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 ford-trucks.com (61-79-list-digest) To: 61-79-list-digest ford-trucks.com Subject: 61-79-list-digest V3 #434 Reply-To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com Sender: owner-61-79-list-digest ford-trucks.com Errors-To: owner-61-79-list-digest ford-trucks.com Precedence: bulk 61-79-list-digest Wednesday, November 24 1999 Volume 03 : Number 434 ======================================================================= Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1961-1979 Trucks and Vans Visit our web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com/ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - To unsubscribe, send email to: majordomo ford-trucks.com with the words "unsubscribe 61-79-list-digest" in the body of the message. ======================================================================= In this issue: FTE 61-79 - A LiL Mo Info FTE 61-79 - OK some more VIN numbers RE: FTE 61-79 - Starters RE: FTE 61-79 - Rancheros, Falcon? Re: FTE 61-79 - Found Dana 60 5 lug!! Re: FTE 61-79 - 5.0 or 5.2 FTE 61-79 - 390/460 flywheels FTE 61-79 - Contour replacement? was: 390-460 Flywheels RE: FTE 61-79 - '79 Bronco Rebuild - Two Birds FTE 61-79 - Gas Hog 428 FTE 61-79 - A LIL MO' INFO Re: FTE 61-79 - Tailgates RE: FTE 61-79 - '79 Bronco Rebuild - Two Birds Re: FTE 61-79 - '79 Bronco Rebuild - Two Birds RE: FTE 61-79 - Clutch not quite right RE: FTE 61-79 - Tetraethyl Lead? FTE 61-79 - RE: FTE PF Group - Pigeon Forge Dates Re: FTE 61-79 - A LIL MO' INFO RE: FTE 61-79 - The SWMBO rule...... FTE 61-79 - 65 F100 & lead additive Re: FTE 61-79 - Gas Hog 428 FTE 61-79 - Re: front diff (oops) FTE 61-79 - My Bio Too RE: FTE 61-79 - Starters FTE 61-79 - Re:Thanksgiving Wishes` FTE 61-79 - Dana 24+ bio Re: FTE 61-79 - Gas Hog 428 Re: FTE 61-79 - Dana 24+ bio RE: FTE 61-79 - TBI 390 RE: FTE 61-79 - 65 F100 & lead additive FTE 61-79 - Happy Thanksgiving FTE 61-79 - FTE 61-79- Apprenticeship RE: FTE 61-79 - 390/460 flywheels FTE 61-79 - FUNNY but very lil FTE content =( RE: FTE 61-79 - FTE 61-79- Apprenticeship RE: FTE 61-79 - FTE 61-79- Apprenticeship Re: FTE 61-79 - A LIL MO' INFO FTE 61-79 - Re: Bronco Rebuild Re: FTE 61-79 - Towing Snirt Re: FTE 61-79 - '79 Bronco Rebuild - Two Birds Re: FTE 61-79 - FTE 61-79- Apprenticeship Re: FTE 61-79 - FTE 61-79- Apprenticeship FTE 61-79 - 428CJ Intake ======================================================================= ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 02:33:17 -0800 From: John Lord Subject: FTE 61-79 - A LiL Mo Info Time to add my two bit's Im a 31 year old Male with my own computer business. Married, divorced and married agian with 3 kids. I have lived in Victoria. B.C. Canada all my life. I own a 74 F-250 4x4 Crew Cab (my fun truck) With a Hop'd up 351 W on propane. (self installed) Std trans, Dana 60 rear and Dana 44 front. I have been around the almighty Ford truck all my life. My father only owns fords and taught me right. He is a retired machinist, with his own shop giving me access to the ability to rebuild my own engines or repair any problem that comes along. i do sideline work with the valve grinding equipment he bought to keep me out of trouble in my teens. I have been skulking in this list for about a year now, offering a few sugestions from time to time wishing i could offer you all the services of the shop to fix those really odd problems that come up. Iv'e been saving the best for last...... My baby is a 1967 Mercrury -3/4 ton currently in need of a lot of TLC under the hood. (blew the trans in a freak snowstorm 3 years ago making it into a ground up restoration) == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 19:57:05 +0800 From: "David and Cherie" Subject: FTE 61-79 - OK some more VIN numbers >I have just spent all day dismantling my F 350 for rebuilding. >I am curious to the VIN numbers (although here in Australia we didn't get >VIN numbers until late 80's). > >I think I have cracked the Australian Compliance tag but I have found on the >Chassis 2 extra sets of numbers. >They are, one set on the top of the rear cab mount on what to you yanks >would be the drivers side (left), >It is > 37TA > 5A111-A > >The other number is on the right side on top of the chassis rail just behind >the radiator support panel where it bolts to the chassis, >It is, > FD3987S > >The last letter could be a 5 but I think its an S. >So what can you all tell me about this, I would assume since they were all >built in America you all might know more than me. > >A couple of clue's, Its a 1968, F350, Dana 70 rear, 240 six as standard. >Your help would be most apprecative. > >Regards David, >West Australia. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 07:14:39 -0500 From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)" Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Starters I work in the plant where the starters are made and have been here since they quit making the long shaft, reverse engagement "Inertia" type used on older engines, I believe including the flat heads and, of course, large truck engines. They continued to use these on truck engines after the positive engagement type most of us are familiar with came out. Does anyone know what engines this long shaft starter was used on? I believe the 65 had the standard 4.5" 3 pole positive engagement like we had right up to the late 80's when the gear drive starter came out but don't know exactly when thay first came out. Initially the armature was soldered but later it was electronically welded. The solder could be melted out under hard use but the welds either were good or not right from the start so if you got a good one it was probably good forever. This process started back in the 70's, don't remember exactly. I used to run the solder pot too and then the prototype welders and the epoxy varnisher etc.. :-) The long shaft is very long and had to be straightened by hand on a press (I did that job on occasion) and used a long bendix drive with a spring on it. The shaft had no splines and the drive was pinned to it and contained all the moving parts. BTW, the ford, positive engagement starter has a very good reputation and is probably the most reliable starter ever invented. It was very simple and fairly strong. It is very common for them to last well over 100k miles and much more, depending on driving of course. Around town I wouldn't expect it to get as many miles as if used for long distance commuting etc.. I have noticed though that the 460 does put it to the test. This is the only engine I've ever had that I had to replace this type of starter on that I can recall and I haven't had a ford yet that got less than 120k before I sold it, scrapped it or modified it :-) - -- Michigan, Pot Hole Jumping, 78 Bronco Loving, Gary