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61-79-list-digest Friday, December 17 1999 Volume 03 : Number 463



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In this issue:

RE: FTE 61-79 - For sale on E-bay
FTE 61-79 - plug wires
RE: FTE 61-79 - 460 rebuilt (long)
RE: FTE 61-79 - Boring
RE: FTE 61-79 - plug wires
RE: FTE 61-79 - headers and cherry bombs
RE: FTE 61-79 - poping Carb.
RE: FTE 61-79 - F-350 HUBs
Re: FTE 61-79 - FE "Shorties"/motor mounts
Re: FTE 61-79 - poping Carb.
FTE 61-79 - Ox runs rings around John
Re: FTE 61-79 - lost my tail lights
Re: FTE 61-79 - 460 rebuilt (long)
Re: FTE 61-79 - Ox runs rings around John
FTE 61-79 - weird sights
RE: FTE 61-79 - FE "Shorties"/motor mounts
RE: FTE 61-79 - Ox runs rings around John
RE: FTE 61-79 - lost my tail lights
RE: FTE 61-79 - weird sights
Re: FTE 61-79 - Ox runs rings around John
Re: FTE 61-79 - weird sights
Re: FTE 61-79 - Ox runs rings around John
RE: FTE 61-79 - Ox runs rings around John
Re: FTE 61-79 - power steering
Re: FTE 61-79 - power steering
RE: FTE 61-79 - headers for 400
Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: Spare tire carrier ???
FTE 61-79 - Re: Dirty Oil
Re: FTE 61-79 - Ox runs rings around John
Re: FTE 61-79 - headers for 400
RE: FTE 61-79 - Ox runs rings around John
Re: FTE 61-79 - weird sights
Re: FTE 61-79 - Ox runs rings around John
Re: FTE 61-79 - Ox runs rings around John
FTE 61-79 - Re: Central Florida List Members
Re: FTE 61-79 - power steering
Re: FTE 61-79 - Ox runs rings around John
Re: FTE 61-79 - weird sights
Re: FTE 61-79 - 2x4 cab mounts
FTE 61-79 - headlight parts
FTE 61-79 - popping carb
FTE 61-79 - power steering conversion
Re: FTE 61-79 - power steering conversion
FTE 61-79 - 78 250 van parts for 460 swap

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Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 14:35:31 -0500
From: Marvin Meyer
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - For sale on E-bay

For $10 000 that's $14 760 CDN, Too much, but your right it's a beauty!
meyer strat.net

what a find!! dosen't beat out my '68 rat in the mileage
department (13,780) ;) but sure takes top honors in the clean
and neat catagory!! someone's getting a keeper!!



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Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 11:42:29 -0800 (PST)
From: rich may
Subject: FTE 61-79 - plug wires

Is it good that my spark plug wires were zip-tied
together? I was changing the header gaskets yesterday
and I noticed that they were laying all over each
other. Shoud I buy some of those wire looms? Could
these wires touching be hurting my performance?

Thanks

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Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 14:42:22 -0500
From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - 460 rebuilt (long)

Sounds real good Bill but I question the rpm range you specified? The 460
with that cam will be pretty happy at lower rpms at 60 and will get better
economy too. With the wide ratio gear box I'd shoot for 1900 at 60 or 2000
at most which is right at the bottom of the grunt band leaving you lots of
room for passing etc... I often wish mine wouldn't shift when I mash it, it
actually builds speed faster using it's bottom end grunt :-)

- --
Michigan, Pot Hole Jumping,
78 Bronco Loving, Gary
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.thewowfactor.com/bigbroncos/detail.cfm?detailid=167
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> My truck is a 77 F150 460 with a C-6, with I believe 3.25
> rear gear
> and stock tires. Again what I want is a truck that gets
> around 10 mpg,
> cruises at 65 in the 2300-2600 rpm range with more power then I know
> what to do with. I will be towing on occasion but not
> frequently, this
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Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 14:46:14 -0500
From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Boring

Ok.....I'll let you slide this time :-) When you check the bore, check
several places up and down and around to verify out of round and taper.
This will help you make a good decision on the approach to take. I
personally do not like the idea of oversized rings but some do have good
luck with them.

