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61-79-list-digest Wednesday, November 10 1999 Volume 03 : Number 412



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Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1961-1979 Trucks and Vans
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In this issue:

RE: FTE 61-79 - Torque, junk and SWMBO's
Re: FTE 61-79 - Fuel tank switch
FTE 61-79 - Re: 4x4 oil pan needed 351m
RE: FTE 61-79 - 352 Probs
FTE 61-79 - RE: OVER HEATING
Re: FTE 61-79 - 352 Probs
FTE 61-79 - Re: White room, rebuilding stuff
RE: FTE 61-79 - Re: White room, rebuilding stuff
Re: Re: FTE 61-79 - Torque
FTE 61-79 - Driving Rules
RE: FTE 61-79 - RE: OVER HEATING
RE: FTE 61-79 - RE: OVER HEATING
FTE 61-79 - Rules for dallas
RE: Re: FTE 61-79 - Torque
RE: Re: FTE 61-79 - Torque
FTE 61-79 - Lubricants!! and Manuals
RE: Re: FTE 61-79 - Torque
FTE 61-79 - 5.0L, 4.6L swap
RE: Re: FTE 61-79 - Torque
RE: FTE 61-79 - Lubricants!! and Manuals
Re: FTE 61-79 - Lubricants!! and Manuals
RE: FTE 61-79 - Lubricants!! and Manuals
RE: FTE 61-79 - 5.0L, 4.6L swap
RE: Re: FTE 61-79 - Torque
RE: FTE 61-79 - Lubricants!! and Manuals
RE: Re: FTE 61-79 - Torque
RE: FTE 61-79 - Lubricants!! and Manuals
Re: FTE 61-79 - Lubricants!! and Manuals
FTE 61-79 - remove
FTE 61-79 - '68 Bendix Power Steering Gear
FTE 61-79 - Convert To Electronic Ignition
Re: FTE 61-79 - Lubricants!! and Manuals
Re: FTE 61-79 - Convert To Electronic Ignition
RE: FTE 61-79 - Convert To Electronic Ignition
RE: Re: FTE 61-79 - Torque
Re: FTE 61-79 - Lubricants!! and Manuals
RE: FTE 61-79 - Lubricants!! and Manuals
RE: FTE 61-79 - Lubricants!! and Manuals
RE: FTE 61-79 - Lubricants!! and Manuals
FTE 61-79 - Leaks & Lubricants
Re: FTE 61-79 - 352 Probs
Re: FTE 61-79 - M blocks back from the dead
Re: FTE 61-79 - M blocks back from the dead
FTE 61-79 - Unibody sighting
FTE 61-79 - Re: 2wd & 4wd Steering Columns
Re: FTE 61-79 - Unibody sighting
Re: FTE 61-79 - Torque
FTE 61-79 - That clutch fork again
Re: FTE 61-79 - Lubricants!! and Manuals
Re: FTE 61-79 - Unibody sighting
Re: FTE 61-79 - Lubricants!! and Manuals
Re: FTE 61-79 - That clutch fork again

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Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 07:24:19 -0500
From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Torque, junk and SWMBO's

I have to admit that I have much stuff out there that has a "potential" use
but if I am a realist about it I also have to admit that most of it will
"never" be used by me so is essentially "unessential". The shop is also all
mine and is not shared with my family other than for storing some of their
junk.....er, possesions :-)

My wife, OTOH has a great deal of stuff that cost more than my stuff all put
together that there was never any intention of having a function for except
for looks. It collects dust in the house, adds to the burden of cleaning,
interferes with access to rooms (stuff hanging on door knobs (one of my pet
peeves)) and in the kitchen, nothing ever goes back in the same spot twice
in a row so I always have to look for stuff. Furniture is never arranged
according to "needs" but according to "looks" and traffic patterns are never
taken into account :-)

In my shop tools always go back in the same drawer or shelf or cabinet and
if it gets full I rearrange stuff so it has a home or make more shelves or
cabinets or buy another tool box. We have cooking pans that are so beat up
they can hardly be used taking up space and redundant oodles of this kind of
stuff.........If I were in charge of this aspect of our lives there would be
exactly one of each kind of pan and they would be washed between uses and
food in them would be stored in storage tubs rather than the pans so they
were always available and they would always be in the same place even if it
meant kicking out one of the kids for more room........well, maybe not
but.......:-) I would also arrange the kitchen with more cabinets, even it
it looked tacky or they were inconvenient for a 4'-11" person to access.
Every wall would be a solid sheet of cupboards........course that isn't very
attractive and is way too practical for most SWMBO's.

Before I get my head chopped off, I have always said I should never have
gotten married, I'm not cut out for dealing with the "other" sex on a mental
plane. I'm not saying it's their fault either, just not cut out for it for
what ever reason :-(

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78 Bronco Loving, Gary
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> I have a problem with this, I want you to take a look around your
> home, looking for things that SWMBO has collected, you'll know
> the stuff when you see it, that "frilly you have no use for stuff".
> Point this collection of crap out, ask her to get rid of it,
> if she refuses,
> ask why you have to get rid of the truck.

> Heres my theory;
>
> Women collect stuff thats nice to look at but has no usefull purpose.
> Men collect stuff they can use.
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Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 06:50:22 -0600
From: "Brett Yerks"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Fuel tank switch

I called a couple parts stores, Napa and Bumper to Bumper. Both of them had
the switch, you just need to know how many ports there are and if its
electric or manual.

