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In this issue:

Re: FTE 61-79 - can somebody decode these
FTE 61-79 - Understanding Cam Specifications
Re: FTE 61-79 - First 351M (400?) Rebuild
FTE 61-79 - Re: mid 70's F250 4X4 crewcab
Re: FTE 61-79 - First 351M (400?) Rebuild
FTE 61-79 - Things about Springs
Re: FTE 61-79 - can somebody decode these
Re: FTE 61-79 - can somebody decode these
Re: FTE 61-79 - Electrical problem
FTE 61-79 - FE Head Gasket
FTE 61-79 - #1 Cylinder
Re: FTE 61-79 - #1 Cylinder
FTE 61-79 - FMX
RE: FTE 61-79 - 2x4 cab mounts & Wire Harness
FTE 61-79 - New noise coming from under truck
Re: FTE 61-79 - #1 Cylinder
FTE 61-79 - Sell?
Re: FTE 61-79 - Understanding Cam Specifications
FTE 61-79 - Easy high performance for the 400M
FTE 61-79 - Re: First 351M (400?) Rebuild
FTE 61-79 - Re: - 460 - hard to start
Re: FTE 61-79 - Head Gasket
Re: FTE 61-79 - #1 Cylinder
FTE 61-79 - Re: 460 swap mounts
FTE 61-79 - Re: Cab Mounts
FTE 61-79 - Re: electrical problem - Answer found
Re: FTE 61-79 - Oil pickup hard to find...

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Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 08:02:39 -0400
From: joe delaurentis
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - can somebody decode these

Steve,
i typed the other one in wrong...its c80e-9e17-c i'm told that too is a cj
intake????
Joe

sdelanty sonic.net wrote:

> Joe wrote:
> >Can somebody decode these 2 intake Codes...
> >C80E-9425-C
>
> I know this one... it's a 428CJ manifold. I've got one in
> my garage. If you want to sell it, there's someone on the
> list that may be looking for one if you're close enough for
> shipping to be reasonable.
> Bill, are you still out there?
>
> >C80E-C9E17
>
> That's a weird #. Haven't a clue what that is.
>
> Steve
> http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.sonic.net/~sdelanty
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Joe
68 4x4 390 c6- Np 205 Dana 44 with Disc Brakes,
Since Ford Didn't build em this way in 68, I'll make my own!


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Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1999 06:35:58 -0700
From: "Michael White"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Understanding Cam Specifications

> I agonized for quite awhile over the cam choice for my 400 and finally
> narrowed it down to these choices:
> http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://home.pacifier.com/~bbeyer/Cam_Comp.htm . I went with the Crower at
> the top. It has quite a bit of lift and since the engine is still on the
> stand in my shop I can't give you any performance specs yet. I installed
it
> straight up after degreeing it in (thanks to fellow FTE Muel Samuels) with
a
> double roller timing set.
>
> "If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, riddle them with bullets"
............

After looking at different cam specs, I realized I haven't got a clue as
to what they mean (doh!). How does duration and lobe separation affect
performance? Which cams work best for high RPM, and which for low RPM? Is
there a book available which describes the different effects of the
different cam specs? If so, could somebody provide an ISBN for such a book?

TIA

Danger
danger csolutions.net
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Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1999 06:24:51 -0700
From: "Michael White"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - First 351M (400?) Rebuild

> Just my opinion, but the best one I have ever found for the 351C, 351M,
400M,
> 429, and 460 is, "How to rebuild your Ford V-8" by Tom Monroe, ISBN
> 0-89586-036-8. Most of the auto parts stores where I live carry these on
the
> shelf. This book gives you all of the specs and should let you make
informed
> decisions on how to modify your rebuild.
Good Luck
> Burt Hill Kennewick WA 1972 F250 4x4 460
..........

Thanks for the ISBN, it sure makes it easier to find a book!

