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61-79-list-digest Wednesday, November 24 1999 Volume 03 : Number 434



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In this issue:

FTE 61-79 - A LiL Mo Info
FTE 61-79 - OK some more VIN numbers
RE: FTE 61-79 - Starters
RE: FTE 61-79 - Rancheros, Falcon?
Re: FTE 61-79 - Found Dana 60 5 lug!!
Re: FTE 61-79 - 5.0 or 5.2
FTE 61-79 - 390/460 flywheels
FTE 61-79 - Contour replacement? was: 390-460 Flywheels
RE: FTE 61-79 - '79 Bronco Rebuild - Two Birds
FTE 61-79 - Gas Hog 428
FTE 61-79 - A LIL MO' INFO
Re: FTE 61-79 - Tailgates
RE: FTE 61-79 - '79 Bronco Rebuild - Two Birds
Re: FTE 61-79 - '79 Bronco Rebuild - Two Birds
RE: FTE 61-79 - Clutch not quite right
RE: FTE 61-79 - Tetraethyl Lead?
FTE 61-79 - RE: FTE PF Group - Pigeon Forge Dates
Re: FTE 61-79 - A LIL MO' INFO
RE: FTE 61-79 - The SWMBO rule......
FTE 61-79 - 65 F100 & lead additive
Re: FTE 61-79 - Gas Hog 428
FTE 61-79 - Re: front diff (oops)
FTE 61-79 - My Bio Too
RE: FTE 61-79 - Starters
FTE 61-79 - Re:Thanksgiving Wishes`
FTE 61-79 - Dana 24+ bio
Re: FTE 61-79 - Gas Hog 428
Re: FTE 61-79 - Dana 24+ bio
RE: FTE 61-79 - TBI 390
RE: FTE 61-79 - 65 F100 & lead additive
FTE 61-79 - Happy Thanksgiving
FTE 61-79 - FTE 61-79- Apprenticeship
RE: FTE 61-79 - 390/460 flywheels
FTE 61-79 - FUNNY but very lil FTE content =(
RE: FTE 61-79 - FTE 61-79- Apprenticeship
RE: FTE 61-79 - FTE 61-79- Apprenticeship
Re: FTE 61-79 - A LIL MO' INFO
FTE 61-79 - Re: Bronco Rebuild
Re: FTE 61-79 - Towing Snirt
Re: FTE 61-79 - '79 Bronco Rebuild - Two Birds
Re: FTE 61-79 - FTE 61-79- Apprenticeship
Re: FTE 61-79 - FTE 61-79- Apprenticeship
FTE 61-79 - 428CJ Intake

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Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 02:33:17 -0800
From: John Lord
Subject: FTE 61-79 - A LiL Mo Info

Time to add my two bit's

Im a 31 year old Male with my own computer business. Married, divorced
and married agian with 3 kids.
I have lived in Victoria. B.C. Canada all my life.

I own a 74 F-250 4x4 Crew Cab (my fun truck) With a Hop'd up 351 W on
propane. (self installed) Std trans, Dana 60 rear and Dana 44 front.
I have been around the almighty Ford truck all my life. My father only
owns fords and taught me right. He is a retired machinist, with his own
shop giving me access to the ability to rebuild my own engines or repair
any problem that comes along. i do sideline work with the valve grinding
equipment he bought to keep me out of trouble in my teens. I have been
skulking in this list for about a year now, offering a few sugestions
from time to time wishing i could offer you all the services of the shop
to fix those really odd problems that come up.

Iv'e been saving the best for last...... My baby is a 1967 Mercrury -3/4
ton currently in need of a lot of TLC under the hood.
(blew the trans in a freak snowstorm 3 years ago making it into a ground
up restoration)

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Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 19:57:05 +0800
From: "David and Cherie"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - OK some more VIN numbers

>I have just spent all day dismantling my F 350 for rebuilding.
>I am curious to the VIN numbers (although here in Australia we didn't get
>VIN numbers until late 80's).
>
>I think I have cracked the Australian Compliance tag but I have found on
the
>Chassis 2 extra sets of numbers.
>They are, one set on the top of the rear cab mount on what to you yanks
>would be the drivers side (left),
>It is
> 37TA
> 5A111-A
>
>The other number is on the right side on top of the chassis rail just
behind
>the radiator support panel where it bolts to the chassis,
>It is,
> FD3987S
>
>The last letter could be a 5 but I think its an S.
>So what can you all tell me about this, I would assume since they were all
>built in America you all might know more than me.
>
>A couple of clue's, Its a 1968, F350, Dana 70 rear, 240 six as standard.
>Your help would be most apprecative.
>
>Regards David,
>West Australia.


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Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 07:14:39 -0500
From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Starters

I work in the plant where the starters are made and have been here since
they quit making the long shaft, reverse engagement "Inertia" type used on
older engines, I believe including the flat heads and, of course, large
truck engines. They continued to use these on truck engines after the
positive engagement type most of us are familiar with came out.

Does anyone know what engines this long shaft starter was used on? I
believe the 65 had the standard 4.5" 3 pole positive engagement like we had
right up to the late 80's when the gear drive starter came out but don't
know exactly when thay first came out. Initially the armature was soldered
but later it was electronically welded. The solder could be melted out
under hard use but the welds either were good or not right from the start so
if you got a good one it was probably good forever. This process started
back in the 70's, don't remember exactly. I used to run the solder pot too
and then the prototype welders and the epoxy varnisher etc.. :-)

The long shaft is very long and had to be straightened by hand on a press (I
did that job on occasion) and used a long bendix drive with a spring on it.
The shaft had no splines and the drive was pinned to it and contained all
the moving parts.

