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 ford-trucks.com (61-79-list-digest) To: 61-79-list-digest ford-trucks.com Subject: 61-79-list-digest V3 #406 Reply-To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com Sender: owner-61-79-list-digest ford-trucks.com Errors-To: owner-61-79-list-digest ford-trucks.com Precedence: bulk 61-79-list-digest Friday, November 5 1999 Volume 03 : Number 406 ======================================================================= Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1961-1979 Trucks and Vans Visit our web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com/ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - To unsubscribe, send email to: majordomo ford-trucks.com with the words "unsubscribe 61-79-list-digest" in the body of the message. ======================================================================= In this issue: Re: FTE 61-79 - A LIL OFF SUBJECT BUT...... RE: FTE 61-79 - T-18 and the 435 RE: FTE 61-79 - A LIL OFF SUBJECT BUT...... Re: FTE 61-79 - T-18 and the 435 RE: FTE 61-79 - Nothing is simple, is it? Re: FTE 61-79 - Nothing is simple, is it? (Clutch Splines) Re: FTE 61-79 - T-18 and the 435 Re: FTE 61-79 - A LIL OFF SUBJECT BUT...... FTE 61-79 - F-600 FTE 61-79 - Dim Taillight RE: FTE 61-79 - Dim Taillight RE: FTE 61-79 - Timing light Re: FTE 61-79 - Trailer flat bed-Truck Choices RE: FTE 61-79 - Nothing is simple, is it? RE: FTE 61-79 - Trailer flat bed-Truck Choices Re: FTE 61-79 - Nothing is simple, is it? Re: FTE 61-79 - Trailer flat bed-Truck Choices FTE 61-79 - Fuel/air mixture temps Re: FTE 61-79 - FE Cam Installation FTE 61-79 - Edsels FTE 61-79 - Np435 and Warner T18 Re: FTE 61-79 - A LIL OFF SUBJECT BUT...... RE: FTE 61-79 - FE Cam Installation Re: FTE 61-79 - Indy Pace Trucks? RE: FTE 61-79 - Dim Taillight FTE 61-79 - Bill Beyer ? FTE 61-79 - Yblock response.... RE: FTE 61-79 - Indy Pace Trucks? FTE 61-79 - Timing light FTE 61-79 - Oil Pump Problems? RE: FTE 61-79 - Timing light RE: FTE 61-79 - Oil Pump Problems? RE: FTE 61-79 - Trailer flat bed-Truck Choices FTE 61-79 - torque convertor Re: FTE 61-79 - FE Cam Installation FTE 61-79 - Re: T-18 and the 435 Re: FTE 61-79 - torque convertor RE: FTE 61-79 - torque convertor Re: FTE 61-79 - FE Cam Installation RE: FTE 61-79 - Timing light RE: FTE 61-79 - FE Cam Installation RE: FTE 61-79 - torque convertor Re: FTE 61-79 - torque convertor RE: FTE 61-79 - torque convertor Re: FTE 61-79 - Dim Taillight RE: FTE 61-79 - Dim Taillight FTE 61-79 - Vacation FTE 61-79 - 78 f100 FTE 61-79 - Oil Leaks ======================================================================= ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 06:44:02 EST From: TBeeee aol.com Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - A LIL OFF SUBJECT BUT...... In a message dated 11/4/99 9:19:56 AM Eastern Standard Time, wish iastate.edu writes: > Most all states have a clause that says if you feel you are imminent danger > from the other person involved in the accident you will not be held on hit > and run charges ... I think with someone else in the truck with her (another > young woman even) that there would be little question about whether she > could leave or not ... I think your referring to what are commonly called "justification" statutes. It is tempting to "stand on the brakes" to ruin a tailgater's day. But what if the boneheads are not belted and one breaks his neck from going through the windshield. It would be hard to convince a jury that you were justified in your actions. Best practice is to avoid the confrontation. Your life is worth more than your pride or ego. [soapbox collapses now] Stock Man 1967 Galaxie 500 Convertible (HELP!---I need 15 x5 factory rims) 1967 F-250 FE 390 4wd 1966 F-250 I6 240 2wd LWB Flare Side http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.hometown.aol.com/tbeeee == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 06:52:21 -0500 From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)" Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - T-18 and the 435 The T-18 is a Borge Warner (I think?) the NP-435 is a New Process so they are not the same but they will interchange in most applications. Don't recall if the input splines are the same or not and the internal workings are slightly different as well. The Np435 has a smooth outer cast iron case and there should be an aluminum tag on one of the side plate bolts with the number 435 in one corner. I believe the Np435 has an aluminum top and the T-18 has a cast top shifter cover plate from other discussions on this. I have one lying on the floor in the barn I could look at if I can remember to do it :-) - -- Michigan, Pot Hole Jumping, 78 Bronco Loving, Gary