http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.thewowfactor.com/bigbroncos/detail.cfm?detailid=167 - -- > here's a good one. How common is it for a starter to last > almost 35 years > and 360,000 miles? I've still got the original starter on my > 65 F100! I == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 05:16:01 -0800 From: "Hogan, Tom" Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Rancheros, Falcon? The first car (actually truck) magazine I ever bought featured an AMC gremlin that received this treatment. - -----Original Message----- From: GMontgo930 aol.com [mailto:GMontgo930 aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 1999 9:51 PM To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Rancheros, Falcon? In a message dated 11/22/1999 12:34:17 PM Eastern Standard Time, gpeters3 visteon.com writes: > Looks like a 58 something or other....? Wonder what a 78 lincoln would look > like made into a Ranchero....:-) Be a good place to practice my metal > working skills :-) > > -- > Michigan, Pot Hole Jumping, > 78 Bronco Loving, Gary > http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.thewowfactor.com/bigbroncos/detail.cfm?detailid=167 > -- Ive got an old article where a guy did this with a 74 Pinto wagon. Made for a real neat looking custom truck for the occasional bail of hay! George == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 09:07:40 -0500 From: "Joe " Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Found Dana 60 5 lug!! I second that..I've been to Harry's..Its amazing...And the prices are great! Joe Langhorne,PA - ---------- > From: FORDTRKNUT aol.com > To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com > Subject: FTE 61-79 - Found Dana 60 5 lug!! > Date: Sunday, November 21, 1999 10:03 PM > > Hey guys & gals!!! I found a Dana 60 rear from a 1970-1972 F-100 4x4. It > not a full floter rear, its a semi floater as they call it. I did not buy > it, but thought someone on the list could use it. I went to "Harrys > U-Pull-It" in West Hazelton, PA. I do not have the phone number there, but > they are open 7 days a week. Usually they open at 8:00am and close at > 4:00pm. Juts call 411 for info on the phone number. I picked up a Dana 44 > front axel out of a 1979 F-250 for $40.00 (plus $12.00 for core charges on > the rotors). They have great prices, and a real neat & organized yard. If > you need any information...just ask!!! Wayne Grabley > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 13:49:03 +0000 (GMT) From: David Henderson Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 5.0 or 5.2 > here's a good one. How common is it for a starter to last almost 35=20 years > and 360,000 miles? I've still got the original starter on my 65 F100!= =20 I > keep wondering when it's going to give out, although I haven't had any= > problems with it. In all those years/miles, I've only replaced the=20 other > 'major' components once (water pump, alternator, voltage regulator,=20 starter > solenoid). On Brownie, when I was removing the original engine after I completed=20 my rebuild, I also removed the original 20 year old starter and=20 alternator. When I bought him, everything on him was from the factory=20 (and looked like it ;^) ). Dave H PS Despite the message in my signature, I am proud of the way the=20 University of Texas alumni and students have supported all of the=20 Aggie students after the tragedy at A&M. Never been more proud to say=20 that I'm a Texan than now! - --=20 _ _| ~~. David Henderson \, _} DHenders VT.Edu \( Gig 'em Aggies! '93 Beat t.u.!! (That small non-significant liberal arts school in Austin, or that small slum area beside the capitol) Currently at: Interdepartmental Genetics Program 2010 Litton Reaves Hall Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University Blacksburg, VA 24061 (540)231-4773 (540)231-5014 DHenders VT.Edu http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.dasc.vt.edu/henderson/dhenderson.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 08:53:19 -0500 From: am14 daimlerchrysler.com Subject: FTE 61-79 - 390/460 flywheels Bill B. writes: >> FTE content: Does anyone know what year of 460 manual trans flywheels will work on a 390? The bolt patterns on the rear of the cranks are the same. Why are you getting a 460 flywheel for a 390??? The 390 standard flywheel is available still(or at least it was 2 years ago). There are probably more 360's in the salvage yards around here than there are 460's and they are a direct bolt in also. All FE's except the 410/428 and Cammer 427 use the Zero balance as does the 460. Any year 460 should bolt up though. Azie Ardmore, Al. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 08:07:39 -0600 From: John Strauss Subject: FTE 61-79 - Contour replacement? was: 390-460 Flywheels >Yeah, look at the Contour. The best all around >performing affordable car I've ever had and they go >out of production in 2000. I had a '95 and my present >'98 (which I just got back from the body shop) and >they both out shine (or shone) anything of the type >I've driven. You set the criuse on 75 and it deals >with it. It has that just right mix of give and >firmness to the suspension, and with the passive rear >steering you get spoiled to the handling on two lane >roads. The little 2.0 engine is a strong performer, I >liked the 5-speed better but the auto is fine. >Nothing anyone else makes of that size even comes >close in my book. But there they go. Everyone wants >a cheapa** Cavalier clone. Junk. The Feces (Focus?) >will be a poor replacement for it. > I thought the Focus was the replacement for the Escort, not the Contour. _ _| ~~. John Strauss \, *_} jstrauss inetport.com \( Texas Fight! == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 08:11:10 -0600 From: "William S. Hart" Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - '79 Bronco Rebuild - Two Birds > your not missing brackets for the shocks..I've seen 2 Bronco's > 78-79 that had > staggered shocks...One on the front arm and the other in the > middle...Strange > things i've seen from Ford > Ford's not the only one to stagger the rear shocks, actually the big 3 have all done it at one time or another ... heck our AMC Eagle had staggered rear shocks, it helps to control wheel hop and axle wrap ... the first Fords to see it if I remember right were the 428 CJ Mustang's in 68.5 ... 69 and 70 Boss 302's had it too ... I'd definitely keep it staggered if it were me ... if you want to ditch it though and can unbolt all the parts, let me know!!!! Just my $.02 wish 96 Mustang GT 5spd 4.6L 73ish 1/2ton 4x4 6.4L http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 09:18:06 -0500 From: am14 daimlerchrysler.com Subject: FTE 61-79 - Gas Hog 428 Rollie writes: >>Anyone have a cure for the quick gas usage problem of my trucks 428 ? :-) Yes I do!!! Price it to me very cheaply. Azie Ardmore, Al. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 08:28:09 -0600 From: "Alex Beshirs" Subject: FTE 61-79 - A LIL MO' INFO Howdy, I reckon its the new fad, so I figured I would jump in :) My name is Alex Beshirs and I live in Garland Texas. Thats just a little piece north of Dallas. I am 28 and just got married last month to a great woman I met on IRC. She moved down here from Michigan last January with her 3 young'uns and we have been happy since. I work for a company that does outsourcing for Microsoft. Basically, I am a lead over a team who supports Windows NT IP/RAS and Proxy. I own a '68 F-100. This is the first Ford I have owned. I got it from a friend who was moving out of state and needed to get rid of it. I am trying to keep it as original as I can. One thing though, her father moved the gear shifter from the column to the floor. I havent decided if I want to move it back up or leave it where it is. Any suggestions? Anyways, the body is straight, and I figure with a new paint job, and a few other parts, like an original type steering wheel, it will be back up to par. I reckon thats about all I can say about me. I really enjoy these emails, and I read quite a few of them too. :) ALEX BESHIRS, WINDOWS NT BOS TECHNICAL SUPPORT IP/RAS TECH LEAD 972-840-7007 x 7642 v-1abes mssupport.microsoft.com Men stumble over the truth from time to time, but most pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing happened -- Winston Churchill == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 06:55:05 -0800 From: Dennis Pearson Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Tailgates Thanks for your message at 07:50 PM 11/23/99 -0800, Hogan, Tom. Your message was: >Found this site. You guys looking for unibody tailgates might conntact them >and see if they have anything > >http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.pros-pick.com/index2.html > Thanks, Tom. There is one line on their page that slows me down a bit: "All Pro's Pick tailgates are $550.00 ." When I get a little(?) extra cash I might contact them. I'm starting to think it's not going to be cheap, though... Dennis Pearson in Kennewick, WA 1962 Unibody, short box, big window--351C 1966 F250 Custom Cab, 352, 4-speed 1962 short stepside (big empty space under the hood) I shortened this to only FT's http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://home.att.net/~dlpearson/levi.htm == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 10:20:59 -0500 From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)" Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - '79 Bronco Rebuild - Two Birds I have not done it myself but there are plenty of options for a built 400 which make it a worth while option for one who is not contemplating "total" power. The 400 will have more bottom end torque for any given configuration than the 351 due to it's stroke so is a very good choice for rock crawling. There are some really nice roller cams out there for this engine with rpm ranges which start very low, unlike the 460 which apparently is a race only application when you go to roller cams. Almost make a guy want to throw the stupid 460 away and get a 400 :-( Offenhauser also make a manifold for this engine to fit the Rochester which is the best rock crawling carb ever made I've been told. The shock set up you mention is stock. Both brackets you mention are OEM. The shocks are also different lengths so make sure you put the shorter one on the side with mount behind the axle so they don't bottom out or interfere with suspension droop. The factory quad shock setup uses two radius arm front bracket mounts and two "U" shaped brackets behind the axle or diametrical opposit of the original pair to complete the ballance. If you notice the holes for the second bracket are already in the other radius arm since the arms are identical and intershangeable in a quad shock setup. All you need to make it a quad shock are the upper mount brackets and another pair of the original lower brackets. - -- Michigan, Pot Hole Jumping, 78 Bronco Loving, Gary http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.thewowfactor.com/bigbroncos/detail.cfm?detailid=167 - -- > truth, I have been > tempted to put in a 400 as it would be such an easy upgrade. > My question - > IS it an upgrade? Neither M-block seems to have a huge > following, with all > am missing mounting brackets... On one side of the front > axle the shock > mounts to a bracket in the radius arm, just like it shows in > The Book, but > the other side has no bracket on the radius arm - instead the > shock was > mounted on a non-OEM bracket that is a cast part of the cap (front, or == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 10:40:06 -0500 From: James Oxley Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - '79 Bronco Rebuild - Two Birds Jeff Norville wrote: > > Howdy helpful folks: > > My questions in this post are about 1) that aged 351M I mentioned last week, > and 2) a suspension inconsistency. > > First - have found a rebuilt 351 M-block to swap into my 166,000+ mileage > Bronco, keeping it all stock - but now, at the moment of truth, I have been > tempted to put in a 400 as it would be such an easy upgrade. My question - > IS it an upgrade? Yes, even in stock form, there is a big difference. I own 3, 351M, 78/79 broncs and had driven stock 400 Broncs (also had a 79 F250 with 400). The 400 was faster than any of the other three. Interestingly, one of the 79's I have with fed emissions and 35" tires blows away my 79 Ca. emissions rig with 31" tires, everything else equal (both completely stock motors). > Neither M-block seems to have a huge following, with all > exceptions subscribing to this list - would this give me more power? It is easy to put in a 460, but it still costs money for stuff to do it convert right. this si money you could use for building the 400. If your rebuilding ground up, then a 460 might be the way to go, since you have to buy everything anyway. If your like me and have new or near new everything for a 351M except the internals, then going to 460 is going to be way more expensive than than building a 400. Or do > I care, since I mostly drive long distances to the desert and go really, > really slow over rocks? Just stick to adding TRW pistons to the 351M? If > you're an upgrade fan, know any hidden bugaboos to 400 conversion that would > haunt this shade tree kid? Especially in California? Nope, no one would ever know and it was a factory option!! > Second - while putting new front shocks into the beast we discovered that I > am missing mounting brackets... On one side of the front axle the shock > mounts to a bracket in the radius arm, just like it shows in The Book, but > the other side has no bracket on the radius arm - instead the shock was > mounted on a non-OEM bracket that is a cast part of the cap (front, or > opposite site of axle from radius arm - holds c-bushings in place), and not > present on the other side. The top brackets for the shocks are, on one > side, behind the wheel, and in FRONT of the wheel on the other side. I am > guessing this would drive somebody who knew better crazy - just makes me > nervous. That is factory, all 78/79 broncs came that way. > Is it some 4by-ers retrofit gone bad? Know where I can get brackets to make > both sides symmetrical (four shocks was the goal...)