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Received: with LISTAR (v0.128a; list 61-79-list); Tue, 13 Jun 2000 22:12:41 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 22:12:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Ford Truck Enthusiasts List Server To: 61-79-list digest users Reply-to: 61-79-list  ford-trucks.com Subject: 61-79-list Digest V2000 #126 Precedence: bulk ========================================================== Ford Truck Enthusiasts 1961-1979 Truck Mailing List Visit our web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ford-trucks.com with the words "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the subject of the message. ========================================================== ------------------------------------ 61-79-list Digest Tue, 13 Jun 2000 Volume: 2000 Issue: 126 In This Issue: Looking For New '79 F-250 Seatbelts Re: 78 f250 front axle what is it? Re: 351 Cleveland in a 69 Cougar Re: 351 Cleveland in a 69 Cougar Re: Looking For New '79 F-250 Seatbelts Re: I think I am about to tackle the paint/body work on m Re: Looking For New '79 F-250 Seatbelts Re: Where will it end.... Re: I think I am about to tackle the paint/body work on m Re: Where will it end.... 351M FMX Re: Wild Pinto's & Merc FE Valvecovers Re: Wild Pinto's & Merc FE Valvecovers Re: Wild Pinto's & Merc FE Valvecovers Re: 351 Cleveland in a 69 Cougar Re: 1979 F150 2WD Exhaust System Re: 1979 F150 2WD Exhaust System Re: 1979 F150 2WD Exhaust System Re: 351 Cleveland in a 69 Cougar Re: Looking For New '79 F-250 Seatbelts Re: 1979 F150 2WD Exhaust System Re: Looking For New '79 F-250 Seatbelts Carter 625 AFB rebuild pointers needed Re: 351 Cleveland in a 69 Cougar Re: Carter 625 AFB rebuild pointers needed Re: stepside steps Truck web site. What is Fender Welt and will I need to buy some? Re: ATF in Manuals Re: Transfering R12 between vehicles? Re: GM Re: Transfering R12 between vehicles? Re: Wild Pinto's & Merc FE Valvecovers steering gear box/powerstroke diesels Car shows????? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 02:52:14 -0400 From: "Sean R. Kerns" Subject: Looking For New '79 F-250 Seatbelts Hi all, The seat belts on my '79 F-250 4x4 have started to "return to nature". They were faded when I got the truck, but now they've actually started to fray and unravel. I question their effectiveness in an accident at this point. Problem is, I can't find new ones. All the Ford parts sources I know of just sell the generic lap belts, not the factory shoulder belts I'm looking for. I might be able to find some in a junkyard, but black is hard to find, and they're likely to have the same problem as the belts I already have. Any idea where I can find these, or what I could use as an original-looking substitute? Thanks, Sean -- Sean R. Kerns (aka Snake) e-mail: music bloodspoint.com Bloodspoint Studio - Home of Stalking Horse http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.bloodspoint.com "You're in a band... That's like a business class ticket to cool, with complimentary mojo after takeoff..." ------------------------------ From: FORDTRKNUT aol.com Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 06:51:35 EDT Subject: Re: 78 f250 front axle what is it? If the steering arm has 3 bolts attaching it to the steering knuckle, its a Dana 44. If the steering arm has 4 bolts attaching it the steering knuckle, its a Dana 60. The housing(s) also have a cast "60 or 44" in the web of the center housing. If you have any more questions....let me know!!! Wayne Grabley ------------------------------ From: "wish" Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 13:30:40 GMT Subject: Re: 351 Cleveland in a 69 Cougar >I don't know about the Cleveland being an option in the 69 Cougars, but I >use to own a 69 Cougar with the 351 Windsor. It also had the smoothest 3 >speed behind it you could ever imagine. The Cleveland wasn't an "option" in 69, at least not in the sense that you selected it. As someone mentioned the 4V is an M-code, if it is a 2-V from the factory it will be an H-code (5th digit in the VIN). If it is an H code there is no doubt it was a W from the factory. However if it is an M code and is late in the production run, then it is possible it did receive a Cleveland. The factory never admitted to it or anything, but I've seen way too many late 69's with Clevelands for them to all be swapped out... That "smooth 3spd" you refer to certainly does apply to this truck list and conversation, if you look at the door tag and it has an X under the trans. code, then you've got the FMX automatic tranny in it from the factory. A 69 Cougar was my first car, and now Dad's got one that's very similar, if you've got any questions in particular about them, lemme know, if I can't find the answer I can probably point you in the right direction. Just my $.02 wish 96 Mustang GT 5spd 4.6L 73ish 1/2ton 4x4 6.4L http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish Ford Truck Enthusiasts http://www.ford-trucks.com ------------------------------ From: "Tim and Pam Allgire" Subject: Re: 351 Cleveland in a 69 