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 ford-trucks.com (61-79-list-digest) To: 61-79-list-digest ford-trucks.com Subject: 61-79-list-digest V3 #429 Reply-To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com Sender: owner-61-79-list-digest ford-trucks.com Errors-To: owner-61-79-list-digest ford-trucks.com Precedence: bulk 61-79-list-digest Monday, November 22 1999 Volume 03 : Number 429 ======================================================================= Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1961-1979 Trucks and Vans Visit our web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com/ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - To unsubscribe, send email to: majordomo ford-trucks.com with the words "unsubscribe 61-79-list-digest" in the body of the message. ======================================================================= In this issue: RE: FTE 61-79 - Bleeding knuckles, mud, snow.... RE: FTE 61-79 - Joint ownership... RE: FTE 61-79 - A LIL MO' INFO......... RE: FTE 61-79 - heater blower motor removal RE: FTE 61-79 - Location of Coolant Tank on '78 F250 RE: FTE 61-79 - NO OIL PRESSURE RE: FTE 61-79 - Yellow Tail Gates.... RE: FTE 61-79 - steering bind RE: FTE 61-79 - Strangest '72 F-350 4x4 dually I've ever seen! RE: FTE 61-79 - swaybarS RE: FTE 61-79 - Upgrade of '78 F250 2WD to 4WD FTE 61-79 - A Lil Mo Info RE: FTE 61-79 - 360 for a 429? FTE 61-79 - A LIL MO' INFO......... FTE 61-79 - Mod Squad FTE 61-79 - Re: oil out the dipstick... RE: FTE 61-79 - swaybarS Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: 9" Re: FTE 61-79 - A LIL MO' INFO......... FTE 61-79 - RE: How'd you get the red mud off your 66? FTE 61-79 - Bars Leaks FTE 61-79 - 390 CAMS FTE 61-79 - 'Le Monstre' Re: FTE 61-79 - Yellow Tail Gates.... FTE 61-79 - Ranchero not running too well... Re: FTE 61-79 - 390 CAMS RE: FTE 61-79 - Ranchero not running too well... FTE 61-79 - A LIL MO' INFO......... Re: FTE 61-79 - Strangest '72 F-350 4x4 dually I've ever seen! Re: FTE 61-79 - Windshield Replacement Re: FTE 61-79 - NO OIL PRESSURE Re: FTE 61-79 - cougar list ? FTE 61-79 - Found Dana 60 5 lug!! FTE 61-79 - A LIL MO' INFO Re: FTE 61-79 - A LIL MO' INFO..Tony. FTE 61-79 - "fire" truck Re: FTE 61-79 - "fire" truck FTE 61-79 - Biography Re: FTE 61-79 - Windshield install - how difficult? FTE 61-79 - Re: A LIL MO' INFO ======================================================================= ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 06:12:48 -0500 From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)" Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Bleeding knuckles, mud, snow.... That's only when you're young :-) As you get older you buy a house and build a shop....:-) I've worked on many vehicles in the snow, mud, cold, rain out of necessity. Now that I have two vehicles with plates on them I only work on them when I feel like it....in a nice, well lit shop, on a two post hydraulic lift, with my roll around tool box and parts cart at my finger tips and air tools and.....and...... That's what happens when you get older and realize you don't really have to suffer to have fun :-) Still skin my knuckles though but not as often as I used to :-) - -- Michigan, Pot Hole Jumping, 78 Bronco Loving, Gary http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.thewowfactor.com/bigbroncos/detail.cfm?detailid=167 - -- > if you aren't sitting in a puddle of half frozen snow water doing > driveshaft universals, if your knuckles aren't bleeding, if > it isn't 4:00am > and you're putting on old parts that might work- to fix > broken parts that > don't work because you need your truck the next day and the > parts stores > aren't open, if you aren't so tired you could pass out and > you've lost all > feeling in your fingers, and meanwhile all you can think > about is where you > put that #^)$!%! wrench down in the dark, THEN YOU AREN'T > REALLY WORKING > ON A FORD!!!! 8-) == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 06:40:20 -0500 From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)" Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Joint ownership... Well that's 4 that are older than me so far....I'm beginning to feel young again :-) Aren't we all "Joint" owners of everything in the house? I know virtually everything in there was bought with money I set aside from my projects to allow for it :-) (Otherwise I would have a larger shop, more tools, more trucks.....:-)) - -- Michigan, Pot Hole Jumping, 78 Bronco Loving, Gary http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.thewowfactor.com/bigbroncos/detail.cfm?detailid=167 - -- > Here's my contribution. I'm a 54 year old male, married for > metal working; joint owner with my wife of many Beanie Babies == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 06:43:40 -0500 From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)" Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - A LIL MO' INFO......... Not only older but more experienced too :-) Just goes to show ya that you just "Think" you know it all....then comes along someone who really does :-) - -- Michigan, Pot Hole Jumping, 78 Bronco Loving, Gary http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.thewowfactor.com/bigbroncos/detail.cfm?detailid=167 - -- > miles out of Reubens on a farm. 54 years old, gotcha by 1 > Gary. We had > little money on the farm so we fixed everything ourselves, > (good experience > for working on Ford Trucks). Spent 24 years in nuclear > submarines, besides > having the reactor and engine room, I had the care and > feeding of our large > diesel engines. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 06:51:02 -0500 From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)" Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - heater blower motor removal The gasket between the motor flange and firewall is sticky and requires prying to get it loose the first time. They may even glue it at the factory, not sure. It's been a long time but I know I have pulled some of them out the front on trucks.....cars are a whole nuther smoke :-( That mess on the lincoln came off pretty easy once I found all the hiden bolts. They have an inner fender which has to be removed to get at two of the bolts and then the whole thing come out as a unit from the front. There are fasteners and bolts inside that have to come off too so it's not a pretty sight.......I love my non air trucks :-) Got to say though, the lincoln has a really neat way to get the heater core out from the front :-) - -- Michigan, Pot Hole Jumping, 78 Bronco Loving, Gary http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.thewowfactor.com/bigbroncos/detail.cfm?detailid=167 - -- > Its a 74 F250 custom highboy 4x4 with no air. I tried a > little bit when > I first bought the truck in the spring but it didn't