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61-79-list Digest Tue, 13 Jun 2000 Volume: 2000 Issue: 127

In This Issue:
Re: Car shows?????
Re: 1979 F150 2WD Exhaust System
Re: Truck web site.
Re: What is Fender Welt and will I need to buy some?
Re: Truck web site.
Re: What is Fender Welt and will I need to buy some?
Re: Car shows?????
Re: What is Fender Welt and will I need to buy some?
Re: 78 f250 front axle what is it?
Re: steering gear box/powerstroke diesels
F250 4x4 '78 lefthand drive Powersteering unit wanted
seat belts
Re: 1979 F150 2WD Exhaust System
'70 Cab damage
460 conversion fix up
Dana 60 help
65-6 body on 73-9 frame
Re: Where will it end....
FE swap
Re: Where will it end....
Re: 65-6 body on 73-9 frame
ADMIN: Web site updates
What's a Cruise-0-Matic & Misplaced 64 trim ?
Re: Truck web site.

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From: EffieFrd aol.com
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 23:30:05 EDT
Subject: Re: Car shows?????


Run To The Rock. Chimney Rock/Lake Lure, North Carolina. Put on by the
Non-Profit Truckers. Its all ford trucks, kinda small, laid back, just a
good show. Its usually the second or third weekend of September. Feel free
to email me off list and I'll get you the name and address if you want more
details.

~Mel
1965 F100
1989 Bronco
G.R.I.T.S ~ Girls Raised In The SOUTH!

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From: "Tim and Pam Allgire" williams-net.com>
Subject: Re: 1979 F150 2WD Exhaust System
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 23:52:47 -0400

when I replaced the muffler & tailpipe on my ' 78 I ended it just before the
rear axle,because Auto Zone wanted $120.00 just for the rear section of
tailpipe that went over the axle.I think our state law requires that the
exhaust must exit somewhere behind the passenger seating area.
-----Original Message-----
From: wish ford-trucks.net>
To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com <61-79-list ford-trucks.com>
Date: Tuesday, June 13, 2000 5:53 PM
Subject: [61-79-list] Re: 1979 F150 2WD Exhaust System


>
>
>>PLEASE Also tell me why the exhaust is in front of my 79 150 rear wheel
>>instead of behine ????
>>
>>
>
>Pr'y where the previous owner decided to end it ... its much easier than
messing
>with the whole over the axle thing ... the 96-98? pickups came from the
factory
>this way, just an exit immediately in front of the rear wheels. My truck
also
>came with turn downs immediately in front of the axle because that was all
the
>law required when the truck was rebuilt.
>
>My favorite was a Bl*z*r who decided to not bend the pipes just run them
straight
>out the back and let the axle bend them for him ... I think I saw the truck
>later with some pretty good crimps, and one of them missing completely.
>
>Just my $.02
>wish
>
>96 Mustang GT 5spd 4.6L
>73ish 1/2ton 4x4 6.4L
>http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish
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From: "Tim and Pam Allgire" williams-net.com>
Subject: Re: Truck web site.
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 00:04:42 -0400

Nice fire truck !!! Our fire department currently uses a ' 78 3/4 ton 4x4
for the brush fires.It is that light yellowish color with a nice flame job
painted on the front.Looks cool.

-----Original Message-----
From: TBeeee aol.com aol.com>
To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com <61-79-list ford-trucks.com>
Date: Tuesday, June 13, 2000 8:11 PM
Subject: [61-79-list] Truck web site.


>Speaking of truck sites....I'd sure would appreciate a test drive and some
>feedback. If there is anybody on the list that likes fire trucks be sure to
>click on the My Trucks link and take a peek at my new toy. TIA
>
>Stock Man
>1967 F-250 4wd Mini Fire Truck
>1967 F-250 FE 390 4wd
>1966 F-250 I6 240 2wd LWB Flare Side
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From: "Tim and Pam Allgire" williams-net.com>
Subject: Re: What is Fender Welt and will I need to buy some?
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 00:06:30 -0400

usually used on step sides for the rear fenders.Also used on earlier trucks
for the front fenders .
-----Original Message-----
From: Garrett Nelson writeme.com>
To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com <61-79-list ford-trucks.com>
Date: Tuesday, June 13, 2000 8:30 PM
Subject: [61-79-list] What is Fender Welt and will I need to buy some?


>
>I'm repainting my 66 F100 and I saw this stuff while looking through the
Dennis Carpenter catalog. Will I need it?
>
>Thanks
>
>---Garrett www.1966ford.com
>
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From: Natp244 cs.com
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 23:59:50 EDT
Subject: Re: Truck web site.

In a message dated 6/13/00 10:58:27 PM Central Daylight Time,
tim-pam williams-net.com writes:

<< It is that light yellowish color with a nice flame job
painted on the front.Looks cool. >>

Hmmm... a firetruck with flames on it. That's irony in its purest form.
Don't think I've ever seen that before.