Cougar Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 11:26:25 -0400 I've seen a ' 70 Cougar with a 351 Cleveland in it. -----Original Message----- From: Neal De Pape To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com <61-79-list ford-trucks.com> Date: Monday, June 12, 2000 3:21 PM Subject: [61-79-list] 351 Cleveland in a 69 Cougar >I'll apologize for the off topic post right away. My >lame excuse is that this list is the only group that I >know of that might be able to answer these questions. > >Now to the question, I am looking at purchasing a 1969 >Mercury Cougar XR7 convertible. I am told that it has >a 351 Cleveland in it. Was the Cleveland an option in >1969 for Cougars? I thought only the Windsor was >available. Also, what transmission might be used >behind this engine? The current owner only knows its >a Ford automatic. > >FTE content: If I buy it, I'll go pick it up in my >1968 Mercury pickup. > >TIA, > >Neal DePape >1968 Mercury M(?)-100, 300-6 > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! >http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://photos.yahoo.com >========================================================== >To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ford-trucks.com with >the words "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the subject of the >message. > ------------------------------ From: "Michael White" Subject: Re: Looking For New '79 F-250 Seatbelts Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 09:24:10 -0600 Try your local upholstery shop. They should be able to use your old seatbelt hardware combined with new seat belt material to create a new assembly. Michael ~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Hi all, > > The seat belts on my '79 F-250 4x4 have started to "return to > nature". They were faded when I got the truck, but now they've > actually started to fray and unravel. I question their > effectiveness in an accident at this point. > Problem is, I can't find new ones. All the Ford parts sources > I know of just sell the generic lap belts, not the factory > shoulder belts I'm looking for. > I might be able to find some in a junkyard, but black is hard > to find, and they're likely to have the same problem as the > belts I already have. > > Any idea where I can find these, or what I could use as an > original-looking substitute? > > Thanks, > > Sean ------------------------------ From: "Tim and Pam Allgire" Subject: Re: I think I am about to tackle the paint/body work on m Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 11:50:06 -0400 If the yellow truck in the picture is the truck you are referring to doing the resto on,it looks like you have a very good starting point to work from. -----Original Message----- From: Garrett Nelson To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com <61-79-list ford-trucks.com> Date: Monday, June 12, 2000 10:41 PM Subject: [61-79-list] I think I am about to tackle the paint/body work on my 66 F100 > >The truck- www.1966ford.com > >I have a friend that has a spray booth out at his farm and between the two of us and his uncle we are going to gut the truck, do a little welding and repair, and paint it a nice dark shade of blue. I am going to cover the interior with sound deadening while I am at it, and replace all the weather-stripping and misc. small parts like that. I just got my Dennis Carpenter catalog today, and found lots of stuff that should help me out. > >I have a little bit of experience with body work but have never done a project this big before. Is there anything I should look out for? Anyone have some good advice? And how much can I expect to spend on this project? I got a few quotes at body shops in town ranging from $2,000 up to $10 grand. > >Tell me I am doing the right thing, this will be using up most of my paychecks for quite a while now. > >---Garrett > >========================================================== >To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ford-trucks.com with >the words "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the subject of the >message. > ------------------------------ From: "Tim and Pam Allgire" Subject: Re: Looking For New '79 F-250 Seatbelts Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 11:58:39 -0400 Did you check in the Dennis Carpenter or the LMC Catalogs ? They have just about everything you need for a restoration. -----Original Message----- From: Sean R. Kerns To: Ford 61-79 List <61-79-list ford-trucks.com> Date: Tuesday, June 13, 2000 2:55 AM Subject: [61-79-list] Looking For New '79 F-250 Seatbelts >Hi all, > >The seat belts on my '79 F-250 4x4 have started to "return to >nature". They were faded when I got the truck, but now they've >actually started to fray and unravel. I question their >effectiveness in an accident at this point. >Problem is, I can't find new ones. All the Ford parts sources >I know of just sell the generic lap belts, not the factory >shoulder belts I'm looking for. >I might be able to find some in a junkyard, but black is hard >to find, and they're likely to have the same problem as the >belts I already have. > >Any idea where