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61-79-list-digest Tuesday, November 23 1999 Volume 03 : Number 431



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In this issue:

FTE 61-79 - 390 or 429, that is the question.
Re: FTE 61-79 - A LIL MO' INFO
FTE 61-79 - 65 F100
FTE 61-79 - Re: pass side front diff
FTE 61-79 - 66 master cylinder conversion
FTE 61-79 - steering bind
Re: FTE 61-79 - Heater not working
Re: FTE 61-79 - 390 or 429, that is the question.
Re: FTE 61-79 - 390 or 429, that is the question.
FTE 61-79 - biography
FTE 61-79 - Towing Snirt
FTE 61-79 - Ford Front Diffs
Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: Econoline taillights
Re: FTE 61-79 - 390 or 429, that is the question.
Re: FTE 61-79 - A LIL MO' INFO.........
FTE 61-79 - A little bout me
Re: FTE 61-79 - 66 master cylinder conversion
Re: FTE 61-79 - valve job only
RE: FTE 61-79 - Re: Econoline taillights
RE: FTE 61-79 - swaybarS
Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: A LIL MO' INFO
FTE 61-79 - Re: pass side front diff
FTE 61-79 - steering bind
FTE 61-79 - A LIL MO' INFO
FTE 61-79 - RE: A LIL MO' INFO...
Re: FTE 61-79 - A LIL MO' INFO.........

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Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 15:13:57 -0800
From: "Pat"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 390 or 429, that is the question.

Howdy Folks,
My name is Pat and I too have the sickness (Believed to be either
genetic or brought on by inhaling Ford exhaust at an early age.) I work as a
marine surveyor on the British Columbia coast (AKA: Just plain messing
around with boats) 52 years old, not married (God's blessing on the ladies)
and have two trucks on the go at this time, a 76 F250 4x4 and a 79 F250 4x4
(The Dream Truck)
I've been lurking in the cyber shadows, reading the list as a "Must-Do"
thing and think that I would pay the internet fees if the List was all that
I got!
For Dream Truck, I'm wondering which engine would be the best choice: A
390 or a 429? I plan to run 4:10 gears, C-6 and 36-38" tires. I will be
using it to get fire wood, drive 1000 miles north each year on the annual
hunting trip and for what ever else I feel like. I'm planning on building
which ever I decide on to handle propane (1/2 price in Canada). From what I
can gather, a 390 will give me better mileage with no load and the same with
a load. What do you folks think?
Pat
78F150
76 F250 4x4
79 F250 4x4 under construction.
87 H*nda Prelude


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Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 16:53:17 -0700
From: William A Whited
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - A LIL MO' INFO

Well I guess it's my turn. I'm William, better
known to family and friends as Tony (middle name is
Anthony). I'm 27, happily divorced, but seeing
somebody. I have one manchild that will be 5 in Feb
and is my Mini Me, people freak out when they see us
together. Looks just like me and acts just like,
sometimes to my ex's displeasure. By my sig, I'm
living in El Paso TX now, just left Guantanamo Bay Cuba
in Aug., I'm in the Marines and have been for a little
over 9 years in. I plan on retiring and then getting a
job where I can actually get a good pile of spare parts
on my garage floor. I currently own 2 fords listed
below. My 74 is really ready for a frame up, but I
don't have the time or facilities at this time. My job
keeps me on the road 2-3 weeks out of the month. I've
been on the list for about 2 years and loved every
minute of it.

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William A Whited
74 F100 RANGER SUPERCAB 390
77 F150 CUSTOM 460
EL Paso, TX
SEMPER FI


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Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 16:26:00 -0800
From: Bird Sandi M CNFB
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 65 F100

Gary, Mike, Marv, Scott, Daniel, Jerry, Phil, Denny, and Roberta (and any
other positive responders I might have missed)...thanks.

Denny,
no, I'm not an MP, but I grew up a Marine 'brat', and have worked for the
Marine Corps (in a civilian capacity) for the last 21 years...so I'm pretty
tough. Therefore, although I don't give orders, I don't take them either.
Well, I TRY to give orders, but I get ignored!!! HA!!!