want to > come out by > just removing the bolts on the fire wall....So I don't know == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 06:55:29 -0500 From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)" Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Location of Coolant Tank on '78 F250 I don't think they came with them stock, neither of mine has one. Are you sure that's not the wiper washer tank? They are normally on the driver side, at least on my two they were but could have been moved. Course if it hooked up to the radiator then......:-) - -- Michigan, Pot Hole Jumping, 78 Bronco Loving, Gary http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.thewowfactor.com/bigbroncos/detail.cfm?detailid=167 - -- > Could any of you all tell me where the Coolant Overflow tank > is located on > '78 F250. The one on my truck is zip tied to the battery. > Also where can i > get replacement for this tank. Finally where can i get > replacement door seals > for this truck. Thank you for your help. Have a Great Thanksgiving. > > Robert Bowen > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info > http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 07:04:19 -0500 From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)" Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - NO OIL PRESSURE If your gallery plugs are threaded, try putting the sender in the end of the block in one of the gallery plug holes. If you get pressure there the pump is working but there is probably a clog in the oil passage to the sender. On my 460 the sender in located in the rear and taps in to the cam/lifter oil gallery. Are the lifters noisy? If not you are getting pressure to that point at least. A freshly rebuilt engine can have all manner of teething problems, however unlikely, such as a little flake of rust settling in a small passage. Before assembling any engine you should systematically plug holes and force air through all the passages under pressure and check to see that they are all free and clear. If in doubt, run a wire in there and clean them out. Have you tried poking a wire into the passage the sender is screwed into yet? I suppose it's possible also that some part of the head gasket blew in such a way as to allow oil to flow back in to the valley but I'm guessing that there is even a way for that to happen. Can't picture it exactly in my head right now. - -- Michigan, Pot Hole Jumping, 78 Bronco Loving, Gary http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.thewowfactor.com/bigbroncos/detail.cfm?detailid=167 - -- > Cam bearing? > > > pump and inserted the pick up into a pan of oil and turned > the pump with a > > drill motor and oil came squirting out. This engine ran > for about 100 > miles > > with oil pressure and then suddenly it disappeared. Any == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 07:12:39 -0500 From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)" Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Yellow Tail Gates.... That's interesting that you would mention yellow for the tail gate :-) I painted my front Dana 44 with Emron "Canary Yellow" and since I have some left I plan to paint my new Bronco tail gate with the same paint before installing it. The rest of the truck will be EB green and tan for the time being. When I get the sheet metal replaced the whole truck will be "Mustang Sally"....er I mean Mustang Yellow :-) Wow! Tons of experience in every avenue of life :-) BTW, Hold that thought :-) - -- Michigan, Pot Hole Jumping, 78 Bronco Loving, Gary http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.thewowfactor.com/bigbroncos/detail.cfm?detailid=167 - -- > Bad4dFilly aol.com wrote: > > > It's a total > > ranch truck with a blue hood, the cab is white, the bed is > red and the > > That sounds like a good-looking truck. I would paint the tailgate > yellow, tho. > > It takes highly developed taste to appreciate real beauty sometimes. > cigar smoker, pool player, 68-yr-old grandfather, veteran of > the Korean > War and three marriages. I never fooled with cars when I was > housework (occasionally), and spend most of my time thinking about > good-looking women. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 08:04:05 -0500 From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)" Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - steering bind If I've analyzed the facts correctly it looks like you may have a collapsed body mount which allows the solidly mounted steering shaft to be forced into the steering box which is what is deforming the rag joint. Since all other components are essentially non adjustable this is the most likely cause. You may be able to alleviate some of this by loosening the 4 mount bolts under the dash and allowing the column to slide back a bit to relieve the pressure. If I understand it, this is deformed even with no steering pressure on it but if it only occurs when you attempt to turn the wheel you have a serious binding problem, either in the box or the linkage or the rag joint is not properly installed. Manual boxes are very easy to work on and bearings used to be available for them at auto parts stores but you may have to go on the internet to get them now, not sure. - -- Michigan, Pot Hole Jumping, 78 Bronco Loving, Gary http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.thewowfactor.com/bigbroncos/detail.cfm?detailid=167 - -- > road Wed. for Thanksgiving: my steering column suddenly > started binding and > clunking a little and feels generally heavy. The ragjoint is > now somewhat > cockeyed and wavy (wasn't that way last week)so I'm guessing == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 08:10:07 -0500 From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)" Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Strangest '72 F-350 4x4 dually I've ever seen! It appears to have a Chevy front end under it? Otherwise it looks pretty darned nice for that price I would say :-) A pristeen body, not restored but in like new condition is worth $3000 all by itself in my book :-) If it were a standard cab I'd be interested myself :-) - -- Michigan, Pot Hole Jumping, 78 Bronco Loving, Gary http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.thewowfactor.com/bigbroncos/detail.cfm?detailid=167 - -- > You know, I'm not one to do this, but Ya'll gotta see this!!! HAHAHAH > > > http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200382050 > > Notice the differential is on the PASSENGER side!?!?! == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 08:16:46 -0500 From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)" Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - swaybarS I've never seen a ford I beam with a front sway bar from the factory. Do they make them? 4x4's have them and I'm sure the broncos with TTB must have them as an