounds as well.

We really like this van and have no intentions of getting rid of it, but the
stock 351 may not be up to the task of pulling the trailer. A 460 swap is
out of the question. I know Ford had a 400 in passenger cars of that era.
Would the extra 50 cubes help? I have to deal with CA smog tests for a
couple more years, so a 4 barrel carb or headers is a no-no too.

Doesn't the 400 share the same valve covers, intake, ect as the 351W? If I
used my old valve covers (with the 351 emission sticker) could a person tell
the difference just by eyeball?

Or is the 400 just a POS?
>>

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From: "Christopher Worley" hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: '67 F series with A/C?
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 21:34:33 PDT


I am not totaly sure that my '67 is factory, but the a/c controls are on a
unit that is mounted below the dash.

Chris
'67 F100


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From: "Tim and Pam Allgire" williams-net.com>
Subject: Re: HI GUYS!
Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 00:53:38 -0400

Is there a vocational school or college near by you that has a auto body
class ? I have taken some of my vehicles to a vocational school near here &
they use your vehicle as part of their training in auto body class. Usually
all you have to pay for is the materials. Just an idea. I had them repaint a
' 79 Cougar for me (no rust or collision work--just a repaint) and it only
cost me $ 249.00 .I was really suprised that it turned out real good.
-----Original Message-----
From: Bad4dFillyaol.com aol.com>
To: 61-79-listford-trucks.com <61-79-listford-trucks.com>;
offroad-listford-trucks.com ford-trucks.com>
Date: Friday, June 16, 2000 12:43 PM
Subject: [61-79-list] HI GUYS!


>Did y'all miss me! I got a new PC and the addresses for the FTE list played
a
>vanishing act for a lil bit, but I'm still here. Envy is running great, she
>finally got a bath after about 3 months! LOL Anyways, I was thinking about
>gettin her repainted in the next few months if I can afford it. 2
questions:
>Where are some places that'll do it for REALLY cheap
>and but I TOTALLY wanna get it painted purple >I'll be a single chick lol> Will that make it harder to sell when I do
decide
>to sell it? Cuz if so maybe I'll have to go with a more normal color? Any
>advice? Thanks y'all! =)
>
>*~*~Lisa and Envy~*~*
>*~*~Silly boys....trucks are for GIRLS!~*~*
>==========================================================
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From: "Tim and Pam Allgire" williams-net.com>
Subject: Re: HI GUYS!
Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 00:56:34 -0400

AMEN ! AMEN ! AMEN !!
-----Original Message-----
From: JUMPINFORDaol.com aol.com>
To: 61-79-listford-trucks.com <61-79-listford-trucks.com>
Date: Friday, June 16, 2000 8:42 PM
Subject: [61-79-list] Re: HI GUYS!


>But how will she be green with Envy if its Purple? And whats this talk
about
>selling it? Are you takin hits off the gas pump? C'mon Lisa, a good ford
is
>something to be passed down, not traded in.....
>
>Darrell and Tweety
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>message.
>


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From: "Tim and Pam Allgire" williams-net.com>
Subject: Re: trucks for sale
Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 01:01:44 -0400

I saw a '65 ( I think )all I saw was a rear view with a for sale sign. It
was near Angola,Ind. Light tan in color & didn't seem to look to bad from
the road( 30 yrds.) Long bed.
-----Original Message-----
From: G & J Boling alltel.net>
To: 61-79-listford-trucks.com <61-79-listford-trucks.com>
Date: Friday, June 16, 2000 8:08 PM
Subject: [61-79-list] trucks for sale


>
>
>on the south side of Powhatten Ohio on rt#7 there is i think to be about a
>65 f100 or 150 for sale it really looks nice even has a chrome grill on it
>and a good 2 tone white and blue paint job
>i dont know how much the lot wants for it tho was just passing thru
>gordon
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From: "Garrett Nelson" writeme.com>
Subject: What's the website for LMC?
Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 00:14:36 -0500


It's probably been posted here before but I can't find it.