Danger
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Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1999 09:26:32 EST
From: FORDTRKNUT aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: mid 70's F250 4X4 crewcab

Yes....Please get the phone number. Even 2000 bucks isn't alot of money. I
mean...how many CrewCabs do you see these days? I would really like a
Crewcab around 1978 or 1979. I Live in New Jersey, but will travel for that
type of truck. Thanks Alot!!! Wayne Grabley
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Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1999 09:58:20 -0600
From: Ballinger
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - First 351M (400?) Rebuild

> Definitely get the Monroe book that Burt Hill mentioned. It has a lot of
> helpful info in it. All you need to convert the 341M into a 400 is the crank
> and pistons. Everything else is the identical.

Another person that can help you is our resident M-block devotee Dave
Resch. He wrote an excellent article that you'll find on the FTE site,
and if you ask nice, I bet he'd answer any question you've got.

The 351M to 400 conversion is covered in his article, check it out.

And a word to all of us list members who mostly just read the daily
lists, go to the website once in a while and check out the new stuff Ken
and Peggy have put on there. More tech articles, pictures, and most
importantly new advertisers for products we need. I have hand it to you
guys, you have put together a resource for us all second to none. You
could literally do anything Ford truck related from that site.
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Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1999 10:05:44 -0600
From: Ballinger
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Things about Springs

> Well, to make a long story short, just this weekend, after quite a bit of
> trial-and-error, I wound up with 5 springs (these happened to be non-tapered,
> as pointed out to me by Dave R.), one stock overload spring, and 2-1/2"
> blocks. Finally, the vibration has stopped. I'm not sure if it had something
> do with the non-tapered springs or what, but anywhere between 6 and 10 leafs,
> the vibration would occur.
>
> The reason I'm posting this is that if you are considering having custom
> springs made, try to ask some questions about somehow matching the spring
> rates to the vehicle....or something like that!!!!!!

My '65 does that a little bit too, with the stock springs. I have the
stock slipper shackles that you have to keep the leaf gobbed with grease
or it will hammer you to death. But there's that undulation at around
45, I alway's thought it was tires out of balance. Is it the mix of
leaf types or the varying lengths that did it?
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Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1999 10:23:04 -0600
From: Ballinger
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - can somebody decode these

> Joe wrote:
> >Can somebody decode these 2 intake Codes...
> >C80E-9425-C
>
> I know this one... it's a 428CJ manifold. I've got one in
> my garage. If you want to sell it, there's someone on the
> list that may be looking for one if you're close enough for
> shipping to be reasonable.
> Bill, are you still out there?

Yes, I'm here, and still interested in finding a CJ intake for my
truck. E-mail me and tell me more, where you are, and whether you want
to sell it, etc.

I'd like to buy Steve's, but the shipping from the left coast appears
prohibitively expensive. My engine combination just calls out for one,
though. I have a std Performer 390, I'd trade for it, BTW. It needs to
be bead blasted, but would be great on a truck with a less agressive
combination than mine.
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Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1999 10:53:32 -0600
From: Stu Varner
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - can somebody decode these

At 10:23 AM 12/12/99 -0600, you wrote:
>> Joe wrote:
>> >Can somebody decode these 2 intake Codes...
>> >C80E-9425-C
>>

While we are on the subject of decoding intake manifolds.....
I just picked up another 4V FE inatke manifold a few weeks ago with a
different casting
mark on it.

Out to the left of the entire part number is a large almost one inch tall
"S", then an inch or so away
from the "S" is the casting # C7AE 9425 E

I am told this came off of a 410 Mercury engine.......Was the guy blowing
smoke or what??
How does this compare to the 428 CJ cast intake mentioned above????

I am very curious as to what the "S" means!!!