Roberta,
short story about my truck (to bolster your faith in yours).
My dad and I used to work on this truck together all the time, so when he
died I knew about every little ding, dent, mishap, quirk, etc and because of
the festidious individual that he was (and I'm just like him), through his
automotive repair and fuel records, I knew the kind of mileage it had on it.
I spent 15 months trying to convince my stepmother to sell me that truck.
She only relented because it was just 'taking up space' in her side yard.
It had been sitting, unstarted, in the same spot for 15 months when I went
to pick it up. I figured I was going to have to jump start it, but Dad had
taught me a little trick so I bought a couple of cokes on the way over, and
poured them over the battery terminals. That truck roared to life on the
first try. I knew I'd have a problem with the fuel in it, but I wanted to
get it the heck out of there before she changed her mind, so I just left and
stopped at the first gas station I came to. Fortunately, there wasn't much
fuel in the tanks, so I filled them both (hoping to dilute any fuel that had
turned to varnish, or any water that might have accumulated), over 30
gallons! I had a 45 mile drive to my ranch. The only major problem I had
was that all the rubber fuel lines were rotted and I all but ran out of gas
in that 45 mile drive (good thing I don't toss cigarettes out the window,
I'd have left a fire trail 45 miles long!!). That's after sitting with zero
attention for 15 months. I tell you this to show how tough these trucks
are, and how much heart (I believe) they have. Of the 360,000 miles on the
original I-240 engine (just like yours), I have personally put 200,000 in
that last 20 years. And I can tell you that I believe the main reason that
this engine has lasted this long is:
I change the oil, including the oil bath air cleaner, and oil filter
EVERY 3,000 to 3,500 miles.
I use a lead additive in the unleaded fuel.
I check all fluid levels and check the hoses every month.
I check for loose nuts, bolts, belts, and clips every month.
And I openly LOVE him to death!!!!

I've been told that the 240 engine was one of the toughest ever made, don't
know how true that is, but I know it out performed the 360 in my 73 F250,
and the 5.2L in my 89 Bronco.

I wouldn't hesitate to drive anywhere in my truck, except for one thing.
I'm terrified of breaking down somewhere where I can't work on it, or get
help from the one mechanic I trust to work on it, and sometimes it only
takes one time to spoil an engine.

So, keep the faith, if your truck runs as great as mine, it'll get you where
you want to go, for miles to come!!!

Sandi
65 F100
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Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 16:31:37 -0800
From: sparky mail.island.net
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: pass side front diff

Nope went and checked. Mine is a 73 F250 with a New Process divorced
transfer case and the diff is definitely on the left/drivers side. However
when I checked it from the front it was on the right/driver's side :)

Sparky
73ish F250
4x4 3?0FE

>I have a 74 F250 with a divorced NP205 and my diff is on the drivers
>side! So it cant be the only way they come.
>
> > but I thought that all F series trucks that were equipped with a
> > divoriced NP 205 (like mine) had the diff on the right side
> > due to being
> > the only way the T-Case was availible from New Process.


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Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 19:35:18 EST
From: Mercpuman aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 66 master cylinder conversion

I'm going to convert my single m/c to a dual system. Does anybody know
what
years would be a direct bolt-up? Also, is the prop. valve a dealer item
only? I'll be staying with all drums for now.
Thanx, Ed
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Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 17:22:37 PST
From: "gene gardner"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - steering bind

Thanks for the input on my steering problem. As Wish and Gary guessed, my
cab mounts are rusted out and the cab has apparently settled a little more,
causing the binding and the damage to the lower bearing in the steering
column. You can see the cab is resting on the frame where there's supposed
to be a couple of inches of clearance. The rubber bushings look OK though.
Don't know yet if there's any damage to the gearbox.

Found an ol' boy who's going to brace the cab with a 2x4 under the
floorboard -- should keep me on the road until I order the new mounts which
he says he can weld in. Think I'll go with the Dennis Carpenter original
parts ($80 each side) even though it's double what JCW charges. Don't want
to re-do them again like Marko had to.