? Best to hunt down all > brackets in pickaparts (after the engine goes in)? You may need new radius arms also (on passeneger side). Many times you can not swap radius arm caps to get the other bracket on there and the radius arm itslef prob does not have the rear bracket on the drivers side (you could dril the holes to add this bracket if you find the bracket). OX == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 11:00:54 -0500 From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)" Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Clutch not quite right If it makes noise when you depress the pedal the throwout bearing is hitting on something or is bad. This should be dead smooth, there should be no feed back through the pedal from the rotating mass, it should be very smooth and quiet. If it isn't there is something wrong whether your mechanic thinks so or not! You could have either a pilot bushing issue or a transmission input shaft or internal bearing issue as well. The transmission will feed back quite a bit of it's vibration but the noise is due to the throwout bearing in one way or another, I'm reasonably sure. The clutch should have nothing to do with vibration when depressing the brake pedal unless the clutch pedal is mounted to the same shaft as the brake and is binding in some way so the brake is also depressing the clutch. If this is not the case then you have two separate issues. - -- Michigan, Pot Hole Jumping, 78 Bronco Loving, Gary http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.thewowfactor.com/bigbroncos/detail.cfm?detailid=167 - -- > I should have said that the noise APPEARS when I depress the > pedal. You > dont hear it when the clutch is engaged. > > Another thing, there is a lot of vibration that wasn't there > before the > clutch job. You feel it in the brake pedal mostly, also in the > gearshift, some in the clutch pedal. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 11:18:23 -0500 From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)" Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Tetraethyl Lead? I'm sure I must have misunderstood your first post? I believe I'm right in saying that tetraethyl lead was primarily added to improve octane or resist spark knock and it still is the most effective way to do it I know of. This is fairly obvious since they have not found a way to improve on the current "Premium" without it. They are bringing compression ratios back up now due to combustion chamber technology but they still burn the same useless, so called, premium from the mid 70's and do other things to reduce the nitrates and compensate for the increased compression so the bottom line stays right where it was 20 years ago, at the bottom........:-( To this very day aircraft fuel uses lead to get the 110-125 octane they need with upwards of 12:1 compresssion engines AFAIK? It is allowed because small aircraft which use this fuel only account for a very small percentage of the problem. - -- Michigan, Pot Hole Jumping, 78 Bronco Loving, Gary http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.thewowfactor.com/bigbroncos/detail.cfm?detailid=167 - -- > Trust me. I was in engineering school in 72 to 74 when all of this was > changing. I did 3 research papers on it. Octane actually dropped, but > appeared to increase because they also required every one to use the == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 11:21:52 -0500 From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)" Subject: FTE 61-79 - RE: FTE PF Group - Pigeon Forge Dates Ed and any others who are interested, here's the post I sent a while back on the PF deal: - -- Michigan, Pot Hole Jumping, 78 Bronco Loving, Gary http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.thewowfactor.com/bigbroncos/detail.cfm?detailid=167 - -- > May 18-21 at the Grand Hotel and Convention Center > > Phone: 704-872-7327 for more info on this :-) > > Goto: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.pigeon-forge.tn.us/index.html for info on > all PF activities > and phone numbers :-) == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 11:22:01 EST From: Bad4dFilly aol.com Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - A LIL MO' INFO In a message dated 11/24/1999 3:52:38 AM !!!First Boot!!!, IanBoss69 aol.com writes: > OOOOOOOOHHHH!!!! Now I dig that! *Evil grin* But my B/F doesn't! HeHe! *~*~Lisa and Envy~*~* *~*~Silly boys...trucks are for GIRLS!~*~* == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 12:08:56 -0500 From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)" Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - The SWMBO rule...... Lisa, it's not a written rule which can be enforced legally but all men know that it can be enforced........and is.......by default......so who teaches little boys they have to get married and come under the jurisdiction of the "SWMBO" rule anyway?.....:-) Bet it's none other than "SWMBO" :-) Got to keep the faith Sister :-) - -- Michigan, Pot Hole Jumping, 78 Bronco Loving, Gary http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.thewowfactor.com/bigbroncos/detail.cfm?detailid=167 - -- > > wrong,,,, >> > > OOOOOOOOHHHH!!!! Now I dig that! *Evil grin* But my B/F doesn't! HeHe! == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 09:39:59 -0800 From: Bird Sandi M CNFB Subject: FTE 61-79 - 65 F100 & lead additive Roberta wrote: so I haven't but I'm getting the impression from some of the recent comments that perhaps I should begin> Roberta, This was a big concern of mine when they dropped the lead many years ago in California. The one person I trust with my truck (he's a master mechanic on OLD vehicles, shows and races a 55 Chevy but loves my Ford), told me that if I didn't add the lead additive, the unleaded fuel would burn my valves and I would eventually have to replace them with new "harder" ones. I don't question him on anything, so I've just taken that as the gospel, but I've been doing it religiously on both my 65 F100 and my 43 Ford 9N tractor, and so far everything is still original on both and both are still running perfectly. However, just because I do it, doesn't mean I know for sure that it has to be done. Seems to me that there are a lot of people on this list that really do know the answer/mechanics to this one. Anyone care