BTW, the ford, positive engagement starter has a very good reputation and is
probably the most reliable starter ever invented. It was very simple and
fairly strong. It is very common for them to last well over 100k miles and
much more, depending on driving of course. Around town I wouldn't expect it
to get as many miles as if used for long distance commuting etc..

I have noticed though that the 460 does put it to the test. This is the
only engine I've ever had that I had to replace this type of starter on that
I can recall and I haven't had a ford yet that got less than 120k before I
sold it, scrapped it or modified it :-)

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> here's a good one. How common is it for a starter to last
> almost 35 years
> and 360,000 miles? I've still got the original starter on my
> 65 F100! I
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Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 05:16:01 -0800
From: "Hogan, Tom"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Rancheros, Falcon?

The first car (actually truck) magazine I ever bought featured an AMC
gremlin that received this treatment.

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From: GMontgo930 aol.com [mailto:GMontgo930 aol.com]
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Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Rancheros, Falcon?


In a message dated 11/22/1999 12:34:17 PM Eastern Standard Time,
gpeters3 visteon.com writes:

> Looks like a 58 something or other....? Wonder what a 78 lincoln would
look
> like made into a Ranchero....:-) Be a good place to practice my metal
> working skills :-)
>
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> Michigan, Pot Hole Jumping,
> 78 Bronco Loving, Gary
> http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.thewowfactor.com/bigbroncos/detail.cfm?detailid=167
> --

Ive got an old article where a guy did this with a 74 Pinto wagon. Made for
a
real neat looking custom truck for the occasional bail of hay!

George
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Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 09:07:40 -0500
From: "Joe "
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Found Dana 60 5 lug!!

I second that..I've been to Harry's..Its amazing...And the prices are
great!
Joe
Langhorne,PA

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> From: FORDTRKNUT aol.com
> To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: FTE 61-79 - Found Dana 60 5 lug!!
> Date: Sunday, November 21, 1999 10:03 PM
>
> Hey guys & gals!!! I found a Dana 60 rear from a 1970-1972 F-100 4x4.
It
> not a full floter rear, its a semi floater as they call it. I did not
buy
> it, but thought someone on the list could use it. I went to "Harrys
> U-Pull-It" in West Hazelton, PA. I do not have the phone number there,
but
> they are open 7 days a week. Usually they open at 8:00am and close at
> 4:00pm. Juts call 411 for info on the phone number. I picked up a Dana
44
> front axel out of a 1979 F-250 for $40.00 (plus $12.00 for core charges
on
> the rotors). They have great prices, and a real neat & organized yard.
If
> you need any information...just ask!!! Wayne Grabley
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Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 13:49:03 +0000 (GMT)
From: David Henderson
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 5.0 or 5.2

> here's a good one. How common is it for a starter to last almost 35=20
years
> and 360,000 miles? I've still got the original starter on my 65 F100!=
=20
I
> keep wondering when it's going to give out, although I haven't had any=

> problems with it. In all those years/miles, I've only replaced the=20
other
> 'major' components once (water pump, alternator, voltage regulator,=20
starter
> solenoid).

On Brownie, when I was removing the original engine after I completed=20
my rebuild, I also removed the original 20 year old starter and=20
alternator. When I bought him, everything on him was from the factory=20
(and looked like it ;^) ).

Dave H

PS Despite the message in my signature, I am proud of the way the=20
University of Texas alumni and students have supported all of the=20
Aggie students after the tragedy at A&M. Never been more proud to say=20
that I'm a Texan than now!

- --=20
_
_| ~~. David Henderson
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or that small slum area beside the capitol)

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Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 08:53:19 -0500
From: am14 daimlerchrysler.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 390/460 flywheels

Bill B. writes: >> FTE content: Does anyone know what year of 460 manual trans
flywheels will work on a 390?

The bolt patterns on the rear of the cranks are the same. Why are you getting a
460 flywheel for a 390??? The 390 standard flywheel is available still(or at
least it was 2 years ago). There are probably more 360's in the salvage yards
around here than there are 460's and they are a direct bolt in also. All FE's
except the 410/428 and Cammer 427 use the Zero balance as does the 460. Any year
460 should bolt up though.

Azie
Ardmore, Al.


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Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 08:07:39 -0600
From: John Strauss
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Contour replacement? was: 390-460 Flywheels

>Yeah, look at the Contour. The best all around
>performing affordable car I've ever had and they go
>out of production in 2000. I had a '95 and my present
>'98 (which I just got back from the body shop) and
>they both out shine (or shone) anything of the type
>I've driven. You set the criuse on 75 and it deals
>with it. It has that just right mix of give and
>firmness to the suspension, and with the passive rear
>steering you get spoiled to the handling on two lane
>roads. The little 2.0 engine is a strong performer, I
>liked the 5-speed better but the auto is fine.
>Nothing anyone else makes of that size even comes
>close in my book. But there they go. Everyone wants
>a cheapa** Cavalier clone. Junk. The Feces (Focus?)
>will be a poor replacement for it.
>
I thought the Focus was the replacement for the Escort, not the Contour.
_
_| ~~. John Strauss
\, *_} jstrauss inetport.com
\( Texas Fight!

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Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 08:11:10 -0600
From: "William S. Hart"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - '79 Bronco Rebuild - Two Birds

> your not missing brackets for the shocks..I've seen 2 Bronco's
> 78-79 that had
> staggered shocks...One on the front arm and the other in the
> middle...Strange
> things i've seen from Ford
>

Ford's not the only one to stagger the rear shocks, actually the big 3 have
all done it at one time or another ... heck our AMC Eagle had staggered rear
shocks, it helps to control wheel hop and axle wrap ... the first Fords to
see it if I remember right were the 428 CJ Mustang's in 68.5 ... 69 and 70
Boss 302's had it too ...

I'd definitely keep it staggered if it were me ... if you want to ditch it
though and can unbolt all the parts, let me know!!!!

