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61-79-list-digest Friday, December 10 1999 Volume 03 : Number 454



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In this issue:

FTE 61-79 - Re: 4x4 Engine and tranny removal
FTE 61-79 - 2X4 cab mounts
Re: FTE 61-79 - Overflow/vent hose for 78 gas tank
RE: FTE 61-79 - 2x4 cab mounts
RE: FTE 61-79 - New clutch for 400 - ideas?
RE: FTE 61-79 - duraspark conversion woes
FTE 61-79 - 71 C-6 - 429 Thunderbird
Re: FTE 61-79 - New clutch for 400 - ideas?
Re: FTE 61-79 - New clutch for 400 - ideas?
FTE 61-79 - OOPS!
FTE 61-79 - New clutch for 400 - ideas?
FTE 61-79 - 4x4 engine and tranny removal
FTE 61-79 - Chewed out
FTE 61-79 - Whack it
FTE 61-79 - Dist won't seat
FTE 61-79 - need someone to decode for me
Re: FTE 61-79 - need someone to decode for me
RE: FTE 61-79 - Replacement Glove Box Insert
Re: FTE 61-79 - Replacement Glove Box Insert
Re: FTE 61-79 - Replacement Glove Box Insert
Re: FTE 61-79 - Replacement Glove Box Insert
Re: FTE 61-79 - need someone to decode for me
FTE 61-79 - New to list, couple Q's
RE: FTE 61-79 - New to list, couple Q's
FTE 61-79 - Plastic Glove Box Inserts
Re: FTE 61-79 - duraspark conversion woes
Re: FTE 61-79 - 4x4 engine and tranny removal
FTE 61-79 - Re 400 Clutch.
FTE 61-79 - Electrical problem
Re: FTE 61-79 - 4x4 engine and tranny removal
FTE 61-79 - Glove Box
FTE 61-79 - ADMIN: New Ford trucks
Re: FTE 61-79 - 71 C-6 - 429 Thunderbird
Re: FTE 61-79 - Electrical problem

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Date: Thu, 09 Dec 1999 06:57:57 -0500
From: Steve Schaefer
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: 4x4 Engine and tranny removal

>
> i'm pulling the engine and tranny out of the ext cab 250, has anyone ever
> tried to pull the engine and trans (351m/c6)out as a unit? i unbolted the
> transfer case from the trans, but was wondering how much trouble it will be
> to line them back up. i have pulled the trans and t case out of my 78 f150,
> it was a royal pain in the butt. used an engine hoist inside the truck to let
> it down on the ground. i don't want to do that again. you get into
> driveshafts, cross members and all that stuff.
>

Jeff,
It would be easier to pull the front clip, and pull it all out as one
(motor/tranny/transfer case). This is what I did last time. Lining up the tranny
and transfer case was not that bad, but I did it on the floor. I would suggest
either raising the back wheels or remove the rear drive shaft in order to rotate
the transfer case gears in order to line up the tranny and transfer case. Really
not much harder than lining up a driveshaft yoke with a 2wd tranny.
Good luck

Steve S.
76 F-350 Crewcab
77 F-250 Supercab
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Date: Thu, 09 Dec 1999 07:30:18 -0500
From: "J. Doss Halsey"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 2X4 cab mounts

>My question: To those of you who have replaced 2x4s with real cab mounts,
>was it worth the money? Why/why not? I think I could get used to the
>slightly "wooden" feel it's got now.

Yes, it is worth doing. Now my cab is aligned with the bed again, the
steering works correctly again, and the parking brake does not bind. It can
get expensive, though. I got a quote for $750 to weld them in (labor only)
and the parts are expensive. Here are some tips to make it a little cheaper:

I used the original type cab mounts from Dennis Carpenter. They were very
nice quality. I did the work myself by removing the cab from the frame
(using an engine hoist and 4 guys) and laying it on it's back. I cut the
old cab mounts off using a spot weld remover from Eastwood. I ended up
bolting the new cab mounts in place with about 20 10-24 bolts on each one.
This allowed several things (not the least of which is complete rust
proofing under the new mount). It also=allowed me to pull the mount up
tight to the body (I was having problems getting it fitted tight enough to
weld.