Nate

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From: "Garrett Nelson" writeme.com>
Subject: Re: What is Fender Welt and will I need to buy some?
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 23:04:53 -0500


But what is it? A picture is worth 1,000 words, and the one in the catalog didn't tell me much. How and where does it attach to the fender?

---Garrett www.1966ford.com



----- Original Message -----
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To: 61-79-listford-trucks.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2000 11:06 PM
Subject: [61-79-list] Re: What is Fender Welt and will I need to buy some?


usually used on step sides for the rear fenders.Also used on earlier trucks
for the front fenders .
-----Original Message-----
From: Garrett Nelson writeme.com>
To: 61-79-listford-trucks.com <61-79-listford-trucks.com>
Date: Tuesday, June 13, 2000 8:30 PM
Subject: [61-79-list] What is Fender Welt and will I need to buy some?


>
>I'm repainting my 66 F100 and I saw this stuff while looking through the
Dennis Carpenter catalog. Will I need it?
>
>Thanks
>
>---Garrett www.1966ford.com
>
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From: "Tim and Pam Allgire" williams-net.com>
Subject: Re: Car shows?????
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 00:27:11 -0400

There is one in Pigeon Forge,Tenn. on Sept. 15--17th. It is called the Fall
grand Run.AWESOME show !!! The show itself is supposed to be located at
the Grand Resort Hotel,but it lines the main drag from one end to the
other.It is open to all yrs.,makes & models of cars.My wife & I attended the
Spring Grand Run in April & we live in N.W. Ohio. It is an 8 hr. drive for
us & it was worth it !! We always plan our vacations around a car show
somewhere.
-----Original Message-----
From: Natp244cs.com cs.com>
To: 61-79-listford-trucks.com <61-79-listford-trucks.com>
Date: Tuesday, June 13, 2000 11:09 PM
Subject: [61-79-list] Car shows?????


>The wife and I are taking a trip around the last half of September. We
>haven't decided which direction we are going yet. That largely depends on
>whether or not I can find a car show going on during that time. Anyone
know
>of any during sept. in the central or south U.S.? Or know of anywhere I
can
>find a listing of upcoming shows? I'd prefer to find an all-ford show, but
>I'm not picky. I won't be taking a vehic for the show- just want to
attend.
>Any help appreciated.
>
>Thanks,
>Nate
>
>P.S.- you know you have an understanding wife when she lets you plan your
>getaways around car shows!
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Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 21:51:56 -0700
From: Don Grossman mac.com>
Subject: Re: What is Fender Welt and will I need to buy some?

>But what is it? A picture is worth 1,000 words, and the one in the
>catalog didn't tell me much. How and where does it attach to the
>fender?
>
>---Garrett www.1966ford.com

Sorry I don't have picture of it but think of it acting as sort of a
gasket between the outer fender and the inner bed side on the pickup
bed. Comes is a roll depending on the specific application. Some
come with a chrome bead for that show look.

laters
--
Don Grossman
duckdonmac.com

43 GPW
63 F-100 4x4
77 F250
99 Contour

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From: SHill48337aol.com
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 01:03:56 EDT
Subject: Re: 78 f250 front axle what is it?

In a message dated 6/12/00 7:32:46 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
davidltbcnet.com writes:

<< Go to the parts store tell the you want to see the ujiont for a 44 and a 60
then you will tell by looking at the joint.
4.10 or 4.11 not heard of 4.09 take the cover off and check the # on the
ring gear or count the teeth on ring and pinion and divide
just my thought
not my final answer >>

A 4.09 ratio is the one I have on the Dana 44 on my front.
Burt Hill Kennewick WA 1972 F-250 4x4 460

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From: "G & J Boling" alltel.net>
Subject: Re: steering gear box/powerstroke diesels
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 02:46:04 -0700


Is buying a used
> diesel a big
> gamble? I am in the market for a late 80's/early 90's crewcab, but have
been
> warn'd away from any high milage one due to repair costs. (Ford shop says
> most owners don't take good care of them). I know diesel parts,
maintence,
> etc, is more. Thanks, Bob
>
> ========================================
the shop is right most folks dont know how to care for them and the ones
ford makes are actually called throw away engines seeing as how it costs
more to rebuild them than to replace them
gordon


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From: "warrick" yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: F250 4x4 '78 lefthand drive Powersteering unit wanted
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 12:33:07 +0200


I have a 1978 lefthand drive Ford F250 4x4. Which im trying
to find a power steering unit to fit. I live in south africa and parts
and accessories are very scarce. Please could anyone help with
ideas.