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Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 20:24:04 EST
From: SHill48337 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Heater not working

In a message dated 11/22/99 1:52:09 PM Eastern Standard Time,
dpearson ctc.edu writes:


read, a lot of new car manufacturers are putting Bars Leak in right off the
assembly line. Whether this is tru or not, I don't know... >>

Hi Dennis, your are right that ads say that. I've used Bars Leak all of my
life and never had problems that I can contribute to it, but I too like
synthetic oils so there goes my creditability. Just a side note, back in
1956 Admiral Rickover was trying to get the Nautilus commissioned and on the
street. It seems the Reactor Plant Fresh Water (RPFW) system that cools
things in the reactor compartment such as the rod drive motors and the main
coolant pumps, etc, these items are not assessable during reactor operation.
Developed a leak they could not isolate or find. Rather than put the ship
back in the builders yard and miss some political commitments, part of crew
was sent into NewLondon separately and to different auto supply houses where
they each bought a considerable quantity of Bars Leak. They needed a lot as
the system held around 300 gallons of water. They did not want the news
media to know there was any kind of a problem. Anyway, some Sailors have big
mouths (somebody has been talking to Tom Clancey) and it was not long before
Bars Leak started printing this story on the can, (this was the 50s). When I
joined the Submarine Force later I verified the story. So I think the ads by
Bars leak are probably pretty accurate. I intend to use it in my new 460
when I first fill the coolant system. It no longer comes in cans and is a
lot more fluid in the bottle than it used to be.
Burt Hill Kennewick WA 1972 F-250 4x4 460
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Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 20:38:02 -0500
From: "Dan Starner"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 390 or 429, that is the question.

Enjoyed reading your message. I had a 390 that I rebuilt years ago and fell
in love with it. I swore that engine sang when I hit the higher RPM's. I
guess that reveals my vote.

In fact, I miss that engine so much that I've gone and purchased another to
rebuild (mild) w/ a C6. Before buying the engine I stumbled on a decent '79
F100 (2WD) w/ a 302...C4 combo. You know where I'm going with this. But
I've heard the frame was narrowed on the late '70's F-series and the 390 may
not set down in and bolt up very easily.

I'm being patient with this question because the 'ole 302 is running like a
champ (for transportation) but the 390 is tore down to the short block and
has taken over my 1-car garage untill I make a decision.

Any insight is appreciated....Dan


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From: Pat
To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Monday, November 22, 1999 6:39 PM
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 390 or 429, that is the question.


>Howdy Folks,
> My name is Pat and I too have the sickness (Believed to be either
>genetic or brought on by inhaling Ford exhaust at an early age.) I work as
a
>marine surveyor on the British Columbia coast (AKA: Just plain messing
>around with boats) 52 years old, not married (God's blessing on the ladies)
>and have two trucks on the go at this time, a 76 F250 4x4 and a 79 F250 4x4
>(The Dream Truck)
> I've been lurking in the cyber shadows, reading the list as a
"Must-Do"
>thing and think that I would pay the internet fees if the List was all that
>I got!
> For Dream Truck, I'm wondering which engine would be the best choice: A
>390 or a 429? I plan to run 4:10 gears, C-6 and 36-38" tires. I will be
>using it to get fire wood, drive 1000 miles north each year on the annual
>hunting trip and for what ever else I feel like. I'm planning on building
>which ever I decide on to handle propane (1/2 price in Canada). From what I
>can gather, a 390 will give me better mileage with no load and the same
with
>a load. What do you folks think?
>Pat
>78F150
>76 F250 4x4
>79 F250 4x4 under construction.
>87 H*nda Prelude
>
>
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Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 01:43:15 +0000 (GMT)
From: David Henderson
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 390 or 429, that is the question.

> My name is Pat and I too have the sickness (Believed to be either
> genetic or brought on by inhaling Ford exhaust at an early age.)

OK, now, let's analyze this. First, we know that Fordaholism appears=20
to follow pedigrees. What this means is that Fordaholics tend to=20
produce offspring that are Fordaholics. This would lead one to=20
believe that Fordaholism is indeed genetic. However, it is known that=20
Fordaholism is contagious, e.g. A Fordaholic can pass on his=20
affliction to his neighbors and coworkers. Therefore, Fordaholism=20
must not be genetic, but infectious. But, in light of the former,=20
there may indeed be a genetic predisposition to Fordaholism, although=20
this could also be an environmental effect.