I don't recall any stipulation about taper and moly rings but certainly less
taper is better than more in any case :-)

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Michigan, Pot Hole Jumping,
78 Bronco Loving, Gary
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.thewowfactor.com/bigbroncos/detail.cfm?detailid=167
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> > What are you measuring it with? I'll save the lecture till
> I get the answer
> > :-)
> >
>
> El-cheapo caliper. I know it's virtually useless, but it's all I have
> right now and I'm more intersted in comparing the pistons I
> had with the
> pistons I'm going to use. If the old one's didn't slap, the
> "new" one's
> shouldn't either.
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Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 14:54:53 -0500
From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - plug wires

If they are relatively new and in good condition I wouldn't worry about it.
Mine have been tied to the brake lines for two years with no troubles :-)
Couldn't find ready made looms for 9mm wires so opted to just tie them up
out of the way :-) Now two of them are from an old 460 lying on my barn
floor :-( Still runs well even with the old wires on there :-)

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Michigan, Pot Hole Jumping,
78 Bronco Loving, Gary
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.thewowfactor.com/bigbroncos/detail.cfm?detailid=167
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> Is it good that my spark plug wires were zip-tied
> together? I was changing the header gaskets yesterday
> and I noticed that they were laying all over each
> other. Shoud I buy some of those wire looms? Could
> these wires touching be hurting my performance?
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Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 15:03:33 -0500
From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - headers and cherry bombs

My understanding of the purpose of the balance tube is that it allows both
banks to have the same pulse timing to even out the flow which improves
scavenging. We all know that the best solution is to have some pipes going
over the top of the engine to connect to the other bank to make the pulese
exactly timed. Indy cars use this method. The balance tube is supposed to
be a less effective second choice to do the same thing.

I love the way you said "when first installed" :-) Brings back old memories
of a Florida bronco nut who espouses Cherry bombs, fully packed with oil
before installing.....:-) Ox knows who I mean :-)

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Michigan, Pot Hole Jumping,
78 Bronco Loving, Gary
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> The el cheapo after market restrictive standard mufflers
> always cause a drop
> in performance when they are first installed. IMNSHO, you want a free
> flowing outbound, limited flowing inbound system. You will
> also get better
> flow from true duals without a balance tube. Now before you
> light the flame
> throwers, I said better flow, not necessarily better performance.
>
> -- John
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Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 15:04:58 -0500
From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - poping Carb.

Could simply be the choke but cold engines valves don't seal as well either
once they get worn so it could be the intake valves too.

- --
Michigan, Pot Hole Jumping,
78 Bronco Loving, Gary
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.thewowfactor.com/bigbroncos/detail.cfm?detailid=167
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> No not all the time, it seems to do it only when the engine is cold.
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Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 15:09:38 -0500
From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - F-350 HUBs

Can only think of one reason lugs would become loose in the hubs......you
are not tightening the lug nuts well enough for the use the machine is
getting. If they tap in tight they should stay tight. They obviously rely
on the lug nuts to keep the wheel from influencing them to the degree that
they are moving in their holes in the hubs. When properly tightened and the
wheels properly installed on a hub designed for them there should be no
forces on the lugs except shear and zero leverage to wiggle the lugs. Are
you using some kind of a spacer?

- --
Michigan, Pot Hole Jumping,
78 Bronco Loving, Gary
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.thewowfactor.com/bigbroncos/detail.cfm?detailid=167
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> Hey club it's me again, I am having trouble with my front
> Hubs again. I have
> >a 1971 F-350 about a year ago or about 4000 miles my right
> front hub lugs
> >became loose I found some on a 73 van that worked well now
> the left side is
> >doing the same thing needless to say the van only had one on
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Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 16:04:04 -0500
From: "G.T. Herpich"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - FE "Shorties"/motor mounts

CJ, That site is computer and web services.

I didn't know anyone made shorty tube headers. Any idea where I could get some
info on Sandersons?