http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.thewowfactor.com/bigbroncos/detail.cfm?detailid=167 - -- > I wish to ask a question at the risk of sounding like a > newbie. Is the T-18 > and the 435 one and the same? I saw an exploded view of a > T-18 and it looks > the same as mine and I was told I had a 435. Thanks! == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 07:00:39 -0500 From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)" Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - A LIL OFF SUBJECT BUT...... Thank you Stock Man for agreeing with the sensible approach :-) Kids hear all kinds of agressive, pridefull, fanatic survivalist stuff from uncles, parents, grandparents, teachers and peers. Unfortunately, these individuals do not have to pay the price for following their advice..... - -- Michigan, Pot Hole Jumping, 78 Bronco Loving, Gary http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.thewowfactor.com/bigbroncos/detail.cfm?detailid=167 - -- > > Most all states have a clause that says if you feel you are > imminent danger > > from the other person involved in the accident you will > not be held on hit > the windshield. It would be hard to convince a jury that you > were justified > in your actions. Best practice is to avoid the > confrontation. Your life is > worth more than your pride or ego. [soapbox collapses now] == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Nov 1999 07:00:00 -0500 From: j arnold Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - T-18 and the 435 At 05:43 PM 11/4/99 -0800, you wrote: > Is the T-18 >and the 435 one and the same? I saw an exploded view of a T-18 and it looks >the same as mine and I was told I had a 435. Thanks! > >Scott Bradley Scott, New Process made the 435, Borg-Warner made the T-18. Both supplied for Ford trucks for years in the same application, so, they are very similar. The "granny", 1st gear, on the 435 is just a little bit lower, otherwise, transmissions function almost identical. Personally, I'm partial to the NP 435, have always beleved they were a little bit stronger, but that may well be just personal prejudice and not fact. stoney == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 07:09:03 -0500 From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)" Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Nothing is simple, is it? Some transmissions were offered in more than one input shaft configuration and some years offered more than one brand of similar transmissions like the T-18 and NP-435 in the same application so the input shaft spline size and count may be different from one to another. Auto parts stores and even the dealers generally don't have the info as to what tranny has what splines so it's up to the customer to figure it out, unfortunately. The spline size may also determine the neck size the throw out bearing rides on so both the throw out bearing and clutch disk, which has the female spline to fit the input shaft, will be determined by this and perhaps even the pilot bushing size may be affected. The only way to be sure is to pull the tranny and measure and count everything :-( Kinda tough if you have to have it to drive...... - -- Michigan, Pot Hole Jumping, 78 Bronco Loving, Gary http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.thewowfactor.com/bigbroncos/detail.cfm?detailid=167 - -- > references to splines.) Then I called another, just for > comparison, and > he says that he has it, but he needs to know if the spline is > the little > one or the big one? 1 and 1/16 inch, or 1 and 3/8 inch? I had to tell > him that I didn't know and would call him back later. Does anyone know > what this spline business is? == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 07:22:22 EST From: TBeeee aol.com Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Nothing is simple, is it? (Clutch Splines) In a message dated 11/4/99 10:18:28 PM Eastern Standard Time, dennyk wenet.net writes: > Then I called another, just for comparison, and > he says that he has it, but he needs to know if the spline is the little > one or the big one? 1 and 1/16 inch, or 1 and 3/8 inch? I had to tell > him that I didn't know and would call him back later. Does anyone know > what this spline business is? I am not aware of a spline reference. The Master Part Catalog shows two possible clutch discs for a 1971 F-100 with 360. They are both 11" in diameter. One is for serial #'s before "L40,001" The second for after "L40,001"; Part Nos. are C8TZ-7550-B and D2TZ-7550-A; The throw-out bearing breaks the possibilities down again by the following two serial #'s before "M30,001" and after "M30,001" ; however it then shows the same Part Nos. for each as D1TZ-7548-A; There are no differentiation of part numbers based upon the tranmission. I have successfully used aftermarket clutch/pressure plates which are often rebuilts for the older trucks. I do not think they are any better or worse than the original. The one which is in my plow truck is over 9 years old. It gets heavy use. The original will clearly cost much more from a Ford Dealer FWIF. Stock Man 1967 Galaxie 500 Convertible (HELP!