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61-79-list-digest Thursday, November 25 1999 Volume 03 : Number 435



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Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1961-1979 Trucks and Vans
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In this issue:

FTE 61-79 - headers
FTE 61-79 - Suggestions
FTE 61-79 - Re: Lil About Me
Re: FTE 61-79 - Suggestions
Re: FTE 61-79 - 428CJ Intake
FTE 61-79 - FE tbi
Re: FTE 61-79 - Gas Hog 428
Re: FTE 61-79 - 390 or 429, that is the question.
FTE 61-79 - FTE On The Island
FTE 61-79 - Re: Apprenticeship, Bio

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Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 18:06:57 -0800 (PST)
From: rich may
Subject: FTE 61-79 - headers

Does anyone out there know where I can get headers for
a 390GT? I don't know if they changed exhaust port
designs for the different years of the FE's. I checked
around and I found one place(auto krafters):

header for 16 bolt cylinder head only, KY6808, $447.95

Can I use truck headers, or do they have to be special
since it came out of a mustang? I am in a bind and am
not willing to pay that much. Thanks in advance.

Rich May


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Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 18:37:19 PST
From: "White Wolf"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Suggestions

Ok.. when I rebuilt my 352 back in April-May my '66 F100 ran great.. now
that its cold out however its not doing so good?
Any Ideas?
I've long suspected that my ol' 2-barrel carb is a piece of trash so I
thinks its time to upgrade. And since Im going to work on it anyways, might
as well go to a 4-barrel right?
Has anyone done this to their 352 and if so could you give me some
suggestions on which manifold/carbeurator to go with and maybe even where
you purchased yours?

TIA

Corey Johnson
'66 F100 352
'91 Katana GSX600F
'84 Magna VF700C - needs work (well I guess they all do)

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Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 22:13:10 -0800
From: "Bob"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: Lil About Me

>He learned a lot about mechanics. I
learned a lot about being a father.

Been reading this list for a number of years, & this is the absolutly most
profound statment yet!! And how true it is too

Bob

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Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 21:45:35 -0800
From: Bryan Kirking
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Suggestions

Does it run bad all the time (it is cold outside) or does it get better as
the engine warms up? My first thought is choke, perhaps a lower temp Tstat?



At 06:37 PM 11/24/99 PST, you wrote:
>Ok.. when I rebuilt my 352 back in April-May my '66 F100 ran great.. now
>that its cold out however its not doing so good?
> Any Ideas?
>I've long suspected that my ol' 2-barrel carb is a piece of trash so I
>thinks its time to upgrade. And since Im going to work on it anyways, might
>as well go to a 4-barrel right?
> Has anyone done this to their 352 and if so could you give me some
>suggestions on which manifold/carbeurator to go with and maybe even where
>you purchased yours?
>
>TIA
>
>Corey Johnson
>'66 F100 352
>'91 Katana GSX600F
>'84 Magna VF700C - needs work (well I guess they all do)
>
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Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 20:23:12 -0800 (PST)
From: canzus seanet.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 428CJ Intake

At 06:01 PM 24:11:99 -0800, Bill Ballinger wrote:
>
>I'd like to have a 428 CJ iron intake for the 390 I'm
>building for my '65 F250 4X4. If anyone has one they
>would like to sell or would trade for a Performer 390
>please let me know.

Is the Performer a spreadbore intake??

Steve & the Rockette
68 F100, 390cid, FMX
63 F100, 292cid, 3speed
72 Capri 2000, hers
73 Capri 2600,tube frame going in.....
73 MGB GT, Our Toy
94 SHO, SWMBO's
97 Contour, Mine

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Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 00:22:46 -0500
From: "Redden"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - FE tbi

> TBI 390 motor.

>>Must .... get .... info .... :) How do you like the TBI ? Whose is it ?
>>(holley?) how hard is it to tune/adjust, how often do you need to do that
?

>>More info more info more info more info ...

>>In case you can't tell I'm definitely interested in fuel injection on
these
>>old FE's :)

>>?Just my $.02
>>wish


The guy I got the truck from put in a new, stock 390 with a Performer
manifold, headers and an Accell 750 cfm (General Malfunction) TBI kit.
Ignition is Crane with rev limiter.

You have to tweak it with a laptop if you want to be precise. Shell out a
couple hundred for the interface.
The mixture curve that was setup already seems to do great though; no
missing, fouling
(195degree thermostat and timing isn't stock).
The acceleration is amazing for an old 4x4. Starts right up on cold
mornings, too.
New trucks see me coming in their rearview mirror and aren't quite sure why
I can keep up.