George



BDIJXS aol.com wrote:

> Hey George,
>
> Let me know when if you decide to go with new shorties.....there is only
> really one choice, Sandersons, and they work great.....
>
> There are a few tricks on getting them in. "Mark in Southwest Washington" has
> done a real nice job on making a web page that outlines the installation of
> the Sandersons, and it has several photos. I haven't seen any posts from him
> in a while, so I hope he is still with us!
>
> The website was www.pacifier.com....
>
> Good Luck!
>
> CJ
>
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Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 16:04:31 EST
From: SevnD2 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - poping Carb.

The problem could just be inside the distributor cap . Moister in there can
do exactly what you have described . I have had one with this problem . The
moister was coming from when the weather changed from colder to warmer moist
air . Water collected on the engine and thus the problem began .
Could just be arcing because of an unseen electrical path in your ignition
system .
Hope this helps .
Rollie
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Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 15:13:24 -0600
From: "John LaGrone"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Ox runs rings around John

>> I guess all I can say is HUH?? to your whole post.
>>Doesn't the bore taper have to dead nuts to use moly rings?

Huh?? The dead nuts is what threw me. Does that mean non existant?

- -- John
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1979 F150 Custom LWB Regular Cab 351M C6 (Henry)
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Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 16:15:23 -0500
From: "G.T. Herpich"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - lost my tail lights

I don't know if anyone mentioned this but if you have a trailer light
plug check out how it was installed. I've seen some real butcher jobs
there. Some of the quicky splice jobs cause problems.

George

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Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 14:15:55 -0700
From: William A Whited
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 460 rebuilt (long)

Gary, Thanks you are right, I was just pulling some numbers from you know where
to get it posted so I could get some feedback quickly. By the way my nickname
comes from my middle name not 1st, so William is fine, but Bill I know no harm
was meant (no offense to the other Bill's out there).

"Peters, Gary (G.R.)" wrote:

> Sounds real good Bill but I question the rpm range you specified? The 460
> with that cam will be pretty happy at lower rpms at 60 and will get better
> economy too. With the wide ratio gear box I'd shoot for 1900 at 60 or 2000
> at most which is right at the bottom of the grunt band leaving you lots of
> room for passing etc... I often wish mine wouldn't shift when I mash it, it
> actually builds speed faster using it's bottom end grunt :-)
>
> --
> Michigan, Pot Hole Jumping,
> 78 Bronco Loving, Gary
> http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.thewowfactor.com/bigbroncos/detail.cfm?detailid=167
> --
>
> > My truck is a 77 F150 460 with a C-6, with I believe 3.25
> > rear gear
> > and stock tires. Again what I want is a truck that gets
> > around 10 mpg,
> > cruises at 65 in the 2300-2600 rpm range with more power then I know
> > what to do with. I will be towing on occasion but not
> > frequently, this
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William A Whited
74 F100 RANGER SUPERCAB 390
77 F150 CUSTOM 460
EL Paso, TX
SEMPER FI


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Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 16:20:56 -0500
From: James Oxley
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Ox runs rings around John

John LaGrone wrote:
>
> >> I guess all I can say is HUH?? to your whole post.
> >>Doesn't the bore taper have to dead nuts to use moly rings?
>
> Huh?? The dead nuts is what threw me. Does that mean non existant?
>

"Dead nuts" means right on (no variance), :-)

OX
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Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 13:19:15 -0800 (PST)
From: Daniel DiMartino
Subject: FTE 61-79 - weird sights

o.k., here's a strange coincidence. in the last week i saw two
ford explorer 4x4 trucks and one explorer SUV 4x4 dead on the
side of the road, both pick ups i saw TODAY, one this morning
and the other on the way back home after work. what did they
all have in common? all three lost the front left wheel! quite
a sad sight seeing them with the brake disc dug into the
pavement, ouch! what gives?

=====
Daniel DiMartino

1968 F-250 soon to be a 4x4
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Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 15:35:53 -0600
From: "William S. Hart"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - FE "Shorties"/motor mounts

> CJ, That site is computer and web services.
>
> I didn't know anyone made shorty tube headers. Any idea where I
> could get some
> info on Sandersons?
>
Check out my links page for the link to Marc's site ... actually here it is
:


http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://home.pacifier.com/~draco/Truck.html

he has links on his page to the sanderson and century header people directly
...