If you are not too picky, the "aftermarket style" cab mounts go over the
old mounts and entomb the whole mess. You can bolt them in, too, without
taking the cab off the frame. If you want a set of the aftermarket style
cab mounts, I'll let you have them for $50 total including shipping. Be
careful of flimsy ones, I think there are two kinds of the aftermarket
ones, one is sturdier than the other. These look pretty sturdy.

Doss Halsey
'68 F250, no longer listing to the left.

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Date: Thu, 09 Dec 1999 08:21:00 -0500
From: James Oxley
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Overflow/vent hose for 78 gas tank

Pat Brown wrote:
>
> Ox wondered:
> > Peters, Gary (G.R.) wrote:
> > >
> > > I've always used gas line for that and since gas does flow in it sometimes,
> > > that is, it is exposed to gas you should take that into account so gas line
> > > is a good choice.
> >
> > Where can I get 3/4-1 inch gas line??? Are we talking about the same
> > hose??
>
> NAPA, or if that fails, a boat shop. Boats use really long fill and
> vent hoses - which reminds me, I need to check mine out this winter :-)

Great idea!! I have a boat too and I look at those hoses every year I
put the battery in, would have thought I would have remembered that.

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Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 08:16:13 -0600
From: "William S. Hart"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - 2x4 cab mounts

> I was ready to spend the bucks on Dennis
> Carpenter replacement parts -- also would like to replace other rubber
> mounts while the cab's off -- but man alive, this is starting to look
> expensive! And that's without paying the welder.
>

How expensive is it getting if I can ask? I got all my parts when I had
this done (just the fronts, but had floors done too) from the local parts
store, they just had to dig through their catalog a little... good quality
stuff when it came in too ...

> My question: To those of you who have replaced 2x4s with real cab mounts,
> was it worth the money? Why/why not? I think I could get used to the
> slightly "wooden" feel it's got now.
>

The peace of mind was enough for me ... I also thought it was going to cure
some of my steering ails, but it didn't really fix those ... I guess I like
knowing I'm not going to be flung off into the ditch when I bounce around
that corner in the gravel road ... call me crazy :)

Just my $.02
wish

96 Mustang GT 5spd 4.6L
73ish 1/2ton 4x4 6.4L
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Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 08:22:54 -0600
From: "William S. Hart"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - New clutch for 400 - ideas?

> After hearing the good advice of G Peters regarding clutches - first that
> he'd prefer to use an "after market HD unit of some kind FOR SURE" (engine
> too much for clutch) and second that the diaphragm type can be
> more reliable
> than the three finger (lever?) type - I am stuck.
>
> Except no one in town has a "heavy-duty" clutch for the 400 / 351M.
>
> I am hoping someone knows of an online source of these that ships
> Fedex....
> uh...? Or any other recommendations. (i.e., sell me on the regular or,
> cheaper yet, lever type clutch.)
>

www.jegs.com (1800-345-4545) just grabbed it out of the mailbox this
morning even, I'm sure they can set you up with what you need ...


Just my $.02
wish

96 Mustang GT 5spd 4.6L
73ish 1/2ton 4x4 6.4L
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Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 08:25:09 -0600
From: "William S. Hart"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - duraspark conversion woes

Sorry to hear about your "issues" with the conversion ... I've got all the
wiring, but haven't assembled the rest of the pieces yet ...

I was looking through the FMS book last night, and see that they offer a
conversion kit with high energy coil and a stronger ignition box ... anyone
have any comments or anything on those ??? The wiring I have is a bit old
and brittle, so this new stuff looks kind of tempting ...