Brett
76 F250 4x4
78 F250 4x4 Supercab


>Need one for my truck too, mine bleeds from my rear tank to the front one
>seen the valve on the 73-79 ford truck site think it was $39 also have seen
>them in the J. C. Whitney catalog hope this helps.
> Jeff
>
>73 F-150 (pro-street) 460
>79 F-150 Lariat 460
>88 Mustang (disabled) 302


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Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 08:02:35 -0500
From: "Brent Cole"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: 4x4 oil pan needed 351m

From: Brent Cole FEDERAL-MOGUL on 11/09/99 08:02 AM


To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
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Subject: Re: 4x4 oil pan needed 351m

I have a pan and dipstick and I am willing to trade, sell or whatever. Email me
and we will work something out. It's a bit rusty, its been laying out in the
back yard but no dents. Take it to NAPA have it blasted and it will look like
new.

Brent



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Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 08:24:59 -0500
From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - 352 Probs

This could be a mis-adjusted float or timing chain jumped or insufficient
fuel (bad pump, clogged filter, wrong jets, hole in inlet side of fuel line
etc..) Ignition timing could also do it so make sure the vac works and
rotor moves freely against spring pressure in the dizzy etc.. Use a timing
light and check the timing at 2500 rpm or so with steady throttle but make
sure you are out of the way of fan blades etc. and don't run it too long at
that rpm for safety reasons. Blades come off occasionally and you don't
want to be there when it happens :-(

The popping and crackling is due to improper timeing FOR THE MIXTURE so it
could be mixture OR timing or even both. One way to determine if the timing
has jumped is to check the ignition timing but this is only valid if it has
not been changed since the problem occured. The cam timing controls the
dizzy timing since they are connected by gears so if the cam slips back one
tooth the dizzy should be off 10-15 degrees too. (depending on tooth count
of course)

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78 Bronco Loving, Gary
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> that but then it worked for a little whiel then it died then
> after about 2
> weeks (i was very busy) i ame back started it and it ran but
> it wouldnt wrap
> out like it used to it would pop and crakle trying to get up
> to rpms
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Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 07:30:31 -0600
From: "Jeffery Hansen"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - RE: OVER HEATING

Not to doubt or insult anyones mechanical welding skills. Gages are fine -
but does the engine feel hot? 6-10 seconds is really fast - even at that -
the inside temp may well be that. Are you absolutely sure you got the head
gaskets right side up? I know when I was rebuilding my 69 429 the machinst
said "numbers up and forward - which was fine for one - but numbers up on
the other put the front towards the rear, with numbers towards the front -
they were down. Took taking them to him for direct intruction for me to be
sure - numbers up and forward on one side - numbers front and down on the
other - coated with light coat silver paint for best seal.
Jeffery A. Hansen, HMC(SW/AW/FMF) USN
Independent Duty Hospital Corpsman
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Date: Tue, 09 Nov 1999 07:38:24 -0600
From: "Jason & Kathy Kendrick"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 352 Probs

I had a mid to upper rpm pop & sneeze on my '70 F100. A mechanic told
me to check the timing with a timing light at about 3000 rpm. When I did
this, my timing mark was bouncing all over the place! I tore the timing
cover off and like the mechanic said, there was a very worn out chain in
there! I put a new one on, and my pop and sneeze symptoms were gone.
On another 390, there were no symptoms of a loose chain, and when it
let go at 4000 rpm, it split the camshaft in two!

Jason

Peters, Gary (G.R.) wrote:

>
> The popping and crackling is due to improper timeing FOR THE MIXTURE so it
> could be mixture OR timing or even both. t
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Date: Tue, 09 Nov 1999 08:38:10 -0500
From: Steve Schaefer
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: White room, rebuilding stuff

>
>
> BTW, if anyone is thinking about building a work shop/storage
> building.........calculate what you think you need, double it, then
> multiply
> by something to the power of..........to get the actual size you need or
> do
> as my wife suggests.......GET RID OF SOME OF YOUR JUNK!! :-)

Like that is going to happen any time soon:>) I make a scrap run at least 3 times a year, usually about
10000# of scrap steel. Usually I clean out in order to bring something else home. The last scrap run
resulted in me bring home a 76 F-350 Crewcab (FTE content). Let see, that brings the grand total to 7
vehicles (all Fords).I can atleast say that only 1 vehicle sits outside (I knew I should have installed
those 10' doors). Time for another addition:>)

Steve S.
76 F-350 Crewcab (finally painted)
77 F-250 Supercab (yellow/purple)
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Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 10:20:33 -0500
From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Re: White room, rebuilding stuff

I designed mine to house a school bus so I have 11' doors, 12x11, two of
them side by side with a pedestrian door in between. The whole 30' wall is
doors with posts in between :-)

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78 Bronco Loving, Gary
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> vehicles (all Fords).I can atleast say that only 1 vehicle
> sits outside (I knew I should have installed
> those 10' doors). Time for another addition:>)
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Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 09:51:57 -0600
From: "Jeffery Hansen"
Subject: Re: Re: FTE 61-79 - Torque

"I have a problem with this, I want you to take a look around your home,
looking for things that SWMBO has collected"

Hear ye Hear ye - THANK YOU VERY MUCH! I'm also forwarding this to SWMBO.
Every time I point out all the new plants - all the new cutsie little
dollies, all the frivolous B! S! hanging on the walls - I get "I've had that
for years! You're just working at Menards, on your *&%*&% truck, or
deployed somewhere off saving the world to much and never noticed" Or "It
only cost me a dollar" or "It only cost me $5 dollars" Says sell them both
and fork out the $500/month on a new one like her 98 Windstar - "It's
reliable"
I'm still in that "well, if I fix just this one more thing" mode - but it's
been a $6000 summer - and it's just sitting there draining the battery
again - oh yeah - guess I better unhook it today - thanks for reminding me.
Plus - the 86 Turbo T-Bird - 216,000+ original miles is on the verge of
terminal mechaincal repair (has only needed an altenator, starter, timing
belt, and clutch since buying for $1900 at 90,000 in '94) - was in the rear
this past friday - gawd those carrier bearings are S L O P P Y! - God I love
both my Henry's.
Jeffery A. Hansen, HMC(SW/AW/FMF) USN
Independent Duty Hospital Corpsman
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Date: Tue, 09 Nov 1999 10:38:03 CST
From: "gene baker"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Driving Rules

Thought everyone might enjoy this.
The city can be changed to reflect your hometown.