Just my $.02
wish

96 Mustang GT 5spd 4.6L
73ish 1/2ton 4x4 6.4L
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Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 09:18:06 -0500
From: am14 daimlerchrysler.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Gas Hog 428

Rollie writes: >>Anyone have a cure for the quick gas usage problem of my
trucks 428 ? :-)

Yes I do!!! Price it to me very cheaply.

Azie
Ardmore, Al.


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Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 08:28:09 -0600
From: "Alex Beshirs"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - A LIL MO' INFO

Howdy,
I reckon its the new fad, so I figured I would jump in :)
My name is Alex Beshirs and I live in Garland Texas. Thats just a little
piece north of Dallas. I am 28 and just got married last month to a great
woman I met on IRC. She moved down here from Michigan last January with her
3 young'uns and we have been happy since. I work for a company that does
outsourcing for Microsoft. Basically, I am a lead over a team who supports
Windows NT IP/RAS and Proxy. I own a '68 F-100. This is the first Ford I
have owned. I got it from a friend who was moving out of state and needed
to get rid of it. I am trying to keep it as original as I can. One thing
though, her father moved the gear shifter from the column to the floor. I
havent decided if I want to move it back up or leave it where it is. Any
suggestions? Anyways, the body is straight, and I figure with a new paint
job, and a few other parts, like an original type steering wheel, it will be
back up to par. I reckon thats about all I can say about me. I really
enjoy these emails, and I read quite a few of them too. :)


ALEX BESHIRS,
WINDOWS NT BOS TECHNICAL SUPPORT
IP/RAS TECH LEAD
972-840-7007 x 7642
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Men stumble over the truth from time to time, but most pick themselves up
and hurry off as if nothing happened -- Winston Churchill

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Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 06:55:05 -0800
From: Dennis Pearson
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Tailgates

Thanks for your message at 07:50 PM 11/23/99 -0800, Hogan, Tom. Your
message was:
>Found this site. You guys looking for unibody tailgates might conntact them
>and see if they have anything
>
>http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.pros-pick.com/index2.html
>
Thanks, Tom. There is one line on their page that slows me down a bit:
"All Pro's Pick tailgates are $550.00 ."
When I get a little(?) extra cash I might contact them. I'm starting to
think it's not going to be cheap, though...


Dennis Pearson in Kennewick, WA

1962 Unibody, short box, big window--351C
1966 F250 Custom Cab, 352, 4-speed
1962 short stepside (big empty space under the hood)
I shortened this to only FT's

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Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 10:20:59 -0500
From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - '79 Bronco Rebuild - Two Birds

I have not done it myself but there are plenty of options for a built 400
which make it a worth while option for one who is not contemplating "total"
power. The 400 will have more bottom end torque for any given configuration
than the 351 due to it's stroke so is a very good choice for rock crawling.
There are some really nice roller cams out there for this engine with rpm
ranges which start very low, unlike the 460 which apparently is a race only
application when you go to roller cams. Almost make a guy want to throw the
stupid 460 away and get a 400 :-( Offenhauser also make a manifold for this
engine to fit the Rochester which is the best rock crawling carb ever made
I've been told.

The shock set up you mention is stock. Both brackets you mention are OEM.
The shocks are also different lengths so make sure you put the shorter one
on the side with mount behind the axle so they don't bottom out or interfere
with suspension droop. The factory quad shock setup uses two radius arm
front bracket mounts and two "U" shaped brackets behind the axle or
diametrical opposit of the original pair to complete the ballance. If you
notice the holes for the second bracket are already in the other radius arm
since the arms are identical and intershangeable in a quad shock setup. All
you need to make it a quad shock are the upper mount brackets and another
pair of the original lower brackets.

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> truth, I have been
> tempted to put in a 400 as it would be such an easy upgrade.
> My question -
> IS it an upgrade? Neither M-block seems to have a huge
> following, with all

> am missing mounting brackets... On one side of the front
> axle the shock
> mounts to a bracket in the radius arm, just like it shows in
> The Book, but
> the other side has no bracket on the radius arm - instead the
> shock was
> mounted on a non-OEM bracket that is a cast part of the cap (front, or
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Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 10:40:06 -0500
From: James Oxley
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - '79 Bronco Rebuild - Two Birds

Jeff Norville wrote:
>
> Howdy helpful folks:
>
> My questions in this post are about 1) that aged 351M I mentioned last week,
> and 2) a suspension inconsistency.
>
> First - have found a rebuilt 351 M-block to swap into my 166,000+ mileage
> Bronco, keeping it all stock - but now, at the moment of truth, I have been
> tempted to put in a 400 as it would be such an easy upgrade. My question -
> IS it an upgrade?

Yes, even in stock form, there is a big difference. I own 3, 351M,
78/79 broncs and had driven stock 400 Broncs (also had a 79 F250 with
400). The 400 was faster than any of the other three. Interestingly, one
of the 79's I have with fed emissions and 35" tires blows away my 79 Ca.
emissions rig with 31" tires, everything else equal (both completely
stock motors).

> Neither M-block seems to have a huge following, with all
> exceptions subscribing to this list - would this give me more power?
It is easy to put in a 460, but it still costs money for stuff to do it
convert right. this si money you could use for building the 400. If your
rebuilding ground up, then a 460 might be the way to go, since you have
to buy everything anyway. If your like me and have new or near new
everything for a 351M except the internals, then going to 460 is going
to be way more expensive than than building a 400.

Or do
> I care, since I mostly drive long distances to the desert and go really,
> really slow over rocks? Just stick to adding TRW pistons to the 351M? If
> you're an upgrade fan, know any hidden bugaboos to 400 conversion that would
> haunt this shade tree kid? Especially in California?

Nope, no one would ever know and it was a factory option!!