Just my $.02
wish

96 Mustang GT 5spd 4.6L
73ish 1/2ton 4x4 6.4L
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Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 08:33:10 -0600
From: "Jeffery Hansen"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 71 C-6 - 429 Thunderbird

Okay okay - trucks been parked now two months with the NP435 sounding like a
dinasours baby rattle. Got a C-6/torque converter/flex plate yesterday from
a buddy who got it from a buddy who bought the whole car from our Navy base.
Car only had 38,00 original miles - owner died on active duty back in 80-81
and it's been parked ever since in base storage - Admiral finally gave it
the go ahead to be sold figuring if the family wanted it - they'd have come
by now. Made me sick to see that car dismantled - leather interior -
perfect condition, etc.. It was bought for $200 - but the 429 was stuck,
froze, welded - they worked on it three days - finally parted the car out.
But who cares - this is becoming a long story. I got the C-6 yesterday for
my 79 F-150 4WD Muny Pit. Already told I have to change out the output
shaft to mate it to my NP205 transfer case - my question is - if anybody
goes what was in those awesome Birds - and would be confident to say: is
this tranny be the "wide" ratio everyone says put in this truck, or just
making an educated guess without tearing it apart.?
I got no luck man - after sitting there two months - me gone all over the
Union deer hunting - I decided Sunday night to start it in the blizzard to
let it run/charge the battery. (Don't do this often because the Counter
Shaft bearing is REALLY gone and the clutch thing gets old holding it there
forever) Let it run up to temp - 10-15 minutes - shut it off and went
inside. Three hours later - neighbor calls me: "You know your brake lights
are on?" Battery deader-n-heck. My luck - REALLY - anybody want a truck -
it's 'bout new.
Jeffery A. Hansen, HMC(SW/AW/FMF) USN
Independent Duty Hospital Corpsman
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Date: Thu, 09 Dec 1999 09:42:01 -0500
From: James Oxley
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - New clutch for 400 - ideas?

William S. Hart wrote:
>
> > After hearing the good advice of G Peters regarding clutches - first that
> > he'd prefer to use an "after market HD unit of some kind FOR SURE" (engine
> > too much for clutch) and second that the diaphragm type can be
> > more reliable
> > than the three finger (lever?) type - I am stuck.
> >
> > Except no one in town has a "heavy-duty" clutch for the 400 / 351M.
> >
> > I am hoping someone knows of an online source of these that ships
> > Fedex....
> > uh...? Or any other recommendations. (i.e., sell me on the regular or,
> > cheaper yet, lever type clutch.)
> >
>

I've been using and abusing my Mean Green clutch for 7 years on my
351M. For the past 2 years, I have run 44" tires with the stock gears
and broken many drivetrain parts, but the clutch keeps on going. I am
going to a motor soon, but the clutch works so well, I'm just going to
leave it. It is a 12 inch clutch, which I bel. is an inch oversize, but
it fits on std flywheel. I think they go for about 300$, phone is
412-238-7319.

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Date: Thu, 09 Dec 1999 07:11:15 PST
From: "Christopher Worley"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - New clutch for 400 - ideas?

try www.wrenchhead.com, I have found they have a lot of hard to find parts,
they also ship fedex.


Chris
'67 F100 LWB
'93 F150 SC


>From: "Jeff Norville"
>Reply-To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
>To: FTE
>Subject: FTE 61-79 - New clutch for 400 - ideas?
>Date: Wed, 08 Dec 1999 23:22:18 -0800
>
>Howdy gang:
>
>After hearing the good advice of G Peters regarding clutches - first that
>he'd prefer to use an "after market HD unit of some kind FOR SURE" (engine
>too much for clutch) and second that the diaphragm type can be more
>reliable
>than the three finger (lever?) type - I am stuck.
>
>Engine's out, flywheel and radiator are getting work done, now it's time to
>put the new motor together.
>
>Except no one in town has a "heavy-duty" clutch for the 400 / 351M.
>
>I am hoping someone knows of an online source of these that ships Fedex....
>uh...? Or any other recommendations. (i.e., sell me on the regular or,
>cheaper yet, lever type clutch.)
>
>Looks like a parts hunt to Bakersfield or Fresno this weekend for the HD.
>
>Thanks for any input.
>
>Jeff
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Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 10:12:48 -0600
From: "Jeffery Hansen"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - OOPS!