I can find these, or what I could use as an >original-looking substitute? > >Thanks, > >Sean > > >-- >Sean R. Kerns (aka Snake) >e-mail: music bloodspoint.com >Bloodspoint Studio - Home of Stalking Horse >http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.bloodspoint.com >"You're in a band... That's like a business class ticket to >cool, with complimentary mojo after takeoff..." > > >========================================================== >To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ford-trucks.com with >the words "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the subject of the >message. > ------------------------------ From: "Dave Resch" Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 10:43:30 -0600 Subject: Re: Where will it end.... >From: David Wadson > > we bent and broke the dipstick tube in order >to get the pan out. I got the kick in the teeth >a few days later when I went to the Ford >dealer and found out that tube was worth $59. Yo Dave: You should look for another dealer. Even w/ the relatively weak value of the Canadian Peso, you're still getting the shaft. In Denver, I can get the M-block rear sump dipstick tube for about $19US. The part number is E1TZ-6754-C. Good luck. Dave R (M-block devotee) ------------------------------ From: "Garrett Nelson" Subject: Re: I think I am about to tackle the paint/body work on m Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 11:48:07 -0500 Yeah that's the one! --Garrett ----- Original Message ----- From: Tim and Pam Allgire To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2000 10:50 AM Subject: [61-79-list] Re: I think I am about to tackle the paint/body work on my 66 F100 If the yellow truck in the picture is the truck you are referring to doing the resto on,it looks like you have a very good starting point to work from. -----Original Message----- From: Garrett Nelson To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com <61-79-list ford-trucks.com> Date: Monday, June 12, 2000 10:41 PM Subject: [61-79-list] I think I am about to tackle the paint/body work on my 66 F100 > >The truck- www.1966ford.com > >I have a friend that has a spray booth out at his farm and between the two of us and his uncle we are going to gut the truck, do a little welding and repair, and paint it a nice dark shade of blue. I am going to cover the interior with sound deadening while I am at it, and replace all the weather-stripping and misc. small parts like that. I just got my Dennis Carpenter catalog today, and found lots of stuff that should help me out. > >I have a little bit of experience with body work but have never done a project this big before. Is there anything I should look out for? Anyone have some good advice? And how much can I expect to spend on this project? I got a few quotes at body shops in town ranging from $2,000 up to $10 grand. > >Tell me I am doing the right thing, this will be using up most of my paychecks for quite a while now. > >---Garrett > >========================================================== >To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ford-trucks.com with >the words "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the subject of the >message. > ========================================================== To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ford-trucks.com with the words "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the subject of the message. ------------------------------ From: "Southerland, Rich" Subject: Re: Where will it end.... Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 09:52:42 -0700 Don't know if it would work in this case, but I once had the same thing happen on a Toy*ta I was changing the engine on. broke the dipstick tube a 7pm on a Saturday. Took the pieces to the parts store and found that if I cut one end off of a 3/8" brake line, removed the line nuts, I had a workable dipstick tube! The end I didn't cut (still had the flare on it) fit the dipstick perfectly! Cut it to length and put a little bend in it to match the old one and we were done. Been on there 2 years so far. Cost $2. -----Original Message----- From: Dave Resch [mailto:Dave.Resch sybase.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2000 9:44 AM To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com Subject: [61-79-list] Re: Where will it end.... >From: David Wadson > > we bent and broke the dipstick tube in order >to get the pan out. I got the kick in the teeth >a few days later when I went to the Ford >dealer and found out that tube was worth $59. Yo Dave: You should look for another dealer. Even w/ the relatively weak value of the Canadian Peso, you're still getting the shaft. In Denver, I can get the M-block rear sump dipstick tube for about $19US. The part number is E1TZ-6754-C. Good luck. Dave R (M-block devotee) ========================================================== To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ford-trucks.com with the words "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the subject of the message. ------------------------------ From: "Dave