I am glad to say that observation has indicated that Chevroholism is=20
not genetic as there have been many cases of Chevroholics recovering=20
from their terminal ailment and then entering into a long bout with=20
Fordaholism (certainly a better predicament). So, there is hope for=20
all of our terminally ill friends!

Experiments can be performed in order to determine the exact origin of=20
the malady (Fordaholism), but that is another story... ;^)

Dave H

- --=20
_
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\( Gig 'em Aggies! '93
Beat t.u.!!
(That small non-significant liberal arts school in Austin,
or that small slum area beside the capitol)

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Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 17:47:04 PST
From: "gene gardner"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - biography

Why not? I'm Gene Gardner, a 2-yr. lurker, 46 yrs. old and still unmarried.
Always thought I had plenty of time to find a wife but all of a sudden I'm
looking around and noticing I'm all alone ...

Got a degree in Radio-TV-Film from the University of Texas way back when
tuition was about $16 bucks a credit hour, then had a moving and storage
business in Austin for 10 years or so. Got divorced, moved to Mexico for no
good reason, started teaching English, ended up staying 6 years. Loved
teaching so went back to Texas and got certified as a bilingual elementary
teacher in Odessa. Later got a Master's in Reading when I'd had enough of
playing Kiddie Cop and, after another 2-year stint teaching at a Mexican
college, recently took a job in Wisconsin. I'm the coordinator of a federal
program to improve literacy in lower income families. I love the job and get
to practice my Spanish, among other things.

My truck is a 70 F100 with the famous I-6. I didn't set out to restore it
but now I've replaced so many things I've gotta go all the way. I'm a
believer in stock parts and less is more, i.e. manual steering and brakes,
no AC, etc. It also makes repairs easier, which is important since I'm no
mechanic. Still, with the help of this list I can almost say that I'm almost
a mechanic, sort of. At least I've come to understand how things work. This
was my first Ford and I've got no regrets -- I plan on keeping ol Hud on the
road another 10 years or so. Thanks to everyone for the advice and good
company.

Gene Gardner, Texican Teacher

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Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 20:43:04 -0600
From: "Martin Carter"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Towing Snirt

Folks:
I am trying to figure out how to get Snirt (SNow-IRT--this IS North Dakota)
my '74 F-100 from ND to Louisiana. She is something of a work in progress,
so I would rather not drive (though it might be peaceful since SWMBO would
be in the van with the 5 kids ;-)). I am toying with the idea of buying a
tow bar and pulling her behind my D # van. Any suggestions?
Thanks!
Marty

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Date: 22 Nov 99 21:49:18 EST
From: "Dave W."
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Ford Front Diffs

I hate to bust anyones bubble, but if it is a Ford then the Pumpkin is on=
the
drivers side, Otherwise someone has changed it. Check the tag on the tran=
sfer
case. Usually (Don't quote me on this) it will say 205-C/205-D if it came=
from
a ch*vy or a D*dge.
Dave Complete and Total FordNut, Highboy Nut, & FE Nut too!!!!

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Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 21:55:20 EST
From: IanBoss69 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: Econoline taillights

ohhhh,,,i accually know what hes talking about,,,,looks kinda like the old
dodge pickup vans,,,,but with a back end,,,,gotcha

Ian
79 F250 4x4 4spd 351M
True Blue Ford Blue
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Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 22:04:34 EST
From: IanBoss69 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 390 or 429, that is the question.

In a message dated 11/22/99 6:24:33 PM Eastern Standard Time,
patsplace aisl.bc.ca writes:

> For Dream Truck, I'm wondering which engine would be the best choice: A
> 390 or a 429? I plan to run 4:10 gears, C-6 and 36-38" tires. I will be
> using it to get fire wood, drive 1000 miles north each year on the annual
> hunting trip and for what ever else I feel like.
I think a just having a really cool answer for the age old question would be
enough to put in a 429.
"Whats under the hood?"
" A Propane powered Big Block 429 cubic inch Ford"
now is that a cool title or what?