I said: "is this tranny be the "wide" ratio" Sorry about that - this
Southern Missouri Redneck has been in the Navy, specifically - in Chicago
tooo l o n g.
Jeffery A. Hansen, HMC(SW/AW/FMF) USN
Independent Duty Hospital Corpsman
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Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 08:13:00 -0800
From: djohnson lem10.med.navy.mil (Douglas Johnson)
Subject: FTE 61-79 - New clutch for 400 - ideas?

>I am hoping someone knows of an online source of these that ships Fedex..
Jeff,
I don't know about fedex, but Jegs does ship overnight UPS. I was looking
back through my
last catalog and they carry a diaphragm setup from Hays. I used a similar
setup in my 79 F150
a few years back and I agree with Gary, much smoother and stronger setup.

>Looks like a parts hunt to Bakersfield or Fresno this weekend for the HD.

Just how many of us are there stuck in this state? If you ever get near
Lemoore drop me a line, I'll buy
the first round (of coffee...).

Doug Johnson
64 F100 360transplant/C6/Dana60 POSI!(original)

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Date: Thu, 09 Dec 1999 10:20:47 -0600
From: David.R.John deluxe.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 4x4 engine and tranny removal

Jeff wrote:
>> i'm pulling the engine and tranny out of the ext cab 250, has anyone
ever
>>tried to pull the engine and trans (351m/c6)out as a unit?

Well in doing my tranny swap and motor work on my 78 F250 4x4 Supercab. I
put the motor (460) and C6 IN together as a unit, with the headers on too :
=) (Now that was a sight to see on the cherry picker!!). This truck also
has air! One thing to note since this was a switch from 4 spd to auto so I
did have the cross member out, so not sure if this feat would have been
possible with it in. It was very tight but it went smooth with the cherry
picker sliding the motor back perfectly as it came down. I then put the
cross member in and bolted it up, went to put the tcase in and found that
it was to tight of fit to maneuver so I had to unbolt the cross member
again :=
can be). With the crossmember unbolted from frame and not the tranny,
lower it down with a jack to give you more room to get the tcase lined up.
It is a 2 person job and to be honest I thought there was no way in he** we
were going to get it on, but the tranny shaft and the lip that slides into
the tcase plus the alignment peg made it no problem. They came apart much
harder than they went together (tranny and tcase). To me the hassle of
dealing with the removal of the cross member is far less than trying to put
the tranny in from the bottom. The housing of the C6 is so tall that it is
hard to get it under the truck (unless you have a hoist Gary). I had my
donor truck on ramps in front and still had to take the tranny off of the
jack to slide out from under the truck.

Finally I have done something that may help someone else :=)

David John
78 F250 4x4 Supercab 460 C6

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Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 11:58:27 -0500
From: am14 daimlerchrysler.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Chewed out

Gary writes: >>Lest I get chewed out again for being too technical,

Who... ME...... You know I was just joshing you, I hope.

Azie

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Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 12:00:39 -0500
From: am14 daimlerchrysler.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Whack it

Gary writes: >>be carefull not to whack on it so hard or in a direction
that it will damage

Now I understand that perfectly. No techicnalities there at all.

Azie
Ardmore, Al.

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Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 12:16:30 -0500
From: am14 daimlerchrysler.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Dist won't seat

Gene G. writes: >>Took out the dizzy and shifted it but now it WOULD NOT
go back in.

Been there - Done that. Many times on my old FE's in particular. Problem
is most likely the oil pump shaft is al;igned right to seat in the bottom
of the dist. I usually put the dist down as far as it will go with the
dist cap off, install the rotor button and while exerting downward force on
the dist with the naked hand, bump the starter - several bumps may be
necessary, but it always worked for me.