The 19 Cardinal Rules Of Driving In Dallas:

1. A right lane construction closure is just a game to see how many
people can cut in line by passing you on the right as you sit in the
left lane waiting for the same jerks to squeeze their way back in before
hitting construction barrels. Bonus points are awarded for getting out of
your car
and moving the barrels.

2. Turn signals provide clues as to your next move in the road battle so
never use them.

3. Under no circumstances should you leave a safe distance between your
car and the car in front of you no matter how fast you're going.
If you do, the space will be filled in by somebody else putting you
in an even more dangerous situation.

4. The faster you drive through a red light, the less your chances of
getting hit.

5. The car with the most extensive body work automatically has the right
of way. (Remember no fault insurance. He might not have as much to lose as
you do.)

6. Braking is to be done as hard and late as possible to insure that
your anti lock braking system kicks in to give
you a nice relaxing foot massage as the brake pedal pulsates.

7. Construction signs are carefully positioned to tell you about road
closures immediately after you pass the last opportunity to exit,but
just before the traffic begins to back up.

8. The electronic traffic warning system signs are not there to provide
useful information, but just to tell time and make Dallas look
progressive.

9. Never pass on the left when you can pass on the right.
It's a good way to scare people entering the highway.
Passing on the shoulder is encouraged. That's why they're paved.

10. Speed limits are arbitrary figures to make Texas look as if it
conforms with other state policies; these are intended only as
suggestions and are actually unenforceable.

11. Just because you're in the left lane and have no room to speedup or
move over doesn't mean that a driver on 635, flashing his high beams
behind you, doesn't think he can go faster in your spot.

12. Please remember that there is no such thing as a shortcut during
rush hour traffic on I-35, I 635 (LBJ) or 75 Central Expressway.

13. Always slow down and rubberneck when you see an accident or even a
person changing a tire.
If you're lucky, you may see the unlucky breakdown victim get mugged.

14. Learn to swerve abruptly.
Dallas is the home of very high speed slalom driving thanks to
Texas DOT, who put potholes in key locations to test drivers' reflexes
and keep them on their toes.
Parts of truck tires are left on new highways
where potholes haven't yet been established.

15. It is considered correct in Dallas to honk your
horn at cars that don't move the instant the light changes.
Our city is founded upon such traditions.

16. Seeking eye contact with another driver automatically revokes your
right of way.

17. Giving the finger may invite armed retaliation.
Be sure that your rifle is on the gun rack in the rear window
and visible rather than lying on the seat, and in range to pick up easily.

18. When in doubt, remember that all unmarked exits lead to Oklahoma.

19. You don't have to wait for an exit to get off a
freeway, just follow the ruts in the grass to the frontage road like
everyone else. This is how Dallas residents notify the Texas DOT
where exits should have been built.






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Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 09:00:50 -0800
From: "Hogan, Tom"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - RE: OVER HEATING

Here's a troubleshooting idea. With the engine cold (first thing in the
morning maybe) turn the key to the run position. Don't start the motor. See
if the temp guage goes to hot. If it does with the motor not running or hot
then it is probably the sending unit or a short in the wiring to the guage.

Tom H

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From: Jeffery Hansen [mailto:billybobjoehansen hotmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 1999 5:31 AM
To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - RE: OVER HEATING


Not to doubt or insult anyones mechanical welding skills. Gages are fine -
but does the engine feel hot? 6-10 seconds is really fast - even at that -
the inside temp may well be that. Are you absolutely sure you got the head
gaskets right side up? I know when I was rebuilding my 69 429 the machinst
said "numbers up and forward - which was fine for one - but numbers up on
the other put the front towards the rear, with numbers towards the front -
they were down. Took taking them to him for direct intruction for me to be
sure - numbers up and forward on one side - numbers front and down on the
other - coated with light coat silver paint for best seal.
Jeffery A. Hansen, HMC(SW/AW/FMF) USN
Independent Duty Hospital Corpsman
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Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 12:28:25 -0500
From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - RE: OVER HEATING

My pickup used to peg all the gauges when I turned the key on but it never
overheated.....I don't understand your point? Just kidding of course :-)
After removing the dash several times to look for the problem it went
away??? :-)

The idio......I mean previous owner of my bronco put in after market
mechanical gauges because the oil pressure and temp gauges didn't work
correctly. They fluctuated all over the place. I played with the sender
wires and connections for a while, here and there and eventually they both
began to work which is a good thing because he failed to hook up the lights
to the gauges and I was just plain too lazy to do it myself so I couldn't
tell what the engine was doing.

Fortunately I have a well trained sense of partial hearing so relied upon
that to prompt me to action if something should go wrong.....:-)

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78 Bronco Loving, Gary
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> Here's a troubleshooting idea. With the engine cold (first
> thing in the
> morning maybe) turn the key to the run position. Don't start
> the motor. See
> if the temp guage goes to hot. If it does with the motor not
> running or hot
> then it is probably the sending unit or a short in the wiring
> to the guage.
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Date: Tue, 09 Nov 1999 11:29:17 -0600
From: Larry Schmiedekamp
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Rules for dallas

Gene

I love it...

I live about 250 miles west of Dallas.. Went there for a meeting several years
ago when we still had rain. It was hailing when I came into dallas driving my
ford truck... couldn't believe my eyes. Cars where stopped under the over
passes
in all lanes and people where outside their cars talking and watching the
hail.

I could just see Old Smokey and the Bandit blowing through those cars. At
least
I was keeping an eye in the rear view. Couldn't hear because of the hail.