to jump in and explain this one to us? And any possible ideas on the best additive to use. There are quite a few out there and because I use so much of it, between the truck and the tractor, I usually head for the least expensive. Sandi & Hank 65 F100 == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 12:50:18 EST From: SevnD2 aol.com Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Gas Hog 428 In a message dated 11/24/1999 9:20:55 AM Eastern Standard Time, am14 daimlerchrysler.com writes: >Anyone have a cure for the quick gas usage problem of my trucks 428 ? :-) Yes I do!!! Price it to me very cheaply. Azie Ardmore, Al. >> Hahahaha ! :-) You know , there are lots of people who would love to solve this problem for me the same way ! I wonder why so many people want to have a big feed bill for a hog like this . Well I have to go . I need to go feed my hog ! Seriously , I am going to swap it out someday ! I really don't need this big of an engine . I may put a 351C in there ( lots of work ) or a 360 - 390 ( simple bolt in ) . You may get a chance to obtain it someday ! TTYL , Rollie == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 11:53:16 -0600 (CST) From: Rubberducky23 webtv.net (Danny Ling) Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: front diff (oops) sorry guys and gals. I got my directions reversed on my power assist steering cylinder (I guess I should proof read a little better) the cylinder sits on the right and the body of it crosses the diff cover. when I turn the wheels left the cylinder extends and when the wheels are turned to the right it contracts. In my message yesterday I typed it backwards... (my bad) Laters, Danny Ling 77 F250 Highboy 4X4, 69 429 TJ == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 13:19:20 -0500 From: Marvin Meyer Subject: FTE 61-79 - My Bio Too It's a Good idea to learn who's all in the group. I'm 35, married, one son (my 6yr old hero), work at a bearing plant as a maintenance tech for all plant systems, in a ever growing town/city called Stratford, Ont. Started out in an apprenticeship course and never looked back, taking one course after the other. Best to do it now than later, and remain competitive in the work force.(Never now when a better job might crop up!). While in high school I worked on a farm, then in the summer I got a students job Blackstone Radiators. My mom started me off with trucks, saying you can make money moving stuff for people. Little did I know that would become a nuisance. She picked out a 73 F100 240-6, 3 in the tree. My insurance would fall under hers as an occasional driver, provided I got the truck and not a car, and was home at reasonable hours. I was barred once for being away all weekend partying, on a Sunday afternoon, uptown playing pool I came out to discover my truck had been "stolen". After the phone call, I was told to come home. Drove that one until it rusted out and salvaged parts off of it for my next. A customized 74 302. It rusted out and I bought a done up 74 F100 360. Removed the motor and installed a 429CJ. Had fun with that at the drags until one day the rubber coupling let go at about 70 mph down the strip. I changed the drive train over to a streetable tune and drove that one until 6 yrs ago when I got tired of rusty vehicles. The next one I assembled out of 6 others a friend of mine had, who was going to scrap. All free I picked the newer replacement parts off and started a with a 76 Ranger XLT supercab. First the frame then the suspension and so on. Fully loaded but still needs A/c completed and better XLT interior trim door panels. Total bill was $3800 including the brand new 95 truck slit bench seat. I ordered a Cab from Ga. And a box from NM. After 2 months of enjoying my back yard creation I unknowingly side swiped a light standard in a dark lit parking lot after finishing off my midnight shift.(Those who work the almighty know some stay up all day Friday to reschedule for the weekend) I'm semi-retired now thanks inpart to the many hours I've spent in the factory working 7 days and on call 24/7. Now we have a full crew through expansion and I work the weekend shift 5-5 X's 2. My hobbies are Genealogy and tinkering out in my recycled shop (old tobacco kiln) Vehicles include as follows: 76 F150 XLT Ranger 3- 1970 Cyclone spoilers (one parts only) 1- 73 Tbird a fleet of recyclable 84/85 LTD's and Marquise (mid-size) a great work only car and runs forever cheaply!! Run em till they rust! Marvin Meyer Stratford, Ont. Canada meyer strat.net == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 12:00:11 -0500 From: Marvin Meyer Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Starters At work we use the Ford starter to drive the hydraulic pumps on our small walk-behind lift trucks, 7/24& near 350/yr they last years lifting over capacity boxes of bearings meyer strat.net BTW, the ford, positive engagement starter has a very good reputation and is probably the most reliable starter ever invented. It was very simple and fairly strong. It is very common for them to last well over 100k miles and much more, depending on driving of course. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 13:30:04 EST From: TBeeee aol.com Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re:Thanksgiving Wishes` I hope all have a safe and happy Thanksgiving. FTE content--I plan on spending some time this holiday week-end working on my Ford! Stock Man 1967 Galaxie 500 Convertible (HELP!---I need 15 x5 factory rims) 1967 F-250 FE 390 4wd 1966 F-250 I6 240 2wd LWB Flare Side http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.hometown.aol.com/tbeeee == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 13:38:21 -0500 From: "Redden" Subject: FTE 61-79 - Dana 24+ bio Howdy again, Thanks for the advise, both on and off the list! I picked up a Dana 24 transfer case to put in my '72 F250. The one I got looked the same 'till you got it right up under the frame (it is too narrow by a couple inches to mount to the frame). I guess this means that I have to find one out of a '67-'72? Or should I go by the serial number or numbers on the casting? Thanks again, Mike ps: short bio: 43 year old Ford and bike enthusiast. Born in Montana, but moved to Iowa and Missouri, now living in SE Pennsylvania. Married to a TOLERANT female for14 years. We've not been successful in having kids but enjoy our nieces and nephews (and their kids). Have restored, tuned and repaired pianos and harpsichords in Kansas City, Mo and then in the Philadelphia region for 20+ years. Needless to say music is a big part of my life. I like all kinds; bluegrass, rock, counry, jazz, "classical", you name it. (harpsichord: what Lurch in the Addams Family plays!) Been trying, with a little help from my friends, to do as much work as I can on my cars, trucks and bikes. Everyone has been a BIG