option but just never saw one on a 2wd? It's on the rear in this case because of anticipated additional top heavyness due to the camper but normally a rear only sway bar causes handling problems I'm told. Most applications have them on the front only or front and rear so there must be a good reason for this? In 4x4 circles it is not recommended to run on the highway with front disconnected for better articulation for instance. They recommned either no sway bars or disconnect the front at the off road site and reconnect before entering the highway. - -- Michigan, Pot Hole Jumping, 78 Bronco Loving, Gary http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.thewowfactor.com/bigbroncos/detail.cfm?detailid=167 - -- > Hi again! > Well, this REALLY is my lucky day! Upon checking more thoroughly > my recently aquired Ford trucks, the F-250 camper-special 2x4 has a > rear sway-bar!! Now, THAT got me thinking.......... > mmmmmmmmmm.....................MMMMMMMMMMMMM !! == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 08:27:14 -0500 From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)" Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Upgrade of '78 F250 2WD to 4WD 4x4's have a different frame up front with a welded in cross member near the bumper and no, under engine cross member or mount stancheons. To convert you have to make up for the loss of a very serious part of the frame structure or settle for a very weakened 4x4 frame. When I built my van I cut the bottom out of the cross member and rebuilt it to exactly fit the punkin, adding some reinforcement here and there, both to maintain lower ride height and also strength. This made working on the engine a real pain but it worked very well and handled very well too. I spent 3 months of my life working on that project, welding stuff in here and cutting stuff out there until I was satisfied it would work. I could have swapped the body onto a 4x4 frame in a couple of days :-) Keep in mind also that the van already had the correct steering system to match the front tie rod assy of the Dana 44 so other than frame modifications and lifting the body it was fairly easy to do. Your 2wd truck has a rear tie rod and the box is on the wrong side of the frame to start with along with other problems you will run into as you progress. As others have said, if I had it to do over again I would have searched out a scrap chassis and rebuilt it and plopped the body onto it rather than reinvent the wheel. For $400-$600 you can find these all over the place and it's well worth it IMHO :-) - -- Michigan, Pot Hole Jumping, 78 Bronco Loving, Gary http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.thewowfactor.com/bigbroncos/detail.cfm?detailid=167 - -- > I have a 2WD F250 Extended Cab that is in great shape. > Powered by 460, C6 AT > and 4.10 gears. What would I need to find to upgrade this > truck to 4WD? Right == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 08:58:01 -0500 From: "HARLEY A PUTNAM" Subject: FTE 61-79 - A Lil Mo Info Howdy folks, with all the intros going around, I figured I throw my .02 cents worth in as well. My name is Andy Putnam, and I live in Greensboro, NC. I have been mostly lurking on the list, you all seem to have a gift for answering my questions before I get a chance to even ask them! I like that, but it doesn't motivate me to send much mail to the list. I have asked several questions, and have been given the proper info. I run a small roofing company, and we have 3 F-100 pick-up trucks that we use every day. One is a 69 with 302 and three speed, two is a 67 with a 302 and a three speed, and three is a 72 with a transplanted 429 out of a Mercury station wagon. I sure wish I had known of this list when that piece of work was done, as I am still fixing things after the fact that I would have known to fix in advance had I had this source of information. Things like getting truck oil pan, other seemingly innocent things that would have made life so much better. This motor will soon be replaced by a 360 out of a 1975 ford truck, and you will see much more of me as the rebuild process on the 429 is started. As for the rest of the info, I'm 42, have lived here all my life, been married twice, but married life and me don't seem to get along real well, so am dating, but will probably never marry again. I love salt water fishing, NASCAR, and tinkering on old trucks and cars. I also have many other projects besides those three fords that I listed above. They are: 1985 Renault Fuego....Piece of crap, but what the heck for $50.00, I have to try to bring it back from the dead. 1965 Chebby truck putting a 350 in it and auto trans...will most likely sell it when it is running 1966 Dod*e A100 van... this will end up as my go fish wagon 1977 Dod*e motor home....almost same as the Renault above...but for $700.00, I have to try to revive this one. 1987 Dod*e Ramcharger...keeping it for a souvenir, as this will most likely be the last vehicle I ever buy new 1973 Chebby C50 dump truck....looks like crap, but will haul anything I put in it....The record load is about 8 tons....so I won't complain about all the work I have had to do on this ugly truck have a few other projects, but those above are the main ones that get my attention now. If anyone has a get together near Greensboro, I'd love to go and meet some of the other folks in this area who are on the list. May even try to get to Pigeon Forge for the truck show one day. See Ya Soon, Andy Putnam, alias The Dirtyman == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 09:25:12 -0500 From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)" Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - 360 for a 429? If you have a 429 in there already you may have second thoughts about putting in a 360 since it requires a different tranny, drive shaft, mounts among other things. You would be better off to look for another of the 385 series, either the 429 or 460 unless you plan on leaving it in it's original stock configuration once the 360 is installed (72 would have had a 360 I'm pretty certain). - -- Michigan, Pot Hole Jumping, 78 Bronco Loving, Gary http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.thewowfactor.com/bigbroncos/detail.cfm?detailid=167 - -- > much better. This motor will soon be replaced by a 360 out > of a 1975 ford > truck, and you will see much more of me as the rebuild > process on the 429 is > started. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 09:27:28 -0500 From: Jim Knapper Subject: FTE 61-79 - A LIL MO' INFO......... Hi, everyone. I'm Jim, 42 married with 2 kids, girl 10, boy 8. We live in southern Ontario. I'm 3rd generation of my family working for Ford. A partial list of some of the vehicles I've had.. 64 Merc Comet 260 with a 2 spd auto, about 9 67/68 Mustangs, 67 Merc 1/2 ton that started out with a 240, and went through 3 289s before it gave up completely, current project is "Milo", a 68 F100 with a 360 (added 600 holley and Hedman headers). I'm working on a 390 GT for it. I really enjoy reading the digests, especially when the discussions are about "proper terminology". I spent 4 years as a technical trainer for Ford, my experiences taught me to use what ever terms get the point across. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 09:54:12 -0800 From: "O'Connor" Subject: FTE 61-79 - Mod Squad Link/Julie/Pete? Had the same liesure suit- I think there was only one style sold around the world. Tim 66F100 == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 09:29:33 -0600 From: "Michael Miller" Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: oil out the dipstick... > Interesting. My only experience with oil out the dipstick is with some of the Jeep's stepsiblings. Slant Sixes will do this if the PCV is clogged. Never had this problem with Fords (Obligatory Ford Truck content) or for that matter other MoPars. > > Mike Sealey > '75 F-150 (390/C6), '99 Windstar (taxicab) > and multiple non-FoMoCo vehicles... I checked the PCV valve and it's getting great suction from the vaccume line it's hooked up to. I'm going to check compression next to see if it might be a stuck valve, but it runs O.K. as it is so I doubt it. Engine looks like it sat and got all gummed up(oil filler hole) but I don't have the time right now to clean it as I'm sure the pan needs dropped and the sludge removed once I do. Mike Miller '69 F-100 stepside (300/C-4) (please buy me!) "In the Marines, it takes a college degree to break it and a high school diploma to fix it!" __________________________________________ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 07:40:01 -0800 From: "Hogan, Tom" Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - swaybarS We had one. A 2wd 76 crew cab. Had a sway bar up front. I think the sway bars were limited to F-250 and F-350s. My F-150 will have front and rear bars soon cause I stole er liberated a set from a F-250 at the jun--er-- auto recyclers. The truck was side-swiped or maybe T-boned at the rear wheel and bent one of the sway bar mounts. :0( Oh well. I'll either straighten the one I have or find another one. The front sway bar connects to the beam with a bracket the mounts under the coil spring. - -----Original Message----- From: Peters, Gary (G.R.) [mailto:gpeters3 visteon.com] Sent: Sunday, November 21, 1999 5:17 AM To: '61-79-list ford-trucks.com' Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - swaybarS I've never seen a ford I beam with a front sway bar from the factory. Do they make them? 4x4's have them and I'm sure the broncos with TTB must have them as an option but just never saw one on a 2wd? It's on the rear in this case because of anticipated additional top heavyness due to the camper but normally a rear only sway bar causes handling problems I'm told. Most applications have them on the front only or front and rear so there must be a good reason for this? In 4x4 circles it is not recommended to run on the highway with front disconnected for better articulation for instance. They recommned either no sway bars or disconnect the front at the off road site and reconnect before entering the highway. - -- Michigan, Pot Hole Jumping, 78 Bronco Loving, Gary http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.thewowfactor.com/bigbroncos/detail.cfm?detailid=167 - -- > Hi again! > Well, this REALLY is my lucky day! Upon checking more thoroughly > my recently aquired Ford trucks, the F-250 camper-special 2x4 has a > rear sway-bar!! Now, THAT got me thinking.......... > mmmmmmmmmm.....................MMMMMMMMMMMMM !! == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 08:16:16 -0800 (PST) From: canzus seanet.com Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: 9" At 08:19 AM 20:11:99 -0600, Danny Ling wrote: >Be carefull when searching wrecking yards. The Ford has another rear >axle that looks almost identicle to the 9" (I think it's the 8.8") It >too has a removable third member (center section) just like the 9" I >read in one of my Four Wheeler mags on how to distinguish them apart >visualy but I need to look for the issue in my stack to find it again. The 8.8 has a rear cover, the 8" is very similar to the 9", but there is a method of telling the two apart, tale a 9/16 socket with an extention with you, if you can get the socket on all the bolts *SQUARELY*, it's an 8", if not, its a 9". If you don't unnerstan this hint, e-mail me..... Steve & the Rockette 68 F100, 390cid, FMX 63 F100, 292cid, 3speed 72 Capri 2000, hers 73 Capri 2600,tube frame going in..... 73 MGB GT, Our Toy 94 SHO, SWMBO's 97 Contour, Mine == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 08:16:17 -0800 (PST) From: canzus seanet.com Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - A LIL MO' INFO......... At 07:13 PM 19:11:99 -0800, Bill Beyer wrote: >Ok...Ok... Ya sure ya betcha, I like Bill's format... FULL NAME: Steve Leitch, AKA: "You're the goddam genius" BIRTHPLACE:Whakatane, NZ HOMETOWN: Ocean Shores, WA CROUTONS OR BACON BITS: Bacon bits FAVORITE SALAD DRESSING: I don't do salads DO YOU DRINK? Yes DRINK WHAT? Beer, Beer, Beer and Coffee...did I mention Beer? HAVE HAD YOUR APPENDIX AND TONSILS REMOVED? Nope... SHAMPOO OR CONDITIONER: I got most of Bill's hair, I takes about 24 hours to dry if I tie it up right away. I don't use conditioner.... HAVE YOU EVER GONE SKINNY-DIPPING: An scare all the little fish?? HAVE YOU EVER BEEN CONVICTED OF A CRIME: Yep BEST ON-LINE FRIENDS: C'mon I'm not that pathetic! ONE PILLOW OR TWO: 2 PETS: Cat, that steals things. FAVORITE TYPES OF MUSIC: Anything but new or old country. Gotta be Rock 'n' Roll DREAM CAR: Too many to list.... TYPE OF CAR YOU DRIVE NOW: '68 F100, 390 2V Dual Exhaust, '97 Contour 2L, 5 Speed FAVORITE TOOTHPASTE: Crest FAVORITE FOOD: Vegemite 'n' Cheese sammiches... DO YOU GET ALONG WITH YOUR PARENT(S):Yep FAVORITE PLACE TO VISIT: Zekesville, Wa FAVORITE ICE CREAM: French Vanilla FAVORITE SOFT DRINK: Beer FAVORITE TYPE OF FAMILY GAME TO PLAY: Fastpitch softball WHAT IS YOUR BAD TIME OF DAY: The drive home... FAVORITE TIME OF YEAR: Dead of winter, lots of storms at the beach... ADIDAS, NIKE, OR REEBOK: Reebok FAVORITE PERFUME OR COLOGNE: You ever known a mechanic who wears perfume?? FAVORITE SUBJECT IN SCHOOL: Machine shop LEAST FAVORITE SUBJECT: Any other FAVORITE TV SHOW: TV? whats that? FAVORITE MOVIE OF ALL TIME: Bullit FAVORITE BOOK OF ALL TIME: Needful Things, Stephen King... FAVORITE SPORT TO WATCH: Hockey ANYTHING "DIFFERENT" ABOUT YOU: I enjoy cooking?? > >"If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, riddle them with bullets" > Yeah, what he said!! Steve & the Rockette 68 F100, 390cid, FMX 63 F100, 292cid, 3speed 72 Capri 2000, hers 73 