Later

Larry


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Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 12:37:30 -0500
From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)"
Subject: RE: Re: FTE 61-79 - Torque

That reminds me, I will have to do some major surgery on my 94 bird pretty
soon. The left inner axle seal is leaking and the axle is a tad loose there
too so........:-( I'll get to 'er soon as I get the cash for a True Trac to
put in while I have it apart :-) Then there's that sick, weak little 3.8 up
front and that 460 sitting on the barn floor so lonesome.........:-)

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78 Bronco Loving, Gary
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> this past friday - gawd those carrier bearings are S L O P P
> Y! - God I love
> both my Henry's.
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Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 11:45:55 -0600
From: "William S. Hart"
Subject: RE: Re: FTE 61-79 - Torque

> Then there's that sick, weak
> little 3.8 up
> front and that 460 sitting on the barn floor so lonesome.........:-)
>

I wanna see that Gary ... I want to see you take the FI system and drop that
on a 460 and stuff the whole thing in the engine bay of your bird ... that
would crack me up ... :) (yes I realize you'd have to upgrade the FI a bit
to feed the extra 2 cyls)

Just my $.02
wish

96 Mustang GT 5spd 4.6L
73ish 1/2ton 4x4 6.4L
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Date: Tue, 09 Nov 1999 10:14:32 PST
From: "James Stepke"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Lubricants!! and Manuals

Hi Everyone!
Since i just purchased my truck i believe it is time to change all of the
fluids. I wanted to know if anyone has any suggestions on what type or
brand of lubricants to use!! Is synthetic worht the money in an old truck??
Also, what is the best manual to have. I used to own a Haynes and a
Chilton and i liked the haynes better. Any suggestions?
Thanks in advance
James
79 F150 4x4 400m Gear Vendors O/D :) (thanks guys)
91 Wrangler 5 spd 4.0L !!!FOR SALE!!!

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Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 13:18:57 -0500
From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)"
Subject: RE: Re: FTE 61-79 - Torque

They put 'em in Pintos.......:-)

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78 Bronco Loving, Gary
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> > Then there's that sick, weak
> > little 3.8 up
> > front and that 460 sitting on the barn floor so lonesome.........:-)
> >
>
> I wanna see that Gary ... I want to see you take the FI
> system and drop that
> on a 460 and stuff the whole thing in the engine bay of your
> bird ... that
> would crack me up ... :) (yes I realize you'd have to
> upgrade the FI a bit
> to feed the extra 2 cyls)
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Date: Tue, 09 Nov 1999 10:24:52 PST
From: "Mark Mcknight"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 5.0L, 4.6L swap

OOPS!!! :o) Okay.... I got a fresh 4.6L triton motor from a 99 F-150, that
was cracked up. :o) YAY!! anyways, I need to know if the tranny in the 85'
will bolt up the same, the guy said it would, but I don't really want to
screw around trying to get the thing bolted up, when It just won't go. The
best part is, Its got headers and a turbo =) Fun Fun, gonna blow the Ma*da
away ;o) Anyways thanks, any help is greatly apreciated!!

You guys are a huge help!

Mark
85 Ford F-150 Explorer (Posi)
78 Ford F-100 Custom, (Tubbed)

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Date: Tue, 09 Nov 1999 10:35:40 PST
From: "Mark Mcknight"
Subject: RE: Re: FTE 61-79 - Torque

I saw a pinto with a 460, it was lifted 8 inches and it had 35" boggers on
it... That would have kicked complete and total butt!!! I want one!!
>
>They put 'em in Pintos.......:-)
>
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>Michigan, Pot Hole Jumping,
>78 Bronco Loving, Gary
>http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.thewowfactor.com/bigbroncos/detail.cfm?detailid=167
>--
>
> > > Then there's that sick, weak
> > > little 3.8 up
> > > front and that 460 sitting on the barn floor so lonesome......

Mark
85 F-150 Explorer (Posi)
78 F-100 custom (tUBBED)

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Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 13:49:50 -0500
From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Lubricants!! and Manuals

By all means put Mobil 1 gear lube in all the boxes but synthetic in the
engine may leak out faster than you want if there are any leaks already.
Virtually any good oil will work if you keep it changed and unless you are
racing or living in death valley stay away from the heavy stuff. Stick to
5w30 or 10w30 in most applications and change every 3-5k miles. I also
rotate my tires while I have it up for the oil changes.

Ford Service manual is best but Petersons or Mitchells or Motors if they
still exist are good ones. Chiltons and Haynes are not very helpful unless
you want torque specs and then you have to dig them out of the text instead
of the nice charts the Motors manual used to have.

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> Hi Everyone!
> Since i just purchased my truck i believe it is time to
> change all of the
> fluids. I wanted to know if anyone has any suggestions on
> what type or
> brand of lubricants to use!! Is synthetic worht the money in
> an old truck??

> Also, what is the best manual to have. I used to own a
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Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 13:52:27 EST
From: SHill48337 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Lubricants!! and Manuals

In a message dated 11/9/1999 10:17:19 AM Pacific Standard Time,
jstepke hotmail.com writes:


Also, what is the best manual to have. I used to own a Haynes and a
Chilton and i liked the haynes better. Any suggestions?
Thanks in advance
James >>

Putting synthetic oil in you gear boxes is a very good idea. They will last
longer and your mileage goes up a little (can not lose). As for the engine
if does not burn oil use synthetic. Here you have to weigh the advantages
against the disadvantages if it uses a little oil. The advantage is longer
lasting battery and starter (good thing with cold weather coming on), better
mileage, less wear, and longer intervals between changes. The disadvantage
is the cost per quart. Mobile-1 is readily available at something less than
$4.00. My first though would be, use regular 10W-40 and see how if performs
then make the decision. Sounds like you know synthetics, if you go that
route use a light weight and you will get all of the advantages. If you have
a hard time finding synthetic gear oil, look in your phone book for Ams/Oil
products. Or the internet at http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.amsoil.com.