help. This list is great. I was off of it for awhile, but now I have another old F250 (my '84 is for sale). This one's a 4x4 from Arizona and has a TBI 390 motor. My dad worked for Ford (tractor division) for years and we always drove Fords. If he were around today he'd enjoy this list too! == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 10:44:32 -0800 From: Dennis Pearson Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Gas Hog 428 >Seriously , I am going to swap it out someday ! I really don't need this big >of an engine . I may put a 351C in there ( lots of work ) or a 360 - 390 ( >simple bolt in ) . You may get a chance to obtain it someday ! Well Rollie, I understand completely where you are coming from...but I hope you are wearing flame retardant clothing... Dennis Pearson in Kennewick, WA 1962 Unibody, short box, big window--351C 1966 F250 Custom Cab, 352, 4-speed 1962 short stepside (big empty space under the hood) I shortened this to only FT's http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://home.att.net/~dlpearson/levi.htm == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Nov 1999 14:08:14 -0500 From: Tony Marino Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Dana 24+ bio >I picked up a Dana 24 transfer case to put in my '72 F250. >The one I got looked the same 'till you got it right up under >the frame (it is too narrow by a couple inches to mount to the frame). > >I guess this means that I have to find one out of a '67-'72? >Or should I go by the serial number or numbers on the casting? Hey Mike-- I guess I'm sort of confused--- Just recently I took a '68 F-250 dana-24 and tried to put it into my '76 F-250 that had a 205--- all of the mounts lined up for me, it was just the shifter lever that hit a frame rail that stopped me from doing it... I would find it hard to believe they cast 2 different "sized" '24's. I don't know if you tried just using the "plates" that the transfer case mounts to, and swapping those (I used the 205's plates to hold up the 24) and it worked out fine-- Maybe the 24's mounting plates are different and you could just swap those two. At any rate-- I have a 24 laying here (needs seals, but is tight) if you were interested in trading to get what ya' need. 8-) Thanks Tony Marino Akron, Ohio tony greenman-systems.com == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 13:26:40 -0600 From: "William S. Hart" Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - TBI 390 > I was off of it for awhile, but now I have another old F250 (my '84 is for > sale). > This one's a 4x4 from Arizona and has a TBI 390 motor. > Must .... get .... info .... :) How do you like the TBI ? Whose is it ? (holley?) how hard is it to tune/adjust, how often do you need to do that ? More info more info more info more info ... In case you can't tell I'm definitely interested in fuel injection on these old FE's :) Just my $.02 wish 96 Mustang GT 5spd 4.6L 73ish 1/2ton 4x4 6.4L http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 14:31:27 -0500 From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)" Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - 65 F100 & lead additive Several things enter into the problem, heat and rpm, that have a bearing on the speed at which this progresses in a given engine and some engines are softer than others and have more trouble with it. I've seen some run many miles with no precautions in normal every day, conservative driving conditions. I have a 460 with 70 vintage parts in it which may or may not have had hardened seats but it has run well neigh 100k now with no problems and had over 100k on it when it was rebuilt so those heads have over 200k on them, some of which was put on with unleaded regular and no additives. I did run the mid grade while it was available so don't know exactly how many miles were unleaded but it has been a considerable amount. Still runs good but haven't had the heads off to look at the valves. Might get a shock when I do, don't know :-) With vintage iron I think the additive idea might be warranted but if it is your daily driver it might be a good idea to take a look at the seats at the earliest justifiable opportunity and if necessary just go ahead and have the better seats put in so you can go on with your life in a care free manner......:-) When I was a kid I would've done it just for kicks, now I have to have a darned good reason to do any work on the darn thing. Just last night my throttle lingage fell out of the carb throttle arm when the nut fell off due to lack of maintenance (why else would it come loose :-)) Had to stop right in the middle of the street to fix it. One thing I finally learned about old trucks......I always have a tool box with almost every size wrench along with other stuff like duct (Duck?) tape, mechanic's wire, pliers and other essential stuff so I just reached back there and grabbed the right tools and fixed it in about 2 minutes :-) Still irritated me though :-) - -- Michigan, Pot Hole Jumping, 78 Bronco Loving, Gary http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.thewowfactor.com/bigbroncos/detail.cfm?detailid=167 - -- > be done. Seems to me that there are a lot of people on this list that > really do know the answer/mechanics to this one. Anyone care > to jump in and > explain this one to us? And any possible ideas on the best > additive to use. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 14:54:03 -0500 From: Marvin Meyer Subject: FTE 61-79 - Happy Thanksgiving Our Thanksgiving Day is over and yours has begun Have a safe drive and and happy one Christmas sale and lines start tomorrow!! Marvin Meyer Stratford, Ont. Canada meyer strat.net == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 12:11:48 -0700 From: "Kiernan, Denny" Subject: FTE 61-79 - FTE 61-79- Apprenticeship Here's a question mostly for the younger members of this list: Being born too late to be around when these 60's and 70's came out, how did you learn the mechanics? Of course if your dad or somebody was into them and you picked it up from him, it's easy to see. But are there any who learned it a different way? How did you do it? I've always thought that auto mechanics should be a required subject in high school. I've gone through life knowing very little about the subject and it has been a huge disadvantage all my life.. The same goes for a couple of other subjects like basic money management, home construction and financing, nutrition, etc. I wish I'd been taught these things instead of the stuff that has turned out to be completely useless, like philosophy, Latin, biology. Denny '72 F-100 360 2WD Manual everything, 140K == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 15:14:47 -0500 From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)" Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - 390/460 flywheels In 79 or so the 460 was changed to external balance according to some sources I have. Not sure exactly when in 78/79 but somewhere about then it was changed for some odd reason according to these sources. I have a 78 lincoln 460 I will be taking apart one day and I'll see if that one is one of the "bad" ones :-) - -- Michigan, Pot Hole Jumping, 78 Bronco Loving, Gary http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.thewowfactor.com/bigbroncos/detail.cfm?detailid=167 - -- > except the 410/428 and Cammer 427 use the Zero balance as > does the 460. Any year > 460 should bolt up though. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 16:18:06 EST From: Bad4dFilly aol.com Subject: FTE 61-79 - FUNNY but very lil FTE content =( Hi guys! PUH-LEASE don't get mad at me yet! I just read this and found it hilarious and I thought y'all may like it. I promise I won't make this a habit, just found it cute. *~*~Lisa and Envy~*~* *~*~Silly boys...trucks are for GIRLS~*~* SANTA'S NEW CONTRACT Subject: Christmas 1999 A new contract for Santa has finally been negotiated....Please read the following carefully...... I regret to inform you that, effective immediately, I will no longer be able to serve Southern United States on Christmas Eve. Due to the overwhelming current population of the earth, my contract was renegotiated by North American Fairies and Elves Local 209. I now serve only certain areas of Ohio, Indiana, Illinois, Wisconsin and Michigan. art of the new and better contract I also get longer breaks for milk and cookies so keep that in mind. However, I'm certain that your children will be in good hands with your local replacement who happens to be my third cousin, Bubba Claus. His side of the family is from the South Pole. He shares my goal of delivering toys to all the good boys and girls; however, there are a few differences between us. Differences such as: 1. There is no danger of a Grinch stealing your presents from Bubba Claus. as a gun rack on his sleigh and a bumper sticker that reads: "These toys insured by Smith and Wesson." 2. Instead of milk and cookies, Bubba Claus prefers that children leave an RC cola and pork rinds [or a moon pie] on the fireplace. And Bubba doesn't smoke a pipe. He dips a little snuff though, so please have an empty spit can handy. 3. Bubba Claus' sleigh is pulled by floppy-eared, flyin' coon dogs instead of reindeer. I made the mistake of loaning him a couple of my reindeer one time, and Blitzen's head now overlooks Bubba's fireplace. 4. You won't hear "On Comet, on Cupid, on Donner and Blitzen..." when Bubba Claus arrives. Instead, you'll hear, "On Earnhardt, on Wallace, on Martin and Labonte. On Rudd, on Jarrett, on Elliott and Petty." 5. "Ho, ho, ho!" has been replaced by "Yee Haw!" And you also are likely to hear Bubba's elves respond, "I her'd dat!" 6. As required by Southern highway laws, Bubba Claus' sleigh does have a Yosemite Sam safety triangle on the back with the words "Back off" The last I heard it also had other decorations on the sleigh back as well. One is a Ford logo with lights that race through the letters and the other is a caricature of me (Santa Claus) going wee wee on the Tooth Fairy. 7. The usual Christmas movie classics such as "Miracle on 34th Street" and "It's a Wonderful Life" will not be shown in your negotiated viewing area. ead, you'll see "Boss Hogg Saves Christmas" and "Smokey and the Bandit IV" featuring Burt Reynolds as Bubba Claus and dozens of state patrol cars crashing into each other. 8. Bubba Claus doesn't wear a belt. If I were you, I'd make sure you, the wife, and the kids turn the other way when he bends over to put presents under the tree. 9. And finally, lovely Christmas songs have been sung about me like Rudolph The Red-nosed Reindeer" and Bing Crosby's "Santa Claus Is Coming to Town." This year songs about Bubba Claus will be played on all the AM radio stations in the South. Those song title will be Mark Chesnutt's "Bubba Claus Shot the Jukebox" and "Grandma Got Run'd Over by a Reindeer." Sincerely Yours, Santa Clause (member of North American Fairies and Elves Local 209) == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 15:22:02 -0600 From: "William S. Hart" Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - FTE 61-79- Apprenticeship > Being born too late to be around when these 60's and 70's came out, how > did you learn the mechanics? Of course if your dad or somebody was into > them and you picked it up from him, it's easy to see. But are there any > who learned it a different way? How did you do it? Well I learned a bit from my dad (Thanks Dad!), and am still learning from him, but for the Fuel Injection stuff that he's scared to death of, I learned a lot of that through articles on the net and magazines ... that with my engineering training makes it seem oh so simple ... yeah whatever, anyway I've actually learned quite a bit through sheer experience and reading ... But having a father who's really into the old car scene has made it amazingly easy to gather experience, if only in how to get more leverage on the bolt :) Just my $.02 wish 96 Mustang GT 5spd 4.6L 73ish 1/2ton 4x4 6.4L http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 16:27:35 -0500 From: Marvin Meyer Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - FTE 61-79- Apprenticeship Denny; In high school we had several choices when it came to subject picking for the next year. It was structured in Canada & specifically in Ontario in the 70's so that if you chose shops, there were mandatory classes you took. I for one like playing with lawn mowers in Grade 5 so in 9 I took shops. Here's the mandatory list if you took Automechanics * Auto * Welding * Machining * Blueprint Reading You would switch every semester After gr. 10 then it was narrowed down * Auto * Welding * Machine Shop At this point when you reach grade 12 at the beginning of the year you where to see a guidance councilor. They would and you would determine if you liked it. If so then you were Enrolled into the Map 40 program. This program would allow you to work on other peoples cars and do diagnostics and trouble shooting. At the end of your high school years you would go on to College with the credits from your high school days and would finish the course in 18 months I never did this but I was enrolled into the Map 40. Thanks to the experience of my brother he pointed out quite a few disadvantages. My high school principal suggested that I phone up and apply for a machinist Apprenticeship at the bearing plant ( back then they were widely known to "take on" 20 or more students) By that fall I was in...............That was 18yrs ago & still there ( apart of the wood work now) Marvin meyer strat.net Being born too late to be around when these 60's and 70's came out, how did you learn the mechanics? == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 15:39:08 -0600 From: "Freewheel" Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - A LIL MO' INFO If he stays around long enough, He'll learn :) Larry > > > > > OOOOOOOOHHHH!!!! Now I dig that! *Evil grin* But my B/F doesn't! HeHe! > > *~*~Lisa and Envy~*~* > *~*~Silly boys...trucks are for GIRLS!