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In This Issue:
Re: Want an exhaust system 4 my truck
Re: Want an exhaust system 4 my truck
1979 F150 2WD Exhaust System
ch*vies??????
Re: Want an exhaust system 4 my truck
Cruise o matics
Re: ch*vies??????
Re: 1979 F150 2WD Exhaust System
Re: ch*vies??????
'79 F-250 swap
'79 F-250 swap 2 (the sequel)
Re: Ford Trans I.D.
Re: Rancheros
Re: 64 Body trim ??
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Re: 64 Body trim ??
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Re: "subscribe list 61-79"
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Truck web site.
Carb Size
Re: 1979 F150 2WD Exhaust System
Re: Carb Size
Re: 390 cam/intake/carb
Re: E150 steel rims
Re: FMX Transmission
Re: E150 steel rims
Re: Degreeing a Cam
Re: FE swap.
Re: Carb Size

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From: "Phil & Debi" stargate.net>
Subject: Re: Want an exhaust system 4 my truck
Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 12:49:19 -0400



> We just bought a 70 F100 about 3 weeks ago with a 300 straight 6. Ours is
a
> short bed, side step.
> I do have a question though....this old truck....I don't think this is the
> right bed for it. It looks more like one off of a 50 era pickup. The
side
> rails aren't flat like on top on our 71 pickup...they're more at a 45
degree
> angle...does that make sense? Is there a web site that anyone knows of
that
> has a picture of what this truck bed is suppose to look like?

Look at my website www.geocities.com/imstobu My 70 F100 has the same bed as
yours. It is correct.

Phil Beattie
66 F100
70 F100
91 F150 4x4



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From: "sailpaul" email.msn.com>
Subject: Re: Want an exhaust system 4 my truck
Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 10:23:25 -0700

Phil and Debi
The flat rails are on the 73-79 series. The angled rail beds were used from
52? -72. Your 71 may not have the right year.I'll bet the box sides have an
inner well unlike the older one.
By chance did you buy this in Portland OR?
Paul
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>
>
> > We just bought a 70 F100 about 3 weeks ago with a 300 straight 6. Ours
is
> a
> > short bed, side step.
> > I do have a question though....this old truck....I don't think this is
the
> > right bed for it. It looks more like one off of a 50 era pickup. The
> side
> > rails aren't flat like on top on our 71 pickup...they're more at a 45
> degree
> > angle...does that make sense? Is there a web site that anyone knows of
> that
> > has a picture of what this truck bed is suppose to look like?
>
> Look at my website www.geocities.com/imstobu My 70 F100 has the same bed
as
> yours. It is correct.
>
> Phil Beattie
> 66 F100
> 70 F100
> 91 F150 4x4
>
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Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 14:10:24 -0400
From: bill poudrier ma.ultranet.com>
Subject: 1979 F150 2WD Exhaust System

Hi,

I am looking for a new exhaust system for my truck.

I sent the following to the support site for Holley/Hooker
for some help.

At 06:40 PM 6/5/00 -0400, you wrote:
>Sender : poudrier ma.ultranet.com
>Tracking Number : FLT2000060500000225114404
>Pool : flowtech
>---
>
>Folks,
>
> My vehicle 1979 F150 2WD Column shift C6 351M
> with A/C and aux gas tank 133" WB PS & PB
>
> I have been looking for a part number for a Hooker
>Exhaust system to replace the one on my truck. Every
>one that I find is for 4WD. The data from your web
>site is below.
>
>Bronco (4WD) 1978-79 351-400M 140, 160 16561* 16661* .
>F-150 (4WD) 1977-79 351-400M 140, 160 16561* 16661* .
>F-250 Low Profile,F-350 (4WD) 1977-1/2-79 351-400M 140, 160 16561* 16661* .
>
>Is it possible that this system can be used on a 2WD
>vehicle. Also these systems all run down the right
>side of the vehicle. I assume that this is done to
>clear the auxilliary gas tank (which I have as well).
>
>I plan to replace the motor with a 400 and install
>headers, therefore my need. Your advice will be
>appreciated.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Bill
>

I received the following answer from them:

> We do not offer an exhaust system for a two wheel drive.
> Thanks,

Can anone tell me what is is radically different on a 4WD vs 2WD?
Obviously Hooker cannot answer me.