Thanks guys! (Non-gender specific - hehehe)

Stu
Nuke GM!
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Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1999 10:03:06 -0800
From: "Jim Davis"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Electrical problem

I had a similar problem with my 73 F250; dim interior light, battery going
dead, radio would cut out, and then the temp gauge starting indicating
overheating while the coolant was OK to touch. A friend who is smarter than
I am showed me a bad ground wire from the firewall to the engine. Once that
was tightened up everything started working correctly. I went through and
retightend/ replaced all the ground wires I could find. Hope your problem is
as easy to fix.
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Matthew Schwartz"
To:
Sent: Thursday, December 09, 1999 7:33 PM
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Electrical problem


> I have a great electrical problem. Symptoms include a battery that will
> drainin a few days if the truck is not run. Other symptoms include
extremely
> dim interior lights and headlights when running or not. Another symptom
may
> be more important for diagnosis. The dash lights, at times, will flash and
> both dash blinker indicators will stay on solid...then everything will go
> off...then normal...then back to the lights dimming... with the exception
of
> the blinker indicators which stay on bright.
>
> Before I start tracing current through wires with an ammeter, has anyone
> found a culprit to these symptoms?
>
> I know.....start tracing wires :
>
> Matt
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Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1999 11:17:22 -0800
From: "S.Harkema"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - FE Head Gasket

One thing about FEs is that the intake is very heavy.They tend to push
out the end seals if the intake is not set STRAIGHT down during
installation.A hoist or a helper makes it easier.Also check out
Ballinger's tech article on FE pushrods at the FTE site.
A little dab of silicone where the head and intake come together under
the rocker cover gasket won't hurt.
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Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1999 11:35:25 PST
From: "Christopher Worley"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - #1 Cylinder

Greetings,
I need to ask if anyone knows which cylinder is #1 on a 72 F100 390, I
think it is the first cylinder from the front on the left side am I right,
another thing I would like to ask is what in the hell is a "Dizzy" I have
seen the terms used extensivly on the list but can't figure out what it is



TIA

Chris
'67 F100 352 LWB
'93 F150 351 SC

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Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1999 14:08:42 -0600
From: Stu Varner
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - #1 Cylinder

At 11:35 AM 12/12/99 PST, you wrote:
>Greetings,
> I need to ask if anyone knows which cylinder is #1 on a 72 F100 390, I
>think it is the first cylinder from the front on the left side am I right,


Passengers side front, next to where the stock battery loacation is.
It should be on the intake manifold above each cylinder.


Stu
Nuke GM!
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Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1999 13:12:47 -0700 (MST)
From: TLHCowboy webtv.net (Tarry Harper)
Subject: FTE 61-79 - FMX

Will a 351W bolt to the same bell housing on a FMX as a 289? Will the
distributor swap out? Anything that will swap would be helpful
knowledge.

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Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1999 15:46:08 -0500
From: "Warren Anderson"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - 2x4 cab mounts & Wire Harness

When I replaced the rubber supports with polyurethane, I had the same
problem with replacing the metal retainer that holds the bushings together.
I found a company called LMC Truck that sells the metal retainers for a few
dollars and it is a lot easier then making the retainers.
LMC Truck Info
Orders 1-800-222-5664
Web www.lmctruck.com
On to my question, has any one used a wiring harness from painless
performance company. Is it hard to install? Any unexpected problems? I was
thinking about buying a universal harness to replace my old one. Or if there
any companies that sell a Ford wiring harness with all the connectors? Any
help is appreciated.

> Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1999 08:04:21 -0500
> From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)"
> Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - 2x4 cab mounts
> > I'll defer to the list again: anybody have any negative input
> > about bolting
> > new mounts over the old? I really like fixing things right
> > the first time
> > but this is not a resto project (not supposed to be, anyway).
> > Translated,
> > I'm looking for the best combination of safety, mechanical
> > function and
> > cost.
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Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1999 16:48:06 EST
From: BDIJXS aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - New noise coming from under truck

Garry,

Could this be your carrier bearing???? I''ve replaced two of them over the
years..... I finally got rid of mine and went with a one piece setup.....