~*~* > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 17:35:59 -0500 From: "Serian" Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: Bronco Rebuild > On one side of the front axle the shock > mounts to a bracket in the radius arm, just like it shows in The Book, but > the other side has no bracket on the radius arm - instead the shock was > mounted on a non-OEM bracket that is a cast part of the cap (front, or > opposite site of axle from radius arm - holds c-bushings in place), and not > present on the other side. The top brackets for the shocks are, on one > side, behind the wheel, and in FRONT of the wheel on the other side. I am > guessing this would drive somebody who knew better crazy - just makes me > nervous. This seems to be the normal setup from the factory ... my '79 Bronco is like that. There are extra mounting holes in the other radius arm, and the radius arm cap has the extra flange of metal off the front to be able to mount the hardware necessary to convert to a quad shock front suspension. I am considering converting mine that way ... just need to custom make the shock bracket pieces for the radius arm (they are no longer available from Ford), and drill a bolt hole in the other side radius arm cap flange in the right places :-) I would guess Ford did that intentionally in order to more easily facilitate the snowplowing package offered on some models. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 18:54:01 -0500 From: j arnold Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Towing Snirt At 08:43 PM 11/22/99 -0600, you wrote: >Folks: >I am trying to figure out how to get Snirt (SNow-IRT--this IS North Dakota) >my '74 F-100 from ND to Louisiana. She is something of a work in progress, >so I would rather not drive (though it might be peaceful since SWMBO would >be in the van with the 5 kids ;-)). I am toying with the idea of buying a >tow bar and pulling her behind my D # van. Any suggestions? >Thanks! >Marty > >== FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html > Might try a tow dolly. Can rent from u-haul. If we're talking full size van, it should handle it fairly well. stoney == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 16:12:52 -0800 (PST) From: canzus seanet.com Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - '79 Bronco Rebuild - Two Birds At 06:18 PM 23:11:99 -0800, Bill Beyer wrote: >400 is the same block, heads & rods...direct bolt in. The only thing that >changes is the pistons & crank...nothing external and 49 extra cubes is >nothing to sneeze at! Plus, if you keep the 351M valve covers, with the attatched engine family label still readable, the smog nazi's couldn't tell the difference. >"If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, riddle them with bullets" Yeah, what he said.. Steve & the Rockette 68 F100, 390cid, FMX 63 F100, 292cid, 3speed 72 Capri 2000, hers 73 Capri 2600,tube frame going in..... 73 MGB GT, Our Toy 94 SHO, SWMBO's 97 Contour, Mine == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 16:27:41 -0800 From: Dennis Pearson Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - FTE 61-79- Apprenticeship Thanks for your message at 12:11 PM 11/24/99 -0700, Kiernan, Denny. Your message was: >Here's a question mostly for the younger members of this list: > >Being born too late to be around when these 60's and 70's came out, how >did you learn the mechanics? Of course if your dad or somebody was into >them and you picked it up from him, it's easy to see. But are there any >who learned it a different way? How did you do it? > >I've always thought that auto mechanics should be a required subject in >high school. I've gone through life knowing very little about the >subject and it has been a huge disadvantage all my life.. The same goes >for a couple of other subjects like basic money management, home >construction and financing, nutrition, etc. I wish I'd been taught these >things instead of the stuff that has turned out to be completely >useless, like philosophy, Latin, biology. Well, Denny, first of all I disagree vehemently with your list of "useless" subjects. Think of your brain as analogous to your body. Just as your body needs exercise, so does your brain. Different parts of your body need special concentration since they may not get the required development through your everyday activity. The same goes with your brain. Take philosophy, for instance. While you do not in your everyday life directly think about philosophy, a part of your brain benefitted from thinking about philosophy in whatever class or situation you "took" philosophy. You may not have even been able to formulate your question as articulately as you did if you had not had that "stuff" you think of useless. Learning is not on object (stuff); it is a process whether it is writing an essay or repairing a leaky master cylinder. Now to the main part of your question. I think the first word I ever uttered was "car." I had an uncle who was a mechanic and my dad seemed to always do his own automotive work out of economic necessity, at least in my formative years. I managed to badger my parents into letting me get my first vehicle (a '48 Plymouth woodie cut into a pickup) when I was 13 for $25. At 14 I worked and saved $125 for my second vehicle (a '52 Plymouth convertible--do I sense a trend here?). Then I purchased two 1951 Mercuries (at last--in the Ford family). Well, the list goes on and on and includes MANY Ford Trucks (I can't even count how many.). From the very beginning, I fixed everything that went wrong with any vehicle I had. I made plenty of mistakes along the way and sometimes went without a car, a situation which motivated even more to fix whatever needed to be fixed...and if I didn't know how to do something, I found out or thought it out logically and tried. Of course if I didn't experience some degree of pleasure doing all this, I wouldn't have continued fixing anything I could...and I still do at 53. Of course, newer vehicles have gone way beyond my expertise... Sorry for the long post, but now I guess I don't need a biography... Dennis Pearson in Kennewick, WA 1962 Unibody, short box, big window--351C 1966 F250 Custom Cab, 352, 4-speed 1962 short stepside (big empty space under the hood) I shortened this to only FT's http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://home.att.net/~dlpearson/levi.htm == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 17:46:19 -0700.... 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