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61-79-list Digest Tue, 13 Jun 2000 Volume: 2000 Issue: 126

In This Issue:
Looking For New '79 F-250 Seatbelts
Re: 78 f250 front axle what is it?
Re: 351 Cleveland in a 69 Cougar
Re: 351 Cleveland in a 69 Cougar
Re: Looking For New '79 F-250 Seatbelts
Re: I think I am about to tackle the paint/body work on m
Re: Looking For New '79 F-250 Seatbelts
Re: Where will it end....
Re: I think I am about to tackle the paint/body work on m
Re: Where will it end....
351M FMX
Re: Wild Pinto's & Merc FE Valvecovers
Re: Wild Pinto's & Merc FE Valvecovers
Re: Wild Pinto's & Merc FE Valvecovers
Re: 351 Cleveland in a 69 Cougar
Re: 1979 F150 2WD Exhaust System
Re: 1979 F150 2WD Exhaust System
Re: 1979 F150 2WD Exhaust System
Re: 351 Cleveland in a 69 Cougar
Re: Looking For New '79 F-250 Seatbelts
Re: 1979 F150 2WD Exhaust System
Re: Looking For New '79 F-250 Seatbelts
Carter 625 AFB rebuild pointers needed
Re: 351 Cleveland in a 69 Cougar
Re: Carter 625 AFB rebuild pointers needed
Re: stepside steps
Truck web site.
What is Fender Welt and will I need to buy some?
Re: ATF in Manuals
Re: Transfering R12 between vehicles?
Re: GM
Re: Transfering R12 between vehicles?
Re: Wild Pinto's & Merc FE Valvecovers
steering gear box/powerstroke diesels
Car shows?????

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Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 02:52:14 -0400
From: "Sean R. Kerns" choice.net>
Subject: Looking For New '79 F-250 Seatbelts

Hi all,

The seat belts on my '79 F-250 4x4 have started to "return to
nature". They were faded when I got the truck, but now they've
actually started to fray and unravel. I question their
effectiveness in an accident at this point.
Problem is, I can't find new ones. All the Ford parts sources
I know of just sell the generic lap belts, not the factory
shoulder belts I'm looking for.
I might be able to find some in a junkyard, but black is hard
to find, and they're likely to have the same problem as the
belts I already have.

Any idea where I can find these, or what I could use as an
original-looking substitute?

Thanks,

Sean


--
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e-mail: music bloodspoint.com
Bloodspoint Studio - Home of Stalking Horse
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.bloodspoint.com
"You're in a band... That's like a business class ticket to
cool, with complimentary mojo after takeoff..."



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From: FORDTRKNUT aol.com
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 06:51:35 EDT
Subject: Re: 78 f250 front axle what is it?

If the steering arm has 3 bolts attaching it to the steering knuckle, its a
Dana 44. If the steering arm has 4 bolts attaching it the steering knuckle,
its a Dana 60. The housing(s) also have a cast "60 or 44" in the web of the
center housing. If you have any more questions....let me know!!! Wayne
Grabley

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From: "wish" ford-trucks.net>
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 13:30:40 GMT
Subject: Re: 351 Cleveland in a 69 Cougar



>I don't know about the Cleveland being an option in the 69 Cougars, but I
>use to own a 69 Cougar with the 351 Windsor. It also had the smoothest 3
>speed behind it you could ever imagine.

The Cleveland wasn't an "option" in 69, at least not in the sense that you selected
it. As someone mentioned the 4V is an M-code, if it is a 2-V from the factory
it will be an H-code (5th digit in the VIN). If it is an H code there is no
doubt it was a W from the factory. However if it is an M code and is late in
the production run, then it is possible it did receive a Cleveland. The factory
never admitted to it or anything, but I've seen way too many late 69's with
Clevelands for them to all be swapped out...

That "smooth 3spd" you refer to certainly does apply to this truck list and
conversation, if you look at the door tag and it has an X under the trans. code,
then you've got the FMX automatic tranny in it from the factory.

A 69 Cougar was my first car, and now Dad's got one that's very similar, if
you've got any questions in particular about them, lemme know, if I can't find
the answer I can probably point you in the right direction.