CJ
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Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1999 15:50:59 -0600
From: "Jason & Kathy Kendrick"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - #1 Cylinder

dizzy = distributor

Christopher Worley wrote:
what in the hell is a "Dizzy"
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Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1999 14:24:36 PST
From: "White Wolf"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Sell?

I might be selling my '66 F100 352 if anyone is interested... I really
like the truck but i just keep having too many problems with it. Not to
mention that every time I get one thing fixed something else breaks. So
email me if your interested while I finish deciding.

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Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1999 14:45:25 -0800
From: "Bill Beyer"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Understanding Cam Specifications

I understand your confusion. Here is a copy of some info that Chris Samuels
posted regarding the camshafts on the page I posted:

You have to have been here to see what I am talking about.
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://home.pacifier.com/~bbeyer/Cam_Comp.htm

"M" Fans, and any one else running over 400 CI.
The Camshafts listed in Bill's chart are roughly listed in descending order
of the power levels that they will produce.
Of the top three cams it will be little difference between them peak power
wise. But there is another factor that comes in to play, that being the lobe
center angles. Bill has raised the CR to 9.0:1. Most cams for this engine
IMHO are ground for the factory typical LOW compression configuration
(7.5/8.0:1CR); with wide centers. The wide Lobe center reduces the overlap
Period. The overlap Period is the time when the Intake AND the Exhaust
valves are open. The amount of Overlap has a direct influence on the power
output , emissions, and driveability characteristics of the engine.
Power we typically divide between Torque and Horses.
Torque is what we call bottom-end power and Horses are Generally Top-end.
In a classic text book scenario, the larger the Overlap Period the less
Bottom-end, and the more Top-end. Why? The longer the overlap period the
less efficient the engine is AT LOW SPEEDS, or in the Bottom-end.
All of the top three cams have 10 (aprx.) more duration then the bottom
three
cams. The longer the duration the longer the Overlap Period with lobe
centers at a fixed spread. The Overlap Period can be reduced by spreading
the centers.
Low compression engines tend to like short duration, wide lobe center
camshafts.
High compression engines like all kinds of Cams!
Emissions engines must have both Short Duration and Low Overlap Cams. (Yes,
there are exceptions)
So where am I going?
Well, Cutting to the quick.
With a small Carb. (600 CFM) and a mild Intake (Performer), Bill has
components that will work well in the Idle to 5000 RPM range, due to
improved Cylinder Filling. The Port work will only help this. Throttle
response will be good. This is due to intake velocity and increased MEP
(Mean Effective Pressure). We all know that this engine can be picky about
Gas quality. Raise the MEP and it becomes more so. Every thing listed above
will raise the MEP and so make the engine intolerant of JUNK gas! We can
bleed off some of the pressure in the bottom end with a lengthened Duration,
and or narrowing the Lobe Centers.
As Bill raised the CR he will be making more Bottom-end, so a Narrower Lobe
Center will loose some of it. But he is going to be making 2x or more then
the factory did at the same RPM so even loosing some results in a net gain.
The longer duration will allow the engine to run harder in the top-end, be
more tolerant of gas quality, and the narrowed lobe center will accentuate
this trend. In this case I would recommend the narrow lobe center, long
duration approach. Bill is running an Automatic so generally the Duration
should be under 220 0.050 (Avg. Both Int. & Ext.) with a stock converter.
The Comp Cam listed is over this, but the small Carb will compensate for
most of this. The Comp Cam may not be the best choice from an Emissions
standpoint. So getting back to the 220 may be required making the Crane or
SVO cam my second choice.
I should note that you are not limited to the choices in the cam books as
most will custom grind anything you want. So I might choose the Crane cam
duration with the Comp Cam Intake Lift, SVO exhaust Lift, on a 109 Lobe
Center.

Note that without headers and good exhaust, none of these camshafts will
give their potential and a much shorter duration would be a better choice.