Resch" Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 10:52:39 -0600 Subject: 351M FMX >From: "NP 540" >Subject: 351M FMX > >Yep, indeed there was a FMX behind those >351M: I have one behind the 351M in my >(almost dead) 1976 LTD. I am also sure that >they were also behind 351M into 77-79 >Thunderbirds and Cougars. Yo Gerry: You learn something every day, especially on the FTE list! I guess I haven't looked that closely at '70s car M-blocks in the junkyards. The few I've looked closely at had C6s behind them... at least I thought they did. :-? Now it seems even more odd that Ford made the one-year only D3AE M-blocks w/ small-block bell housing bolt pattern, since apparently FMXs were available w/ the big-block bell housing. I wonder if the big-block FMX bell housing came out after 1973 and maybe Ford decided that changing the bell housing was easier than having two different M-block engine block designs? Tranny history can be just as interesting as engine history, and maybe even more convoluted. Dave R (M-block devotee) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 10:33:16 -0700 (PDT) From: "J. Allison" Subject: Re: Wild Pinto's & Merc FE Valvecovers Well shiver me timbers and blow me down! Those Pinto's were a crack up!!! Bet some of them were blazingly fast though. Go about 2/3 of the way down the main page for the FE "Mercury" valvecovers. Bill, are you sure those are FE covers? There's something funny looking about them... Could be my imagination. Peace, J. Allison > From: "Bill Beyer" > Subject: Mercury FE valve covers... > I seem to recall some dim memory of someone on the > list looking for Mercury FE valve covers. This guy > has some for sale: > > http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.bob2000.com/pinto2.htm > > Scroll down a little over halfway down the page... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://photos.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: "Bill Beyer" Subject: Re: Wild Pinto's & Merc FE Valvecovers Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 10:48:34 -0700 Absolutely not sure at all...like I said I just have some dim memory of someone looking for Merc valve covers...I think it was Muel that told me...but either way I'm just going on what that guy says they are. "If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, riddle them with bullets" ----- Original Message ----- From: J. Allison To: <61-79-list ford-trucks.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2000 10:33 AM Subject: [61-79-list] Re: Wild Pinto's & Merc FE Valvecovers > Well shiver me timbers and blow me down! Those > Pinto's were a crack up!!! Bet some of them were > blazingly fast though. Go about 2/3 of the way down > the main page for the FE "Mercury" valvecovers. Bill, > are you sure those are FE covers? There's something > funny looking about them... Could be my imagination. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 13:12:16 -0500 From: Stu Varner Subject: Re: Wild Pinto's & Merc FE Valvecovers At 10:33 AM 6/13/00 -0700, you wrote: > Well shiver me timbers and blow me down! Those >Pinto's were a crack up!!! Bet some of them were >blazingly fast though. Go about 2/3 of the way down >the main page for the FE "Mercury" valvecovers. Bill, >are you sure those are FE covers? There's something >funny looking about them... Could be my imagination. > Peace, J. Allison > >> From: "Bill Beyer" >> Subject: Mercury FE valve covers... > >> I seem to recall some dim memory of someone on the >> list looking for Mercury FE valve covers. This guy >> has some for sale: >> >> http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.bob2000.com/pinto2.htm >> >> Scroll down a little over halfway down the page... > They are FE valve covers for late 50's and early 60's FE's before they changed the intake style which had the oil fill neck in the front of the intake manifold. The only other FE valve covers I have ever seen for FE's are the pent roof style like the 427's had in R code versions or other hi-po applications etc. There may be other versions I have not seen for FE's. Anyone?? The FE covers I own have the word Mercury written in script letters instead of block letters (like in the picture mentioned above) and have two lightning bolts below the word Mercury. They also have holes for PCV access and oil fill/breather cap. If you want to see a picture of the other variety let me know off list and I will send a jpg of what I have. As far as the Pinto's go, I agree wholeheartedly! What a hoot! Guys after my own heart stuffing V-8's in tiny cars! Yummy stuff!!! Stu Nuke GM! http://www.ford-trucks.com/~nukegm (for sale!!!) ------------------------------ From: "wish" Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 17:47:07 GMT Subject: Re: 351 Cleveland in a 69 Cougar >I've seen a ' 70 Cougar with a 351 Cleveland in it. THat's because the Cleveland was unleashed to the world in 70. All the 351 4V's are supposed to be Clevelands in 70. That also makes a factory 4V Windsor intake a bit tough to find as they are a 69 only thing. (Yes there was a truck intake in 84+ but its not the same). Just my $.02 wish 96 Mustang GT 5spd 4.6L 73ish 1/2ton 4x4 6.4L http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish Ford Truck Enthusiasts http://www.ford-trucks.