Just my $.02
wish

96 Mustang GT 5spd 4.6L
73ish 1/2ton 4x4 6.4L
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From: "Tim and Pam Allgire" williams-net.com>
Subject: Re: 351 Cleveland in a 69 Cougar
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 11:26:25 -0400

I've seen a ' 70 Cougar with a 351 Cleveland in it.
-----Original Message-----
From: Neal De Pape yahoo.com>
To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com <61-79-list ford-trucks.com>
Date: Monday, June 12, 2000 3:21 PM
Subject: [61-79-list] 351 Cleveland in a 69 Cougar


>I'll apologize for the off topic post right away. My
>lame excuse is that this list is the only group that I
>know of that might be able to answer these questions.
>
>Now to the question, I am looking at purchasing a 1969
>Mercury Cougar XR7 convertible. I am told that it has
>a 351 Cleveland in it. Was the Cleveland an option in
>1969 for Cougars? I thought only the Windsor was
>available. Also, what transmission might be used
>behind this engine? The current owner only knows its
>a Ford automatic.
>
>FTE content: If I buy it, I'll go pick it up in my
>1968 Mercury pickup.
>
>TIA,
>
>Neal DePape
>1968 Mercury M(?)-100, 300-6
>
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From: "Michael White" csolutions.net>
Subject: Re: Looking For New '79 F-250 Seatbelts
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 09:24:10 -0600


Try your local upholstery shop. They should be able to use your old
seatbelt hardware combined with new seat belt material to create a new
assembly.