Capri 2600,tube frame going in..... 73 MGB GT, Our Toy 94 SHO, SWMBO's 97 Contour, Mine == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 08:38:35 -0800 From: CLAUDE JONES Subject: FTE 61-79 - RE: How'd you get the red mud off your 66? Burt, I finally had to sand down the entire truck and paint it :o) LoL. Get this folks, I had been running my '66 around for about 5 years with just primer, and while there on Guam decided it was time to try some paint (do to red mud lol ). Checked out abunch of shop there and I mean there is a bunch, seeing how they average 30 wrecks a day on a 8 x 32 mile island! haha well they price everything out of this world there as Burt H. knows and I decided why not paint it by rattle can! Yep I said rattle can! You should have seen the look on the guy's face down at the Napa store when I bought a case of white and a case of Ford blue spray paint and told him I was painting my truck with it! haha Did the bed first, sanded it on saturday and painted it on sunday. Had to go back 2 weeks later to get a case of each again, had to wait for them to order more from the mainland haha, plus it gave me time to do a little putty work and priming on the front half. Anyway when done drove down to the store to show the guys as they had expressed an interest in seeing it when done, they couldn't believe how well it turned out! Heck! I was Impressed! haha Well it's still on and does look pretty good. I also painted the inside of the bed and complete frame with rust-o-lemum(is that right?) gloss black. All this because Guam's rainfall is like 100-150 inches a year and the humidaity(now I know that's wrong lol) is around 85-100 year round. Everything rusts very very fast. On a different note does anyone know were I could find the plastic piece that goes inside the ford f250 emblem on the front fenders. They say Camper Special or do I have to have them made up? C.Jones aka gizmo '66 F250 '70 Mustang == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 09:29:54 PST From: "Don Jones" Subject: FTE 61-79 - Bars Leaks If you used "ANY" "Bars leaks" in that radiator it >has clogged the heater core. If you ever want to win a sure bet, bet on a >clogged heater core after using bars leaks. You'll win every time (unless >it's your heater core):-) I just got finished changing a leaky frost plug that the PO had apparently "fixed" with Bars leaks. The stuff was about an inch deep in the bottom of the water jacket and completely plugged the coolant drain plugs. What a mess!!. i spent most of the afternoon flushing out the block. I hope i didnt just stir things up, but i guess i'll find out. The ironic part of it is that he probbably spent more on goop to dump into the rad than a new frost plug and a few minutes underneath would have taken.. One other PO "feature" i noticed while i was under there was t-case mounts made out of hockey pucks. I dont know how long they have been there, but they seem to be in good condition. Does anyone have an opinion on rust proofing?. I just crawled under with a spray gun and sprayed everything except the exhaust and brakes with light oil.(used refrigeration compressor oil) It drips all over and is really messy for quite a while. anyone use anything different? Don Jones 1970 f-250 4x4 ~fordzilla~ ______________________________________________________ == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 08:29:48 -0900 (AKST) From: secundus gci.net (mathew schumacher) Subject: FTE 61-79 - 390 CAMS FE Guys, I am looking at getting a new cam for my rebuilt 390. I would like something a little bit more powerful than a standard RV cam because I like to get into it, but I don't want to sacrifice to much idle. Something that sounds nice. :) Here are the cams that I have been looking at, tell me what you think: "http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.cranecams.com/master/apps/ford44.htm#3. PowerMax" and "http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.cranecams.com/master/apps/ford45.htm#9. Energizer" I plan on buying a new set of lifters and a set of push rods as well. I don't think I can afford to buy the adjustable FE rockers at the same time, but I will probably upgrade later on. Oh, also what sanderson headers do I need to buy for a 76 F-150 4x4? I don't want to do to much exhaust hacking, so I want shorties. Thanks schu == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 09:32:32 -0800 (PST) From: Bill Ballinger Subject: FTE 61-79 - 'Le Monstre' >This 428 disco motor fired up today under Good Ol' >Dave R.'s >supervision......he knew what was going on even if it >isn't an M >Block..... Congratulations on bringing to life of 'le monstre' I have now enmired myself in the "project." I have taken on my 390 of highly sentimental value and will be looking for emotional support and psyciatric advice. WAY TO GO!!! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 12:51:12 EST From: Bad4dFilly aol.com Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Yellow Tail Gates.... I once dated a guy who had an awesome orangey-yellow '78 D*dge and the tailgate was striped yellow and black like a road hazard sign or somethin. It was pretty cool lookin, very original LOL *~*~Lisa and Envy~*~* *~*~SIlly boys...truck are for GIRLS~*~ == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 18:02:35 +0100 From: Dennis Harris Nielsen Subject: FTE 61-79 - Ranchero not running too well... Hi all, Thanks to everyone who responded to my questions about the Ranchero. I've been working on it today, and there are a few details I would like some comments on. I was not aware at first, but apparently the car has not been running for 2 years. I could not get it to run properly, since I do not know how to adjust the ignigition timing and the housing was loose on the shaft. Does anyone have details on this procedure? Also, although I did get it to run for a short period, there ssems to be a lot of pressure in the cooling system; it hisses and splutters up the filler cap - I still suspect a blown top gasket. The gearbox is strange. When I first got it started, it moved backwards despite being in neutral, and it did not seem to engage in drive. Any ideas? Regarding restoration: The chassis is pretty rusty, and I need a new left door. Is it worth removing the body from the chassis and having the frame blasted and powder coated? Or should I just fix the rust in the body and leave the frame alone? Thanks, Dennis 74 Ranchero 302 == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 12:15:41 -0600 From: "Jason & Kathy Kendrick" Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 390 CAMS Matt, Both the 272 cams loog like they'd be able performers, along with being pretty streetable. Both will work with compression ratios that can be used on the street without having to buy octane boosters and/or racing fuel. Be advised you might