> Second - while putting new front shocks into the beast we discovered that I
> am missing mounting brackets... On one side of the front axle the shock
> mounts to a bracket in the radius arm, just like it shows in The Book, but
> the other side has no bracket on the radius arm - instead the shock was
> mounted on a non-OEM bracket that is a cast part of the cap (front, or
> opposite site of axle from radius arm - holds c-bushings in place), and not
> present on the other side. The top brackets for the shocks are, on one
> side, behind the wheel, and in FRONT of the wheel on the other side. I am
> guessing this would drive somebody who knew better crazy - just makes me
> nervous.

That is factory, all 78/79 broncs came that way.

> Is it some 4by-ers retrofit gone bad? Know where I can get brackets to make
> both sides symmetrical (four shocks was the goal...)? Best to hunt down all
> brackets in pickaparts (after the engine goes in)?

You may need new radius arms also (on passeneger side). Many times you
can not swap radius arm caps to get the other bracket on there and the
radius arm itslef prob does not have the rear bracket on the drivers
side (you could dril the holes to add this bracket if you find the
bracket).

OX
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Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 11:00:54 -0500
From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Clutch not quite right

If it makes noise when you depress the pedal the throwout bearing is hitting
on something or is bad. This should be dead smooth, there should be no feed
back through the pedal from the rotating mass, it should be very smooth and
quiet. If it isn't there is something wrong whether your mechanic thinks so
or not!

You could have either a pilot bushing issue or a transmission input shaft or
internal bearing issue as well. The transmission will feed back quite a bit
of it's vibration but the noise is due to the throwout bearing in one way or
another, I'm reasonably sure.

The clutch should have nothing to do with vibration when depressing the
brake pedal unless the clutch pedal is mounted to the same shaft as the
brake and is binding in some way so the brake is also depressing the clutch.
If this is not the case then you have two separate issues.

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> I should have said that the noise APPEARS when I depress the
> pedal. You
> dont hear it when the clutch is engaged.
>
> Another thing, there is a lot of vibration that wasn't there
> before the
> clutch job. You feel it in the brake pedal mostly, also in the
> gearshift, some in the clutch pedal.
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Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 11:18:23 -0500
From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Tetraethyl Lead?

I'm sure I must have misunderstood your first post? I believe I'm right in
saying that tetraethyl lead was primarily added to improve octane or resist
spark knock and it still is the most effective way to do it I know of. This
is fairly obvious since they have not found a way to improve on the current
"Premium" without it.

They are bringing compression ratios back up now due to combustion chamber
technology but they still burn the same useless, so called, premium from the
mid 70's and do other things to reduce the nitrates and compensate for the
increased compression so the bottom line stays right where it was 20 years
ago, at the bottom........:-(

To this very day aircraft fuel uses lead to get the 110-125 octane they need
with upwards of 12:1 compresssion engines AFAIK? It is allowed because
small aircraft which use this fuel only account for a very small percentage
of the problem.

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> Trust me. I was in engineering school in 72 to 74 when all of this was
> changing. I did 3 research papers on it. Octane actually dropped, but
> appeared to increase because they also required every one to use the
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Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 11:21:52 -0500
From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - RE: FTE PF Group - Pigeon Forge Dates

Ed and any others who are interested, here's the post I sent a while back on
the PF deal:

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78 Bronco Loving, Gary
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> May 18-21 at the Grand Hotel and Convention Center
>
> Phone: 704-872-7327 for more info on this :-)
>
> Goto: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.pigeon-forge.tn.us/index.html for info on
> all PF activities
> and phone numbers :-)

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Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 11:22:01 EST
From: Bad4dFilly aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - A LIL MO' INFO

In a message dated 11/24/1999 3:52:38 AM !!!First Boot!!!, IanBoss69 aol.com
writes:

>

OOOOOOOOHHHH!!!! Now I dig that! *Evil grin* But my B/F doesn't! HeHe!

*~*~Lisa and Envy~*~*
*~*~Silly boys...trucks are for GIRLS!~*~*
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Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 12:08:56 -0500
From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - The SWMBO rule......

Lisa, it's not a written rule which can be enforced legally but all men know
that it can be enforced........and is.......by default......so who teaches
little boys they have to get married and come under the jurisdiction of the
"SWMBO" rule anyway?.....:-) Bet it's none other than "SWMBO" :-) Got to
keep the faith Sister :-)

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>
> wrong,,,, >>
>
> OOOOOOOOHHHH!!!! Now I dig that! *Evil grin* But my B/F doesn't! HeHe!
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Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 09:39:59 -0800
From: Bird Sandi M CNFB
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 65 F100 & lead additive

Roberta wrote:

so I haven't but I'm getting the impression from some of the recent comments
that perhaps I should begin>

Roberta,
This was a big concern of mine when they dropped the lead many years ago in
California. The one person I trust with my truck (he's a master mechanic on
OLD vehicles, shows and races a 55 Chevy but loves my Ford), told me that if
I didn't add the lead additive, the unleaded fuel would burn my valves and I
would eventually have to replace them with new "harder" ones. I don't
question him on anything, so I've just taken that as the gospel, but I've
been doing it religiously on both my 65 F100 and my 43 Ford 9N tractor, and
so far everything is still original on both and both are still running
perfectly.

However, just because I do it, doesn't mean I know for sure that it has to
be done. Seems to me that there are a lot of people on this list that
really do know the answer/mechanics to this one. Anyone care to jump in and
explain this one to us? And any possible ideas on the best additive to use.
There are quite a few out there and because I use so much of it, between the
truck and the tractor, I usually head for the least expensive.

Sandi & Hank
65 F100
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Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 12:50:18 EST
From: SevnD2 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Gas Hog 428

In a message dated 11/24/1999 9:20:55 AM Eastern Standard Time,
am14 daimlerchrysler.com writes:

>Anyone have a cure for the quick gas usage problem of my
trucks 428 ? :-)

Yes I do!!! Price it to me very cheaply.