Michael
~~~~~~~~~~~~

> Hi all,
>
> The seat belts on my '79 F-250 4x4 have started to "return to
> nature". They were faded when I got the truck, but now they've
> actually started to fray and unravel. I question their
> effectiveness in an accident at this point.
> Problem is, I can't find new ones. All the Ford parts sources
> I know of just sell the generic lap belts, not the factory
> shoulder belts I'm looking for.
> I might be able to find some in a junkyard, but black is hard
> to find, and they're likely to have the same problem as the
> belts I already have.
>
> Any idea where I can find these, or what I could use as an
> original-looking substitute?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Sean



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From: "Tim and Pam Allgire" williams-net.com>
Subject: Re: I think I am about to tackle the paint/body work on m
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 11:50:06 -0400

If the yellow truck in the picture is the truck you are referring to doing
the resto on,it looks like you have a very good starting point to work from.
-----Original Message-----
From: Garrett Nelson writeme.com>
To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com <61-79-list ford-trucks.com>
Date: Monday, June 12, 2000 10:41 PM
Subject: [61-79-list] I think I am about to tackle the paint/body work on my
66 F100


>
>The truck- www.1966ford.com
>
>I have a friend that has a spray booth out at his farm and between the two
of us and his uncle we are going to gut the truck, do a little welding and
repair, and paint it a nice dark shade of blue. I am going to cover the
interior with sound deadening while I am at it, and replace all the
weather-stripping and misc. small parts like that. I just got my Dennis
Carpenter catalog today, and found lots of stuff that should help me out.
>
>I have a little bit of experience with body work but have never done a
project this big before. Is there anything I should look out for? Anyone
have some good advice? And how much can I expect to spend on this project? I
got a few quotes at body shops in town ranging from $2,000 up to $10 grand.
>
>Tell me I am doing the right thing, this will be using up most of my
paychecks for quite a while now.
>
>---Garrett
>
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From: "Tim and Pam Allgire" williams-net.com>
Subject: Re: Looking For New '79 F-250 Seatbelts
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 11:58:39 -0400

Did you check in the Dennis Carpenter or the LMC Catalogs ? They have just
about everything you need for a restoration.
-----Original Message-----
From: Sean R. Kerns choice.net>
To: Ford 61-79 List <61-79-list ford-trucks.com>
Date: Tuesday, June 13, 2000 2:55 AM
Subject: [61-79-list] Looking For New '79 F-250 Seatbelts


>Hi all,
>
>The seat belts on my '79 F-250 4x4 have started to "return to
>nature". They were faded when I got the truck, but now they've
>actually started to fray and unravel. I question their
>effectiveness in an accident at this point.
>Problem is, I can't find new ones. All the Ford parts sources
>I know of just sell the generic lap belts, not the factory
>shoulder belts I'm looking for.
>I might be able to find some in a junkyard, but black is hard
>to find, and they're likely to have the same problem as the
>belts I already have.
>
>Any idea where I can find these, or what I could use as an
>original-looking substitute?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Sean
>
>
>--
>Sean R. Kerns (aka Snake)
>e-mail: music bloodspoint.com
>Bloodspoint Studio - Home of Stalking Horse
>http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.bloodspoint.com
>"You're in a band... That's like a business class ticket to
>cool, with complimentary mojo after takeoff..."
>
>
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From: "Dave Resch" sybase.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 10:43:30 -0600
Subject: Re: Where will it end....

>From: David Wadson air.on.ca>
>
> we bent and broke the dipstick tube in order
>to get the pan out. I got the kick in the teeth
>a few days later when I went to the Ford
>dealer and found out that tube was worth $59.

Yo Dave:

You should look for another dealer. Even w/ the relatively weak value of the
Canadian Peso, you're still getting the shaft. In Denver, I can get the M-block
rear sump dipstick tube for about $19US. The part number is E1TZ-6754-C.

Good luck.

Dave R (M-block devotee)



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From: "Garrett Nelson" writeme.com>
Subject: Re: I think I am about to tackle the paint/body work on m
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 11:48:07 -0500


Yeah that's the one!

--Garrett



----- Original Message -----
From: Tim and Pam Allgire
To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2000 10:50 AM
Subject: [61-79-list] Re: I think I am about to tackle the paint/body work on my 66 F100


If the yellow truck in the picture is the truck you are referring to doing
the resto on,it looks like you have a very good starting point to work from.
-----Original Message-----
From: Garrett Nelson writeme.com>
To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com <61-79-list ford-trucks.com>
Date: Monday, June 12, 2000 10:41 PM
Subject: [61-79-list] I think I am about to tackle the paint/body work on my
66 F100


>
>The truck- www.1966ford.com
>