---I need 15 x5 factory rims) 1967 F-250 FE 390 4wd 1966 F-250 I6 240 2wd LWB Flare Side http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.hometown.aol.com/tbeeee == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 07:25:43 EST From: TBeeee aol.com Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - T-18 and the 435 In a message dated 11/5/99 6:54:05 AM Eastern Standard Time, gpeters3 visteon.com writes: > > I wish to ask a question at the risk of sounding like a > > newbie. Is the T-18 > > and the 435 one and the same? I saw an exploded view of a > > T-18 and it looks > > the same as mine and I was told I had a 435. I have a scan of the top covers on my web site from which you can easily tell the difference between these two transmissions. Stock Man 1967 Galaxie 500 Convertible (HELP!---I need 15 x5 factory rims) 1967 F-250 FE 390 4wd 1966 F-250 I6 240 2wd LWB Flare Side http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.hometown.aol.com/tbeeee == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 07:41:41 EST From: TBeeee aol.com Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - A LIL OFF SUBJECT BUT...... In a message dated 11/5/99 7:02:21 AM Eastern Standard Time, gpeters3 visteon.com writes: > Thank you Stock Man for agreeing with the sensible approach :-) Kids hear > all kinds of agressive, pridefull, fanatic survivalist stuff from uncles, > parents, grandparents, teachers and peers. Unfortunately, these individuals > do not have to pay the price for following their advice..... > Your welcome Gary and your points are all reasonable and well received on this subject too. I think it is a part of Americana to drive aggressively and have fun behind the wheel. However, there is an awesome responsibility too. [enter soapbox again] Extremely tragic accidents happen as a result of trying to have "fun"; Here's one example: Everyone know what it feels like to loose your stomach on a small knoll? A seventeen year old girl is now paralyzed from the neck down as a result of a "friend" losing control of his car while driving at a high rate of speed to crest one of these places trying to get the car's suspension to drop out to make the car feel like it's air-born. He's being prosecuted. I think the stakes are much higher nowadays. When you have passenger's in the car or are traveling a roadway with other motorists you cannot make these kind of decisions for them. If you want to risk your life no problem. Don't risk mine or someone elses. Practice defensive driving. If your not sure what that is all about then take a class. Most states offer such classes through Motor vehicle bureaus and it also can give you insurance discounts and other perks. If you are inclined to have fun behind the wheel, do it in controlled situations off-road, on a track or otherwise. Wear helmets and safety harnesses or at the least safety belts! How do you think the professionals are able to walk away from these horrific crashes? [soapbox re-collapses] Stock Man 1967 Galaxie 500 Convertible (HELP!---I need 15 x5 factory rims) 1967 F-250 FE 390 4wd 1966 F-250 I6 240 2wd LWB Flare Side http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.hometown.aol.com/tbeeee == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 14:04:12 +0100 From: "Bill Brox" Subject: FTE 61-79 - F-600 Does anyone know if the 1964 F-600 were offered with a diesel engine, and if so what kind of engine ? Bill == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Nov 1999 06:05:13 -0700 From: Keith Srb Subject: FTE 61-79 - Dim Taillight HI gang. I've got a 74 F-250 that I am having an intermittent tail light problem with. The tail light on drivers side is so dim you can barely see it sometimes. Other times it shines just as brightly as the passenger side tail light. So far I have cleaned the contacts in the socket that holds the bulb, replace the bulb several times, and cleaned off the grounding surface and grounding terminal for the drivers side tail light with no results. The truck was wired for a 9-pin, I think it is a nine pin, trail light before I bought it. I have gone through those connections and cleaned them up and used new scotch-lock connecters as well. Anybody got any other suggestions? Thanks Keith Srb herbie ford-trucks.com http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://members.netvalue.net/herbie Mesa, AZ 1986 Ford Bronco II, 2.9L (I HATE LITERS) V-6, Mitsubishi 5-Speed. 