Thanks in advance,

Bill






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Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 11:14:21 -0700
From: scott ford-trucks.com>
Subject: ch*vies??????

>>>>>>ah, I was just teasin'. as a matter of fact, I need to buy a truck pretty quick here, and I've narrowed it to a chevy 1500 or a chevy 'burban. no special chevy thing, I just need a truck

If you need a TRUCK,why are you looking at ch*vies???????

>>>>>>and I can't find an older f100
within 100 miles, so I gotta go with what's here.

Lots off ch*vies for sale,but no Fords? That should tell you something.
Nobody wants to sell thier Ford.

>>>>>anyhow, anybody know of a _chevy_ trucks list to get help on these things?

Take your time,find a real truck and stay on this list.

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From: "Laura Spencer" junct.com>
Subject: Re: Want an exhaust system 4 my truck
Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 13:13:52 -0500

Phil,
Thank you. Your little 70 looks just like ours! Ours is a burgundy color
though, and it doesn't have a tail gate yet. The wood in the bed was all
rotted out. We just got it replaced. The metal strips that goes between
the slates were gone too. We still have to get those....We need a grill for
it too. We've found one for 50.00 so that's next on the list.
It has a granny 4 speed in it. That's about the only thing that I don't
like about it. If I don't drive it like I'm mad at it, it won't hardly go
into gear sometimes. It's aggravating. I'd a lot rather have a good 3
speed.
Laura


----- Original Message -----
From: "Phil & Debi" stargate.net>
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Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2000 11:49 AM
Subject: [61-79-list] Re: Want an exhaust system 4 my truck



> Look at my website www.geocities.com/imstobu My 70 F100 has the same bed
as
> yours. It is correct.
>
> Phil Beattie
> 66 F100
> 70 F100
> 91 F150 4x4



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From: "Azie L. Magnusson" HiWAAY.net>
Subject: Cruise o matics
Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 13:18:41 -0500


Phil De S. writes: >> Gotta be careful calling a Ford 3-speed auto a "Cruise-0-Matic. Ford called
em all that at one time or another, even though they weren't the "same"
transmission. (FMX, C-4, C-6) True the cast iron case's bellhousing
(FMX,etc.) IS different then a C-4's. But they could both be called a
"Cruise-0-Matic". Better to stick with the actual designation.
Don't have to worry about the removable bell housing on the others though.
:-) Later, Phil


<<

Thank you Phil.. Been trying to say that for two days now.

Azie Magnusson
Ardmore, Al.


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From: "sailpaul" email.msn.com>
Subject: Re: ch*vies??????
Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 11:24:45 -0700

Who is looking for a chevy??
Try http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://67-72chevytrucks.com/ Let me know what you think?!
Paul

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To: <61-79-list ford-trucks.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2000 11:14 AM
Subject: [61-79-list] ch*vies??????


> >>>>>>ah, I was just teasin'. as a matter of fact, I need to buy a truck
pretty quick here, and I've narrowed it to a chevy 1500 or a chevy
'burban. no special chevy thing, I just need a truck
>
> If you need a TRUCK,why are you looking at ch*vies???????
>
> >>>>>>and I can't find an older f100
> within 100 miles, so I gotta go with what's here.
>
> Lots off ch*vies for sale,but no Fords? That should tell you something.
> Nobody wants to sell thier Ford.
>
> >>>>>anyhow, anybody know of a _chevy_ trucks list to get help on these
things?
>
> Take your time,find a real truck and stay on this list.
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From: "G & J Boling" alltel.net>
Subject: Re: 1979 F150 2WD Exhaust System
Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 14:46:59 -0400


> I received the following answer from them:
>
> > We do not offer an exhaust system for a two wheel drive.
> > Thanks,
>
> Can anone tell me what is is radically different on a 4WD vs 2WD?
> Obviously Hooker cannot answer me.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Bill
==========================================================
try DYNOMAX headers a friend i have says he just bought a set for a 2 wheel
drive truck from them and they fit perfectly
from what i know of them the headers are pretty much the same EXCEPT the
4x4s are longer to clear the transfer case is all
at one time HOOKER was the best you could buy BUT no anymore it seems they
rust out faster and are built cheaper it seems i have seen a few sets that
looked to be made out of allot thinner tubing than the others are
gordon


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Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 15:31:39 -0400 (EDT)
From: Scott Hall garnet.acns.fsu.edu>
Subject: Re: ch*vies??????