As for the manuals I prefer the Haynes over Chiltons, but nether one of them
is very good when it comes to details (they both say things like remove
engine and transmission, then simply unbolt and replace the whosit (that's
not help). As a result I have both, and a few shop manuals that I have
picked up over the years. Have fun use the list.
Burt Hill Kennewick WA 1972 F-250 4x4 460
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Date: Tue, 09 Nov 1999 11:10:39 PST
From: "James Stepke"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Lubricants!! and Manuals

Where can i get these manuals?? Are they still made??
Thanks for the Help
James
79 F150 4x4 400m Gear Vendors O/D :)
91 Wrangler 4.0L 5spd !!!FOR SALE!!!

"Ford Service manual is best but Petersons or Mitchells or Motors if they
still exist are good ones. Chiltons and Haynes are not very helpful unless
you want torque specs and then you have to dig them out of the text instead
of the nice charts the Motors manual used to have."

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Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 13:12:50 -0600
From: "William S. Hart"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - 5.0L, 4.6L swap

> OOPS!!! :o) Okay.... I got a fresh 4.6L triton motor from a 99
> F-150, that
> was cracked up. :o) YAY!! anyways, I need to know if the tranny
> in the 85'
> will bolt up the same, the guy said it would, but I don't really want to
> screw around trying to get the thing bolted up, when It just
> won't go.

Nope, sorry man, different bolt patterns :( Lakewood makes a bellhousing
for them that MAY work, though it may not too ... if it was that easy I'd
have a T5 sitting in my car no questions asked.

> best part is, Its got headers and a turbo =) Fun Fun, gonna blow
> the Ma*da
> away ;o) Anyways thanks, any help is greatly apreciated!!
>


A turbo 4.6 99 F150 ??? Didn't know they were even making kits for that ...
huh... weird.

Just my $.02
wish

96 Mustang GT 5spd 4.6L
73ish 1/2ton 4x4 6.4L
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Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 13:13:37 -0600
From: "William S. Hart"
Subject: RE: Re: FTE 61-79 - Torque

Sorry, my point wasn't the 460 in the bird, I know that's easy enough, my
point was you playing with fuelinjection and something other than a C6 auto.


> They put 'em in Pintos.......:-)
>
>
> > > Then there's that sick, weak
> > > little 3.8 up
> > > front and that 460 sitting on the barn floor so lonesome.........:-)
> > >
> >
> > I wanna see that Gary ... I want to see you take the FI
> > system and drop that
> > on a 460 and stuff the whole thing in the engine bay of your
> > bird ... that
> > would crack me up ... :) (yes I realize you'd have to
> > upgrade the FI a bit
> > to feed the extra 2 cyls)
>

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Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 14:37:23 -0500
From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Lubricants!! and Manuals

Just got a catalog, Amsoil's regular 10w30 (still synthetic) is still over
$5/qt. Mobil 1 is $3.99/qt. As to lasting longer, yes the polymer oils
will last longer but the engine will still suffer due to contamination so
you still have to change it even though it doesn't "break down". You can
filter out the particulate matter but you have no control over the chemical
material that builds up due to combustion, condensation and fuel which leaks
past the rings etc.. These synthetic tycoons don't tell the whole story :-(
BTW, Semi-Synthetic only needs a small portion of the oil to be synthetic to
use the title so beware :-(

They use polymer oils in turbo shaft and jet engines in aircraft for this
reason. They withstand heat and do not break down but guess what......they
still change it every 25, 50 or 100 flying hours depending on the part or
device for the same reasons mentioned above :-)

After analyzing the claims of some of these of up to 25,000 miles between
changes I concluded the above was true so determined that the expensive
polymer synthetics held no advantage in a normal truck application over the
cheaper copy cat dyno synthetics such as Mobil 1 but this is just my
personal opinion based on some meditation and a little information :-)

I will say I feel a lot better about letting an oil change go over the limit
with synthetic oil but I still try to change it every 5k miles :-) I only
use it in newer engines for reasons already mentioned by others. The 5k
limit I set for myself is a compromise between the 3k we used to use with
less sophisticated oil and engine technology and newer car recommendations
of 7k average and is strictly my own personal rule, not substantiated by any
documentation I know of :-) I'll probably never have an engine go over 200k
miles either but I'm too lazy to change it more often :-) IOW, I'm making a
lot of assumptions but am willing to live with the results :-)

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> mileage, less wear, and longer intervals between changes.

> book for Ams/Oil
> products. Or the internet at http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.amsoil.com.
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Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 14:40:53 -0500
From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)"
Subject: RE: Re: FTE 61-79 - Torque

Yeah, I know but if I did that swap the weak, useless AOD would go too along
with the EFI :-)

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> Sorry, my point wasn't the 460 in the bird, I know that's
> easy enough, my
> point was you playing with fuelinjection and something other
> than a C6 auto.
>
>
> > They put 'em in Pintos.......:-)
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Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 14:48:25 -0500
From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Lubricants!! and Manuals

You can get ford service manual reprints and sometimes used original through
Amazon, Faxon and others. Ford motor sport has a list of book sellers they
will read you over the phone if you call their tech line. That's how I
found out about Faxon :-)

I have an old 79 Petersons and used to go to the library to look at the
Motors manuals but don't know if they are even in print any more?

The Mitchells are the ones the pros use as I recall and they get them by
subscription. They have a lot more technical data in them such as dizzy
curves etc..