1980 Harley Davidson, XLH, Rebuilt from the frame up. 1974 Ford F250 Ranger XLT, Camper Special, 390ci 4bbl, Automatic, Long Box, Style Side. 1966 Ford F100, 240 C.I. Straight Six, Model 1100 1bbl carb, Oil Bath Air Cleaner, Warner T-18 4-Speed, Short Box Style Side. My Blood runs "TRUE BLUE FORD on Four Wheels and Pure HARLEY on Two Wheels!" == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 08:22:56 -0500 From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)" Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Dim Taillight 74 is Ooooooooooooolllllllllldddddddd! Plastic only lasts so long before it dries out and cracks which allows water and salt to enter the insulation and begin working on the wires. Follow your wiring harness all the way to the engine bay and clean it off and look for green spots on the insulation. Where there is a green spot there is a broken or nearly broken wire. This kind of break can be intermittant for a long time before it finally quits altogether. If there are any ground wires near the tail lights which go to the frame, clean them up and make sure they are not damaged too :-) As they say, "Been there, done that" :-) - -- Michigan, Pot Hole Jumping, 78 Bronco Loving, Gary http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.thewowfactor.com/bigbroncos/detail.cfm?detailid=167 - -- > I've got a 74 F-250 that I am having an intermittent tail > light problem with. The tail light on drivers side is so dim > you can barely see it sometimes. Other times it shines just > as brightly as the passenger side tail light. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 08:25:09 -0500 From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)" Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Timing light Now you did it! :-) - -- Michigan, Pot Hole Jumping, 78 Bronco Loving, Gary http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.thewowfactor.com/bigbroncos/detail.cfm?detailid=167 - -- > >Not arguing with you, > > How about if I say a FE is far superior to a 385:) == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 08:32:33 -0500 From: frenz.6 osu.edu (Dale Frenz) Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Trailer flat bed-Truck Choices Duh....um...... don't goosenecks hitch to a fifth wheel pin/plate? Or maybe I just over generalize everything. In regards to his actual question, if you're gonna buy a truck to pull a trailer.... get a diesel. With $62,000 canadian dollars, I figure thats roughly $41,000 US. You can go buy a brand new Ford Powerstroke crewcab dually 4x4. Then you can tow anything and look damn cool doing it. >i sell trailers, goose necks are more popular than fifth wheels. if >interested let me know. i'm in georgia. >jeff grant == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 08:29:40 -0500 From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)" Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Nothing is simple, is it? This reminds me, there is a plastic tool that will align the clutch disk for installation of the pressure plate. I believe it was only $1.89 or something. I've installed many clutches without one and believe me it is one pain in the butttttttt! What's interesting is that I don't recall there being any question about which pilot shaft tool to use for my bronco so maybe the question is moot? - -- Michigan, Pot Hole Jumping, 78 Bronco Loving, Gary http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.thewowfactor.com/bigbroncos/detail.cfm?detailid=167 - -- > Some transmissions were offered in more than one input shaft > configuration > and some years offered more than one brand of similar > transmissions like the == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 08:40:25 -0500 From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)" Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Trailer flat bed-Truck Choices I had this same question.....? Goose necks are designed to fit over the truck bed so you can make turns as are flat beds with flat fronts that rise up over the bed and then extend back down to the 5th wheel. I'm not sure I really see the difference, they both have the same general shape but one has a floor in the goose neck? This is not a criticism, I'm really interested to know the difference? - -- Michigan, Pot Hole Jumping, 78 Bronco Loving, Gary http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.thewowfactor.com/bigbroncos/detail.cfm?detailid=167 - -- > Duh....um...... don't goosenecks hitch to a fifth wheel > pin/plate? Or maybe == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 08:46:30 EST From: TBeeee aol.com Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Nothing is simple, is it? In a message dated 11/5/99 8:31:00 AM Eastern Standard Time, gpeters3 visteon.com writes: > This reminds me, there is a plastic tool that will align the clutch disk for > installation of the pressure plate. I believe it was only $1.89 or > something. The clutch pack I just purchased for my 66 project had that little tool in there. What a great idea. I too have done many without the alignment tool. Real pain w/o it, but smooth as can be with it. Stock Man 1967 Galaxie 500 Convertible (HELP!