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61-79-list Digest Sun, 21 May 2000 Volume: 2000 Issue: 105

In This Issue:
CD factory manual for old trucks
trimming posts
SuperNats
Re: SuperNats
Re: SuperNats
swapping engine parts'78 302 to'88 5.0
Re: SuperNats
Re: swapping engine parts'78 302 to'88 5.0
Re: drums and shoes

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From: "Redden" enter.net>
Subject: CD factory manual for old trucks
Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 10:52:43 -0400

Detroit Iron has them: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://216.62.60.89/detroitiron/MainFrame.htm

$50 for the '69 Ford Truck

mike



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Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 08:15:25 -0700
From: Don Grossman mac.com>
Subject: trimming posts

Sorry to post a message to the list not pertaining to Ford trucks,
but could we go back to checking our replies and trimming them a
little. Several of the last post I have received were short replies
and mostly quoted material.

Thank you
--
Don Grossman
duckdon mac.com

43 GPW
63 F-100 4x4
77 F250
99 Contour

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Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 16:07:37 -0400
From: Garry Bowling bellsouth.net>
Subject: SuperNats

Well another SuperNats has come and gone. It was great to see some old
friends and make new ones. I saw Ken, Keith, Stu and Don there. I of
course took my truck again and had a blast. The parade was great and
that is what makes the show. There were plenty of great trucks and lots
of parts available. Can't wait to next year. For those who haven't seen
Stu's truck it is cherry. For those who don't know there is going to be
an all Ford show here in Louisville, KY on 17, 18, 19 September. I plan
to have my truck there.
Garry
67 F100


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Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 20:10:42 -0500
From: Stu Varner ford-trucks.com>
Subject: Re: SuperNats

At 04:07 PM 5/21/00 -0400, you wrote:
>Well another SuperNats has come and gone. It was great to see some old
>friends and make new ones. I saw Ken, Keith, Stu and Don there. I of
>course took my truck again and had a blast. The parade was great and
>that is what makes the show. There were plenty of great trucks and lots
>of parts available. Can't wait to next year. For those who haven't seen
>Stu's truck it is cherry. For those who don't know there is going to be
>an all Ford show here in Louisville, KY on 17, 18, 19 September. I plan
>to have my truck there.

I have to second what Gary B said......and........Guys(and gals), I have
one bit of advice for you. Build your trucks
and take them to PF!!!!!!!! One of the top 5 experinces of my life! It
will take years to wipe the smile off my face!!!
(ask Keith!!) The parade was second to none and I was honored to have Ken
Payne and Keith Srb ride along with my family and friends in the BIGGEST
parade of Effies in the world!

(can you tell I am pumped??)

THAT SHOW WAS THE BEST!!!!!!!!!

See ya'll next year!, Maybe then it will be with the '68 instead of the '71.

BTW- The fully restored (and unmolested) 1971 F-100 4x4 is for sale if you
are serious about owning one that is brand new.
Momma says one toy and I really want to build the '68 in the shop awfully bad.
Email me off list if intersted.

It was great to see everyone again - until next year!

NUKE GM!!!!!



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From: WEDIVE247 aol.com
Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 22:35:55 EDT
Subject: Re: SuperNats

In a message dated 5/21/2000 8:09:32 PM EST, nukegm ford-trucks.com writes:

< < THAT SHOW WAS THE BEST!!!!!!!!! > >

I only had one small problem with the super-nats .........Now I really know
how much more work I have to do to my 64 . Thanks !!! Honestly the best
showing of trucks I 've ever seen ! I was really suprised at the amount of
65-66's there and equally suprised at the lack of 64 's . But just the same I
got alot of great pictures to savor and ideas to aply to my own truck . If
any of you guys missed the show , tooooo baaaaad......
TRY TO MAKE IT NEXT YEAR FORSURE !!!!!!!!

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Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 00:34:43 -0400
From: patrick j mahoney netzero.net>
Subject: swapping engine parts'78 302 to'88 5.0

A couple questions on manifolds & hang-ons. Firstly, in checking parts
catalogs
I never noticed much on the year of mfgr. being important for intakes
(aftermarket
performance types) and want to pull the F/Inj. junk off the 5.0 and
install a Weiand
manifold & Holley 750 in it's place and use this mill till I get the 302
pumped up
and ready to go back in my '78 F-100 Custom project. Will I have any
problems
with bolt or port alignments ? Also I noticed when I did the last tune
up on the 302
that the spark plugs I got didn't fit ( too small) I checked around till
I found someone
who didn't use a computer to figure out what he was looking at, and he
told me that the large plugs went in around '84 to improve heat
rejection and reduce fouling. Is this true? If so I either got newer
than '78 heads, or a rebuilt instead of the original
engine. Any help on this would be appreciated.

Knucklebuster,

pjmahoney netzero.net

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From: EffieFrd aol.com
Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 01:08:43 EDT
Subject: Re: SuperNats

In a message dated 5/21/00 4:13:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
garrya bellsouth.net writes:

<< It was great to see some old
friends and make new ones. >>

Sure was. Good to put some faces with names. And now y'all know the cool
chic with the '65. :o) I had a blast. Wish I could have got there sooner
than Saturday...oh well. There's always next year. :o)


~Mel
1965 F100
1989 Bronco

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From: SevnD2aol.com
Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 01:36:55 EDT
Subject: Re: swapping engine parts'78 302 to'88 5.0

In a message dated 05/22/2000 12:25:46 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
pjmahoneynetzero.net writes:

<< I found someone
who didn't use a computer to figure out what he was looking at, and he
told me that the large plugs went in around '84 to improve heat
rejection and reduce fouling. Is this true? >>

I had a 72 302 with the larger size plugs. This engine was in a car, so I
can't say about truck engines.

Hope this helps.

Rollie H. Hunt

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From: "wish" ford-trucks.net>
Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 14:15:56 GMT
Subject: Re: drums and shoes

>Wish replied:
>> This is absolutely correct ... they are labelled as such because the primary

>> is pulled into the drum by the rotation of the drum, and the secondary is
pushed
>> away because of the rotation, this means more surface area is required on
the
>> secondary to equal the same stopping force as the primary.
>
>This is just the reverse from how I learned it. The primary (larger) shoe
is the
>"anchored" shoe.

Except the primary is the smaller one, and they're labelled as such ... as
for "anchored" that is something I've never seen, apparently all the one's I
work with are different than the one's you guys are talkin about as mine have
all had a pin on the bottom that acted as a pivot and then the wheel cylinder
at the top had 2 levers on it, one for either shoe, and they both moved (don't
ever do that with the drum off either!)


>The reason for the different sizes is that the primary shoe contacts the drum
with a bit
>more pressure and friction. It is larger to compensate for the greater wear

>that would occur if it weren't larger, the purpose being that both shoes wear
out
>at the same time.
>

Are we talkin larger thickness, or larger as in actual padded surface. We spent
WEEKS on this in my design class, and I can go grab the equations here to prove
the things out if you like, but they are different lengths of material to equate
the force applied to the drum ...

Just my $.02
wish

96 Mustang GT 5spd 4.6L
73ish 1/2ton 4x4 6.4L
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