Azie
Ardmore, Al. >>

Hahahaha ! :-) You know , there are lots of people who would love to solve
this problem for me the same way ! I wonder why so many people want to have a
big feed bill for a hog like this . Well I have to go . I need to go feed my
hog !

Seriously , I am going to swap it out someday ! I really don't need this big
of an engine . I may put a 351C in there ( lots of work ) or a 360 - 390 (
simple bolt in ) . You may get a chance to obtain it someday !
TTYL ,
Rollie
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Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 11:53:16 -0600 (CST)
From: Rubberducky23 webtv.net (Danny Ling)
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: front diff (oops)

sorry guys and gals. I got my directions reversed on my power assist
steering cylinder (I guess I should proof read a little better) the
cylinder sits on the right and the body of it crosses the diff cover.
when I turn the wheels left the cylinder extends and when the wheels are
turned to the right it contracts. In my message yesterday I typed it
backwards... (my bad)

Laters, Danny Ling

77 F250 Highboy 4X4, 69 429 TJ

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Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 13:19:20 -0500
From: Marvin Meyer
Subject: FTE 61-79 - My Bio Too

It's a Good idea to learn who's all in the group.

I'm 35, married, one son (my 6yr old hero), work at a bearing plant as a
maintenance tech for all plant systems, in a ever growing town/city called
Stratford, Ont.

Started out in an apprenticeship course and never looked back, taking one
course after the other. Best to do it now than later, and remain
competitive in the work force.(Never now when a better job might crop up!).

While in high school I worked on a farm, then in the summer I got a
students job Blackstone Radiators. My mom started me off with trucks,
saying you can make money moving stuff for people. Little did I know that
would become a nuisance. She picked out a 73 F100 240-6, 3 in the tree. My
insurance would fall under hers as an occasional driver, provided I got the
truck and not a car, and was home at reasonable hours. I was barred once
for being away all weekend partying, on a Sunday afternoon, uptown playing
pool I came out to discover my truck had been "stolen". After the phone
call, I was told to come home.
Drove that one until it rusted out and salvaged parts off of it for my
next. A customized 74 302. It rusted out and I bought a done up 74 F100
360. Removed the motor and installed a 429CJ. Had fun with that at the
drags until one day the rubber coupling let go at about 70 mph down the
strip. I changed the drive train over to a streetable tune and drove that
one until 6 yrs ago when I got tired of rusty vehicles.
The next one I assembled out of 6 others a friend of mine had, who was
going to scrap. All free I picked the newer replacement parts off and
started a with a 76 Ranger XLT supercab. First the frame then the
suspension and so on. Fully loaded but still needs A/c completed and better
XLT interior trim door panels. Total bill was $3800 including the brand new
95 truck slit bench seat. I ordered a Cab from Ga. And a box from NM.
After 2 months of enjoying my back yard creation I unknowingly side swiped
a light standard in a dark lit parking lot after finishing off my midnight
shift.(Those who work the almighty know some stay up all day Friday to
reschedule for the weekend)

I'm semi-retired now thanks inpart to the many hours I've spent in the
factory working 7 days and on call 24/7. Now we have a full crew through
expansion and I work the weekend shift 5-5 X's 2. My hobbies are Genealogy
and tinkering out in my recycled shop (old tobacco kiln) Vehicles include
as follows:
76 F150 XLT Ranger
3- 1970 Cyclone spoilers (one parts only)
1- 73 Tbird
a fleet of recyclable 84/85 LTD's and Marquise (mid-size) a great work only
car and runs forever cheaply!! Run em till they rust!

Marvin Meyer
Stratford, Ont. Canada
meyer strat.net

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Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 12:00:11 -0500
From: Marvin Meyer
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Starters

At work we use the Ford starter to drive the hydraulic pumps on our small
walk-behind lift trucks, 7/24& near 350/yr they last years lifting over
capacity boxes of bearings

meyer strat.net

BTW, the ford, positive engagement starter has a very good reputation and
is probably the most reliable starter ever invented. It was very simple
and fairly strong. It is very common for them to last well over 100k miles
and much more, depending on driving of course.

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Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 13:30:04 EST
From: TBeeee aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re:Thanksgiving Wishes`

I hope all have a safe and happy Thanksgiving. FTE content--I plan on
spending some time this holiday week-end working on my Ford!

Stock Man
1967 Galaxie 500 Convertible (HELP!---I need 15 x5 factory rims)
1967 F-250 FE 390 4wd
1966 F-250 I6 240 2wd LWB Flare Side
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Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 13:38:21 -0500
From: "Redden"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Dana 24+ bio

Howdy again,

Thanks for the advise, both on and off the list!

I picked up a Dana 24 transfer case to put in my '72 F250.
The one I got looked the same 'till you got it right up under
the frame (it is too narrow by a couple inches to mount to the frame).

I guess this means that I have to find one out of a '67-'72?
Or should I go by the serial number or numbers on the casting?

Thanks again,

Mike

ps: short bio:

43 year old Ford and bike enthusiast. Born in Montana, but moved to Iowa
and Missouri,
now living in SE Pennsylvania. Married to a TOLERANT female for14 years.
We've not been successful in having kids but enjoy our nieces and nephews
(and their kids).
Have restored, tuned and repaired pianos and harpsichords in Kansas City, Mo
and then
in the Philadelphia region for 20+ years. Needless to say music is a big
part of my life.
I like all kinds; bluegrass, rock, counry, jazz, "classical", you name it.
(harpsichord: what Lurch in the Addams Family plays!)

Been trying, with a little help from my friends, to do as much work as I can
on my
cars, trucks and bikes. Everyone has been a BIG help. This list is great.
I was off of it for awhile, but now I have another old F250 (my '84 is for
sale).
This one's a 4x4 from Arizona and has a TBI 390 motor.