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> Where can i get these manuals?? Are they still made??
> Thanks for the Help
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Date: Tue, 09 Nov 1999 13:52:18 -0600
From: Craig Cantrell
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Lubricants!! and Manuals

Here, try this link:

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.helminc.com/

James Stepke wrote:

> Where can i get these manuals?? Are they still made??
> Thanks for the Help
> James
> 79 F150 4x4 400m Gear Vendors O/D :)
> 91 Wrangler 4.0L 5spd !!!FOR SALE!!!
>
> "Ford Service manual is best but Petersons or Mitchells or Motors if they
> still exist are good ones. Chiltons and Haynes are not very helpful unless
> you want torque specs and then you have to dig them out of the text instead
> of the nice charts the Motors manual used to have."
>
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Date: Tue, 09 Nov 1999 12:31:22 -0800
From: Don or Bub
Subject: FTE 61-79 - remove

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Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 16:07:57 -0500
From: tfreeman murphyfarms.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - '68 Bendix Power Steering Gear

A week or so ago someone was talking about getting their Bendix Power Steering
Gear Rebuilt. I can't seem to find that thread. Anybody have an idea of who
can do this and the cost? I can get one from the local parts store and they
want $239 for it. I believe that's fair, but wanted to check with you guys
first. I have to units that are bad. One has a bad input shaft seal and the
other one I put on has a bad sector shaft seal.

Is it hard to replace just the seal? I don't want to tear the whole thing down
if I don't have to.

Thanks,

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Date: Tue, 09 Nov 1999 14:48:24 -0600
From: "Brian C Nyman"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Convert To Electronic Ignition

Can anyone tell me what series motor(s) I can migrate the distributor from for a
390 ? I want to go to electronic ignition, and I'm not sure if I can only use a
FE distributor, any late Ford V8, or big block only.

Brian Nyman
bnyman allina.com

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Date: Tue, 09 Nov 1999 15:27:43 -0600
From: Kirk Baillie
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Lubricants!! and Manuals

I have heard that using synthetic oils in an old engine will cause leaks
to occur do to the detergents in the oil. Is this true? cause if it
isn't next time I change the fluids I will be using it.

Kirk Baillie
74 F250 highboy 4X4
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Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 13:30:13 -0800
From: "Josh Assing"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Convert To Electronic Ignition

> Can anyone tell me what series motor(s) I can migrate the distributor
> from for a 390 ? I want to go to electronic ignition, and I'm not
> sure if I can only use a FE distributor, any late Ford V8, or big
> block only.

I HIGHLY recommened the Pertronix unit. Fits completely in your
stock distributor adn works great! I've used them in a lot of rigs I've
had.

- -jsoh

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Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 15:31:39 -0600
From: "William S. Hart"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Convert To Electronic Ignition

> Can anyone tell me what series motor(s) I can migrate the
> distributor from for a
> 390 ? I want to go to electronic ignition, and I'm not sure if I
> can only use a
> FE distributor, any late Ford V8, or big block only.
>
>

Sorry, those are an FE only thing ... possibly 75 and definitely 76 they
were available with the Duraspark system

You can get them from parts stores still but may be stuck with the core
charge.

The other option is to get one from a salvage yard out of any pre TFI dist.
and pull the guts out of it (the rotor/reluctor and base) and bolt that into
your older dist.

Just my $.02
wish

96 Mustang GT 5spd 4.6L
73ish 1/2ton 4x4 6.4L
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Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 17:02:01 -0800 (PST)
From: canzus seanet.com
Subject: RE: Re: FTE 61-79 - Torque

At 01:13 PM 9:11:99 -0600, William S. Hart wrote:
>Sorry, my point wasn't the 460 in the bird, I know that's easy enough, my
>point was you playing with fuelinjection and something other than a C6 auto.
>
>
>> They put 'em in Pintos.......:-)

There IS a pan to stick a 460 in a Mustang, and headers for the same,
and the T-Bird is a Fox Body......


So whats stoppin' ya??

Steve & the Rockette
63 F100
72 Capri 2000, hers
73 Capri 2600, needs tube frame...
73 MGB GT, Our Toy
94 SHO, SWMBO's
97 Contour, Mine

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Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 17:02:04 -0800 (PST)
From: canzus seanet.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Lubricants!! and Manuals

At 03:27 PM 9:11:99 -0600, Kirk Baillie wrote:
>
>
>I have heard that using synthetic oils in an old engine will cause leaks
>to occur do to the detergents in the oil. Is this true? cause if it
>isn't next time I change the fluids I will be using it.
>

Yes Virginia, it will leak. The easiest way to find out how badly
is to use a quart of tranny fluid in the engine ( this is gonna cause
H*ll on this list ).

I usually do this with every vehicle I buy, wait for it to get a quart low,
get the mot....engine (do you guys have any idea how hard it is for me
to say "engine"??) good and warm, add the tranny fluid, let it idle for about
15 mins, or drive it gently for the same amount of time, and check for
leaks. I do this because I have a concrete driveway, which I don't
like to see oil stains on.....


Steve & the Rockette
63 F100
72 Capri 2000, hers
73 Capri 2600, needs tube frame...
73 MGB GT, Our Toy
94 SHO, SWMBO's
97 Contour, Mine

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Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 17:02:03 -0800 (PST)
From: canzus seanet.com
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Lubricants!! and Manuals

At 02:37 PM 9:11:99 -0500, Peters, Gary (G.R.) wrote:

>They use polymer oils in turbo shaft and jet engines in aircraft for this
>reason. They withstand heat and do not break down but guess what......they
>still change it every 25, 50 or 100 flying hours depending on the part or
>device for the same reasons mentioned above :-)
>


Ya sure, ya betcha, but how many miles is 25 hours in a jet? It takes 5 hours
to cross the country in one direction, and 3 1/2 the other, thats a ton
of miles
when you think about it....

Steve & the Rockette
63 F100
72 Capri 2000, hers
73 Capri 2600, needs tube frame...
73 MGB GT, Our Toy
94 SHO, SWMBO's
97 Contour, Mine

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Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 17:01:59 -0800 (PST)
From: canzus seanet.com
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Lubricants!! and Manuals

At 01:49 PM 9:11:99 -0500, Peters, Gary (G.R.) wrote:
>By all means put Mobil 1 gear lube in all the boxes but synthetic in the
>engine may leak out faster than you want if there are any leaks already.