Thanks

--Garrett www.1966ford.com


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From: "Bill Beyer" pacifier.com>
Subject: Re: Kroil
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 22:26:10 -0700

I called this # 800-311-3374 and got their voicemail...maybe it can't be
dialed from Canada...eh...;-)

"If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, riddle them with bullets"

----- Original Message -----
From: NP 540 hotmail.com>
To: <61-79-listford-trucks.com>
Sent: Friday, June 16, 2000 7:40 PM
Subject: [61-79-list] Kroil


> There was a discussion here a while ago about "Kroil" penetrating
> oil. www.kanolabs.com I tried to E-mail them last week, but so
> far, no reply. Also tried their 1-800 phone number, but got a
> "no such number" (or whatever) reply from an automatic machine.
> Looks like they are no longer in business. :(
> Anybody here can confirm this? I'd sure like to get some Kroil for
> my trucks!!




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From: Natp244cs.com
Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 01:20:33 EDT
Subject: Re: What's the website for LMC?

www.lmctruck.com

Nate

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From: "Michael White" csolutions.net>
Subject: Re: '67 F series with A/C?
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 23:27:10 -0600

> I am not totaly sure that my '67 is factory, but the a/c controls are on a
> unit that is mounted below the dash.
>
> Chris
> '67 F100
~~~~~~~~~~

It sounds like you are describing dealer installed A/C. My 69 F250 has
factory installed A/C the controls are combined with the heater controls.
The original glove box is not available for use, but there is another small
compartment in the housing that mounts below the dashboard.

Michael



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From: Natp244cs.com
Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 01:26:07 EDT
Subject: Re: Kroil

In a message dated 6/16/00 9:41:56 PM Central Daylight Time,
np540hotmail.com writes:

<< There was a discussion here a while ago about "Kroil" penetrating
oil. www.kanolabs.com I tried to E-mail them last week, but so
far, no reply. Also tried their 1-800 phone number, but got a
"no such number" (or whatever) reply from an automatic machine.
Looks like they are no longer in business. :(
Anybody here can confirm this? I'd sure like to get some Kroil for
my trucks!!

Many thanks!
Gerry
In Canada
VIVE LE FORD! >>


I have www.kanolabs.com open in another window right now- Might want to
double check what you typed in??? It works fine for me, but if you still
can't reach it, the number they list is 800-311-3374. Good luck.. hope it
works for you.

Nate

------------------------------

From: "Garrett Nelson" writeme.com>
Subject: Re: What's the website for LMC?
Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 00:31:24 -0500


Thanks!

--Garrett www.1966ford.com




----- Original Message -----
From: Natp244cs.com
To: 61-79-listford-trucks.com
Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2000 12:20 AM
Subject: [61-79-list] Re: What's the website for LMC?


www.lmctruck.com

Nate
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From: "G & J Boling" alltel.net>
Subject: Re: Kroil
Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 02:50:17 -0700

their still in business far as i know i just got some papers from them a
week or so ago on a special their having
gordon

----------
> From: Natp244cs.com
> To: 61-79-listford-trucks.com
> Subject: [61-79-list] Re: Kroil
> Date: Friday, June 16, 2000 10:26 PM
>
> In a message dated 6/16/00 9:41:56 PM Central Daylight Time,
> np540hotmail.com writes:
>
> << There was a discussion here a while ago about "Kroil" penetrating
> oil. www.kanolabs.com I tried to E-mail them last week, but so
> far, no reply. Also tried their 1-800 phone number, but got a
> "no such number" (or whatever) reply from an automatic machine.
> Looks like they are no longer in business. :(
> Anybody here can confirm this? I'd sure like to get some Kroil for
> my trucks!!
>
> Many thanks!
> Gerry
> In Canada
> VIVE LE FORD! >>
>
>
> I have www.kanolabs.com open in another window right now- Might want to
> double check what you typed in??? It works fine for me, but if you still

> can't reach it, the number they list is 800-311-3374. Good luck.. hope
it
> works for you.
>
> Nate
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From: "Stephen Brown" centurytel.net>
Subject: 68 F100 project
Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 03:05:16 -0700


Hey Everyone,
I just Brought home a new project the other day, its a 68' F100 with a strait 6 & a C-4 trans(engine & trans out of a Fairmont, year unknown) The guy wanted $650.00
but I got it for 500.-- Its got a strait body, but that's all it seems to have going for it .It looked very unloved sitting in the guys front yard, so I got my friends car dollie and towed her home (Hey Honey, look what followed me home, can I keep it !?! ;-)