---I need 15 x5 factory rims) 1967 F-250 FE 390 4wd 1966 F-250 I6 240 2wd LWB Flare Side http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.hometown.aol.com/tbeeee == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Nov 1999 13:51:58 +0000 (GMT) From: David Henderson Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Trailer flat bed-Truck Choices > Duh....um...... don't goosenecks hitch to a fifth wheel pin/plate? Or = maybe > I just over generalize everything. Gooseneck is actually a brand name out of Bryan, Texas (started by a=20 former Aggie). There are actually three kinds of hitches for "in bed=20 hitching" trailers. The actual GooseNeck brand trailer has a large ball with a large hole=20 in it. This ball rotates in the bed of the truck, secured to the=20 truck by a shaft with a keeper pin fit through a plate mounted to the=20 frame. The trailer then hooks to the ball by fitting over the ball=20 and is secured by a pin that fits through the hole in the ball. Don't=20 like is much as it is rather hard on your truck when you have to pull=20 the trailer through a field. Then there is the "Universal" ball hitch. I have one in my truck. It=20 is a 2 5/16" ball either on a plate that sits in the bed and is bolted=20 to the frame or goes through the bed and is mounted to a plate welded=20 to the frame. Much better for pulling trailers through the fields. The last type is actually called a fifth wheel. The ball is mounted=20 on the trailer and the hitch on the truck is a receiver, much like=20 those on tractor-trailers. You will probably not see one of these=20 types on a work type trailer, but rather on a "travel" trailer. As for the truck, I have to agree with Dale. For overland, long=20 hauls, a 460 or a diesel is the way to go. I have had both ('85 F-250=20 2wd 460 supercab and '89 F-250 4wd 7.3l diesel regular cab). Either=20 one, when hooked up to a trailer, will either a) pull the trailer, b)=20 spin the wheels, or c) twist the driveshaft. The diesel was an=20 automatic (C-6), and the 460 was a 4spd. I have to say I preferred=20 the 4spd with a trailer. Better braking and better gears. One thing=20 you will have to watch with the diesel is winter time. Make sure you=20 always fill up near an interstate (tend to have better quality diesel)=20 and keep both antigel and a water remover in your tank at all times. =20 I love my I6, and it performs better than either the 460 or the diesel=20 up to about 45mph, but for long hauls, I would prefer the others. =20 Now, if you're talking about just farm use then I'd go with the I6=20 over the others. As for the ride, you'll never have a better ride in your F-250 or=20 F-350 than when it's hooked up to e 30' gooseneck trailer. Real=20 smooth!! My 2 pesos. Dave H - --=20 _ _| ~~. David Henderson \, _} DHenders VT.Edu \( Gig 'em Aggies! '93 Beat Nebraska!! Currently at: Interdepartmental Genetics Program 2010 Litton Reaves Hall Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University Blacksburg, VA 24061 (540)231-4773 (540)231-5014 DHenders VT.Edu http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.dasc.vt.edu/henderson/dhenderson.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Nov 1999 07:42:08 -0600 From: "John LaGrone" Subject: FTE 61-79 - Fuel/air mixture temps >>I'm only guessing at the reasons for the cool can and inter coolers (I'm sure John will straighten me out :-)) That'll be the day. :-) The only thing I can add to the cool can discussion is that the colder the fuel is when you fill your tank, the better gas mileage you get. Gasoline expands or contracts a great deal as its temp changes. If you have a chioce, fill up at the coldest time of day. The pump delivers the gasoline by volume, then as the day warms up, the gasoline expands in your tank. Except for the warm up cycle, the carb and engine are always at the same basic temp, so the contracted, cold gasoline goes farther than warmer, less expanded gasoline that you put in at 3 in the pm. Since dragsters generally are sans cooling sytems, I suspect they get maximum heat transfer to the fuel/air charge for best vaporization. Intercoolers and turbos I leave to the folks with big