On Sun, 11 Jun 2000, scott wrote:

> >>>>>>ah, I was just teasin'. as a matter of fact, I need to buy a truck pretty quick here, and I've narrowed it to a chevy 1500 or a chevy 'burban. no special chevy thing, I just need a truck
>
> If you need a TRUCK,why are you looking at ch*vies???????

;-)

> >>>>>>and I can't find an older f100
> within 100 miles, so I gotta go with what's here.
>
> Lots off ch*vies for sale,but no Fords? That should tell you something.
> Nobody wants to sell thier Ford.

plenty o' fords for sale, but I was looking for: below ~$3000, no major
engine work needed right away, and a/c. I found one truck (for
$4000--I'm flexible) that meets that: a chevy 1500 (or something like
that). lots of trucks for sale here (of all brands) but most are newish,
or are the $15000 trailer queen restos. there's an f150 I saw just today,
but it's ~$6500 (a '91, I think). I just need something cheap and
driveable, and I needed it last month. the '67 $500 f100 wasn't even
worth the gas to haul it away--more rust than truck. a real shame, 'cause
that's the exact truck I wanted...

there's also a _way_ overpriced 351c-powered '60-something. wants $7500.
I'd think closer to $2500, it looks pretty foul all around.

> >>>>>anyhow, anybody know of a _chevy_ trucks list to get help on these things?
>
> Take your time,find a real truck and stay on this list.

I'd love, to man...know of a way to get the truck I found in denver to me,
free? me neither... :-(

alternatively, anybody on the list in denver and wanna go eyeball this
thing to see if it's worth it?

scott


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From: SpeedyFords cs.com
Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 18:49:37 EDT
Subject: '79 F-250 swap





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Hello all,
Although I'm up to my eyeballs in my '67 F-100 frame-off resto project, I've
just (perhaps foolishly) jumped into a new project that I hope you can help
me with. I just acquired a nice '79 f-250 supercab 2wd and a '78 f-250
supercab 4wd (beater). My goal is obvious: I must have the '79 in 4wd trim
eventually. The '79 has 460/c-6 PS, PB, A/C, etc., while the '78 4X4 has
400/c-6/NP203(yuk!),PS,PB,etc.. I'd like to use the 460 in the finished
product. It seems like Gary or someone on the list has done this body/frame
swap before. What will be my biggest headache here? I seem to recall that
the 460 bolts to the 400 bellhousing w/ no problem but are the flexplates
and/or converters the same?
Will the steering column from the 2wd work with the 4wd linkage? It looks
like it'll swap over pretty easy but then so have many things in the past
that turned out to be major messes. All input will be greatly appreciated.
Now, does anyone here in the Anchorage area want a beat-up but free bed and
cab,doors, fenders, etc. from a '78? The catch is that you have to take it
all :^>
It's going to the crusher at the end of June. E-mail me off-list if
interested.
Thanks,
Tim in Anchorage
'67 F-100 (Lunar green and growing) SWMBO's nemesis
'79 F-250 SC 4wd wannabe
'78 F-250 SC source-matter



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From: IanBoss69aol.com
Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 19:07:39 EDT
Subject: '79 F-250 swap 2 (the sequel)

Well, the plan is,,,,,maybe,,,not for sure yet,,,,to swap in a 460 into my
truck, in place of the 351M, and the second swap option I'm going to attempt,
maybe fail,,who knows,,,,,is to graft a 92-up body/bed onto my frame without
the computer/efi/emmissions crap on it,,,,custom interior lifted a bit with
35's or 38's on it,,,,,maybe a roll bar and some paint,,,,we'll have a nifty
"new" truck, I already know the bed will fit as is, but the
cab/fenders/radiator support may need a bit of fabrication for the
mounts,,,,get out the plasma cutter and the welder and go at it I guess,
we'll either get it to work or have fun trying, :-) that's it for now, lemme
know if you guys think I'm completely insane