"If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, riddle them with bullets"

- ----- Original Message -----
From: Michael White
To:
Sent: Sunday, December 12, 1999 5:35 AM
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Understanding Cam Specifications


> After looking at different cam specs, I realized I haven't got a clue
as
> to what they mean (doh!). How does duration and lobe separation affect
> performance? Which cams work best for high RPM, and which for low RPM? Is
> there a book available which describes the different effects of the
> different cam specs? If so, could somebody provide an ISBN for such a
book?



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Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1999 19:21:45 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Easy high performance for the 400M

Just got this tip from someone who read Dave's performance
article on the web site:

Ohio Piston(1-800-999-9999) makes a 9.5:1 pistons for the 400M.

I believe this piston can definitely make the 400M give other
small blocks a run for their money!

Ken Payne

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Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1999 17:18:34 -0800 (PST)
From: Dan Lee
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: First 351M (400?) Rebuild

Danger,
I am glad that you asked. My'53 has a fresh 400
(+.030) with the Ohio Pin & Piston flattops, Crane
278/290 dual pattern cam, double roller chain, roller
rockers, fluid damper, Sanderson headers(351C), 750CFM
Carter, Edelbrock Performer(351C) and 351C-4V heads
with Manley valves. I have been taking it easy because
I am still breaking it in, but I pulled away from a
D***e V10 last week. My tranny is a rebuilt C6 w/shift
kit. The exhaust is via Flowmasters and the spark is
Holley Annihilator with a Mallory Dist and Promaster
Coil. My latest addition is 3.25:1 posi gears. The CR
with this setup is about 10.2:1. It is fine on 92
Octane.

A lot of people on this list are down on the 4V
Cleveland heads, because of poor bottom end, but
because of the long stroke of the 400 and 285/50x15"
tires, mine will squeal for a hundred yards.

If you only want moderate performance use the stock
heads and the flattop pistons (9:1CR), 268 cam, 600
CFM Edelbrock/Carter Carb and Performer manifold.
Don't use Moly rings. My Sanderson headers are #FC3
and fit perfectly with the C6, but they are for the 4V
heads, call Sanderson for more info. (800-669-2430).

Dan Lee
'53 F100
400C-4V


>Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1999 07:08:23 -0700
>From: "Michael White"
>Subject: FTE 61-79 -
> A friend of mine has asked me to rebuild his 351M
>which sits in his
>79 F
>series 2wd auto trans. I'm not familiar with the M
>blocks and would
>like to
>know what book would be most helpful for this task. A
>book title and
>ISBN
>number would sure be a great help.
> What is needed to convert the 351M to a 400 CID?
>I'd also like some
>advice on cam choices for the 400 with auto trans and
>headers. How
>about the
>piston/ring choices and compression ratio options?
>Would it be best to
>build
>at around 9:1?
> Since the owner is used to driving a stock 351M,
>the extra 49 cubic
>inches of a 400 should provide enough of an
>impression to keep him
>happy,
>but a mildly improved (not radically improved) 400
>built from the
>ground up
>would really do the trick.

TIA



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Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1999 20:49:10 -0500
From: "Matthew Schwartz"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: - 460 - hard to start

I have a 77 Supercab with a transplant 460/c6. I think your initial
suspicion is right....if you are having the engine fire up and then stall. I
put a manual choke on mine because the air tube that runs from the left side
of the carb into the intake manifold was broke. That manual choke has fixed
my problem. Force close the choke (the forward flapper on the top of the
carb) on a cold morning and see what happens. If it fires up and runs you
know what you are dealing with. Also check the fast idle if the choke seems
good. Of course a missing hot air plenum to your aircleaner from the exhaust
manifold will hurt on a cold day as well.

By the way, I have to play the accelerator a bit to get the new 460 engine
going ..generally no more the 30 -45 seconds on a cold day. (no exhaust heat
tube, open air cleaner and manual choke) My 1970 Dodge Charger with an
original 440Magnum will start with a few pumps on the coldest of mornings.
That car is running a stock Carter AVS. My opinion on carbs...if you want to
race and play with carbs...go holley. If you want to bolt on a new carb and
run reliably...Carter.