My dad worked for Ford (tractor division) for years and we always drove
Fords.
If he were around today he'd enjoy this list too!




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Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 10:44:32 -0800
From: Dennis Pearson
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Gas Hog 428

>Seriously , I am going to swap it out someday ! I really don't need this
big
>of an engine . I may put a 351C in there ( lots of work ) or a 360 - 390 (
>simple bolt in ) . You may get a chance to obtain it someday !

Well Rollie, I understand completely where you are coming from...but I hope
you are wearing flame retardant clothing...


Dennis Pearson in Kennewick, WA

1962 Unibody, short box, big window--351C
1966 F250 Custom Cab, 352, 4-speed
1962 short stepside (big empty space under the hood)
I shortened this to only FT's

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Date: Tue, 09 Nov 1999 14:08:14 -0500
From: Tony Marino
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Dana 24+ bio

>I picked up a Dana 24 transfer case to put in my '72 F250.
>The one I got looked the same 'till you got it right up under
>the frame (it is too narrow by a couple inches to mount to the frame).
>
>I guess this means that I have to find one out of a '67-'72?
>Or should I go by the serial number or numbers on the casting?


Hey Mike-- I guess I'm sort of confused--- Just recently I took a '68
F-250 dana-24 and tried to put it into my '76 F-250 that had a 205--- all
of the mounts lined up for me, it was just the shifter lever that hit a
frame rail that stopped me from doing it... I would find it hard to
believe they cast 2 different "sized" '24's. I don't know if you tried
just using the "plates" that the transfer case mounts to, and swapping
those (I used the 205's plates to hold up the 24) and it worked out fine--
Maybe the 24's mounting plates are different and you could just swap those
two.

At any rate-- I have a 24 laying here (needs seals, but is tight) if you
were interested in trading to get what ya' need. 8-)

Thanks

Tony Marino
Akron, Ohio
tony greenman-systems.com
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Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 13:26:40 -0600
From: "William S. Hart"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - TBI 390

> I was off of it for awhile, but now I have another old F250 (my '84 is for
> sale).
> This one's a 4x4 from Arizona and has a TBI 390 motor.
>


Must .... get .... info .... :) How do you like the TBI ? Whose is it ?
(holley?) how hard is it to tune/adjust, how often do you need to do that ?

More info more info more info more info ...

In case you can't tell I'm definitely interested in fuel injection on these
old FE's :)

Just my $.02
wish

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73ish 1/2ton 4x4 6.4L
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Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 14:31:27 -0500
From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - 65 F100 & lead additive

Several things enter into the problem, heat and rpm, that have a bearing on
the speed at which this progresses in a given engine and some engines are
softer than others and have more trouble with it. I've seen some run many
miles with no precautions in normal every day, conservative driving
conditions. I have a 460 with 70 vintage parts in it which may or may not
have had hardened seats but it has run well neigh 100k now with no problems
and had over 100k on it when it was rebuilt so those heads have over 200k on
them, some of which was put on with unleaded regular and no additives. I
did run the mid grade while it was available so don't know exactly how many
miles were unleaded but it has been a considerable amount.

Still runs good but haven't had the heads off to look at the valves. Might
get a shock when I do, don't know :-)

With vintage iron I think the additive idea might be warranted but if it is
your daily driver it might be a good idea to take a look at the seats at the
earliest justifiable opportunity and if necessary just go ahead and have the
better seats put in so you can go on with your life in a care free
manner......:-) When I was a kid I would've done it just for kicks, now I
have to have a darned good reason to do any work on the darn thing.

Just last night my throttle lingage fell out of the carb throttle arm when
the nut fell off due to lack of maintenance (why else would it come loose
:-)) Had to stop right in the middle of the street to fix it. One thing I
finally learned about old trucks......I always have a tool box with almost
every size wrench along with other stuff like duct (Duck?) tape, mechanic's
wire, pliers and other essential stuff so I just reached back there and
grabbed the right tools and fixed it in about 2 minutes :-) Still irritated
me though :-)

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> be done. Seems to me that there are a lot of people on this list that
> really do know the answer/mechanics to this one. Anyone care
> to jump in and
> explain this one to us? And any possible ideas on the best
> additive to use.
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Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 14:54:03 -0500
From: Marvin Meyer
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Happy Thanksgiving

Our Thanksgiving Day is over and yours has begun
Have a safe drive and and happy one
Christmas sale and lines start tomorrow!!
Marvin Meyer
Stratford, Ont. Canada
meyer strat.net

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Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 12:11:48 -0700
From: "Kiernan, Denny"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - FTE 61-79- Apprenticeship

Here's a question mostly for the younger members of this list:

Being born too late to be around when these 60's and 70's came out, how
did you learn the mechanics? Of course if your dad or somebody was into
them and you picked it up from him, it's easy to see. But are there any
who learned it a different way? How did you do it?

I've always thought that auto mechanics should be a required subject in
high school. I've gone through life knowing very little about the
subject and it has been a huge disadvantage all my life.. The same goes
for a couple of other subjects like basic money management, home
construction and financing, nutrition, etc. I wish I'd been taught these
things instead of the stuff that has turned out to be completely
useless, like philosophy, Latin, biology.

Denny
'72 F-100 360 2WD Manual everything, 140K
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Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 15:14:47 -0500
From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - 390/460 flywheels

In 79 or so the 460 was changed to external balance according to some
sources I have. Not sure exactly when in 78/79 but somewhere about then it
was changed for some odd reason according to these sources. I have a 78
lincoln 460 I will be taking apart one day and I'll see if that one is one
of the "bad" ones :-)

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> except the 410/428 and Cammer 427 use the Zero balance as
> does the 460. Any year
> 460 should bolt up though.
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Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 16:18:06 EST
From: Bad4dFilly aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - FUNNY but very lil FTE content =(

Hi guys! PUH-LEASE don't get mad at me yet! I just read this and found it
hilarious and I thought y'all may like it. I
promise I won't make this a habit, just found it cute.