>I have a friend that has a spray booth out at his farm and between the two
of us and his uncle we are going to gut the truck, do a little welding and
repair, and paint it a nice dark shade of blue. I am going to cover the
interior with sound deadening while I am at it, and replace all the
weather-stripping and misc. small parts like that. I just got my Dennis
Carpenter catalog today, and found lots of stuff that should help me out.
>
>I have a little bit of experience with body work but have never done a
project this big before. Is there anything I should look out for? Anyone
have some good advice? And how much can I expect to spend on this project? I
got a few quotes at body shops in town ranging from $2,000 up to $10 grand.
>
>Tell me I am doing the right thing, this will be using up most of my
paychecks for quite a while now.
>
>---Garrett
>
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From: "Southerland, Rich" alldata.com>
Subject: Re: Where will it end....
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 09:52:42 -0700

Don't know if it would work in this case, but I once had the same thing
happen on a Toy*ta I was changing the engine on. broke the dipstick tube a
7pm on a Saturday. Took the pieces to the parts store and found that if I
cut one end off of a 3/8" brake line, removed the line nuts, I had a
workable dipstick tube! The end I didn't cut (still had the flare on it)
fit the dipstick perfectly! Cut it to length and put a little bend in it to
match the old one and we were done. Been on there 2 years so far. Cost $2.

-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Resch [mailto:Dave.Resch sybase.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2000 9:44 AM
To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: [61-79-list] Re: Where will it end....


>From: David Wadson air.on.ca>
>
> we bent and broke the dipstick tube in order
>to get the pan out. I got the kick in the teeth
>a few days later when I went to the Ford
>dealer and found out that tube was worth $59.

Yo Dave:

You should look for another dealer. Even w/ the relatively weak value of
the
Canadian Peso, you're still getting the shaft. In Denver, I can get the
M-block
rear sump dipstick tube for about $19US. The part number is E1TZ-6754-C.

Good luck.

Dave R (M-block devotee)


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From: "Dave Resch" sybase.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 10:52:39 -0600
Subject: 351M FMX

>From: "NP 540" hotmail.com>
>Subject: 351M FMX
>
>Yep, indeed there was a FMX behind those
>351M: I have one behind the 351M in my
>(almost dead) 1976 LTD. I am also sure that
>they were also behind 351M into 77-79
>Thunderbirds and Cougars.

Yo Gerry:

You learn something every day, especially on the FTE list!

I guess I haven't looked that closely at '70s car M-blocks in the junkyards.
The few I've looked closely at had C6s behind them... at least I thought they
did. :-?

Now it seems even more odd that Ford made the one-year only D3AE M-blocks w/
small-block bell housing bolt pattern, since apparently FMXs were available w/
the big-block bell housing. I wonder if the big-block FMX bell housing came out
after 1973 and maybe Ford decided that changing the bell housing was easier than
having two different M-block engine block designs?

Tranny history can be just as interesting as engine history, and maybe even more
convoluted.

Dave R (M-block devotee)



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Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 10:33:16 -0700 (PDT)
From: "J. Allison" yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Wild Pinto's & Merc FE Valvecovers

Well shiver me timbers and blow me down! Those
Pinto's were a crack up!!! Bet some of them were
blazingly fast though. Go about 2/3 of the way down
the main page for the FE "Mercury" valvecovers. Bill,
are you sure those are FE covers? There's something
funny looking about them... Could be my imagination.
Peace, J. Allison

> From: "Bill Beyer" pacifier.com>
> Subject: Mercury FE valve covers...

> I seem to recall some dim memory of someone on the
> list looking for Mercury FE valve covers. This guy
> has some for sale:
>
> http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.bob2000.com/pinto2.htm
>
> Scroll down a little over halfway down the page...


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From: "Bill Beyer" pacifier.com>
Subject: Re: Wild Pinto's & Merc FE Valvecovers
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 10:48:34 -0700

Absolutely not sure at all...like I said I just have some dim memory of
someone looking for Merc valve covers...I think it was Muel that told
me...but either way I'm just going on what that guy says they are.

"If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, riddle them with bullets"

----- Original Message -----
From: J. Allison yahoo.com>
To: <61-79-list ford-trucks.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2000 10:33 AM
Subject: [61-79-list] Re: Wild Pinto's & Merc FE Valvecovers


> Well shiver me timbers and blow me down! Those
> Pinto's were a crack up!!! Bet some of them were
> blazingly fast though. Go about 2/3 of the way down
> the main page for the FE "Mercury" valvecovers. Bill,
> are you sure those are FE covers? There's something
> funny looking about them... Could be my imagination.




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Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 13:12:16 -0500