Ian
79 F250 4x4 4spd 351M
True Blue Ford Blue

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From: "Desanto, Phillip" Cinergy.com>
Subject: Re: Ford Trans I.D.
Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 19:05:19 -0400

Azie said- Cruise-0-matic was a generic term used in advertising
literature for automatics during some years that are a part of the period
covered by this list. Cruise-0-matic (Merc-0-matic and Ford-0-matic) could
have referred to the earlier automatics as well as the FMX and maybe even
the earlier versions of C-4 and C-6. Azie
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------------------------
I think the term "Cruise-0-Matic" was just Fordspeak for an automatic at
the time. The Ford-0-Matic was a 2 speed. And the Merc-0-Matic was .....well
a..... you know. Thankfully they dropped THAT one. Given the names of some
of the other transmissions of the era, I guess WE got off easy, huh? :-)
Sure makes in interesting doesn't it?
Later, Phil

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Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 22:33:31 -0400
From: "Don Haring, Jr." fedora.net>
Subject: Re: Rancheros

Tim and Pam Allgire williams-net.com> said:
> Check out the falcon club of america.they do have a web site.

Al Evitts brightok.net> said:
>>Does anyone know if there is a list devoted to Rancheros? I know they
>>have a national club. I am looking at a 65 and would like to share
>>other's experience.


FCA is at http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.falconclub.com. There is probably a local chapter near
you. Rancheros (1960-1966) are definitely an integral part of the club,
basically being a Falcon with a bed.

-don

--
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66 Falcon Deluxe Club Wagon (daily driver)
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From: WEDIVE247aol.com
Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 22:35:30 EDT
Subject: Re: 64 Body trim ??

In a message dated 6/6/2000 10:22:03 PM EST, Natp244cs.com writes:

<< I gathered from your
question that you are looking for trim for your 64. www.oldfordpart.com has
NOS box trim (doesn't say if it is LWB or SWB) for $200/pr, and cowl trim
for
$100/pr. Pricey, but they are hard to find

Nate >>

Hey Nate,
Thanks for the info , but I tried the address and
couldn't find the site . You sure about the address ? I did try to put a S at
the end of "part" and the site was under construction ? Please let me know if
you come up with another address . Thanks alot .

Steve

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From: Natp244cs.com
Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 22:54:26 EDT
Subject: Re: 64 Body trim ??

In a message dated 6/11/00 9:36:31 PM Central Daylight Time,
WEDIVE247aol.com writes:

<< Hey Nate,
Thanks for the info , but I tried the address and
couldn't find the site . You sure about the address ? I did try to put a S
at
the end of "part" and the site was under construction ? Please let me know
if
you come up with another address . Thanks alot .

Steve >>


OOPS! I did give you the wrong one. it should be
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.fordoldpart.com
sorry for the mix-up. Good luck in your search

Nate

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From: JJJJJGRANTaol.com
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 00:20:49 EDT
Subject: parts for sale

a friend of mine just aquired a bunch of excess parts, he's is getting me a
list of the left overs he's not going to use. but he did mention the
following, all of it is 429-460 stuff.
DOVE heads 70 model 460 heads100.00
D2OE heads police interceptor heads 250.00
tans dapt motor mounts 460/78-79 truck 100.00
NP205 transfer case for automatic 100.00
429 short block,needs rebuilding 150.00
460 shortblock, needs rebuilding 150.00
edlebrock valve covers (new) 40.00

if anyone is interested email me direct.

jeff grant


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From: prozelloaielectronics.com (OAI Electronics: Paul Rozell)
Subject: Truck web site.
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 08:27:44 -0500

Hi All,
this web site was just sent to my by my brother, thought I might pass it
along to everyone else. The link is as follows
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.northernclassictrucks.com


Paul Rozell
65 F100 460 C6
96 F150 SC 5.0


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From: mikeliltoot.com
Subject: Carb Size
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 10:26:08 -0400