Ian
79 F250 4x4 4spd 351M
True Blue Ford Blue
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Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 19:14:54 -0700
From: "Kiernan, Denny"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - A LIL MO' INFO.........

"John LaGrone" done wrote:

> Oh, I forgot....I like bluegrass, especially Lester and Earl or Bill Monroe.
> See, I told you I was weird.


People that DONT like bluegrass are the weird ones. Also the stuff that
bluegrass came from, like the Carter family and so forth.

FTE content: I dont mind listening to Tennessee Ernie Ford, either.
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Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 19:41:53 -0800
From: "Michael J. Platt"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - A little bout me

Hello All,

I don't say much on the list but I think very soon I will be gracing the list
with bundles of questions (tranny swap very soon) .......
Well, my name is Michael J. Platt, and I'm from Media, Pennsylvania.
Its a small town about 30 miles outside of Philadelphia. I'm sixteen
years old and I run a small a landscaping business. I go to highschool
at nearby Penncrest High School, and drive my 1979 Ford F100Custom
there everyday. I love to work on all things mechanical. I started on lawnmowers
when I was about seven years old, and built a few go carts, and gradually
I worked up to getting into larger things.... IE my truck. I have a small machine
shop in my friends basement up the street where I can fabricate parts if I need to,
and its where I also rebuild a lot of the engines on my landscaping equipment.
Aside from my truck and school and the business I enjoy hunting, fishing, bowling,
and CB and amateur radio (working on getting my HAM license).
I also play several instruments. The guitar is the one which I have studied and
still study
for almost twelve years now. I am currently building my own seven string archtop
jazz
guitar and hope to complete it by the end of the year. In addition to guitar I play
banjo,
mandolin, harmonica, and organ. I also enjoy computers and am learning C++ in
highschool currently.
Just to give you some background on my truck.... its a 79 F100 Custom, as I
said before,
and it has a 300 cid inline six with a C6 automatic tranny. I had the bed Linex-ed
after I sanded it
down to bare metal, and it was painted (at Maaco ......big mistake.....) baby blue.
I have a 79
F150 which I am using for parts including a Clark 4 speed (3 w/overdrive)
transmission. I want
to someday convert my truck to stickshift and would like to use this transmission
which is on a 302.
...which brings me to a question.....Will the bellhousing interchange on the 302 and
300? How about the flywheel?
Well, that's pretty much the story on me.....thanks in advance for the answers
to my questions.
I've learned so much by just reading these everyday and I really am looking forward
to becoming more active on the list.

Sincerely,

Michael J. Platt



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Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 21:07:26 -0800
From: Don
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 66 master cylinder conversion

Mercpuman aol.com wrote:
>
> I'm going to convert my single m/c to a dual system. Does anybody know
> what
> years would be a direct bolt-up? Also, is the prop. valve a dealer item
> only? I'll be staying with all drums for now.
> Thanx, Ed
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You can use anything thru 79 that I can think of. As for the
proportioning valve, wrecking yard.

Laters
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Don Grossman
duckdon pacific.net
99 Contour
63 F-100 4x4
43 GPW
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Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 21:22:59 -0800 (PST)
From: canzus seanet.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - valve job only

At 08:52 AM 22:11:99 -0600, John LaGrone wrote:
>I am about to tackle my son's Monte Carlo for the same reasons. The number
>one plug fouls in about 400 miles and the engine is loosing coolant, not
>oil, plus I believe the detergent oil would foul the plug much faster. He
>let it get hot about 15 months ago. I believe (and hope) that the head
>gasket has blown between the water jacket and the combustion chamber. His
>engine has just over 100K miles on it. I put in a timing chain and cam at
>about 85K. Anyway, unless I find damage when I pull the heads, I am just
>going to do a valve job.
>

John;

I hate to say this, but the chubbies usually crack the heads between
cylinders 3&5 and 4&6 when overheated, It's a design flaw, one of the
few in the SBC.