The only thing that is missing from the Accell kit installation is the
Oxygen sensor(s) in the header(s).
Seems fine for now, though. If it ain't broke, I ain't gonna fix it, as it
kicks asphalt now.

mike

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Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 01:24:38 EST
From: SevnD2 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Gas Hog 428

In a message dated 11/24/1999 1:52:09 PM Eastern Standard Time,
dpearson ctc.edu writes:


you are wearing flame retardant clothing...
>>
Oops , I didn't mean to step on the toes of any hardcore FE people ! I too
love them , , but I have the itch to try the cleveland just once to see how
it can do . I may wind up staying with the FE and other factory installed
engines for the trucks after trying the swap . I do have fun with all the
power of this 428 , until the gauge is on E :-(
Any comments are welcome , so go ahead and let me have it ! I can take it .
Happy Thanksgiving !
Rollie H. Hunt
King N.C.
1976 F100 Explorer , 391FT (428 cu in)
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Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 01:57:31 EST
From: GMontgo930 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 390 or 429, that is the question.

In a message dated 11/22/1999 8:54:42 PM Eastern Standard Time,
dans copper.net writes:

>
> Enjoyed reading your message. I had a 390 that I rebuilt years ago and
> fell
> in love with it. I swore that engine sang when I hit the higher RPM's. I
> guess that reveals my vote.
>
> In fact, I miss that engine so much that I've gone and purchased another to
> rebuild (mild) w/ a C6. Before buying the engine I stumbled on a decent
'79
> F100 (2WD) w/ a 302...C4 combo. You know where I'm going with this. But
> I've heard the frame was narrowed on the late '70's F-series and the 390
may
> not set down in and bolt up very easily.
>
> I'm being patient with this question because the 'ole 302 is running like a
> champ (for transportation) but the 390 is tore down to the short block and
> has taken over my 1-car garage untill I make a decision.
>
> Any insight is appreciated....Dan
>
>
For what it's worth, I one had a '73 F100 with a 302 & C4 that I replaced
with a 390 & C6. I had the original donor truck for all the parts I needed.
Anyway, it all bolted right in. Shouldn't be any problems as I got mine
changed over easily.
George
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Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 23:47:51 -0800
From: sparky mail.island.net
Subject: FTE 61-79 - FTE On The Island

John Lord wrote:
>I have lived in Victoria. B.C. Canada all my life.

You havent lived in Victoria all of your life :) Just all of it so far :)

Doug Neely wrote:
>I live on Vancouver Island (born and raised here)
>ps. Sparky, drop me a line maybe we can start an Island meal deal.

Well that is three of us "Islanders". Anymore? The "Island Meal Deal"
sounds like a great idea.
FTE content I intend on driving my truck to the "Island Meal Deal" meeting.

Sparky
73ish F250
4x4 3?0FE

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Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 00:05:06 -0800
From: "Jeff Norville"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: Apprenticeship, Bio

Ok, Denny, here's more than you wanted to hear:

Was apprenticed on Dad's passed-down '73 Ch velle SS after cracking a valve
on the return drive from Valdez, AK (salmon fishing '93). A mechanic friend
here in Porterville helped me with a top end rebuild as I was a starving
college student. And having been raised only by mom since age 2 - scary,
right? - I didn't get much exposure to things mechanical...didn't like to
get oil on my hands. That tiny 'rebuild' made me one of the more
knowledgeable mechanics on the LA campus, and I ended up working on several
engines including the Geo Department's drill rig mounted on some HUGE 195?
Ford flatbed - and I destroyed it's master cylinder... (Ford enters my
life.)

Now I am swapping plants on this '79 Bronco, borrowing the "mechanic
friend's" (turned rancher/online investor) hoist & heavy toys. I'm still
starving, an unemployed college grad with degrees in geology & enviro
science, with a penchant for desert & ocean and the unfortunate motto "Morte
Ante Servitium." Actually am just between 'jobs,' if you can call them work
- - left Monterey where I was a sea kayak instructor, and hope to work for a
sea kayak outfit in Santa Barbara in January after a healthy round of Baja's
Sea of Cortez next month. (Enter the Bronco.)

Never took shop; my high school girlfiend did. Wish I had. But I do enjoy
reading - Helm, Chilton, Heidegger, Haynes - & am always learning. (Enter
FTE newsgroup.)

Finally, I suspect there _is_ something genetic to things SAE since all I
learned from Dad was in the letter describing the family tendancy to "enjoy
getting greasy while repairing jalopys." And the Super Sport with swivel
seats and a Hurst shifter... And a receding hairline. (Enter this engine
swap.)

I will soon be opening my ignorance on many topics mechanical with this
upgrade - be seeing more of me, albeit shorter posts, promise - and if
anyone wants kayak rolling/Baja paddling tips email me off list. :)

- Jeff (the sea kayak guy who really does know the receding hairline gene....


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