The engine and trans have got to go, and the wiring is a disaster, I'm sure I'll have plenty of questions to post about this one .
As a matter of fact, I do have a question re: the bed -
The bed has terminal cancer, I went to the local salvage yard, and they had a couple of 71' F250 beds in pretty good shape for $200.--(price includes tailgate).
Is there any differences between the 68 & 71 beds (other than side marker lights)? And does $200. sound like an O.K. price ?


Stephen Brown,
1968 F-100 (project)
1971 F-250 "CUSTOM"



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From: "Hogan, Tom" kla-tencor.com>
Subject: Re: Stroker 351's ? and inner fender paint
Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 05:36:41 -0700


i
> will say he can
> pull more up the local mountains (i blame some of it on my
> cam). but im able to
> do over 120 mph an have no fear of taking my rpm up to 6000
> and that for me is
> good when i over rev the engine when i suddenly loose
> traction in 4 low. My
> friend has a well build engine but has screwed his valve
> train more than once
> over revving in the muck.

Why dosen't he install a rev limiter? If he's replaced more than 1
valvetrain without it he could have paid for it already.

Tom H.

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Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 07:32:00 -0700 (PDT)
From: "D. DiMartino" yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: '67 F series with A/C?

My 68 manual that shows the controls mounted under the dash on
an added unit that housed the vents and a switch that gave
either heat or a/c. the normal fan switchs on dash are used.


--- TBeeeeaol.com wrote:
> 67 did have an AC option. I believe that the controls were
> under the dash on
> the unit. I'm sure you will here from others on this too.


=====
Daniel DiMartino
yahoo.com>
1968 F-250 soon to be a 4x4

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From: GMontgo930aol.com
Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 11:40:02 EDT
Subject: Re: trucks for sale

I've seen a 79 Bronco the last few mornings onthe way to work. On the corner
here in Bithlo Fl. Looks fairly good from teh road, and is rollin on what
looks like 33's. Askin $2500 on the window. Im assuming it runs and that's
how it got there. Anyone interested in the save a Bronco campain?

George in Fl.


In a message dated 6/17/2000 12:55:13 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
tim-pamwilliams-net.com writes:

<< saw a '65 ( I think )all I saw was a rear view with a for sale sign. It
was near Angola,Ind. Light tan in color & didn't seem to look to bad from
the road( 30 yrds.) Long bed. >>

------------------------------

From: Bad4dFillyaol.com
Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 13:21:05 EDT
Subject: Re: HI GUYS!

In a message dated 6/16/00 5:42:23 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
JUMPINFORDaol.com writes:

<< But how will she be green with Envy if its Purple? And whats this talk
about
selling it? Are you takin hits off the gas pump? C'mon Lisa, a good ford is
something to be passed down, not traded in..... >>

LOL Well, uh, she can still be Envy! And I don't plan on selling her until
something big happens that makes her undriveable. Knowing Fords, I'm sure
she'll still be with me on my horse ranch in Montana way in the future! LOL

*~*~Lisa and Envy~*~*
*~*~Silly boys...trucks are for GIRLS!~*~*

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From: "Ted and Sarah Freeman" ford-trucks.com>
Subject: Re: 68 F100 project
Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 13:47:03 -0400

Congrats on your find!

A '71 should bolt right in. I don't think $200 is bad, but again, it
depends on the condition.

-Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: Stephen Brown centurytel.net>
To: 61-79-listford-trucks.com <61-79-listford-trucks.com>
Date: Saturday, June 17, 2000 5:00 AM
Subject: [61-79-list] 68 F100 project


>
>Hey Everyone,
>I just Brought home a new project the other day, its a 68' F100 with a
strait 6 & a C-4 trans(engine & trans out of a Fairmont, year unknown) The
guy wanted $650.00
>but I got it for 500.-- Its got a strait body, but that's all it seems to
have going for it .It looked very unloved sitting in the guys front yard, so
I got my friends car dollie and towed her home (Hey Honey, look what
followed me home, can I keep it !?! ;-)
>The engine and trans have got to go, and the wiring is a disaster, I'm sure
I'll have plenty of questions to post about this one .
>As a matter of fact, I do have a question re: the bed -
> The bed has terminal cancer, I went to the local salvage yard, and they
had a couple of 71' F250 beds in pretty good shape for $200.--(price