Good luck.

Azie
Ardmore, Al.

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Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 11:36:41 -0800 (PST)
From: rich may
Subject: FTE 61-79 - need someone to decode for me

I have a 1968 390GT. I have recently found out that
the intake is off a '63(so I was told). I also bought
some headers for it, and guess what....they don't
work. The number on the heads are "C8AE-H". There are
bolt holes over each port and under the end two, holes
on the sides of the end two, and two in the middle of
the flange and there are someothers that are lying
around just for the fun of it.. The headers that I
recently purchased were Dynomax ceramic coated for a
65-76 352-428. Can someone please tell me what is
wrong?? IF any of you do have these heads on any of
your motors, what are you running for headers??

Thanks
Rich

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Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 17:44:15 EST
From: Lukes67 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - need someone to decode for me

Rich,
I don't know if there is a difference in a regular 390 and a 390GT heads.I
had a 390 in a 70 model F100 and used Eagle one headers. They bolted right on
with no problem but I did have to double gasket them. I hope I helped you
out. If you have any other questions please feel free to email me at
Lukes67 aol.com.
Thanks,
Luke


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Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 14:47:06 -0800
From: "Hogan, Tom"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Replacement Glove Box Insert

I'm pretty sure that 73-79 will be the same.

Tom H

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From: William Whited [mailto:f10074 ford-trucks.com]
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To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Replacement Glove Box Insert


It would be great to get plastic instead I hate those cardboard things.

NTesla333 aol.com wrote:

> I have found a plastic moulding company, that makes plastic glove box
insert
> replacements for J**ps and IH Scouts, that is interested in making
> replacements for Ford trucks. I own a 78 F250 and my cardboard glove box
is
> disintegrating so I definiately want one. Are any of you other folks
> interested in a replacement as well? If I can get a good response, I may
be
> able to get this company to custom mold these inserts.
> Finally, were the cardboard glove box inserts the same for several years??
> What years and what models? Please to help.
>
> Robert Bowen
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Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 18:41:06 EST
From: IanBoss69 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Replacement Glove Box Insert

In a message dated 12/8/99 8:29:27 PM Eastern Standard Time,
GMontgo930 aol.com writes:

> I own a 78 F250 and my cardboard glove box is
> disintegrating so I definiately want one.

I just made my own out of extra sheet metal, but when i built it i made it
deeper and wider so now i can accually fit stuff in there.

Ian
79 F250 4x4 4spd 351M
True Blue Ford Blue
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Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 18:57:39 EST
From: WEDIVE247 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Replacement Glove Box Insert

In a message dated 12/9/1999 6:43:51 PM EST, IanBoss69 aol.com writes:


deeper and wider so now i can accually fit stuff in there. >>

Yea , but does it look like you made it out of sheet-metal ?
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Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 19:04:04 EST
From: IanBoss69 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Replacement Glove Box Insert

In a message dated 12/9/99 7:01:14 PM Eastern Standard Time,
WEDIVE247 aol.com writes:

> Yea , but does it look like you made it out of sheet-metal ?

Accually no,,,I used some extra rhino lining from a friend to give it a
little less "homemade" be careful though if you try and make one,,,,dont
make it so big you cant get it in through the bottom of the dash.

Ian
79 F250 4x4 4spd 351M
True Blue Ford Blue
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Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 19:26:25 -0500
From: tfreeman murphyfarms.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - need someone to decode for me

Rich,

The 390 GT heads have a different bolt pattern to them. I have a set currently
in my spare bedroom ready to bolt to my new motor. When I
had them at the machine shop, I had them do the standard over/under bolt patter.
The 390GT heads, if I remember right, were used in cars that had limited space
for attaching the exhaust manifolds and modified these heads to accomodate that.
They were used in Mustangs and Fairlanes. Maybe some others, but I'm not sure.
You can either take them off and have them drilled and tapped or have a header
company make some for you. I know Stan at Stan's Headers will make them, but
he's a little pricey. I understand they are high quality headers though.