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 17:20:30 -0400 From: bill poudrier Subject: Re: 1979 F150 2WD Exhaust System The headers are available, but after Hookers response I just may use another brand. It is the rest of Exhaust system that is the problem. Mine has about had it AND I want to go to headers as well. Thanks for the info on Dynomax. At 02:46 PM 6/11/00 -0400, G & J Boling wrote: > >> I received the following answer from them: >> >> > We do not offer an exhaust system for a two wheel drive. >> > Thanks, >> >> Can anone tell me what is is radically different on a 4WD vs 2WD? >> Obviously Hooker cannot answer me. >> >> Thanks in advance, >> >> Bill >========================================================== >try DYNOMAX headers a friend i have says he just bought a set for a 2 wheel >drive truck from them and they fit perfectly >from what i know of them the headers are pretty much the same EXCEPT the >4x4s are longer to clear the transfer case is all >at one time HOOKER was the best you could buy BUT no anymore it seems they >rust out faster and are built cheaper it seems i have seen a few sets that >looked to be made out of allot thinner tubing than the others are >gordon > >========================================================== >To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ford-trucks.com with >the words "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the subject of the >message. > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 17:24:55 -0400 From: bill poudrier Subject: Re: 1979 F150 2WD Exhaust System At 01:42 PM 6/12/00 GMT, wish wrote: >> >>Can anone tell me what is is radically different on a 4WD vs 2WD? >>Obviously Hooker cannot answer me. >> > >Sometimes the frame rails are in different places to provide bracing for the >front axle pivots and such. Likely Hooker just doesn't want to take the time >to try and see what happens .... > >Just my $.02 >wish > I am sure that they just did not want to deal with the issue. They must have too much business for my small potatoes. I do have quite a few friends though 8*). The response was supposedly automatically generated. I just love the personal touch don't you! Any advice on where to get a bolt on Dual Exhaust system for headers for a F150 2WD truck? Or do I buy the 4WD one and see what happens? Bill >96 Mustang GT 5spd 4.6L >73ish 1/2ton 4x4 6.4L >http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish > >Ford Truck Enthusiasts >http://www.ford-trucks.com >========================================================== >To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ford-trucks.com with >the words "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the subject of the >message. > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 17:33:54 -0400 From: "Christopher J. Phillips" Subject: Re: 1979 F150 2WD Exhaust System PLEASE Also tell me why the exhaust is in front of my 79 150 rear wheel instead of behine ???? At 5:24 PM -0400 6/13/2000, bill poudrier wrote: >At 01:42 PM 6/12/00 GMT, wish wrote: >>> >>>Can anone tell me what is is radically different on a 4WD vs 2WD? >>>Obviously Hooker cannot answer me. >>> >> >>Sometimes the frame rails are in different places to provide bracing for the >>front axle pivots and such. Likely Hooker just doesn't want to take the time >>to try and see what happens .... >> >>Just my $.02 >>wish >> >I am sure that they just did not want to deal with the issue. They must >have too much business for my small potatoes. I do have quite a few >friends though 8*). The response was supposedly automatically generated. >I just love the personal touch don't you! > >Any advice on where to get a bolt on Dual Exhaust system for headers for >a F150 2WD truck? Or do I buy the 4WD one and see what happens? > >Bill > > >>96 Mustang GT 5spd 4.6L >>73ish 1/2ton 4x4 6.4L >>http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish >> >>Ford Truck Enthusiasts >>http://www.ford-trucks.com >>========================================================== >>To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ford-trucks.com with >>the words "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the subject of the >>message. >> >> > >========================================================== >To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ford-trucks.com with >the words "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the subject of the >message. Christopher J. Phillips (215) 573-5427 voice Building Administrator (215) 898-6252 fax University of Pennsylvania Medical Center 215 Blockley Hall 423 Guardian Drive Philadelphia, PA 19104-6069 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 17:37:43 -0400 From: bill poudrier Subject: Re: 351 Cleveland in a 69 Cougar I have a 70 Mustang with a 351C/FMX combination also a 71 Torino 351C/FMX combo and a 69 Torino GT 351W-4V/FMX. The FMX is a very good box. My junk yard friend hardly ever sold one except for us collectors 8*). I saw a 69 fairlane