Agree on these points...

>
>Ford Service manual is best but Petersons or Mitchells or Motors if they
>still exist are good ones. Chiltons and Haynes are not very helpful unless
>you want torque specs

The best manuals I have seen outside the factory manuals are
Clymer(?spelling?). They even have a section in the back with
the flat-rate time for most major repairs, including the level of
difficulty for each job.....

I want to apologize for the Rock's outburst, When (before) we
wed we made a deal, I wouldn't complain about anything she wanted
to add to our household, and she wouldn't complain about anything
I added to the yard. We've been married for 14+ years and the deal
still stands. I know how much she likes her stuff, she knows how much
I like my stuff, so it's a bit of a stand-off......Plus I fix her stuff,
thats my
job in the house.....


Steve & the Rockette
63 F100
72 Capri 2000, hers
73 Capri 2600, needs tube frame...
73 MGB GT, Our Toy
94 SHO, SWMBO's
97 Contour, Mine

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Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 20:40:56 -0500
From: Marvin Meyer
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Lubricants!! and Manuals

I wouldn't complain about anything she wanted to add to our household, and
she wouldn't complain about anything I added to the yard. I know how much
she likes her stuff, she knows how much I like my stuff, so it's a bit of
a stand-off......Plus I fix her stuff, that's my job in the house.....
You should call your home an estate
I have the same policy.......she like bird houses, I like old truck/cars
When we get into a heavy discussion (to put that lightly) I call her the
bird lady of Nelson st. (where we live)
meyer strat.net


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Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 20:50:19 -0500
From: Marvin Meyer
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Leaks & Lubricants

I've got a concrete drive, my "old ticker" (83 LTD) leaks a little too
changed oil over from 10/30 to 10/40 still leaks but not as much sits on
the trunk mat underneath the "spot"
An old trick I was taught was the Diesel solution, that was try and keep
the motor and WOT and pour as much down the throat as possible with out
stalling. Do this in an unpopulated area due to lots of smoke.
I've never really taken a motor apart after doing that to see if it worked.
Has anyone else done this and did it really help? (decrease blowby & oil
consumption)
Marvin
meyer strat.net

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Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 21:08:51 EST
From: TWL1911 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 352 Probs

Hey all
Thanks im gonna check it out some time this weekend if i havent enough to do
between school, work and school activities. then saturday we asre putting a
BUILT 390 in our figure 8 cars i want to see what that ol 390s gonna do on
the track and he pulled it out of a 75 ford 150 that has working ac, which i
want to get, will that brakets off the ac,power steering and alenator work
on my 352? because i wouldnt mind stepping up a little in the years. thanks
all
Travis
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Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 21:15:47 EST
From: IanBoss69 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - M blocks back from the dead

im in the process of a 400M buildup, stock bottom end except for forged .040
overbore pistons, im having the heads polished and milled to try and raise
the CR up to at least 9-9.5 the pistons were rated at 8.5 i believe with the
stock heads. bolt on parts include edelbrock performer cam/manifold combo,
along with a 600 cfm carb (holley or edelbrock still undecided), headers, im
looking for 300hp but im not sure if thatll be enough. does anybody have a
combo such as this that i could compare to?
I was considering switching to the perfomer RPM manifold and cam but its a
daily driver as well as my entertainment so i didnt want to sacrifice street
ability.

Ian
79 F250 4x4 4spd 351M
True Blue Ford Blue
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Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 18:48:56 -0800
From: "Bill Beyer"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - M blocks back from the dead

I don't think Edelbrock makes a Performer RPM for this app. Just something
to keep in mind is that cast flat top 9:1 pistons for the 400 can be had for
a lot less than forged 8.5:1s. The 400 build up they did in HR magazine
netted 385+ hp from a claimed c:r of 9.45:1. They used a 268 Comp Cam. My
400 has the 9:1s, a 276 Crower Cam and the Edelbrock Performer manifold with
Holley 600 cfm. It's still on a stand in the garage waiting for the cam to
be degreed so I can't tell you how it's going to run yet.

"If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, riddle them with bullets"

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From:
To:
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 1999 6:15 PM
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - M blocks back from the dead


> im in the process of a 400M buildup, stock bottom end except for forged
.040
> overbore pistons, im having the heads polished and milled to try and raise
> the CR up to at least 9-9.5 the pistons were rated at 8.5 i believe with
the
> stock heads. bolt on parts include edelbrock performer cam/manifold combo,
> along with a 600 cfm carb (holley or edelbrock still undecided), headers,
im
> looking for 300hp but im not sure if thatll be enough. does anybody have
a
> combo such as this that i could compare to?
> I was considering switching to the perfomer RPM manifold and cam but its a
> daily driver as well as my entertainment so i didnt want to sacrifice
street
> ability.



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Date: Tue, 09 Nov 1999 19:07:55 -0800
From: "S.Harkema"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Unibody sighting

I remember awhile back a discussion about Big Rear Window Unibodies.
There is a very nice Pro-Street S/B one featured in this month's
Truckin' magazine.
I have only seen one of these beauties and it was a long bed.
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Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 22:25:50 EST
From: FORDTRKNUT aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: 2wd & 4wd Steering Columns

I have been listening to the steering column problem, and I just "had" to
say. From my experence a 2wd coulmn will bolt into a 4wd truck.....no
problem. I did a swap about a year ago on a 2wd truck. I swapped bodies
(1978 F-150 2wd body) onto a 1979 F-350 4x4 chassis. The rag joint looks to
bolt diectly to the bottom of the column.....but does not. It has an
"Adapter" the you can unbolt (I think it is a 7/16" 12 point bolt). I
unbolted it and slide the 4wd steering shaft up to it. Well....I hope I
helped you out!!! Wayne Grabley
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Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 19:50:41 -0800 (PST)
From: canzus seanet.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Unibody sighting

At 07:07 PM 9:11:99 -0800, S.Harkema wrote:
>I remember awhile back a discussion about Big Rear Window Unibodies.
>There is a very nice Pro-Street S/B one featured in this month's
>Truckin' magazine.
> I have only seen one of these beauties and it was a long bed.