I'm following the thread on the carb and am a little confused by the formula
to determine carb size. I have a 76' bronco with a 302 and was considering
putting on an EdellBrock Performace package on it. The package includes a
600 CFM carb. By the formula on this thread though, that is way too much
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From: "wish" ford-trucks.net>
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 13:42:41 GMT
Subject: Re: 1979 F150 2WD Exhaust System

>
>Can anone tell me what is is radically different on a 4WD vs 2WD?
>Obviously Hooker cannot answer me.
>

Sometimes the frame rails are in different places to provide bracing for the
front axle pivots and such. Likely Hooker just doesn't want to take the time
to try and see what happens ....

Just my $.02
wish

96 Mustang GT 5spd 4.6L
73ish 1/2ton 4x4 6.4L
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Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 09:45:17 -0500
From: Craig Cantrell kscable.com>
Subject: Re: Carb Size

Don't be. The 1406 (600 CFM w/elec choke) is the perfect choice for the 302. You
can change metering rods and jets easily if you need too, but I bet it'll be
just about right out of the box. For street, you might want to consider the
Performer manifold to go under it.

mikeliltoot.com wrote:

> I'm following the thread on the carb and am a little confused by the formula
> to determine carb size. I have a 76' bronco with a 302 and was considering
> putting on an EdellBrock Performace package on it. The package includes a
> 600 CFM carb. By the formula on this thread though, that is way too much
> carb.
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From: "wish" ford-trucks.net>
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 13:47:29 GMT
Subject: Re: 390 cam/intake/carb

>> the 600cfm carb I've got on it ... I could go to a 625 or something, but
>that
>> doesn't increase the airflow.
>
>Wouldn't the air flow be increased exactly 25 CFM?

Yeah what I said didn't really make sense, what I meant was that the bore size
is the same, all they change is the jet size in the middle ... at least that's
what I've been told ...

>Wouldn't the increased venturi size reduce the vacuum signal resulting in
>decreased throttle response?
>

Possibly ... but that's a compromise you're going to have to make to optimize
one portion of your motor. The whole build is going to be some compromises,
low end torque or high end horsepower, its your choice ...

I think there's also some debate as to "slightly modified" and what it means
...

Just my $.02
wish

96 Mustang GT 5spd 4.6L
73ish 1/2ton 4x4 6.4L
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From: "wish" ford-trucks.net>
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 13:49:28 GMT
Subject: Re: E150 steel rims



>Folks,
>Today crawling in traffic I looked over into the next lane and noticed
>something I hadn't before. This 90's E150 commercial van had the normal
>dog dish hub caps, but the Ford steel wheels were different. They have
>oval or rectangular ventilation holes cut all around the rim; 10-20 of
>them. Always vigilant for cool steelies for the hubcap/trim ring look,
>I wonder if these would fit my '75?

Hmmm, I've seen these on newer vans, so I'm afraid they're probably setup for
the 97+ F-series, same bolt pattern, difference centering mechanism is my understanding
of it .. so they'll bolt up, but might not be centered on the axle (so they'll
drive like a kid's toy with bent axles)

Just my $.02
wish

96 Mustang GT 5spd 4.6L
73ish 1/2ton 4x4 6.4L
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From: "wish" ford-trucks.net>
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 13:51:36 GMT
Subject: Re: FMX Transmission

>that can be selected into low but to hold it into 2nd you have
>to wind it out in low shift into drive then pull it back into low to hold it

>in 2nd BUT if you go below a certain speed it will kick itself back into 1st


This is typical of an AOD if I remember right. But be warned, doing this too
much will burn up clutches in there ... those of us that auto-x live and die
by 2nd gear, and those with AOD's are always cussing the fact that they have
to lock it as you described. One guy I know just uses 1st and runs to 6,000rpm's
on his 5.0 regularly so he doesn't "need" 2nd most of the time.

Just my $.02
wish

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From: "Southerland, Rich" alldata.com>
Subject: Re: E150 steel rims
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 07:52:21 -0700

I've been told by numerous people that '99-down E150 wheels will bolt onto
our older 1/2 ton vans/trucks. The F150 changed bolt patterns when it was
redesigned in '97, but the E150 did not. Don't know if the '00 E150 wheels
will fit or not.