By the way..what carb are you running? I am assuming a motorcraft.

Matt

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Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1999 21:16:49 EST
From: SHill48337 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Head Gasket

In a message dated 12/11/99 10:14:54 PM Eastern Standard Time,
cworley76 hotmail.com writes:


on his way to my house, I need to know if there are any special tricks, tips
I need to be aware of, anything else I should check while I have it tore
down.
>>
Make sure the pushrods go back as before. When placing the intake manifold
gaskets front and back, make sure you stick them in place before putting the
manifold on top. I use contact cement from a tube of trim adhesive. If you
do not do this and you move the manifold forward or aft a little bit while
resting on the gasket, it is likely to move just enough such that the rear
gasket lines up in front of rear oil drain from the head. This will divert a
continuos stream of oil out onto the bell housing, and will be very difficult
to locate. Another problem might occur when trying to remove the exhaust
manifold bolts to the head. Soak them good before trying to break them
loose, or they may break. Good Luck
Burt Hill Kennewick WA 1972 F-250 4x4 460
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Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1999 21:36:17 EST
From: SHill48337 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - #1 Cylinder

In a message dated 12/12/99 2:37:55 PM Eastern Standard Time,
cworley76 hotmail.com writes:


think it is the first cylinder from the front on the left side am I right,
another thing I would like to ask is what in the hell is a "Dizzy" I have
seen the terms used extensivly on the list but can't figure out what it is
>>
Do not feel bad, but the #1 cylinder is the forward one on the righthand side
of the vehicle. Ch*vy's #1 is on the left and the count goes across the
engine such that the odd numbers are on the left and the even ones are on the
right. Ford starts with #1 right forward and counts back to #4, them moves
to the left front and counts back to #8. Since Ford made V8s before Ch*vy
and their count has not changed, it was GM that non standardized it. There
have been several pet names for the distributor mentioned on this list. Good
Luck
Burt Hill Kennewick WA 1972 F-250 4x4 460
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Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1999 20:52:21 -0600
From: Brett L Habben
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: 460 swap mounts

Junk yard alert.
I saw a 71(?) F100 with a 429 bolted into it at Aarons' Auto Parts here
in Austin, TX. It's a green truck at the east end of the Ford truck row.
I don't know what combination of pieces were used to put it together but
they're there for the taking cheap....
Brett
Super75cab
>The Fe and 460 do not mount the same way but I understand the mount
holes
>for the stanchions for the 460 are already in the cross member in a 2wd.
>Not sure how they work in the 4wd but for 2wd you need the stancheons
and
>after market mounts from L&L or some other. FE's mount front and rear,
>460's mount in the center and use the tranny as the rear mount.


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Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1999 20:43:25 -0600
From: Brett L Habben
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: Cab Mounts

Don,
Where'd you get these? Did they have a brand or manufacturer name on
them? Are all the various ones marketed actually the same, just reboxed?

Will be needin' a pair.....
Brett
Super75cab
>
>Go For it!!.. I bolted on one mount in my '70 f-250 in about two hours.
I
>used a floor jack, some jackstands and a few pieces of 4x4 to support
the
>cab while i was working on it. The mounts i got were said to fit
1967-86
>f-series trucks. They extend well back under the floor and have lots of
room
>to drill and bolt. My cost for the front mounts was about $32 canadian

>each. Its not concours, but it gives you a servicable repair.
>Don Jones
>1970 F-250 4x4 ~Fordzilla~


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Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1999 23:29:02 -0500
From: "Matthew Schwartz"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: electrical problem - Answer found

I found the answer to the problem. With the engine running..I disconnected
the battery..the engine died. That lead me to the alternator or voltage
regulator. Voltage regulator was the problem. It appears, at least now, that
when the battery got to a certain low voltage level, it produced some
anomolies...like the dash lights flickering on and off and the turn....


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