For the guys that went to the Portland swap meet in April, did
you see the tube framed flopper bodied Uni there?? The owner
had more money than sense if you ask me.....but it was very cool...

Steve & the Rockette
68 F100, 390cid, FMX
63 F100, 292cid, 3speed
72 Capri 2000, hers
73 Capri 2600,tube frame going in.....
73 MGB GT, Our Toy
94 SHO, SWMBO's
97 Contour, Mine

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Date: Tue, 09 Nov 1999 22:43:57 CST
From: "gene baker"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Torque

ou just need to have a wife like mine, I bought her a new house and 2 months
later she gave me the money to get my 410c.i., fe motor built by Hans
Feustel racing engines ($4230.59), DAMN I LOVE THAT WOMAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GENE BAKER
1972F100 (410cid 400hp and counting)


>From: canzus seanet.com
>Reply-To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
>To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
>CC:
>Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Torque
>Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 12:50:14 -0800 (PST)
>
>At 07:36 AM 8:11:99 -0600, Jeffery Hansen wrote:
> >Just for the asking - if I get my wife calmed down from the demands of
> >selling this truck of mine -
>
> I have a problem with this, I want you to take a look around your
>home, looking for things that SWMBO has collected, you'll know
>the stuff when you see it, that "frilly you have no use for stuff".
>Point this collection of crap out, ask her to get rid of it, if she
>refuses,
>ask why you have to get rid of the truck.
>
> As a SWMBO, I can see the stuff I collect Steve has no use for, but
>HWWTBO doesn't ask me to get rid of it.
>
> Heres my theory;
>
> Women collect stuff thats nice to look at but has no usefull purpose.
> Men collect stuff they can use.
>
> Rockette (SWMBO)
>
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Date: Tue, 09 Nov 1999 22:22:12 -0700
From: "Kiernan, Denny"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - That clutch fork again

I need to ask the list about my broken clutch release again. (72 F-100,
360 V8. 4-speed manual. 2 WD).

Recall that the clutch fork was dangling down. Thanks to various ideas
suggested by the replies I got the first time I brought this up about a
week ago, the source of the trouble has been found -- the fulcrum, the
L-shaped bracket attached to the inside of the bell housing, broke off
and was lost on the road. (Must have fallen out through the worn out
rubber boot.) A replacement for the fulcrum has been located, along with
the tapered head rivets that hold it in place, and a little wire spring
that goes with it, but I am unsure about how to attach it to the bell
housing so that everything fits.

I suppose the old rivets have to be drilled out by the machine shop, and
the fulcrum attached with the new rivets, but I was wondering if anyone
had any better or easier method that they had been successful with.

Also, since I have no picture of the fulcrum in place (neither the
Chilton book nor the Ford dealer's files show it), I'm not sure of how
things fit together. If you're looking at the thing from above, facing
the front of the truck, does the L-shaped bracket face the way this "L"
faces, or does it face the oppposite way, __I ?

On the rear side of the clutch fork, there's a tongue made of spring
steel that engages the slot in the "upright" part of the L-shaped
bracket. Does only the tip of the tongue go thru the slot, or does it go
thru further, so that the slot is in the semi-circular part of the
tongue? (I wish there was a way to attach a sketch to this email.)

And I have no idea what the little wire spring is supposed to do.

danger csolutions.net wrote:

> When I installed the last clutch assembly in my 69 with T18, I found it
necessary to fabricate a new fulcrum (using pieces of old fulcrum as
pattern) from angle iron and to attach it to the bell housing with
special
bolts (tapered head to match counterbore hole in bell housing).

Do you mean bolts with nuts on the outside of the bell housing, rather
than rivets?

What about welding?

I dont suppose anyone knows where a picture of all this can be found on
the Internet?

Denny
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Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 01:48:37 EST
From: SHill48337 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Lubricants!! and Manuals

In a message dated 11/9/1999 11:40:28 AM Pacific Standard Time,
gpeters3 visteon.com writes:


miles either but I'm too lazy to change it more often :-) IOW, I'm making a
lot of assumptions but am willing to live with the results :-) >>

Gary,

I've been using synthetics since 1976 when Mobile-1 first came out. I have
tried several brands they all work well. When I first started using it
almost everyone, especially those who people held up as engine experts, could
not find anything good to say about it. But now it is playing to a much
larger crowd including auto manufacturers (there are reasons). I have heard
the rhetoric before, but do not feel bad there is still time for you too to
come around (chuckle chuckle).
Burt Hill Kennewick WA 1972 F-250 4x4 460
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Date: Tue, 09 Nov 1999 22:55:23 -0800
From: "Mike Sealey"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Unibody sighting

On Tue, 09 Nov 1999 19:07:55 S.Harkema wrote:

>I remember awhile back a discussion about Big Rear Window Unibodies.
>There is a very nice Pro-Street S/B one featured in this month's
>Truckin' magazine.
> I have only seen one of these beauties and it was a long bed.

Last BRW Unibody I saw was a '61 Mercury M-100, in Seattle (140 miles south of the Great White North).

Wouldn't I love to have gotten my mitts on *that*...

Mike Sealey
'75 F-150, '99 Windstar (taxicab),
and multiple non-FoMoCo vehicles


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Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 02:16:45 EST
From: SHill48337 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Lubricants!! and Manuals

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