*~*~Lisa and Envy~*~*
*~*~Silly boys...trucks are for GIRLS~*~*

SANTA'S NEW CONTRACT

Subject: Christmas 1999

A new contract for Santa has finally been negotiated....Please read the
following carefully......

I regret to inform you that, effective immediately, I will no longer be able
to serve Southern United States on Christmas Eve. Due to the overwhelming
current population of the earth, my contract was renegotiated by North
American Fairies and Elves Local 209. I now
serve only certain areas of Ohio, Indiana, Illinois, Wisconsin and Michigan.

art of the new and better contract I also get longer breaks for milk and
cookies so keep that in mind.

However, I'm certain that your children will be in good hands with
your local replacement who happens to be my third cousin, Bubba Claus. His
side of the family is from the South Pole. He shares my goal of delivering
toys to all the good boys and girls; however, there are a few differences
between us. Differences such as:

1. There is no danger of a Grinch stealing your presents from Bubba Claus.

as a gun rack on his sleigh and a bumper sticker that reads: "These toys
insured by Smith and Wesson."

2. Instead of milk and cookies, Bubba Claus prefers that children leave an RC
cola and pork rinds [or a moon pie] on the fireplace. And Bubba doesn't smoke
a pipe. He dips a little snuff though, so please have an empty spit can
handy.

3. Bubba Claus' sleigh is pulled by floppy-eared, flyin' coon dogs instead of
reindeer. I made the mistake of loaning him a couple of my reindeer one time,
and Blitzen's head now overlooks Bubba's fireplace.

4. You won't hear "On Comet, on Cupid, on Donner and Blitzen..." when Bubba
Claus arrives. Instead, you'll hear, "On Earnhardt, on Wallace, on Martin and
Labonte. On Rudd, on Jarrett, on Elliott and Petty."

5. "Ho, ho, ho!" has been replaced by "Yee Haw!" And you also are likely to
hear Bubba's elves respond, "I her'd dat!"

6. As required by Southern highway laws, Bubba Claus' sleigh does
have a Yosemite Sam safety triangle on the back with the words "Back off" The
last I heard it also had other decorations on the sleigh back as well. One
is a
Ford logo with lights that race through the letters and the other is
a caricature of me (Santa Claus) going wee wee on the Tooth Fairy.

7. The usual Christmas movie classics such as "Miracle on 34th Street" and
"It's a Wonderful Life" will not be shown in your negotiated viewing area.

ead, you'll see "Boss Hogg Saves Christmas" and "Smokey and the Bandit IV"
featuring Burt Reynolds as Bubba Claus and dozens of state patrol cars
crashing into each other.

8. Bubba Claus doesn't wear a belt. If I were you, I'd make sure you, the
wife, and the kids turn the other way when he bends over to put presents under
the tree.

9. And finally, lovely Christmas songs have been sung about me like Rudolph
The Red-nosed Reindeer" and Bing Crosby's "Santa Claus Is Coming to Town."
This year songs about Bubba Claus will be played on all the AM radio stations
in the South. Those song title will be Mark Chesnutt's "Bubba Claus Shot the
Jukebox" and "Grandma Got Run'd Over by a Reindeer."

Sincerely Yours, Santa Clause (member of North American Fairies and Elves
Local 209)
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Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 15:22:02 -0600
From: "William S. Hart"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - FTE 61-79- Apprenticeship

> Being born too late to be around when these 60's and 70's came out, how
> did you learn the mechanics? Of course if your dad or somebody was into
> them and you picked it up from him, it's easy to see. But are there any
> who learned it a different way? How did you do it?

Well I learned a bit from my dad (Thanks Dad!), and am still learning from
him, but for the Fuel Injection stuff that he's scared to death of, I
learned a lot of that through articles on the net and magazines ... that
with my engineering training makes it seem oh so simple ... yeah whatever,
anyway I've actually learned quite a bit through sheer experience and
reading ... But having a father who's really into the old car scene has made
it amazingly easy to gather experience, if only in how to get more leverage
on the bolt :)

Just my $.02
wish

96 Mustang GT 5spd 4.6L
73ish 1/2ton 4x4 6.4L
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Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 16:27:35 -0500
From: Marvin Meyer
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - FTE 61-79- Apprenticeship

Denny;
In high school we had several choices when it came to subject picking for
the next year. It was structured in Canada & specifically in Ontario in the
70's so that if you chose shops, there were mandatory classes you took.

I for one like playing with lawn mowers in Grade 5 so in 9 I took shops.
Here's the mandatory list if you took Automechanics
* Auto
* Welding
* Machining
* Blueprint Reading
You would switch every semester
After gr. 10 then it was narrowed down
* Auto
* Welding
* Machine Shop
At this point when you reach grade 12 at the beginning of the year you
where to see a guidance councilor. They would and you would determine if
you liked it.
If so then you were Enrolled into the Map 40 program.
This program would allow you to work on other peoples cars and do
diagnostics and trouble shooting.
At the end of your high school years you would go on to College with the
credits from your high school days and would finish the course in 18 months
I never did this but I was enrolled into the Map 40.
Thanks to the experience of my brother he pointed out quite a few
disadvantages. My high school principal suggested that I phone up and apply
for a machinist Apprenticeship at the bearing plant ( back then they were
widely known to "take on" 20 or more students)
By that fall I was in...............That was 18yrs ago & still there (
apart of the wood work now)
Marvin
meyer strat.net

Being born too late to be around when these 60's and 70's came out, how
did you learn the mechanics?