From: Stu Varner ford-trucks.com>
Subject: Re: Wild Pinto's & Merc FE Valvecovers

At 10:33 AM 6/13/00 -0700, you wrote:
> Well shiver me timbers and blow me down! Those
>Pinto's were a crack up!!! Bet some of them were
>blazingly fast though. Go about 2/3 of the way down
>the main page for the FE "Mercury" valvecovers. Bill,
>are you sure those are FE covers? There's something
>funny looking about them... Could be my imagination.
> Peace, J. Allison
>
>> From: "Bill Beyer" pacifier.com>
>> Subject: Mercury FE valve covers...
>
>> I seem to recall some dim memory of someone on the
>> list looking for Mercury FE valve covers. This guy
>> has some for sale:
>>
>> http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.bob2000.com/pinto2.htm
>>
>> Scroll down a little over halfway down the page...
>

They are FE valve covers for late 50's and early 60's FE's
before they changed the intake style which had the oil fill neck
in the front of the intake manifold.

The only other FE valve covers I have ever seen for FE's
are the pent roof style like the 427's had in R code versions
or other hi-po applications etc. There may be other versions
I have not seen for FE's. Anyone??

The FE covers I own have the word Mercury written in script letters instead
of block letters
(like in the picture mentioned above) and have two lightning bolts below
the word Mercury.
They also have holes for PCV access and oil fill/breather cap.

If you want to see a picture of the other variety let me know off list and
I will send a jpg
of what I have.

As far as the Pinto's go, I agree wholeheartedly! What a hoot! Guys after
my own heart
stuffing V-8's in tiny cars! Yummy stuff!!!

Stu
Nuke GM!
http://www.ford-trucks.com/~nukegm (for sale!!!)

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From: "wish" ford-trucks.net>
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 17:47:07 GMT
Subject: Re: 351 Cleveland in a 69 Cougar



>I've seen a ' 70 Cougar with a 351 Cleveland in it.

THat's because the Cleveland was unleashed to the world in 70. All the 351
4V's are supposed to be Clevelands in 70. That also makes a factory 4V Windsor
intake a bit tough to find as they are a 69 only thing. (Yes there was a truck
intake in 84+ but its not the same).



Just my $.02
wish

96 Mustang GT 5spd 4.6L
73ish 1/2ton 4x4 6.4L
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Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 17:20:30 -0400
From: bill poudrier ma.ultranet.com>
Subject: Re: 1979 F150 2WD Exhaust System

The headers are available, but after Hookers response I
just may use another brand. It is the rest of Exhaust
system that is the problem. Mine has about had it AND I
want to go to headers as well. Thanks for the info
on Dynomax.


At 02:46 PM 6/11/00 -0400, G & J Boling wrote:
>
>> I received the following answer from them:
>>
>> > We do not offer an exhaust system for a two wheel drive.
>> > Thanks,
>>
>> Can anone tell me what is is radically different on a 4WD vs 2WD?
>> Obviously Hooker cannot answer me.
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>>
>> Bill
>==========================================================
>try DYNOMAX headers a friend i have says he just bought a set for a 2 wheel
>drive truck from them and they fit perfectly
>from what i know of them the headers are pretty much the same EXCEPT the
>4x4s are longer to clear the transfer case is all
>at one time HOOKER was the best you could buy BUT no anymore it seems they
>rust out faster and are built cheaper it seems i have seen a few sets that
>looked to be made out of allot thinner tubing than the others are
>gordon
>
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Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 17:24:55 -0400
From: bill poudrier ma.ultranet.com>
Subject: Re: 1979 F150 2WD Exhaust System

At 01:42 PM 6/12/00 GMT, wish wrote:
>>
>>Can anone tell me what is is radically different on a 4WD vs 2WD?
>>Obviously Hooker cannot answer me.
>>
>
>Sometimes the frame rails are in different places to provide bracing for the
>front axle pivots and such. Likely Hooker just doesn't want to take the time
>to try and see what happens ....
>
>Just my $.02
>wish
>
I am sure that they just did not want to deal with the issue. They must
have too much business for my small potatoes. I do have quite a few
friends though 8*). The response was supposedly automatically generated.
I just love the personal touch don't you!

Any advice on where to get a bolt on Dual Exhaust system for headers for
a F150 2WD truck? Or do I buy the 4WD one and see what happens?

Bill


>96 Mustang GT 5spd 4.6L
>73ish 1/2ton 4x4 6.4L
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>
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Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 17:33:54 -0400
From: "Christopher J. Phillips" mail.med.upenn.edu>
Subject: Re: 1979 F150 2WD Exhaust System

PLEASE Also tell me why the exhaust is in front of my 79 150 rear wheel
instead of behine ????


At 5:24 PM -0400 6/13/2000, bill poudrier wrote:
>At 01:42 PM 6/12/00 GMT, wish wrote:
>>>
>>>Can anone tell me what is is radically different on a 4WD vs 2WD?
>>>Obviously Hooker cannot answer me.
>>>
>>
>>Sometimes the frame rails are in different places to provide bracing for the
>>front axle pivots and such. Likely Hooker just doesn't want to take the time
>>to try and see what happens ....