Steve & the Rockette
68 F100, 390cid, FMX
63 F100, 292cid, 3speed
72 Capri 2000, hers
73 Capri 2600,tube frame going in.....
73 MGB GT, Our Toy
94 SHO, SWMBO's
97 Contour, Mine

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Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 21:23:09 -0800 (PST)
From: canzus seanet.com
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Re: Econoline taillights

At 10:37 AM 22:11:99 -0600, William S. Hart wrote:
>> Arent the econoline tailights the same as the F-series taillights??? They
>> look pretty similar to me, but I could be wrong.
>>
>
> Ian,
>
>He's talkin about the mini-econoline pickups, they were pretty neat little
>Vans, sort of the predecessor to the mini-van ... had small round taillights
>... the full size vans do indeed share the lights with the F-series though
>up until a few years ago anyway ...
>

Would they be the same as the '57 to '63 tail lights?? I think I've got an
extra
set....

Steve & the Rockette
68 F100, 390cid, FMX
63 F100, 292cid, 3speed
72 Capri 2000, hers
73 Capri 2600,tube frame going in.....
73 MGB GT, Our Toy
94 SHO, SWMBO's
97 Contour, Mine

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Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 21:23:24 -0800 (PST)
From: canzus seanet.com
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - swaybarS

At 10:54 AM 22:11:99 -0600, William S. Hart wrote:
>
>> Most applications have them on the front only
>> or front and rear so there must be a good reason for this?
>>

SNIP

>if you have too much rear bar and hit it too hard you can induce incredible
>over steer in a corner, that is where you turn the wheel a little and
>actually go a lot ... getting on the throttle will make this condition even
>worse ... late model stang's have a problem with that, they go from
>understeer going into the corner and then when you apply the gas (even
>lightly) you go into a "snap" oversteer where the wheel is turned way too
>far and you have to back off quickly ...

Ah yes, trailing throttle oversteer, or snap throttle oversteer, stiffen one
end and you'll loose it big time. On-ramps become a nightmare when unloaded,
and tight twisty roads are not for the faint of heart.

As my favorite *cars* are small and fast, you shouldn't try to out think the
factory designs. If you measure the factory bars on a few vehicles, you'll
find the front bar is normally 30% larger than the rear bar. They do this to
keep the handling close to neutral or to understeer at the limit of adhesion.
Weight, caster and camber for each end have a lot of influence on how a
vehicle is going to handle, as are tire contact patch, slip angles, bump steer,
spring rate, damper settings, and surface. Unfortunately, it *IS* rocket
science......

Steve & the Rockette
68 F100, 390cid, FMX
63 F100, 292cid, 3speed
72 Capri 2000, hers
73 Capri 2600,tube frame going in.....
73 MGB GT, Our Toy
94 SHO, SWMBO's
97 Contour, Mine

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Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 21:23:36 -0800 (PST)
From: canzus seanet.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: A LIL MO' INFO

At 12:11 PM 22:11:99 -0800, sparky mail.island.net wrote:

>Sparky
>73'ish F250
>4x4 3?0 FE
>
>and my new project 78 Pinto Squire Wagon
> V6 2.8L C4 tranny (will a 302 bolt to this?)

Yes, with a little work, a 302 will bolt in there, of course, you'll
need a new pair of smalls often.....

Steve & the Rockette
68 F100, 390cid, FMX
63 F100, 292cid, 3speed
72 Capri 2000, hers
73 Capri 2600,tube frame going in.....
73 MGB GT, Our Toy
94 SHO, SWMBO's
97 Contour, Mine

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Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 22:20:24 -0800
From: "Pat"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: pass side front diff

Maybe the negative on the picture was printed reversed. I've never seen a
diff on a Ford exiting on the passenger side. The 77 that I'm looking at
exits on the driver's side and all the other ones that I've ever seen, exit
on the same side. You have a rare collectors item!
Pat

You wrote:I'm not too sure how reilable it is to say that a front end which
has
>the differential on the passenger side is not from Ford. My 77 F250
>Highboy front diff is on the right side (passenger side). I may be wrong
>but I thought that all F series trucks that were equipped with a
>divoriced NP 205 (like mine) had the diff on the right side due to being
>the only way the T-Case was availible from New Process. If you want I
>can send pics.