with a 351C in it. As has been stated earlier, when the get near the end of the model year all sorts of combinations begin to show up, especially if the combination will be in the next years model. > >>I've seen a ' 70 Cougar with a 351 Cleveland in it. > >THat's because the Cleveland was unleashed to the world in 70. All the 351 >4V's are supposed to be Clevelands in 70. That also makes a factory 4V Windsor >intake a bit tough to find as they are a 69 only thing. (Yes there was a truck >intake in 84+ but its not the same). > > > >Just my $.02 >wish > >96 Mustang GT 5spd 4.6L >73ish 1/2ton 4x4 6.4L >http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish > >Ford Truck Enthusiasts >http://www.ford-trucks.com >========================================================== >To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ford-trucks.com with >the words "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the subject of the >message. > > ------------------------------ From: "G & J Boling" Subject: Re: Looking For New '79 F-250 Seatbelts Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 17:47:39 -0700 > >The seat belts on my '79 F-250 4x4 have started to "return to > >nature". > >Any idea where I can find these, or what I could use as an > >original-looking substitute? > > > >Thanks, > > > >Sean ====================================== try SNAKE OIL PRODUCTS i think they have a web page to they will take your old belts when sent to them and recondition them to be LIKE NEW gordon ------------------------------ From: "wish" Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 20:54:39 GMT Subject: Re: 1979 F150 2WD Exhaust System >PLEASE Also tell me why the exhaust is in front of my 79 150 rear wheel >instead of behine ???? > > Pr'y where the previous owner decided to end it ... its much easier than messing with the whole over the axle thing ... the 96-98? pickups came from the factory this way, just an exit immediately in front of the rear wheels. My truck also came with turn downs immediately in front of the axle because that was all the law required when the truck was rebuilt. My favorite was a Bl*z*r who decided to not bend the pipes just run them straight out the back and let the axle bend them for him ... I think I saw the truck later with some pretty good crimps, and one of them missing completely. Just my $.02 wish 96 Mustang GT 5spd 4.6L 73ish 1/2ton 4x4 6.4L http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish Ford Truck Enthusiasts http://www.ford-trucks.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 17:03:19 -0500 From: Stu Varner Subject: Re: Looking For New '79 F-250 Seatbelts >> >The seat belts on my '79 F-250 4x4 have started to "return to >> >nature". >> >Any idea where I can find these, or what I could use as an >> >original-looking substitute? >> > >> >Thanks, >> > >> >Sean >====================================== >try SNAKE OIL PRODUCTS i think they have a web page to they will take your >old belts when sent to them and recondition them to be LIKE NEW >gordon Sean, They will do a fabulous job at an outrageous cost too, I might add. Resewing all new material etc. They will be like new and as safe too. Good luck! Stu Nuke GM! http://www.ford-trucks.com/~nukegm (for sale!!!) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 15:22:35 -0700 From: Don Subject: Carter 625 AFB rebuild pointers needed I am moving a Edelbrock intake with carter 625 afb from a 78 F250 4X4 400 to a 79 bronco with 400.The carb has sat for a couple years and sounds like the best bet is to rebuild the carb and clean at the same time. I will be picking up the rebuild kit from NAPA this week, Part #2-5663A which is a cross reference to the Carter "strip kit" part #crt-902317A. Napa kit is $31. I have never rebuilt a carb before and no instructions on how to do it at hand right now,don't know how good the instructions are in the Napa kit.Have searched the internet and found a GREAT guide on rebuilding the holley's but nothing on the Carter AFB. Does anyone know of a site where there might be some useful tips for rebuilding the AFB? Local library has no books on carb rebuilding and spending 20-30 bucks on a book is outa the question. Anyone who has done this,feel free to add input regarding this project. Nice to hear about the "you should do this" BEFORE I tear into the carb as I understand there are ALOT of small parts! ;-) THANKS! Don ------------------------------ From: "G & J Boling" Subject: Re: 351 Cleveland in a 69 Cougar Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 18:34:20 -0700 > I have a 70 Mustang with a 351C/FMX combination also a > 71 Torino 351C/FMX combo and a 69 Torino GT 351W-4V/FMX. > The FMX is a very good box. My junk yard friend hardly > ever sold one except for us collectors 8*). =======================================YEYEA when the came out with the FMX allot of the junk yards pulled them thinking this would be a high dollar item soon well SURPRISE most of them either ended up scrapping them or just stuck them away and forgot all about them seeing as how they never went bad really BUT the C6s and chevy turbo 400s and 