Just my $.02
wish

96 Mustang GT 5spd 4.6L
73ish 1/2ton 4x4 6.4L
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Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 15:36:48 -0600
From: "William S. Hart"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Ox runs rings around John

> Huh?? The dead nuts is what threw me. Does that mean non existant?
>

I think he meant the bore was exactly what it was supposed to be (dead on or
dead nuts on in this case :)


took me a couple minutes reading that one too :)

Just my $.02
wish

96 Mustang GT 5spd 4.6L
73ish 1/2ton 4x4 6.4L
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Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 15:38:43 -0600
From: "William S. Hart"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - lost my tail lights

> I don't know if anyone mentioned this but if you have a trailer light
> plug check out how it was installed. I've seen some real butcher jobs
> there. Some of the quicky splice jobs cause problems.
>
> George

AMEN! Our 89 that we're selling has some nifty wiring for the trailer
lights ... they all work now, but when I first plugged it in a couple weeks
ago it shut the lights off on the truck when the trailer was on there ... a
swift kick of the bumper brought them all back on ... how's that for a
technical fix from a computer geek ? :) Anyway I crawled under there and
rewired some stuff ... they seem to work better now ...

Just my $.02
wish

96 Mustang GT 5spd 4.6L
73ish 1/2ton 4x4 6.4L
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Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 15:40:13 -0600
From: "William S. Hart"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - weird sights

> all have in common? all three lost the front left wheel! quite
> a sad sight seeing them with the brake disc dug into the
> pavement, ouch! what gives?
>

Yikes! Probably had the lug nuts put on and didn't retorque them after 100
miles or whatever ... really makes me want to go home and double check those
wheelbearings that seemed to be makin some noise last night in my truck...
though its a Ranger so I should be safe right ? :)

Just my $.02
wish

96 Mustang GT 5spd 4.6L
73ish 1/2ton 4x4 6.4L
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Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 16:44:02 -0500
From: James Oxley
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Ox runs rings around John

William S. Hart wrote:
>
> > Huh?? The dead nuts is what threw me. Does that mean non existant?
> >
>
> I think he meant the bore was exactly what it was supposed to be (dead on or
> dead nuts on in this case :)
>
> took me a couple minutes reading that one too :)
>

Are you telling me my father made that one up?? No one else ever heard
of this :-)

OX
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Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 16:45:08 -0500
From: James Oxley
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - weird sights

Daniel DiMartino wrote:
>
> o.k., here's a strange coincidence. in the last week i saw two
> ford explorer 4x4 trucks and one explorer SUV 4x4 dead on the
> side of the road, both pick ups i saw TODAY, one this morning
> and the other on the way back home after work. what did they
> all have in common? all three lost the front left wheel! quite
> a sad sight seeing them with the brake disc dug into the
> pavement, ouch! what gives?
>

I thought you were going to say Y2K computer problems, heeheehee

OX
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Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 13:48:29 -0800
From: "Bill Beyer"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Ox runs rings around John

I've heard the term dead nuts for years...always meant right on the money.

"If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, riddle them with bullets"

- ----- Original Message -----
From: James Oxley
To:
Sent: Thursday, December 16, 1999 1:44 PM
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Ox runs rings around John


> Are you telling me my father made that one up?? No one else ever heard
> of this :-)



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Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 15:56:43 -0600
From: "William S. Hart"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Ox runs rings around John

> Are you telling me my father made that one up?? No one else ever heard
> of this :-)
>

hahahaha ... I've heard it somewhere, but never seen it typed out anywhere,
that's mostly what threw me ... I couldn't figure out why dead nuts would
make the bores good ... :)

Just my $.02
wish

96 Mustang GT 5spd 4.6L
73ish 1/2ton 4x4 6.4L
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Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 14:10:21 -0800
From: John Lord
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - power steering

I just did the conversion on my 74 4x4 Crew Cab and i used an 75 F150 2
Wheel drive box. it's ratio alllows for 4 1/4 turns and works well

bronco66 wrote:

> has anyone done a power steering conversion on something similar to a 72
> f100 four-wheel drive? Can you just use the 2-wheel drive box?
>
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Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 19:29:35 EST
From: OldTrux aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - power steering

In a message dated 12/16/99 4:15:11 PM Central Standard Time,
thelord home.com writes:

> I just did the conversion on my 74 4x4 Crew Cab and i used an 75 F150 2
> Wheel drive box. it's ratio alllows for 4 1/4 turns and works well

Does that box mount outside the frame rail? Which way does the pitman arm
point?
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Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 18:46:13 -0600
From: ballingr bootheel.net
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - headers for 400

>Ok, In my opinion it is still snake oil when you only gain a very small
>percentage and generally only in one area of the rev range or another, not
>the whole spectrum, and then have to pay what people pay for this stuff.
If
>you do it for the sound or looks then it's worth what ever you think it's
>worth but if you do it for power then there are much better ways to spend
>your power money in "MOST" cases.

In many cases the extra power wont be needed anyway. But, a set of tuned
and application matched quality headers will always improve exhaust
efficiency. It may be that a given combination may not need it. Unless you
tune the engine to take advantage of it you might actually lose power. It
has to be part of a plan that takes the engines needs into consideration. A
460 has mediocre ports and a pretty good set of manifolds. Every other Ford
engine made will benefit to a much greater degree from headers, FE's with
their good exhaust ports and crummy manifolds, really get the hurt put on
them without them. They are worth as much as 40hp and 40 lbs ft of torque
over the log manifolds on about any FE you put them on.

To take advantage of better breathing you need more fuel and air going in.
It makes sense that if your exhausts are holding their own with the
combination you've got, headers or bigger pipes wont help you much. Put a
freer intake and bigger carb on you'll see the benefit. If the engine is
being choked, the headers will bring it up to it's real capacity. I don't
know enough about the 400 to make a guess on it.




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Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 20:37:13 EST
From: WEDIVE247 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: Spare tire carrier ???

In a message dated 12/15/1999 10:26:37 PM EST, carver ncwebsurfer.com writes:


>>
Ha, Ha, Ha, thanks anyhow for the info , I'll just have to keep looking for
someone who wants to part with theirs . Thanks again .
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Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 17:40:47 -0800
From: Marv Miller
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: Dirty Oil

Denny Kiernan wrote:

> after putting on 260 miles. The oil is
> almost black. Is it possible for oil to get really dirty this fast?

Nope. They don't have barrels and barrels of Arco Graphite left over from an
earlier era, do they? Black as the Ace of Spades, right out of the can. A
return trip to them for an explanation might be in order here.

- -M-

Marv Miller mailto:ae722 lafn.org
"Striving to be the person
that my dog thinks I am".
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Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 20:44:36 EST
From: TBeeee aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Ox runs rings around John

In a message dated 12/16/99 4:46:43 PM Eastern Standard Time,
luxjo thecore.com writes:

>
> Are you telling me my father made that one up?? No one else ever heard
> of this :-)
>

Nope....your Pop is "spot-on"....

Stock Man
1967 Galaxie 500 Convertible (HELP!---I need 15 x5 factory rims)
1967 F-250 FE 390 4wd
1966 F-250 I6 240 2wd LWB Flare Side
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.hometown.aol.com/tbeeee
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Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 20:59:19 EST
From: IanBoss69 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - headers for 400

ROFL 80 in 3rd? mine hits 5k rpm when i go 50 in 3rd...guess its those
puny 33" and 4.10s not to mention the granny gear trans, sure does get it up
to 50 fast though

Ian
79 F250 4x4 4spd 351M

In a message dated 12/16/99 10:00:21 AM Eastern Standard Time,
wish iastate.edu writes:

> > My old Ch**y 235, in line 6 would do 80 in second.....:-) (threw some rods
> > shortly after that though :-)) Festiva would do 80 in third
> > (burned up the
> > exhaust valves doing that :-))
>
> Lets see the 'stang will do 80 in third no problem (heck that's even before
> I have to shift!) and i"m sure the new Cobra's can pull down 2nd gear 80mph
> bursts pretty easily ... my truck? Not on your life ... it might be able
> to, but I'll never know.... 'course I've got 3.50 gears too ...
>
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Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 19:21:06 -0800
From: "Hogan, Tom"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Ox runs rings around John