>>
>>Just my $.02
>>wish
>>
>I am sure that they just did not want to deal with the issue. They must
>have too much business for my small potatoes. I do have quite a few
>friends though 8*). The response was supposedly automatically generated.
>I just love the personal touch don't you!
>
>Any advice on where to get a bolt on Dual Exhaust system for headers for
>a F150 2WD truck? Or do I buy the 4WD one and see what happens?
>
>Bill
>
>
>>96 Mustang GT 5spd 4.6L
>>73ish 1/2ton 4x4 6.4L
>>http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish
>>
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Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 17:37:43 -0400
From: bill poudrier ma.ultranet.com>
Subject: Re: 351 Cleveland in a 69 Cougar

I have a 70 Mustang with a 351C/FMX combination also a
71 Torino 351C/FMX combo and a 69 Torino GT 351W-4V/FMX.
The FMX is a very good box. My junk yard friend hardly
ever sold one except for us collectors 8*).

I saw a 69 fairlane with a 351C in it. As has been stated
earlier, when the get near the end of the model year all
sorts of combinations begin to show up, especially if the
combination will be in the next years model.


>
>>I've seen a ' 70 Cougar with a 351 Cleveland in it.
>
>THat's because the Cleveland was unleashed to the world in 70. All the 351
>4V's are supposed to be Clevelands in 70. That also makes a factory 4V
Windsor
>intake a bit tough to find as they are a 69 only thing. (Yes there was a
truck
>intake in 84+ but its not the same).
>
>
>
>Just my $.02
>wish
>
>96 Mustang GT 5spd 4.6L
>73ish 1/2ton 4x4 6.4L
>http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish
>
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From: "G & J Boling" alltel.net>
Subject: Re: Looking For New '79 F-250 Seatbelts
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 17:47:39 -0700



> >The seat belts on my '79 F-250 4x4 have started to "return to
> >nature".
> >Any idea where I can find these, or what I could use as an
> >original-looking substitute?
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >Sean
======================================
try SNAKE OIL PRODUCTS i think they have a web page to they will take your
old belts when sent to them and recondition them to be LIKE NEW
gordon

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From: "wish" ford-trucks.net>
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 20:54:39 GMT
Subject: Re: 1979 F150 2WD Exhaust System



>PLEASE Also tell me why the exhaust is in front of my 79 150 rear wheel
>instead of behine ????
>
>

Pr'y where the previous owner decided to end it ... its much easier than messing
with the whole over the axle thing ... the 96-98? pickups came from the factory
this way, just an exit immediately in front of the rear wheels. My truck also
came with turn downs immediately in front of the axle because that was all the
law required when the truck was rebuilt.

My favorite was a Bl*z*r who decided to not bend the pipes just run them straight
out the back and let the axle bend them for him ... I think I saw the truck
later with some pretty good crimps, and one of them missing completely.

Just my $.02
wish

96 Mustang GT 5spd 4.6L
73ish 1/2ton 4x4 6.4L
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Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 17:03:19 -0500
From: Stu Varner ford-trucks.com>
Subject: Re: Looking For New '79 F-250 Seatbelts

>> >The seat belts on my '79 F-250 4x4 have started to "return to
>> >nature".
>> >Any idea where I can find these, or what I could use as an
>> >original-looking substitute?
>> >
>> >Thanks,
>> >
>> >Sean
>======================================
>try SNAKE OIL PRODUCTS i think they have a web page to they will take your
>old belts when sent to them and recondition them to be LIKE NEW
>gordon

Sean,

They will do a fabulous job at an outrageous cost too, I might add.
Resewing all new material etc. They will be like new and as safe too.
Good luck!


Stu
Nuke GM!
http://www.ford-trucks.com/~nukegm (for sale!!!)

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Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 15:22:35 -0700
From: Don nidlink.com>
Subject: Carter 625 AFB rebuild pointers needed

I am moving a Edelbrock intake with carter 625 afb from a 78 F250 4X4 400
to a 79 bronco with 400.The carb has sat for a couple years and sounds like
the best bet is to rebuild the carb and clean at the same time. I will be
picking up the rebuild kit from NAPA this week, Part #2-5663A which is a
cross reference to the Carter "strip kit" part #crt-902317A. Napa kit is $31.
I have never rebuilt a carb before and no instructions on how to do it at
hand right now,don't know how good the instructions are in the Napa
kit.Have searched the internet and found a GREAT guide on rebuilding the
holley's but nothing on the Carter AFB. Does anyone know of a site where
there might be some useful tips for rebuilding the AFB? Local library has
no books on carb rebuilding and spending 20-30 bucks on a book is outa the
question. Anyone who has done this,feel free to add input regarding this
project.
Nice to hear about the "you should do this" BEFORE I tear into the carb
as I understand there are ALOT of small parts! ;-)
THANKS!
Don


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From: "G & J Boling" alltel.net>
Subject: Re: 351 Cleveland in a 69 Cougar