Thanks.
Warrick


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From: "Redden" enter.net>
Subject: seat belts
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 09:17:26 -0400

some links:

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.andoauto.com/seat_belts.htm

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.julianos.com/seat_belts.html

mike



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Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 08:25:59 -0600
From: "Richard Currit" state.wy.us>
Subject: Re: 1979 F150 2WD Exhaust System

>PLEASE Also tell me why the exhaust is in front of my 79 150 rear
wheel
>instead of behine ????

Helps keep them from getting mucked up. Back when I worked for the
Forest Circus all the trucks that were used on fire had to be this way.
Backing up in the mountains, two track roads, steep cliffs, nasty brush
piles etc., your exhaust pipes don't get near as mangled being in front
of the rear tire.
High Plains Richard
'72 F-100



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Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 07:51:08 -0700 (PDT)
From: Michael Kaczmar excite.com>
Subject: '70 Cab damage


I just bought a 70 F-100 that had some bed and cab damage. It was smacked on
the right side by a minivan and by the looks of it, the front tire took the
majority of the load, but the front cab post took some damage as well.
Additionally the lower rear corner is tweaked, as is the area around the
side molding.

I put an ad up for cab parts, and have had some luck locating them (thanks
to you if you read this digest)but I am wondering of the front cab post can
be worked straight-ish.

The rocker is fine, no damage, I think the fact that the it was a minivan
that hit the truck higher up than a car was a good thing. about 4-6 inches
above the rocker, the post is pushed in about 1-1.5 inches. The door post is
not kinked, just bent.

Has anybody had a similar experience, with this type of damage? If so, did
you replace the cab corner or was able to be straightened by a body
shop/tree with a come-a-long? I have decent body working experience, so
cutting and welding in new panels is not a problem, I just wonder if that is
a bit extreme, where a simple straightening will do the job.

The rest of the cab is in great condition, and this damage does not look to
be all that bad, so I would like to see if I can fix this.

Any input is appreciated.

Michael Kaczmar
53 70 and 72 F-100's... one of these one of em will be in good runnin'
shape...





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From: "Toby Till" charter.net>
Subject: 460 conversion fix up
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 14:10:52 -0400


I am in the process of straiting some of the problems with my 75' F250 highboy. It has a 460 in it now but origionaly came with a 360. The guy who put the motor in used 351M mounts and adapted them some how to make it all fit in the truck. When trying to pull the trans I found that the motor is sitting to high in the truck because the bell housing was hitting the cab and there was not enough room to get the input shaft out of the pressure plate. The frame horns are origional. I need to knnow what the nex step is. I have contacted L&L but the person answering the phone was of little help. I need someone who knows what they are talking about and has done this conversion of putting a 460 in a highboy. If you have done this please let me know so I can get some measurements. The truck has PS,and A/C and uses a L&L PS bracket and L&L fender well exit headers. It has a staggered four core radiator that the core measures 24.5" X 26.5". the problem here is the shroud that is on it does not cover the top 4" and the bottom 2" of core. I want to fix this because I can not let the truck sit and idle with the A/C on in this Atlanta heat. If you have a shroud that will fit my rad. let me know what you want for it.

Thanks,

Toby Till


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From: "Johnson, Douglas" nhlem.med.navy.mil>
Subject: Dana 60 help
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 11:28:05 -0700

I have an offer and a plea all in one. My 64 F100 has a factory Dana 60
rear, limited slip, set up for the old 240 I6. The 240 was replaced by the
PO with a sickly 360 FE (soon a healthy 390), but the 4:56 gear set in the
Dana is killing me. I want to go to a 3:73 set (to support the future 33"
tires...), but I need to switch carriers to go to another ratio. Anyone have
any ideas around this, or another carrier I could swap for? I hate to lose
the limited slip (still working), but I also hate to frag a new motor on the
trip back East in September. Thanks in advance!

HM2(SW) D.W. Johnson
Med Repair
559-998-4280

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Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 14:48:11 -0400 (EDT)
From: Brett Habben juno.com>
Subject: 65-6 body on 73-9 frame

Folks,
A while back there was a discussion about mixing and matching different
sheetmetal and chassis.
Has anybody put a '65-66 body on '73-79 frame (2 wheel drive only)? In '73
the wheelbase was lengthened and the rear axle was widened. I remember
someone saying that the cab lined right up. But what about the box? I'm
talking about using a long/wide bed.
Thanks,
Brett
Super75cab


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From: Brazzadogaol.com
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 19:28:47 EDT
Subject: Re: Where will it end....

> From: "Dave Resch" sybase.com>
> Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 10:43:30 -0600
>
> >From: David Wadson air.on.ca>
> >
> > we bent and broke the dipstick tube in order
> >to get the pan out. I got the kick in the teeth
> >a few days later when I went to the Ford
> >dealer and found out that tube was worth $59.
>
> Yo Dave:
>
> You should look for another dealer. Even w/ the relatively weak value of
> the
> Canadian Peso, you're still getting the shaft. In Denver, I can get the M-
> block
> rear sump dipstick tube for about $19US. The part number is E1TZ-6754-C.