No, I've heard it before. I always thought it meant perfect measurement
with 0000 deviation from spec. (Doesn't the 0000 look like a cluster of
nuts?) (where's Deacon I know what's coming, ok, I'll stop while I'm ahead,
oops there I go again. How did this happen?) Anyway, this reminds me of a
story a Navy buddy of mine told me. Seems there used to be a watch called
"balls to 4". Referredt to the midnight to 4 am watch. Since the military
is on a 24 hour clock at midnight the digital clocks went from 11:59 to
00:00. Looks like balls. Someone (with a dirty mind) took offense and the
name of the watch was changed. Terminal lack of a sense of humor.

Tom H

> -----Original Message-----
> From: James Oxley [mailto:luxjo thecore.com]
> Sent: Thursday, December 16, 1999 1:44 PM
> To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Ox runs rings around John
>
>
> William S. Hart wrote:
> >
> > > Huh?? The dead nuts is what threw me. Does that mean non existant?
> > >
> >
> > I think he meant the bore was exactly what it was supposed
> to be (dead on or
> > dead nuts on in this case :)
> >
> > took me a couple minutes reading that one too :)
> >
>
> Are you telling me my father made that one up?? No one else
> ever heard
> of this :-)
>
> OX
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Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 20:02:36 -0700
From: "Kiernan, Denny"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - weird sights

William S. Hart wrote:
>
> > all have in common? all three lost the front left wheel! quite
> > a sad sight seeing them with the brake disc dug into the
> > pavement, ouch! what gives?
> >
>
> Yikes! Probably had the lug nuts put on and didn't retorque them after 100
> miles or whatever ... really makes me want to go home and double check those
> wheelbearings that seemed to be makin some noise last night in my truck...
> though its a Ranger so I should be safe right ? :)

They never put this kind of information in the owner's manual, do they?
As if everybody who buys a vehicle is supposed to have considerable
mechanical knowledge.

I had a wheel fall off about a 100 miles or so after it had been put on.
The lug nuts had all unscrewed themselves (or had been unscrewed by a
saboteur). Of course I was warned by the noise that there was something
wrong about seven miles earlier, but didn't investigate thoroughly
enough. And yeah, I wound up smashing up the whole brake and rim.
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Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 20:04:11 -0700
From: "Kiernan, Denny"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Ox runs rings around John

Bill Beyer wrote:
>
> I've heard the term dead nuts for years...always meant right on the money.
>
Like a dead ball in pool?
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Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 20:45:18 -0800
From: "Bill Beyer"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Ox runs rings around John

No idea where it came from...

"If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, riddle them with bullets"

- ----- Original Message -----
From: Kiernan, Denny
To:
Sent: Thursday, December 16, 1999 7:04 PM
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Ox runs rings around John


> Bill Beyer wrote:
> >
> > I've heard the term dead nuts for years...always meant right on the
money.
> >
> Like a dead ball in pool?
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Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 00:09:34 -0800
From: "Bob"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: Central Florida List Members

Hey CJ
Like I said, I will be there for sure...checked on the map, we will only
be a couple of inches apart.... :>)
See Ya there

Bob


>Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 09:48:13 EST
>From: BDIJXS aol.com
>Subject: FTE 61-79 - Central Florida List Members????
>
>Just checking to see if anyone is interested in a free lunch in Central
>Florida, probably on Jan 3rd.....I'll be just north of Tampa, but I'm
willing
>to meet people somewhere within a reasonable distance.....
>
>I've heard a lot about "Planet Bubba", but haven't had a chance to eat
there
>yet????
>
>Please e-mail me if you think you can make it.
>
>CJ
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Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 21:53:33 -0800
From: "bronco66"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - power steering

so what box do i buy?
- ----- Original Message -----
From: Josh Assing
To:
Sent: Thursday, December 16, 1999 11:01 AM
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - power steering