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 18:34:20 -0700




> I have a 70 Mustang with a 351C/FMX combination also a
> 71 Torino 351C/FMX combo and a 69 Torino GT 351W-4V/FMX.
> The FMX is a very good box. My junk yard friend hardly
> ever sold one except for us collectors 8*).
=======================================YEYEA when the came out with the FMX
allot of the junk yards pulled them thinking this would be a high dollar
item soon well SURPRISE most of them either ended up scrapping them or just
stuck them away and forgot all about them seeing as how they never went bad
really BUT the C6s and chevy turbo 400s and 300s they made a killing on
them
gordon

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From: Matt Senn avistacom.net>
Subject: Re: Carter 625 AFB rebuild pointers needed
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 15:48:39 -0700

i've *always* used either the carter AFB or edlebrock performer series carbs
on my vehicles . . . they could not be simpler to rebuild:

1. remove clips that hold the linkages together between the top and bottom
halves of the carb (3 if elec choke, 2 if not)
2. remove the 2 small covers on top of the carb and remove the metering
rods and springs
3. remove the 8 screws that hold the top cover in place
4. remove the top cover and flip upside down
5. remove the floats (2 large pins)
6. remove the needles and seats and separate the brass filters from the
seats
7. remove and replace the accelerator pump assy. (if the strip kit came
with a new one, 1 screw and an "s" shaped peice of metal . . . sometimes,
they just come with the new rubber)
8. install new needles and seats (there should be a metal washer underneath
the seat and install the brass filters from old needles and seats)
9. install the new gasket (the big one that goes between the top and bottom
halves of the carb)
10. replace the floats and adjust per specs in kit (edlebrock also has this
info on the website)

on the bottom half

11. remove the primary and secondary venturi (2 screws each) and the
accelerator pump nozzle (2 screws, and a little ball and pin assy.)
12. replace all gaskets and reassemble primary and secondary venturi (they
only go in one way)
13. replace "ball and pin" in accelerator pump nozzle assembly, install new
gasket and nozzles
14. replace top cover, secure with 8 screws
15. install the srings and metering rods and replace the covers (make sure
that the metering rods make it into the jets . . . they should move freely
up and down with a gentle push)
16. reattach linkages between top and bottom covers and secure clips
17. done

it's easiest to clean the carb while it disassembled but be careful not to
lose or damage anything . . . just shoot all the major components with carb
cleaner

did i miss anything?????



-----Original Message-----
From: Don [mailto:donr nidlink.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2000 4:23 PM
To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: [61-79-list] Carter 625 AFB rebuild pointers needed


I am moving a Edelbrock intake with carter 625 afb from a 78 F250 4X4 400
to a 79 bronco with 400.The carb has sat for a couple years and sounds like
the best bet is to rebuild the carb and clean at the same time. I will be
picking up the rebuild kit from NAPA this week, Part #2-5663A which is a
cross reference to the Carter "strip kit" part #crt-902317A. Napa kit is
$31.
I have never rebuilt a carb before and no instructions on how to do it at
hand right now,don't know how good the instructions are in the Napa
kit.Have searched the internet and found a GREAT guide on rebuilding the
holley's but nothing on the Carter AFB. Does anyone know of a site where
there might be some useful tips for rebuilding the AFB? Local library has
no books on carb rebuilding and spending 20-30 bucks on a book is outa the
question. Anyone who has done this,feel free to add input regarding this
project.
Nice to hear about the "you should do this" BEFORE I tear into the carb
as I understand there are ALOT of small parts! ;-)
THANKS!
Don

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Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2000 13:38:11 -0500
From: Stu Varner ford-trucks.com>
Subject: Re: stepside steps

>>I have a set of the smaller steps for sale for what I thought belonged to
the
>73-79 years. When a I met another FTE we matched them up to his 75 4x4 and
they
>didn't fit as well as the larger steps. Any help out there ? Does the 4WD
have
>anything to do with it?
>
>Actually I think it has to do with the year, I'm thinkin the early stepsides
>used a previous body style of step side, and then they switched to a newer
looking
>bed ... which in turn bled into the early 80's where they came up with yet
another
>newer bed ...
>
>Anyone confirm or deny this ?

I am quite certain 73-79 flareside beds are different than the 53-72
flareside beds.
Tailgates are different too.

Stu
Nuke GM!
http://www.ford-trucks.com/~nukegm (for sale!!!)

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From: TBeeee aol.com
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 20:12:20 EDT
Subject: Truck web site.

Speaking of truck sites....I'd sure would appreciate a test drive and some
feedback. If there is anybody on the list that likes fire trucks be sure to
click on the My Trucks link and take a peek at my new toy. TIA

Stock Man
1967 F-250 4wd Mini Fire Truck
1967 F-250 FE 390 4wd
1966 F-250 I6 240 2wd LWB Flare Side