300s they made a killing on them gordon ------------------------------ From: Matt Senn Subject: Re: Carter 625 AFB rebuild pointers needed Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 15:48:39 -0700 i've *always* used either the carter AFB or edlebrock performer series carbs on my vehicles . . . they could not be simpler to rebuild: 1. remove clips that hold the linkages together between the top and bottom halves of the carb (3 if elec choke, 2 if not) 2. remove the 2 small covers on top of the carb and remove the metering rods and springs 3. remove the 8 screws that hold the top cover in place 4. remove the top cover and flip upside down 5. remove the floats (2 large pins) 6. remove the needles and seats and separate the brass filters from the seats 7. remove and replace the accelerator pump assy. (if the strip kit came with a new one, 1 screw and an "s" shaped peice of metal . . . sometimes, they just come with the new rubber) 8. install new needles and seats (there should be a metal washer underneath the seat and install the brass filters from old needles and seats) 9. install the new gasket (the big one that goes between the top and bottom halves of the carb) 10. replace the floats and adjust per specs in kit (edlebrock also has this info on the website) on the bottom half 11. remove the primary and secondary venturi (2 screws each) and the accelerator pump nozzle (2 screws, and a little ball and pin assy.) 12. replace all gaskets and reassemble primary and secondary venturi (they only go in one way) 13. replace "ball and pin" in accelerator pump nozzle assembly, install new gasket and nozzles 14. replace top cover, secure with 8 screws 15. install the srings and metering rods and replace the covers (make sure that the metering rods make it into the jets . . . they should move freely up and down with a gentle push) 16. reattach linkages between top and bottom covers and secure clips 17. done it's easiest to clean the carb while it disassembled but be careful not to lose or damage anything . . . just shoot all the major components with carb cleaner did i miss anything????? -----Original Message----- From: Don [mailto:donr nidlink.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2000 4:23 PM To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com Subject: [61-79-list] Carter 625 AFB rebuild pointers needed I am moving a Edelbrock intake with carter 625 afb from a 78 F250 4X4 400 to a 79 bronco with 400.The carb has sat for a couple years and sounds like the best bet is to rebuild the carb and clean at the same time. I will be picking up the rebuild kit from NAPA this week, Part #2-5663A which is a cross reference to the Carter "strip kit" part #crt-902317A. Napa kit is $31. I have never rebuilt a carb before and no instructions on how to do it at hand right now,don't know how good the instructions are in the Napa kit.Have searched the internet and found a GREAT guide on rebuilding the holley's but nothing on the Carter AFB. Does anyone know of a site where there might be some useful tips for rebuilding the AFB? Local library has no books on carb rebuilding and spending 20-30 bucks on a book is outa the question. Anyone who has done this,feel free to add input regarding this project. Nice to hear about the "you should do this" BEFORE I tear into the carb as I understand there are ALOT of small parts! ;-) THANKS! Don ========================================================== To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ford-trucks.com with the words "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the subject of the message. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2000 13:38:11 -0500 From: Stu Varner Subject: Re: stepside steps >>I have a set of the smaller steps for sale for what I thought belonged to the >73-79 years. When a I met another FTE we matched them up to his 75 4x4 and they >didn't fit as well as the larger steps. Any help out there ? Does the 4WD have >anything to do with it? > >Actually I think it has to do with the year, I'm thinkin the early stepsides >used a previous body style of step side, and then they switched to a newer looking >bed ... which in turn bled into the early 80's where they came up with yet another >newer bed ... > >Anyone confirm or deny this ? I am quite certain 73-79 flareside beds are different than the 53-72 flareside beds. Tailgates are different too. Stu Nuke GM! http://www.ford-trucks.com/~nukegm (for sale!!!) ------------------------------ From: TBeeee aol.com Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 20:12:20 EDT Subject: Truck web site. Speaking of truck sites....I'd sure would appreciate a test drive and some feedback. If there is anybody on the list that likes fire trucks be sure to click on the My Trucks link and take a peek at my new toy. TIA Stock Man 1967 F-250 4wd Mini Fire Truck 1967 F-250 FE 390 4wd 1966 F-250 I6 240 2wd LWB Flare Side http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.hometown.aol.com/tbeeee ------------------------------ From: "Garrett Nelson" Subject: What is Fender Welt and will I need to buy some? Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 19:33:26 -0500 I'm repainting my 66 F100 and I saw this stuff while looking through the Dennis Carpenter catalog. Will I need it? Thanks ---Garrett www.1966ford.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 20:45:13 -0400 From: Brad Subject: Re: ATF in Manuals At 01:39 AM 06/05/2000 -0500, you wrote: > >Most all the late 80's and 90's have auto fluid or there own lube in the manuals. >I was told tolerances were closer in designs now and needed lighter oil to get >into the tight spaces. Also gives easier shifting at winter time. Even transfer cases >now have ATF in them. > "G" You are correct in that some t cases and manuals use ATF, however, be extremely careful if you have a newer vehicle and drain the fluid in either of these components. Just about all new vehicles, esp. trucks have a fluid designed for their application. I work at a dealership, and there are times we don't even have the right fluid for a manual or a t-case because there are so many out there... Some are regular gear grease with 5/10/15% friction modifier, and some are this stuff called "Auto trac fluid" which is blue from the factory, but red coming out of the bottle... strange, I know.... Just a note - be careful if you are looking for longevity! Brad ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 20:55:33 -0400 From: Brad Subject: Re: Transfering R12 between vehicles? At 10:54 AM 06/06/2000 EDT, you wrote: >I am again going to show my ignorance concerning A/C systems. > >I have two vehicles using R12, an 86 Volvo and a 73 F250. Both have partial >R12 charges. The Volvo's getting an R134A retrofit shortly. > >Here's the question. Using only a standard R12 manifold/gauge, can I >transfer the remaining R12 in the Volvo to the truck? That is, can I hook >the high side of the Volvo through the manifold to the low side of the truck, >start both engines, open the valves and thus evacuate the Volvo and recharge >the F250? > >Thanks in advance. > >Lee To be honest, I have never heard of anyone doing this, but I don't see why it wouldn't work... I would just do it very very slowly.. Good luck! Brad ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 21:09:59 -0400 From: Brad Subject: Re: GM At 03:39 PM 06/10/2000 -0500, you wrote: > >Scott H. writes: >> __gm__.com... > >Surely not!!!! > >Why not Scott... I worked for Chrysler(now DaimlerChrysler for 32 years, and just retired the last day of Aoril 2000... > > >Put your flamethrower back up. All have the priviledge and opportunity to love and drive Ford Trucks... > >Azie Magnusson >Ardmore, Al. > Ok, Ok.... I have to admit it.. I work for the bad guys... That's right I work at a Ch &y dealership.. and I laugh all the way to the bank... The way I see it is job security, and the cool thing is 4 of our 5 techs (we're a small dealership) are not only Ford drivers, but Ford nuts! It is really kinda cool, cause we talk some serious sh*t about those Che*&es... Brad 78 F150 4x4 429 92 Ranger Sport (I can't find the sport though) 2.3L 98 Mustang ------------------------------ From: "G & J Boling" Subject: Re: Transfering R12 between vehicles? Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 22:12:28 -0700 i just saw on the t bird list someone wanting to do this exact same thing and a member who is a A/C man says yes it can be done cant recall how tho gordon ---------- > From: Brad > To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com > Subject: [61-79-list] Re: Transfering R12 between vehicles? > Date: Tuesday, June 13, 2000 5:55 PM > > At 10:54 AM 06/06/2000 EDT, you wrote: > >I am again going to show my ignorance concerning A/C systems. > > > >I have two vehicles using R12, an 86 Volvo and a 73 F250. Both have partial > >R12 charges. The Volvo's getting an R134A retrofit shortly. > > > >Here's the question. Using only a standard R12 manifold/gauge, can I > >transfer the remaining R12 in the Volvo to the truck? That is, can I hook > >the high side of the Volvo through the manifold to the low side of the > truck, > >start both engines, open the valves and thus evacuate the Volvo and recharge > >the F250? > > > >Thanks in advance. > > > >Lee > > To be honest, I have never heard of anyone doing this, but I don't see why > it wouldn't work... I would just do it very very slowly.. > > Good luck! > > Brad > > > ========================================================== > To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ford-trucks.com with > the words "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the subject of the > message. > ------------------------------ From: "G & J Boling" Subject: Re: Wild Pinto's & Merc FE Valvecovers Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 22:25:23 -0700 Bet some of them were > blazingly fast though. . > Peace, J. Allison > ========================================= speaking of fast PINTOS we had one we stuck a 351 CLEVELAND into it it sure gave thos chevys a fit when we took of and left em.... To access the rest of this feature you must be a logged in Registered User Of Ford Truck Enthusiasts
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