bucks for repairs. :-) - -- John jlagrone ford-trucks.com 1979 F150 Custom LWB Regular Cab 351M C6 (Henry) http://www.ford-trucks.com/jlagrone/henry.home.htm Dearborn iron rules!!!! == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 09:06:54 -0500 From: tfreeman murphyfarms.com Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - FE Cam Installation I didn't try the original cam. I did get the block, cam and all to the machine shop yesterday though. They checked the cam for straightness (which was fine), then they started checking the ID of the bearing. The #2 ID was out of spec. They were "turning" the diameter out with a special tool when I left it. They told me if they couldn't get it to turn down, they'd replace it. They are going to eat the cost on it as well. I was happy with that. So far I really like this shop. While they have the motor, they're going to degree the cam, as well as, machine the timing gear to accept a pair of bearing plates to prevent damage from the cam walking. My new "refurbed" heads and engine should be ready next week. I feel the shop I use is competent, they finished second in a Top Sportsman Shootout at the Red River Raceway near Shreveport, La. I should be on ESPN. Pretty much all they build is race motors. Just to keep them in check on tolerances, I've had them document them and then I second check what I can after they've done the work. So far so good. As far as cam selection, I would assume that Crane has good quality control. I know a few years back they had a problem on the 351 designs cracking right at the distrubutor gear, but from what I understand they've fixed all that. I'm using a Comp Cam that came from my machinist. I actually bought the K-kit which has the cam, matched valve springs, keepers, locks, seals, lifters, timing chain and of course the decals worth at least 10mph when displayed. :-) Good Luck with yours! - -Ted Did you try to install the original cam (or a different cam) to see if it went in ok?? I took the block and new cam to the shop yesterday and they tried to straighten #4 bearing, no help, then he installed a new bearing at #4 and still no help. Finally, they pulled another cam off of the shelf and it went in ok. They seemed to think that my new cam was bent somehow. Last night I got home and tried to install the cam that was originally in the engine (stock Ford cam) and it went in ok. I called Jeg's and they are sending a replacement today. I am guessing that the cam is slightly bent, but I don't have a dial indicator to check for straightness. Howardb == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 09:23:49 EST From: NORTONMC aol.com Subject: FTE 61-79 - Edsels Found this regarding Edsels. Seems the list was discussing these last week. Good picture that really gets the point of the thread across. www.ratfink.com/BC58Edsel.html Dennis McNamara 79 Ranchero == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 09:37:01 -0500 From: am14 daimlerchrysler.com Subject: FTE 61-79 - Np435 and Warner T18 Scott writes: >>I wish to ask a question at the risk of sounding like a newbie. Is the T-18 and the 435 one and the same? I saw an exploded view of a T-18 and it looks the same as mine and I was told I had a 435. Nope. NP435 is New Process heavy duty 4 speed with 1st gear being a "creeper" gear. T18 is Borg Warner heavy duty 4 speed with 1st gear being a "creeper" gear. Both are FOMOCO original equipment offered in a variety of different vehicles over a very long period of time. You might find a T18 in a '78 Bronco and an F series of the same year might carry an NP435. (Used for examples only - not factual.) Both are very reliable and very similar in design. Neither have OD. Azie Ardmore, Al. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 09:43:38 EST From: TWL1911 aol.com Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - A LIL OFF SUBJECT BUT...... I would like to add to this: now iowa has just instated a thing called the graduated drivers liscence it restricts driving between 12 and 5 at night now i think this is a great idea because for 1 when im in school i swear like 3/4s of the people there shouldnt have a liscence period. even though i still have a regular liscence and im 16 does not make me a bad driver in the 1 year that i have been driving i have never seen a accident nor a ticket. which most kids get pulled over a week after they get there licsence well not me and im proud to stay that way. and plus i race cars( im just pit crew i race inthe mechanics race and they get crazy to) to so that really helps in alot of situations for about 6 months i was driving a POS chevy truck that had only front wheel brakes i think that helped me because i havea increased stoping distance and i