> > has anyone done a power steering conversion on something similar to a
> > 72 f100 four-wheel drive? Can you just use the 2-wheel drive box?
>
> No. you can't use a 2 wheel drive box at all.
>
> >From what I understand; you can use a mid-70's Bronco box. You
> have to cut the frame a bit to be able to get to bolt the box
> completely up; and you'll need to weld up a new steering column.
>
> That's from what I've learned. I haven't done mine (yet) as I've got
> bigger problems... (massive amounts of oil disappearing)
>
> -j
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Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 01:35:38 EST
From: SevnD2 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Ox runs rings around John

In a message dated 12/16/1999 4:46:43 PM Eastern Standard Time,
luxjo thecore.com writes:


Are you telling me my father made that one up?? No one else ever heard
of this :-)

OX >>
He didn't make it up ! I have heard this phrase before from a fellow worker .
Took me a minute to get the meaning also . LOL
Rollie .
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Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 14:37:22 +0800
From: "David and Cherie"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - weird sights

Strange eh,
I had a Toyota Landcruiser a few years ago and its left front wheel came
loose on a number of occasions.
Dave
Australia
68 F350


>
>o.k., here's a strange coincidence. in the last week i saw two
>ford explorer 4x4 trucks and one explorer SUV 4x4 dead on the
>side of the road, both pick ups i saw TODAY, one this morning
>and the other on the way back home after work. what did they
>all have in common? all three lost the front left wheel! quite
>a sad sight seeing them with the brake disc dug into the
>pavement, ouch! what gives?
>
>=====
>Daniel DiMartino


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Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 02:24:35 EST
From: SevnD2 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 2x4 cab mounts

In a message dated 12/08/1999 9:22:27 PM Eastern Standard Time,
TBeeee aol.com writes:


situation....you can get by with the 2x4 lift, but the solid contact between
the cab and frame transfers a lot more vibration thus "noise" If your cab
is out of position too much it can have an adverse effect on the linkages
including the column. >>

On a truck of age , say twenty years or more , I would say go ahead and
replace the cab mounting bolts . My brother had a bad crash once in a 66 F100
and the cab mounting bolts broke . The cab became a seperated piece and
airborn . I don't know if the bolts were just pressed beyond what they could
handle even if new . I looked at them at the junk yard and they had been
rusted through a little . The only good thing left was the passenger side
door , bed , rear bumper and rearend . Like I said , it was a bad crash !
Oh , my brother is still alive and well and driving and loving all of those
old and new Ford Trucks ! He currently has a 65 F100 short bed , 70 3/4 ton ,
99 F350 powerstroke dually crewcab and many parts trucks .
Rollie .
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Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 23:42:43 -0800
From: "Kory A. Kneeland"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - headlight parts

Try this website, and order their catalog -- www.lmctruck.com

I have a '71 Bronco and get this catalog. They have just about any trim
piece you could want for F series and Broncos, especially those parts you
can't seem to find anywhere else.

Good luck,

Kory
'71 Bronco w/302
kakneeland home.com

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Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 23:43:27 -0800
From: "Kory A. Kneeland"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - popping carb

Kirk,

My '71 Bronco w/302 does this too. For me it's just a timing issue. I've
got a '78s electronic ignition in my Bronco, so maybe there's some
similarity in out problems. I just advanced the timing and the problem went
mostly away. The reason I say mostly is because my engine still just plain
rattles my distributor's nut loose every once in a while and I have to
re-time it.

Good luck,

Kory
kakneeland home.com

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Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 23:44:06 -0800
From: "Kory A. Kneeland"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - power steering conversion

Hey there FTE member,

I've got a 71 Bronco with manual steering and I've been looking at
converting as well. A good resource I've found is James Duff. If you check
out his company's web page you'll drool and get educated. He makes all
kinds of EB gear, including power steering conversion kits with or without
the box. Here's the site: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.jamesduff.com/

Man you are really going to dig this!

Lots of luck,

Kory
kakneeland home.com
'71 EB w/302

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Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 00:02:17 -0800
From: "bronco66"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - power steering conversion

the EB frame is very diffrent from the f100 frame. I don't believe duff
stuff is designed for f100's. As far as steering for the EB I believe the
saginaw conversion is the popular thing right now, it's not cheep though.

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