Hope this helps!

- -Ted




rich may on 12/09/99 02:36:41 PM

Please respond to 61-79-list ford-trucks.com

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cc: (bcc: Ted Freeman/MURPHY_FAMILY_FARMS)
Subject: FTE 61-79 - need someone to decode for me



I have a 1968 390GT. I have recently found out that
the intake is off a '63(so I was told). I also bought
some headers for it, and guess what....they don't
work. The number on the heads are "C8AE-H". There are
bolt holes over each port and under the end two, holes
on the sides of the end two, and two in the middle of
the flange and there are someothers that are lying
around just for the fun of it.. The headers that I
recently purchased were Dynomax ceramic coated for a
65-76 352-428. Can someone please tell me what is
wrong?? IF any of you do have these heads on any of
your motors, what are you running for headers??

Thanks
Rich

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Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 16:37:47 -0800
From: "Robert Gunter"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - New to list, couple Q's

Greetings all,

I recently purchased a 77 Ford Quadravan (Pathfinder 4X4 Conversion). I am on
the email list for 4X4 vans and found this one too.

Couple of questions:

Does anyone know a source for weatherstripping for the side sliding door and the
rear barn doors. I am hoping to find suitable replacements by the foot if
possible. I got the windows and front doors done through JC Whitney, but they
don't have the rest as replacement parts. Anyone have experience with their
weatherstrip by the foot? If so, what type works for Ford Vans?

I am also interested in any tips you may have for raising the feul economy of a
460 ci engine.

I am trying to keep it as simple to work on and Stock as possible, but don't
object were it makes good sense to modify.

Thanks for your assistance,

Rob G

rjgunter icnpharm.com

The Mystery Machine is a 77 Ford E250 Quadravan, 460 ci, 3.73 gears with a C6
Tranny.


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Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 16:44:26 -0800
From: "Southerland, Rich"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - New to list, couple Q's

I found these guys a couple months ago. I saw a guy selling a set of them
on ebay and contacted the company directly. Here is the response I got:
For the '75-91 Ford vans we have:
Driver Door Seal, Part # LM 110-VL, $25.00/each
Passenger Door Seal, Part # LM 110-VR, $25.00/each
Sliding Door Seal, Part # LM 110-VS, $35.00/each

Metro Moulded Parts, Inc.
11610 Jay Street
Minneapolis MN 55448
Phone 1-800-878-2237
Fax 612-757-7228
sales metrommp.com

I got a set of the front door seals and they are fine.

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.metrommp.com

- -----Original Message-----
From: Robert Gunter [mailto:rjgunter icnpharm.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 09, 1999 4:38 PM
To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - New to list, couple Q's


Greetings all,

I recently purchased a 77 Ford Quadravan (Pathfinder 4X4 Conversion). I am
on
the email list for 4X4 vans and found this one too.

Couple of questions:

Does anyone know a source for weatherstripping for the side sliding door and
the
rear barn doors. I am hoping to find suitable replacements by the foot
if
possible. I got the windows and front doors done through JC Whitney, but
they
don't have the rest as replacement parts. Anyone have experience with their
weatherstrip by the foot? If so, what type works for Ford Vans?

I am also interested in any tips you may have for raising the feul economy
of a
460 ci engine.

I am trying to keep it as simple to work on and Stock as possible, but don't
object were it makes good sense to modify.

Thanks for your assistance,

Rob G

rjgunter icnpharm.com

The Mystery Machine is a 77 Ford E250 Quadravan, 460 ci, 3.73 gears with a
C6
Tranny.


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Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 20:30:36 -0500
From: "HARLEY A PUTNAM"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Plastic Glove Box Inserts

Robert, I would love to have three to fit 67 thru 72 series F100, If the
price is right!

Andy Putnam

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Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 18:00:01 -0800 (PST)
From: canzus seanet.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - duraspark conversion woes

At 06:48 PM 8:12:99 PST, gene gardner wrote:

Major Snippage.....