Pat
78F150
76 F250 4x4
79 F250 4x4 under construction.
87 H*nda Prelude




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Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 22:42:01 PST
From: "Don Jones"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - steering bind

>Any of this sound familiar to you guys who replaced your cab mounts? (CJ,
>Pat, Wish, Paul B., Randy C., Wm. King, Don Jones, et al ...)
>
Actually I broke a cab mount during a fairly rough off-road trip. I hauled a
freezer and a load of fuel across the ice to a camp on an island in Lake
Huron. The trip was 25 miles each way, over fairly rough ice at 50-60 mph in
4-hi.
I broke the front passenger side, and it never affected the steering, but
it woud clunk pretty loudly on any bump.


Don Jones
1970 f-250 ~Fordzilla~

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Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 23:59:23 PST
From: "steve potratz"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - A LIL MO' INFO

I thought I would bust a gut at Tony's AA comment. I am Steve Potratz and my
story is I am 40, married 19 years, 4 tax deductions, 1 mortgage, 1 cat, 1
mechanical engineering degree, live in North Idaho where vehicle taxes are
cheep so I have several, and have had a whole bunch of ford trucks(15 since
highschool). I play rock and roll guitar every wed night for the church
teen group. Dream of someday finishing my two trucks and Tbird. Over the
time I have been messing with my rigs I've done most things one can do.
Swapped bodies,engines, converted two to 4wd, fulltime to part time, messed
with alcohol fuels, 390s, 352s,460s. I even had the coveted 56 f100 for
awhile.
Today life revolves around family so the projects have to wait-but I am
still gathering parts for the 71 swb and the 78 supercab. The gearhead will
ride again! One other object of my "spare time" is my 58 Massey Furgeson
model 65 wheel tractor that was built on my birth day. I would love to get
together with those on the list from Eastern Washington and North Idaho if
there is any interest.

Steve
ps
Much discussion on stopleak. If you use it make sure you know where the
leak is. I had a problem on my van with a warped aluminum intake manifold.
I used the Bar stuff and it eventually ended up it the oil and ruined the
rest of the engine-it is not for every coolant repair.


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Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 03:21:10 -0500
From: Tim Anderson
Subject: FTE 61-79 - RE: A LIL MO' INFO...

Great idea Lisa! Thanks.
Digest mode puts me on the tail end of all the
neat stuff but what the heck...
My name is Tim Anderson, and I'm a 39 YO
aircraft mechanic here in Anchorage, AK.
I've been a Ford guy since I got my first car
(61Galaxie). Since then I've had eveything
from a 2 liter Pinto to a 69 Cougar w/428 P.I.
My first truck was a 65 F-100 (still going) but my
current baby is a 67 F-100 which is ungoing a
frame-off rebuild. My intention was origionally
to replace a noisy lifter, but here I am 2 years
and several $$$ later with a garage full of new
but disassembled truck stuff. My wife hasn't
been able to park indoors through 2 1/2 Alaskan
winters and doesn't complain. Now that's true
love! I'm also the proud dad of a 13 yo girl and
4 yo boy. They can't understand why I don't just
"put that truck together" and drive it. Oh well...
This list has been a great help with my project.
Thanks to everyone for sharing your knowledge
and for sharing a bit of who you are with us all.
Have a happy Thanksgiving Day!

Tim in Anchorage
'67 F-100 (Lunar Green and growing)
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Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 03:41:29 EST
From: SevnD2 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - A LIL MO' INFO.........

Hi to everyone !
My name is Rollie ( pronounced like Raleigh ) . How many of you knew that ?
LOL .I live in King , North Carolina , but am a native of Tulsa Oklahoma . I
am coming up on 35 years in about a month . I have been married for 11 years
to Donna , my high school sweetheart . I have two sons , Brian age 9 (
straight A student , soccer player , good citizen award winner ) . I was
never that good ! LOL . Matthew age 4 ( cookie monster , loves and wants a
big truck ! ) . I am starting them out right by letting them help with my old....


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