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.hometown.aol.com/tbeeee

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From: "Garrett Nelson" writeme.com>
Subject: What is Fender Welt and will I need to buy some?
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 19:33:26 -0500


I'm repainting my 66 F100 and I saw this stuff while looking through the Dennis Carpenter catalog. Will I need it?

Thanks

---Garrett www.1966ford.com


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Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 20:45:13 -0400
From: Brad mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: ATF in Manuals

At 01:39 AM 06/05/2000 -0500, you wrote:
>
>Most all the late 80's and 90's have auto fluid or there own lube in the
manuals.
>I was told tolerances were closer in designs now and needed lighter oil to
get
>into the tight spaces. Also gives easier shifting at winter time. Even
transfer cases
>now have ATF in them.
> "G"

You are correct in that some t cases and manuals use ATF, however, be
extremely careful if you have a newer vehicle and drain the fluid in either
of these components. Just about all new vehicles, esp. trucks have a fluid
designed for their application. I work at a dealership, and there are
times we don't even have the right fluid for a manual or a t-case because
there are so many out there... Some are regular gear grease with 5/10/15%
friction modifier, and some are this stuff called "Auto trac fluid" which
is blue from the factory, but red coming out of the bottle... strange, I
know.... Just a note - be careful if you are looking for longevity!

Brad



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Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 20:55:33 -0400
From: Brad mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: Transfering R12 between vehicles?

At 10:54 AM 06/06/2000 EDT, you wrote:
>I am again going to show my ignorance concerning A/C systems.
>
>I have two vehicles using R12, an 86 Volvo and a 73 F250. Both have partial
>R12 charges. The Volvo's getting an R134A retrofit shortly.
>
>Here's the question. Using only a standard R12 manifold/gauge, can I
>transfer the remaining R12 in the Volvo to the truck? That is, can I hook
>the high side of the Volvo through the manifold to the low side of the
truck,
>start both engines, open the valves and thus evacuate the Volvo and recharge
>the F250?
>
>Thanks in advance.
>
>Lee

To be honest, I have never heard of anyone doing this, but I don't see why
it wouldn't work... I would just do it very very slowly..

Good luck!

Brad



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Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 21:09:59 -0400
From: Brad mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: GM

At 03:39 PM 06/10/2000 -0500, you wrote:
>
>Scott H. writes: >> __gm__.com...
>
>Surely not!!!!
>
>Why not Scott... I worked for Chrysler(now DaimlerChrysler for 32 years,
and just retired the last day of Aoril 2000...
>
>
>Put your flamethrower back up. All have the priviledge and opportunity to
love and drive Ford Trucks...
>
>Azie Magnusson
>Ardmore, Al.
>

Ok, Ok.... I have to admit it.. I work for the bad guys... That's right I
work at a Ch &y dealership.. and I laugh all the way to the bank... The way
I see it is job security, and the cool thing is 4 of our 5 techs (we're a
small dealership) are not only Ford drivers, but Ford nuts! It is really
kinda cool, cause we talk some serious sh*t about those Che*&es...

Brad
78 F150 4x4 429
92 Ranger Sport (I can't find the sport though) 2.3L
98 Mustang




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From: "G & J Boling" alltel.net>
Subject: Re: Transfering R12 between vehicles?
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 22:12:28 -0700

i just saw on the t bird list someone wanting to do this exact same thing
and a member who is a A/C man says yes it can be done
cant recall how tho
gordon

----------
> From: Brad mindspring.com>
> To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: [61-79-list] Re: Transfering R12 between vehicles?
> Date: Tuesday, June 13, 2000 5:55 PM
>
> At 10:54 AM 06/06/2000 EDT, you wrote:
> >I am again going to show my ignorance concerning A/C systems.
> >
> >I have two vehicles using R12, an 86 Volvo and a 73 F250. Both have
partial
> >R12 charges. The Volvo's getting an R134A retrofit shortly.
> >
> >Here's the question. Using only a standard R12 manifold/gauge, can I
> >transfer the remaining R12 in the Volvo to the truck? That is, can I
hook
> >the high side of the Volvo through the manifold to the low side of the
> truck,
> >start both engines, open the valves and thus evacuate the Volvo and
recharge
> >the F250?
> >
> >Thanks in advance.
> >
> >Lee
>
> To be honest, I have never heard of anyone doing this, but I don't see
why
> it wouldn't work... I would just do it very very slowly..
>
> Good luck!
>
> Brad
>
>
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From: "G & J Boling" alltel.net>
Subject: Re: Wild Pinto's & Merc FE Valvecovers
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 22:25:23 -0700



Bet some of them were
> blazingly fast though. .
> Peace, J. Allison
>
=========================================
speaking of fast PINTOS we had one we stuck a 351 CLEVELAND into it
it sure gave thos chevys a fit when we took of and left em....


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