includes tailgate).
>Is there any differences between the 68 & 71 beds (other than side marker
lights)? And does $200. sound like an O.K. price ?
>
>
>Stephen Brown,
>1968 F-100 (project)
>1971 F-250 "CUSTOM"
>
>
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From: JUMPINFORDaol.com
Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 15:43:48 EDT
Subject: Re: HI GUYS!

In a message dated 6/17/00 10:22:36 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
Bad4dFillyaol.com writes:

<< And I don't plan on selling her until
something big happens that makes her undriveable >>

Then I have to ask, would purple paint mean much to the new buyer if the
truck looks like Godzilla stepped on it? Which by the way is the only way a
ford would ever become completely undrivable.....

Darrell & Tweety

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From: "davidl" tbcnet.com>
Subject: 292 y block info needed for fathers day
Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 16:30:32 -0500


OK I got the old girl running. 1962 f100 unibody.
But have no books.
I need for fathers day the firing order and the valve lash
The cap is marker 1 but of course some one has move the wires
I have a back fire and found two wires that were the problem last night. But
after dropping a push rod from an adjuster backing off. Now I have a back
fire again. And I would like to make sure all else is right.

And while you have your book of knowledge open the points gap dwell and
timing.
Thanks in advance this list is the best for help.
Ps. any one have an answer on how to keep the starter in a 1970 f100 390
motor with headers from burning up starters I have a friend that has a bad
time of this. Any one make a heat shield or have any luck with this.
Dave
62 unibody in the making 292
61 donor unibody 302
77 e350 motor home 460
78 f250 4x4 429
83 f250 4x4 weak 302
85 f250 4x4 6.9





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From: DESMODROMEaol.com
Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 18:06:46 EDT
Subject: New Lister Hello

Just want to say hello to everyone.
My name is Mike and I recently purchased a very nice '77 F100, styleside,
short bed. This truck is a plane jane--power nothing, no a/c, manual trans,
300-6. I even had to buy a radio for it. Doesn't sound too desirable? You
couldn't be more wrong! It's a beauty! NO rust, NO dents, good paint
(although not original), engine rebuilt at 100,000 (19,000 miles ago),
rebuilt tranny, new clutch, runs like a champ--and I LOVE IT! I just drove it
on a 500 mile round trip last weekend and it didn't miss a beat. Oil is still
at the full mark. This truck needs very little to be just peachy! I'm hoping
I can make it to a show or two this summer to show it off and compare with
some others--and meet some of you. This is the first Ford of any kind that I
have ever owned (sorry!) so I will be gathering lots of information from you
all.

Mike B.

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From: Rizard209aol.com
Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 19:01:00 EDT
Subject: possible to install an ac, power steering & brakes?

i have a '70 f100 and i was wondering if there was n e way possible to add an
air condition unit perhaps, and do they have a kit to make it power brakes
and even power steering..n e ideas would b appreciated..

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Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 19:26:48 -0400
From: bill poudrier ma.ultranet.com>
Subject: Re: 292 y block info needed for fathers day

Firing Order: 1,5,4,8,6,3,7,2

All valves 0.019 Hot

Points 0.015

Sorry, don't have the dwell

Bill



At 04:30 PM 6/17/00 -0500, you wrote:
>
>OK I got the old girl running. 1962 f100 unibody.
>But have no books.
>I need for fathers day the firing order and the valve lash
>The cap is marker 1 but of course some one has move the wires
>I have a back fire and found two wires that were the problem last night. But
>after dropping a push rod from an adjuster backing off. Now I have a back
>fire again. And I would like to make sure all else is right.
>
>And while you have your book of knowledge open the points gap dwell and
>timing.
>Thanks in advance this list is the best for help.
>Ps. any one have an answer on how to keep the starter in a 1970 f100 390
>motor with headers from burning up starters I have a friend that has a bad
>time of this. Any one make a heat shield or have any luck with this.
> Dave
>62 unibody in the making 292
>61 donor unibody 302
>77 e350 motor home 460
>78 f250 4x4 429
>83 f250 4x4 weak 302
>85 f250 4x4 6.9
>
>
>
>
>==========================================================
>To unsubscribe, send email to: listarford-trucks.com with
>the words "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the subject of the
>message.
>
>


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