I suspect they're 7". Stock tire is probably a 235/75/15.

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From: Brett L Habben [mailto:bhabbenjuno.com]
Sent: Friday, June 09, 2000 5:54 PM
To: 61-79-listford-trucks.com
Subject: [61-79-list] E150 steel rims


Folks,
Today crawling in traffic I looked over into the next lane and noticed
something I hadn't before. This 90's E150 commercial van had the normal
dog dish hub caps, but the Ford steel wheels were different. They have
oval or rectangular ventilation holes cut all around the rim; 10-20 of
them. Always vigilant for cool steelies for the hubcap/trim ring look,
I wonder if these would fit my '75? Anybody know? What width would
these be?
Thanks,
Brett
Super75cab
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From: "wish" ford-trucks.net>
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 13:53:02 GMT
Subject: Re: Degreeing a Cam



>When it it necessary to degree a camshaft? I have always just lined up the

>marks on the cam and crankshaft timing gears and have had no problem. I have

>read several places that you should use like components do that degreeing is

>not necessary. Can anybody enlighten me?

The answer everyone gives is that you should always degree a cam, this will
double check that it has been ground right, put in the correct box and is correct
for your application ... I didn't degree mine though, and Dad didn't degree
his when he put it in either and they worked fine for us.

Just my $.02
wish

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From: "wish" ford-trucks.net>
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 13:59:54 GMT
Subject: Re: FE swap.



>If the industrial 390 is anything like the FT engines,

This I don't know, not sure which way it comes out ...

>FT tranny and balancer, or he'll have to have the flywheel flange machined

>thinner

Thinner ? as in diameter or truly thickness ? Since he runs a machine shop
I'm not sure this is really a deterrant for him. I don't remember if he's got
a manual or an auto, but there's a flywheel on the motor with some adapter bolted
to it to connect it to the pumps. I'm curious as to why an FT application clutch
wouldn't solve the problem of it mating up, or would that have such a big ring
gear that it wouldn't fit in the bellhousing ?


> and have the crank snout turned down to match an FE.

He's got the balancer for the motor, they just unbolted it from a corn picker
and pulled it out, everything's there it looks like.


> Almost all FT's
>had a larger oil pump drive shaft, along with matching sized distributors
>and oil pumps. Also, the distributor guide hole in the block of most FT's is

>larger than FE's. If he wants electronic ignition, it looks to me like the

>Pertronics conversion would be the way to go.

So even the distributor on the inside has a bigger diameter shaft, so swapping
the "guts" from a duraspark unit wouldn't convert it over ?

>By the way, has he measured the bore and stroke of this industrial FE/FT/?

>yet? I know a guy who bought an old irrigation pump engine(FE) that had
>cross bolted mains, but it only had the 4.05" bore.

That is all a 390 will have for a bore ... 4.05x3.7x for a 390 and 4.05x3.5x
for a 360 ... off the top of my head anyway....

> It had FT heads on it
>with dished pistons for a compression ratio of just a bit over 8 to 1.

Isn't this typical of all 72 or so and later FE motor's ? I know my 390 when
I pulled it apart had huge dishes in the pistons and were labelled as 410 pistons.


He's putting this in an F350 with a GVW of 12,000 lbs ... so I don't think using
FT heads and such to up that low end grunt will really hurt him any ...

Just my $.02
wish

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From: "Tim and Pam Allgire" williams-net.com>
Subject: Re: Carb Size
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 12:02:19 -0400

The 600 carb should work real good on a 302. I would say thay a 650 would be
about max that would want to use on a 302.Usually the Edelbrock kits are a
matched set so they work great together.
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Date: Monday, June 12, 2000 10:31 AM
Subject: [61-79-list] Carb Size


>I'm following the thread on the carb and am a little confused by the
formula
>to determine carb size. I have a 76' bronco with a 302 and was considering
>putting on an EdellBrock Performace package on it. The package includes a
>600 CFM carb. By the formula on this thread though, that is way too much
>carb.
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