>(5) Rather than try to reposition the dizzy again we decided, by a unanimous
>2-0 vote, to just switch the spark plug wires on the cap (in effect moving
>the position of #1) so we could now move it enough to be timed. Now it runs
>great ..

As I hate to sound like a smart a$$, Why didn't you do this to begin with??

Steve & the Rockette
68 F100, 390cid, FMX
63 F100, 292cid, 3speed
72 Capri 2000, hers
73 Capri 2600,tube frame going in.....
73 MGB GT, Our Toy
94 SHO, SWMBO's
98 Contour SVT, Mine, Mine, All Mine....

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Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 13:11:52 -0400
From: Brent Cole
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 4x4 engine and tranny removal

That C6 is heavy! I would lower the tranny first then pull the motor by
itself. That 400 block isn't a light weight either.

Brent


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Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 18:55:40 -0800
From: "Chris Samuel"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re 400 Clutch.

Jeff.

I'll agree with Gary that you should use an aftermarket HD clutch.
I'll go farther and say that under no circumstances should anyone ever even
think about a "remanufactured clutch" or any "remanufactured clutch
components", period. Walk if ya have to.
I'll disagree with Gary on the clutch type assessment. I have run
Borg&Beck, Long, and Diaphragm clutches for years on the street, off road
and on the track, and the only problems have been operator induced. Both of
the "finger" types are better for racing then a diaphragm.
Of course... I have never had a Champion Plug reliability issue in the last
two+ decades!-)
Check out Centerforce clutches. Summit, Jeggs, your local Hot Rod Shop;
Diaphragm type and they work.

Muel


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Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 22:33:48 -0500
From: "Matthew Schwartz"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Electrical problem

I have a great electrical problem. Symptoms include a battery that will
drainin a few days if the truck is not run. Other symptoms include extremely
dim interior lights and headlights when running or not. Another symptom may
be more important for diagnosis. The dash lights, at times, will flash and
both dash blinker indicators will stay on solid...then everything will go
off...then normal...then back to the lights dimming... with the exception of
the blinker indicators which stay on bright.

Before I start tracing current through wires with an ammeter, has anyone
found a culprit to these symptoms?

I know.....start tracing wires :

Matt

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Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1999 23:10:40 EST
From: GMontgo930 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 4x4 engine and tranny removal

In a message dated 12/9/99 9:53:08 PM Eastern Standard Time, ColeJB ftc-i.net
writes:


itself. That 400 block isn't a light weight either.

Brent
>>
it might be heavy, but it's sure a whole lot lighter than my NP205 xfer case!

George
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Date: Thu, 09 Dec 1999 20:21:04 -0800
From: "S.Harkema"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Glove Box

>Finally, were the cardboard glove box inserts the same for several >years??
>What years and what models? Please to help.
!

I have a 79 insert in my 76,probably the same from 73-79.A/C equiped
box is different than heater only box.The A/C box will fit either one,so
thats the one I would repro.
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Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 00:23:33 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: FTE 61-79 - ADMIN: New Ford trucks

Check out the news section of the web site. Several Ford
Motor Company press releases have been added about the
2000 F150s, including new models and also about the new
Explorer Sport.

Ken Payne
Admin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts

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Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 01:14:51 EST
From: SHill48337 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 71 C-6 - 429 Thunderbird

In a message dated 12/9/99 9:37:35 AM Eastern Standard Time,
billybobjoehansen hotmail.com writes:


my 79 F-150 4WD Muny Pit. Already told I have to change out the output
shaft to mate it to my NP205 transfer case - my question is - if anybody
goes what was in those awesome Birds - and would be confident to say: >>

Hey Chief, I do not know if this tranny is a wide ratio. But I do know that
you have to tear the tranny down to parade rest to change that shaft out.
Hobby shops are very good places to do this work. Good luck.
Burt Hill Kennewick WA 1972 F-250 4x4 460 MMCS(SS) Retired....


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