I paid $35 for one here in eastern WA about 2 years ago.

Ben Williams
'71 Wagoneer
'78 F-250 4x4
'88 Bronco

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From: JXS bridgetest.com>
Subject: FE swap
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 16:47:37 -0700

Hey Wish Man,

I never heard of this until recently, but some of the industrial and marine FE's supposedly ran in the reverse direction of the car/truck engines....don't ask me to explain any further because I don't know much more other than cranks that come out of these motors have the little grooves where the rear main seal runs going the opposite way. I guess this means that if one of these cranks is used in a standard FE application, it "pumps" the oil past the seal....

Anyone else heard of this????

Colorado Jeff (CJ)


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From: "G & J Boling" alltel.net>
Subject: Re: Where will it end....
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 20:19:36 -0700

try SUMITT RACING and see if they have a dip stick for your truck they seem
to have most anything else for the engines i have seen them in their
catalog i know FOR SURE
Gordon

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> From: Brazzadogaol.com
> To: 61-79-listford-trucks.com
> Subject: [61-79-list] Re: Where will it end....
> Date: Wednesday, June 14, 2000 4:28 PM
>
> > From: "Dave Resch" sybase.com>
> > Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 10:43:30 -0600
> >
> > >From: David Wadson air.on.ca>
> > >
> > > we bent and broke the dipstick tube in order
> > >to get the pan out. I got the kick in the teeth
> > >a few days later when I went to the Ford
> > >dealer and found out that tube was worth $59.
> >
> > Yo Dave:
> >
> > You should look for another dealer. Even w/ the relatively weak value
of
> > the
> > Canadian Peso, you're still getting the shaft. In Denver, I can get
the M-
> > block
> > rear sump dipstick tube for about $19US. The part number is
E1TZ-6754-C.
>
> I paid $35 for one here in eastern WA about 2 years ago.
>
> Ben Williams
> '71 Wagoneer
> '78 F-250 4x4
> '88 Bronco
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Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 18:01:15 -0700
From: Don Grossman mac.com>
Subject: Re: 65-6 body on 73-9 frame

>Folks,
>
>Has anybody put a '65-66 body on '73-79 frame (2 wheel drive only)? In '73
>the wheelbase was lengthened and the rear axle was widened. But
>what about the box?
>Thanks,
>Brett
>

With the 73-79 frame and a 65-66 bed you are going to need to make
new holes in the bed or make new mounts.
--
Don Grossman
duckdonmac.com

43 GPW
63 F-100 4x4
77 F250
99 Contour

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Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 20:44:15 -0400
From: Ken Payne ford-trucks.com>
Subject: ADMIN: Web site updates

Ford Truck Enthusiasts web site updates:
http://www.ford-trucks.com

June 14:
Pictorial additions: 1955 F100, 1969 F250 4x4 Crew Cab, 1970 F250 Sport Custom 4x4, 1978 F150 4x4, 1999 Ranger

June 11:
Pictorial additions: 1966 F100, 1977 F250 Highboy, 1978 F150 Custom, 1988 F250

Later,
Ken Payne
Admin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts


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From: "Desanto, Phillip" Cinergy.com>
Subject: What's a Cruise-0-Matic & Misplaced 64 trim ?
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 22:12:07 -0400

From: John Strauss inetport.com>
Subject: Cruise-0-Matics

The first Ford automatic transmission was the Ford-O-Matic and it was a
3-speed. Later, the Ford-O-Matic became the Cruise-O-Matic and the
Ford-O-Matic name was shifted (no pun intended) to a 2-speed (late fifties
I think). <<<<<>>>>>
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++=
Hey John, thanx for the excellent explanation. That should put the
"Cruise-0-Matic" questions to rest for a while.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Also, I was re-reading my post on 64 F-series trim and saw that I said the
64 trim mounted lower then the 65-66. Sorry, I said that backwards and
realized it as soon as I walked in my garage that day....oops. Hope ya
didn't drill those holes yet ? :-)














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From: "Tim and Pam Allgire" williams-net.com>
Subject: Re: Truck web site.
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 23:38:15 -0400

If I had apicture I would send it to you.
-----Original Message-----
From: Natp244cs.com cs.com>
To: 61-79-listford-trucks.com <61-79-listford-trucks.com>
Date: Tuesday, June 13, 2000 11:58 PM
Subject: [61-79-list] Re: Truck web site.


>In a message dated 6/13/00 10:58:27 PM Central Daylight Time,
>tim-pamwilliams-net.com writes:
>
><< It is that light yellowish color with a nice flame job
> painted on the front.Looks cool. >>
>
>Hmmm... a firetruck with flames on it. That's irony in its purest form.
>Don't think I've ever seen that before.
>
>Nate
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