need to get some matching springs to handle the added load and lift of the cam. In addition, you might want to replace your aluminum rocker shaft stands with cast iron versions that were available on both the 406 and 427 low riser. They'll hold your rocker shaft more firmly than the aluminum ones. good luck with your selection and keep us posted! Jason mathew schumacher wrote: > > FE Guys, > > I am looking at getting a new cam for my rebuilt 390. I would like > something a little bit more powerful than a standard RV cam because I > like to get into it, but I don't want to sacrifice to much idle. > Something that sounds nice. :) > > Thanks > > schu == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 13:48:26 -0500 From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)" Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Ranchero not running too well... Poor timing will cause it to over heat but if it's doing this while cold then you may be right about the blown gasket. The distrubutor should have a clamp which bolts to the block with one bolt. If this bolt is loose it will turn. If it's tight and it still turns you have a problem. If the shaft turns by hand more than a few degrees (under spring pressure) then you have a problem. It may have a sheared drive gear pin. Pull the passenger side, front spark plug and rotate the engine untill you feel pressure building in the cylinder (I usually use my thumb to block the hole) then look at the timing marks on the front damper and line them up at about 8 degrees before Top Dead Center. You can use a screw driver in the start relay or use a socket on the front damper bolt (make sure ignition is off) or a remote start switch if you happen to have one. I made one out of an extension cord, after market horn button and some allegator clips. Don't move the engine once that is done. Now take the cap off the dizzy and look at the rotor (plastic thing on the shaft) and notice if it is pointing where the plug wire to that cylinder would be if the cap were mounted. It should be close. If not the pin could be sheared, the timing chain could have jumped or someone simply was messing with it and left it out of position. If it's close you can static time it by loosening the clamp, turn the ignition on and rotate the dizzy counter counterclockwise untill the points close then clockwise untill they "just" begin to open. With key on you will see and hear the spark so can set it very accurately. If when you tighten the clamp the points are continuously arcing it is perfect but turn the key off right away so you don't burn the points. Before doing this step you should adjust the point gap, though, so you don't have to mess it up later. Gap it at about 0.0017-0.025" and it will get you going. The gap determines the dwell so is critical to good performance but to get it going this will suffice. V8 gap will be less than 4 or 6. As long as you have "A" gap and the points "do" close all the way at some point it will run. Disconnect the shift link at the transmission and manually determine where Park is. If this is a retrofit engine/tranny the linkage could be reversed otherwise it is probably low on fluid. Do not try to run this while standing in front of it untill you verify the shifter is actually doing what it's supposed to be doing. Some applications use a bell crank and reverse the lever direction. If you have the money, by all means do it right. The frame is the foundation of the whole truck after all :-) I'm sure I speak for everyone on this list when I say I would Love to be able to do that to all of mine :-) - -- Michigan, Pot Hole Jumping, 78 Bronco Loving, Gary http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.thewowfactor.com/bigbroncos/detail.cfm?detailid=167 - -- > I could not get it to run properly, since I do not know how > to adjust the > ignigition timing and the housing was loose on the shaft. > Does anyone have > details on this procedure? > The gearbox is strange. When I first got it started, it moved > backwards > despite > being in neutral, and it did not seem to engage in drive. Any ideas? > > Is it worth removing the body from the chassis and having the > frame blasted > and > powder coated? Or should I just fix the rust in the body and > leave the frame > alone? == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 13:54:45 -0500 From: William King Subject: FTE 61-79 - A LIL MO' INFO......... I'll jump in, but as usual I'm a bit late. My name's Bill King, I'm a 30 yo college professor in western Ohio and I've been on the list for almost 2 years (mostly as a lurker). I'm on digest mode, so most of the easy questions are already answered by the time I get to read them. I used to live in Massachusetts (Framingham and Lowell), where I had one of the best jobs ever; working in an auto- junkyard to pay for college. I loved being around all the cars, parts, tools, and operating heavy equipment (scooping up a car with a front-end loader is quite a hoot). I definitely fall into Tony Marino's description of a red-neck nerd. Sadly, I moved to Cincinnati for a long period of "non-hot-roded-ness" (called grad school), and now that I'm finally settled again I'm enjoying working on cars/trucks/ motorcycles again. I finally have a garage to work in!! My current rides are my pride and joy 1968 Torino GT fastback (429 4v, Toploader, etc) I built in highschool. My FTE content is my 68 F100 2wd, 360, 4 speed. The truck's pretty ratty looking (I use it mainly as daily transpo and hauling stuff), but I've added cloth bucket seats from a T*oyota MR2, a Toploader 4 speed, a 20 gallon Ch*vy gas tank, and front sway-bar. Nothing fancy, but it gets me around and hauled my Torino from Boston this summer. Can't ask for much more than that. Thanks to everyone on the list, b/c I've learned so much from all of you and had so many good laughs. I wish I could contribute more... Ohio Bill == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 12:26:32 -0800 From: "Mike Sealey" Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Strangest '72 F-350 4x4 dually I've ever seen! On Sun, 21 Nov 1999 01:47:35 Tony Marino wrote: >You know, I'm not one to do this, but Ya'll gotta see this!!! HAHAHAH > >http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200382050 > >Notice the differential is on the PASSENGER side!?!?! I didn't see any frame reinforcement. Think it's ever been offroad since its conversion? (Now that IS scary...) Mike Sealey '75 F-150 (390/C6), '99 Windstar (taxicab) and multiple non-FoMoCo vehicles... Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.angelfire.com == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 16:42:50 -0800 (PST) From: Daniel DiMartino Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Windshield Replacement tim: in the aircraft business we use a variety of tools for just this type of seal/windcscreen installations, the most simple being a modified screwdriver with the tip bent 90 degrees and maybe a "V" cut to guide the seal onto the glass. don't use them on my current platform but they weren't too complex. a little creative imagination and a welder and you could have a new form of income. ===== Daniel DiMartino 1968 F-250 soon to be a 4x4 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 20:30:31 EST From: SHill48337 aol.com Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - NO OIL PRESSURE In a message dated 11/21/99 1:06:36 AM Eastern Standard Time, us5zahns earthlink.net writes: this oil could be going (leaking back into the pan) or what could be plugged so that it doesn't get to the sending unit? I hooked up a mechanical gauge and no oil comes out the tubing either. If I remove the sending unit a little will drizzle out but not under pressure >> There are several things that this could be, if you follow this you will find the problem: 1. First check the oil pump relief valve, pay particular attention to the disk, make sure it moves freely and no trash between the disk and seat. You will have to remove the spring to do this. Next make sure the spring is not bent or broken and that all the coils look even. There is a high probability this is where your problem is. 2. Oil filters can come a part and restrict flow. (This a low probability of being the problem.). 3. There are 4 plugs inside the engine in the oil gallery that screw in, 2 in the front behind the timing chain, and 2 in aft valley section of the block where the left and right galleries are crossconnected. There are 3 more plugs but they are on the outside of the engine. If one of the inter plugs has vibrated out this could also be the cause. (This too is a high probability since the engine is new and the plugs may not have been installed correctly). Unless the block is cracked or broken it is one of the above. Good Luck Burt Hill Kennewick WA 1972 F-250 4x4 460 == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 08:24:26 -0800 From: "Jerry Godsey" Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - cougar list ? Sorry, that list is basically for cars from 67-73. However, they are starting a new list for the 74 and later crowd. I will check into it and get back to you. Blessings, Jerry Godsey - -----Original Message----- From: Serian To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com Date: Friday, November 19, 1999 4:30 PM Subject: FTE 61-79 - cougar list ? >> The Cougar list of which I am still a part (they let me stay even though I >> traded my Cougar for my Econoline!), > >Is a Montego close enough to a Cougar to sign up ? ;-) >from at least '73 - '76, they are practically the same car >with different emblems and options packages. > > > >== FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 22:03:15 EST From: FORDTRKNUT aol.com Subject: FTE 61-79 - Found Dana 60 5 lug!! Hey guys & gals!!! I found a Dana 60 rear from a 1970-1972 F-100 4x4. It not a full floter rear, its a semi floater as they call it. I did not buy it, but thought someone on the list could use it. I went to "Harrys U-Pull-It" in West Hazelton, PA. I do not have the phone number there, but they are open 7 days a week. Usually they open at 8:00am and close at 4:00pm. Juts call 411 for info on the phone number. I picked up a Dana 44 front axel out of a 1979 F-250 for $40.00 (plus $12.00 for core charges on the rotors). They have great prices, and a real neat & organized yard. If you need any information...just ask!!! Wayne Grabley == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 21:00:23 -0600 From: "Bob & Becky Elliott" Subject: FTE 61-79 - A LIL MO' INFO My names is Bob Elliott and at the present my wife & I live in the Panhandle of Olkhoma. When we moved here from Northern Wis, they told me we lived in the middle of the best fishing area. 300 miles to any of it. I started out driving a 1947 C**Y 1 ton panel, changed to a 48 1 ton Dodge, then went to a 63 Fairlane 500 when I got home from Vietnam. I've worked for phone Companys both in Wis & here in Olk. I install & maintain multiline business systems in schools, banks,etc. We've been married 33 years, have 2 kids. Son is 21 & in the 82nd Airborne at Ft. Bragg, NC. Daughter is married and lives down by Dallas, Tx. so we don't get to see our 18 mo Grandson to often. I have a 79 F250 crewcab short bed for pulling the camper, a 79 F150 4X4 supercab waiting to be fixed up as a Med Duty work truck. 3/4 T axles, 5sp, 3sp& detached 205 with at least to winches. (I'm getting to old to be using a come a long to load truck carriers).Also have a 76 4X2 F250, 67 4X2 250, 63 F700, & 72 F500 plus a few other misc. Lucklily I have friends with farms with spare room. Hobbies/projects- Photography, camping, boating, shooting, and house remodeling. Bob == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 22:45:40 EST From: IanBoss69 aol.com Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - A LIL MO' INFO..Tony. accually tony you sent that at 4:14 not 4:00 Ian 79 F250 4x4 4spd 351M True Blue Ford Blue == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 22:55:55 EST From: IanBoss69 aol.com Subject: FTE 61-79 - "fire" truck alright, im on my break at work listening to my radio in the parking lot and my buddy turns to me and says " I smell something burning" I told him he was crazy then noticed the grey smoke coming from my heater vents in the dash... this is about the time i turned the radio off and jerked it out of the dash...still smokin.....i turn the key off and procede to very calmly take apart the dash ( Calmly HA yeah right ) the smoke stops by the time i get it apart,,,,so we turn the key back on,,,see smoke within 30 seconds coming from the ignition switch area,,,,i reached and grabbed the taped wired bundle to move it for a better view,,,whatta know the tape melts to my fingers,,,guess it wasnt the ignition switch, huh? so we turn it off again, slice the tape open about a foot exposing the some trillion wires inside,,,,,turn the truck back on and feel the wires,,,we both got burnt this time,,,how stupid are we? anyways, a big pink and gray wire was getting really hot when the key was on,,,,i have yet to find out what this wire goes to,,,,,we messed around for another 15 minutes,,then disconnected the battery and went back to work,,came out some 4 hours later,,,,started the truck, drove it home with no dash board and holding on to the wire to make sure it didnt get hot again,,,,it didnt,,,,,,does my truck hate me and want a new owner or what???? any ideas? Ian 79 F250 4x4 4spd 351M (One Color--white) True Blue Ford Blue == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 23:10:48 -0500 From: Tony Marino Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - "fire" truck Your truck hates you, you must give it to me immediately! 