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Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 15:39:08 -0600
From: "Freewheel"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - A LIL MO' INFO

If he stays around long enough, He'll learn :)

Larry

>
> >
>
> OOOOOOOOHHHH!!!! Now I dig that! *Evil grin* But my B/F doesn't! HeHe!
>
> *~*~Lisa and Envy~*~*
> *~*~Silly boys...trucks are for GIRLS!~*~*
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Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 17:35:59 -0500
From: "Serian"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: Bronco Rebuild

> On one side of the front axle the shock
> mounts to a bracket in the radius arm, just like it shows in The Book, but
> the other side has no bracket on the radius arm - instead the shock was
> mounted on a non-OEM bracket that is a cast part of the cap (front, or
> opposite site of axle from radius arm - holds c-bushings in place), and
not
> present on the other side. The top brackets for the shocks are, on one
> side, behind the wheel, and in FRONT of the wheel on the other side. I am
> guessing this would drive somebody who knew better crazy - just makes me
> nervous.

This seems to be the normal setup from the factory ... my '79 Bronco
is like that. There are extra mounting holes in the other radius arm, and
the radius arm cap has the extra flange of metal off the front to be able
to mount the hardware necessary to convert to a quad shock front
suspension. I am considering converting mine that way ... just need
to custom make the shock bracket pieces for the radius arm (they are
no longer available from Ford), and drill a bolt hole in the other side
radius arm cap flange in the right places :-)
I would guess Ford did that intentionally in order to more easily
facilitate the snowplowing package offered on some models.


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Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 18:54:01 -0500
From: j arnold
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Towing Snirt

At 08:43 PM 11/22/99 -0600, you wrote:
>Folks:
>I am trying to figure out how to get Snirt (SNow-IRT--this IS North Dakota)
>my '74 F-100 from ND to Louisiana. She is something of a work in progress,
>so I would rather not drive (though it might be peaceful since SWMBO would
>be in the van with the 5 kids ;-)). I am toying with the idea of buying a
>tow bar and pulling her behind my D # van. Any suggestions?
>Thanks!
>Marty
>
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Might try a tow dolly. Can rent from u-haul. If we're talking full size
van, it should handle it fairly well.

stoney

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Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 16:12:52 -0800 (PST)
From: canzus seanet.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - '79 Bronco Rebuild - Two Birds

At 06:18 PM 23:11:99 -0800, Bill Beyer wrote:
>400 is the same block, heads & rods...direct bolt in. The only thing that
>changes is the pistons & crank...nothing external and 49 extra cubes is
>nothing to sneeze at!

Plus, if you keep the 351M valve covers, with the attatched engine
family label still readable, the smog nazi's couldn't tell the difference.

>"If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, riddle them with bullets"

Yeah, what he said..

Steve & the Rockette
68 F100, 390cid, FMX
63 F100, 292cid, 3speed
72 Capri 2000, hers
73 Capri 2600,tube frame going in.....
73 MGB GT, Our Toy
94 SHO, SWMBO's
97 Contour, Mine

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Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 16:27:41 -0800
From: Dennis Pearson
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - FTE 61-79- Apprenticeship

Thanks for your message at 12:11 PM 11/24/99 -0700, Kiernan, Denny. Your
message was:
>Here's a question mostly for the younger members of this list:
>
>Being born too late to be around when these 60's and 70's came out, how
>did you learn the mechanics? Of course if your dad or somebody was into
>them and you picked it up from him, it's easy to see. But are there any
>who learned it a different way? How did you do it?
>
>I've always thought that auto mechanics should be a required subject in
>high school. I've gone through life knowing very little about the
>subject and it has been a huge disadvantage all my life.. The same goes
>for a couple of other subjects like basic money management, home
>construction and financing, nutrition, etc. I wish I'd been taught these
>things instead of the stuff that has turned out to be completely
>useless, like philosophy, Latin, biology.

Well, Denny, first of all I disagree vehemently with your list of "useless"
subjects. Think of your brain as analogous to your body. Just as your
body needs exercise, so does your brain. Different parts of your body need
special concentration since they may not get the required development
through your everyday activity. The same goes with your brain. Take
philosophy, for instance. While you do not in your everyday life directly
think about philosophy, a part of your brain benefitted from thinking about
philosophy in whatever class or situation you "took" philosophy. You may
not have even been able to formulate your question as articulately as you
did if you had not had that "stuff" you think of useless. Learning is not
on object (stuff); it is a process whether it is writing an essay or
repairing a leaky master cylinder.

Now to the main part of your question. I think the first word I ever
uttered was "car." I had an uncle who was a mechanic and my dad seemed to
always do his own automotive work out of economic necessity, at least in my
formative years. I managed to badger my parents into letting me get my
first vehicle (a '48 Plymouth woodie cut into a pickup) when I was 13 for
$25. At 14 I worked and saved $125 for my second vehicle (a '52 Plymouth
convertible--do I sense a trend here?). Then I purchased two 1951
Mercuries (at last--in the Ford family). Well, the list goes on and on and
includes MANY Ford Trucks (I can't even count how many.). From the very
beginning, I fixed everything that went wrong with any vehicle I had. I
made plenty of mistakes along the way and sometimes went without a car, a
situation which motivated even more to fix whatever needed to be
fixed...and if I didn't know how to do something, I found out or thought it
out logically and tried. Of course if I didn't experience some degree of
pleasure doing all this, I wouldn't have continued fixing anything I
could...and I still do at 53. Of course, newer vehicles have gone way
beyond my expertise...

Sorry for the long post, but now I guess I don't need a biography...


Dennis Pearson in Kennewick, WA

1962 Unibody, short box, big window--351C
1966 F250 Custom Cab, 352, 4-speed
1962 short stepside (big empty space under the hood)
I shortened this to only FT's

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