drive the limit (most of the time, open road well.......) but anyways I ALWAYS were myu seat belt and i thyink that saves lives the most. well thats enough of me Travis == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 08:45:48 -0600 From: "William S. Hart" Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - FE Cam Installation > slightly bent, but I don't have a dial indicator to check for > straightness. > > One quick and dirty method for checking balance/straightness of a round object is to roll it on a flat surface (glass is recommended, but I've found cement works okay too) ... if it makes a whump whump sound as it accelrates and decelerates, then likely its bent ... if you do it slow enough you may actually notice the small gap under it as it gets around there ... Just my $.02 wish 96 Mustang GT 5spd 4.6L 73ish 1/2ton 4x4 6.4L http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Nov 1999 07:00:31 PST From: "James Stepke" Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Indy Pace Trucks? I found out a little more about my vehicle!! Thanks for all the info!! Model Year: 79 Series: F150 - 4x4 Pickup Engine: 8 Cyl, 400ci, (6.6L) 2bbl Assembly Plant: Michigan Truck Transmission: Automatic, Ford C6 Front Axle: ('78-79) w/ sway bar Rear Axle: 4.11 Limited Slip, 3750lb Ford Can anyone tell me how to find out more about the Gear Vendor stuff and how i can tell if i have one. Maybe a pic of the C6 would help or some measurements of it!!! Thanks James 79 F150 400 V-8 91 Wrangler 4.0L ______________________________________________________ == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 09:13:13 -0600 From: "William S. Hart" Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Dim Taillight > So far I have cleaned the contacts in the socket that holds the > bulb, replace the bulb several times, and cleaned off the > grounding surface and grounding terminal for the drivers side > tail light with no results. The truck was wired for a 9-pin, I > think it is a nine pin, trail light before I bought it. I have > gone through those connections and cleaned them up and used new > scotch-lock connecters as well. > > Anybody got any other suggestions? > One of my friends was having a similar problem with a newer BII ... he had checked all those connections 3 or 4 times ... finally he just took a multi meter and worked his way up the wiring harness checking it the whole way ... he got all the way to the front and found that whoever had wired in a plow at one time had used the rear taillights for something and left the wire too short, so the connection had broken pretty severely ... he was mad at himself 'cause he knew that was there, but hadn't thought of it affecting the rear ... anyway after 2 years of no taillight he was pretty happy ... So check the connections all the way from front to rear like Gary suggested, I bet you find your problem. Just my $.02 wish 96 Mustang GT 5spd 4.6L 73ish 1/2ton 4x4 6.4L http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 09:11:38 -0500 From: "don" Subject: FTE 61-79 - Bill Beyer ? I am looking for a gentleman named Bill Beyer. If u read this please email me at donb midtnn.net. Thanks, (this is about a ford part he sent me and I never paid him for it) == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 10:28:46 +0000 From: "Eric" Subject: FTE 61-79 - Yblock response.... Hey Jack and Brian, Neat story 'bout that Yblock Unibody truck! My vote is to keep that Y-block engine in there! It sounds like it served you well over the long years, so why dump it now? It's probably true that more of these parts were available in the 70's, but there are more and more sources for Yblock parts to help you out - especially with the 'Net. You might want to also subscribe to the Ford-Truck Enthusiasts "Pre-'61 list". I do both since they tend to discuss the Yblock engine a little more than on this particular "61-79 list". Also, check out the email list at: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://yblock.web-page.net, it's under the "Yblock mail" heading. This email list contains some of the top Yblock gurus out there who will help you out- just like the good folks on this list.... (must be a FORD thing! ;-D ). This list is awesome for engine related info (as the name implies). Lastly, StreetRodder Magazine ran a series of articles last year on rebuilding and hopping up the Yblock. It ran from Jan 1999 - December 1999 issues - and contains some valuable info. Definitely worth checking out. You say your son wants more horsepower and speed, well, I suggest that you hop that engine up and remind him that the Yblock was quite a powerful engine 'in it's day', and can be made quite respectable even today. I was born a little too