8-) Seriously though-- I had this same problem with a short in my ignition switch, and yes, just like yourself didn't listen to my momma when she taught me what "hot" meant, and immediatly reached under the dash to unplug the "smoking" mass of plastic polymer goo. To this day, that bundle of wires still has my fingerprints melted into the insulation of the wires.. 8-) Tony tony greenman-systems.com At 10:55 PM 11/21/99 -0500, you wrote: >alright, im on my break at work listening to my radio in the parking lot and >my buddy turns to me and says " I smell something burning" I told him he was >crazy then noticed the grey smoke coming from my heater vents in the dash... >this is about the time i turned the radio off and jerked it out of the >dash...still smokin.....i turn the key off and procede to very calmly take >apart the dash ( Calmly HA yeah right ) the smoke stops by the time i get it >apart,,,,so we turn the key back on,,,see smoke within 30 seconds coming from >the ignition switch area,,,,i reached and grabbed the taped wired bundle to >move it for a better view,,,whatta know the tape melts to my fingers,,,guess >it wasnt the ignition switch, huh? so we turn it off again, slice the tape >open about a foot exposing the some trillion wires inside,,,,,turn the truck >back on and feel the wires,,,we both got burnt this time,,,how stupid are we? > anyways, a big pink and gray wire was getting really hot when the key was >on,,,,i have yet to find out what this wire goes to,,,,,we messed around for >another 15 minutes,,then disconnected the battery and went back to work,,came >out some 4 hours later,,,,started the truck, drove it home with no dash board >and holding on to the wire to make sure it didnt get hot again,,,,it >didnt,,,,,,does my truck hate me and want a new owner or what???? any ideas? > >Ian >79 F250 4x4 4spd 351M (One Color--white) >True Blue Ford Blue >== FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 23:42:55 EST From: Spike188 aol.com Subject: FTE 61-79 - Biography I've enjoyed reading the biographies. Here's mine, its all accurate...as far as you know. My name's Rob Merrifield, 35 yrs old, married, two kids (boy 5 and girl 2) one yellow lab, and a 67 F100. Nickname is Spike, (due to an unfortunate hairstyle choice many years ago.) I'm a Police Officer and have been been for about 12 years. Live in Chico California which is located about an hour and a half north of Sacramento, in the foothills near the end of the valley. Hot in the summer, mild in the winter. I've always wanted an old pickup like the one my dad had for years when I was a kid. Several months ago, I found the one I was looking for. Its a shortbed styleside, F100 custom cab, with a 352 and "springtime yellow" paint. Having a great time getting it fixed up. Trying to keep it all looking as stock as possible. I'm lousy with tools, (I can barely fix a sandwich) but I'm getting there. When I got her, she had a rusted out bed, so I bought a 70 for parts and swapped the bed from it to the 67. Got it repainted recently. Looks great. Like all old Ford owners, I'm riding tall and proud in the saddle, feeling sorry for all the poor folks who dont have one. Enjoy reading the list and I have learned alot from it. Glad to see some of the folks getting together to show off their rides. Great idea with the biographies. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 00:06:40 EST From: SevnD2 aol.com Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Windshield install - how difficult? In a message dated 11/19/1999 1:08:00 PM Eastern Standard Time, haring fedora.net writes: this personally, please let me know honestly how difficut it was. I could imagine it either way. I have helped my Dad do some of these and I can tell you it is so easy to break one ! You need a new rubber gasket first , but if you have to try it with the old one get some silicone spray lubricant and soak the gasket completely with it . Should spray a new gasket with the silicone also . I was only 15 when I did this so bear with me . I remember we put the gasket around the windshield ( without the locking bead installed if it is that type ) and tied twine around the outside of the gasket where it sits in the windshield frame ( loosely ).You need to leave a tail hanging out to pull from the inside of the vehicle . We then sat the bottom of the windshield with gasket into the bottom of the window frame and let it lay back on the opening making sure to have it even on both sides . This is where you can break the windshield . You have to tap on the windshield with an open palm ( gently ) until you get some movement down into the opening . It takes someone with experience showing how this is done before you really can understand this procedure . When you get some of the gasket showing to be coming into position on the inside then you need to start pulling on the string to get the gasket lip around the opening lip . All of this is kind of touch and go until you have everything even . Dont even try to push one end in while the other end isn't moving . I have seen it done enough to know these windshields will break under very little stress ! Keep pulling the string and tapping evenly until you have a good flush look on the outside . If you have the beadlock type of gasket then you will need an installation tool which isn't very expensive , but here again I think it will be hard to tell you without showing how to put the lock into place . Let me know which kind you have and we can go from there . can't help but think that I'd rather spend $50 on Christmas gifts than on window installation, but I know it's probably much easier letting the shop do it >> I would really recommend you getting someone with some experience help you install it . I know for a fact you can get one of these glass installers to do one for you on the side . Just use some bartering or whatever might be of value to him or her . My dad would in a second for a favor and a six pack ! :-) I would feel bad to know I misled you about the procedures and you broke your windshield . It has been 20 years since I saw one of these up close , so I may have forgotten something ! Hope this helps . Rollie H. Hunt King,N.C. 1976 F100 Explorer , 391FT(428ci) == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 23:56:32 -0600 From: Brett L Habben Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: A LIL MO' INFO Howdy, Somewhat new to the list, I don't exactly know when to pipe in or shut up. My name is Brett Habben, and I'm divorced 39 yr old former Minnesota farmboy turned Texas Office of the Attorney General system analyst. Well, there was alot of territory covered in between, "high.... To access the rest of this feature you must be a logged in Registered User Of Ford Truck Enthusiasts
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