late to have seen the Y-blocks tearing up the chebbys at the drags, but I've met some very interesting Ford folks who 'were there and done that'.... and the stories are great! Heck, the Unibodies came just about 'factory' tubbed with those humongus (hojo term?) rear wheel wells! ;-) I'm no Yblock expert by any means, but I'm a fan of the motor, and I'm also interested in talking Yblocks with other folks. I hope you decide to stick with it - IMHO! ;-) Keep in touch... and Y-notta Yblock?! ;-) Eric 'Stitch' ============================= "Happy Days" 1961 F100 Unibody Pick'em up Truck w/'59 292 Y-block ============================= > Date: Wed, 03 Nov 1999 23:11:58 -0800 > From: Jack Wolf > Subject: FTE 61-79 - 62 Ford unibody > >Its time to rebuild, It still is licensed and runs on the road, but wew is > it worn to a frazel. I would be more than happy to send a picture of how I > received it over 20 years ago and when I finished it the first time. Just > e-mail me if you want and I'll send it. I have a feeling parts are not > going to be so easy to come by as they were 20 years ago. > >I presently have a 272 bored to 292 with 312 marine heads with the valves > cut to 45 degrees and exhausted by headman headers. . Do you > think I should try to rebuild this once awesome engine or update to what? > my son wants horse power and speed. I think its time to let this old Ford > shine one more time. I would appreciate any advise you want to give. > >Thank You, Jack and Brian > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 10:46:15 -0500 From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)" Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Indy Pace Trucks? If there is a box between the transmission and transfer case it would probably replace the tail shaft adapter so your control wiring would have to be attached to this part somewhere. The one recently discussed was actually mounted on the rear end and there was another one I heard about that actually mounted in front of the transmission. In any case there will have to be control wires going to the shift machanism and it will be located in one of the above positions, not in the tranny itself. Most of them mount to the rear of the tranny and replace the tail shaft housing. On the C-6 with NP-205 this part is cast iron and about 10" long or so. Not sure what the Gear Vendors part is made of but there are no wires going to this part if it's just the tail shaft adapter. - -- Michigan, Pot Hole Jumping, 78 Bronco Loving, Gary http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.thewowfactor.com/bigbroncos/detail.cfm?detailid=167 - -- > Can anyone tell me how to find out more about the Gear Vendor > stuff and how > i can tell if i have one. Maybe a pic of the C6 would help or some > measurements of it!!! == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Nov 1999 11:56:26 -0600 From: "John LaGrone" Subject: FTE 61-79 - Timing light >>I always assumed that the strobe was independent of the plug or anything after the source to the attachment point of the strobe pickup wire. What you are saying implies that the strobe wire needs a complete circuit to engine ground in the wire being tested to function? Sort of like a Clamp? Not arguing with you, just curious. Dang it , Gary, just when I begin to trust you.... The timing light won't flash on a non-firing cylinder because there is no current, voltage, or any other hojo term you want to use. Without the spark, the circuit isn't completed. Think about it. You can put 6 million volts on one end of a wire and it won't go anywhere until you complete the circuit in some manner. You can't measure voltage without completing the circuit. (grin, grin) - -- John jlagrone ford-trucks.com 1979 F150 Custom LWB Regular Cab 351M C6 (Henry) http://www.ford-trucks.com/jlagrone/henry.home.htm Dearborn iron rules!!!! == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Nov 1999 11:09:15 -0600 From: "John LaGrone" Subject: FTE 61-79 - Oil Pump Problems? >> Within the last 2 weeks I'm noticing that my 72 302 F-100 appears to be losing oil pressure at freeway speeds and under some loads. What happens is at 60 plus mph, the oil pressure gauge indicates that the pressure is falling and the temp gauge begins to creep up. At city speeds, all is normal, including driving with heavy loads on the truck (1800 lbs plus). The oil and coolant levels are all where they should be, the engine is a rebuilt late 60's-early 70's 302 with less than 20,000 miles, and nothing else seems to be wrong. I'm using 20W50 oil and haven't noticed anything unusual prior to the last couple of weeks. Can anyone in the group point me in the right direction? All responses would be greatly appreciated. Bob in San Diego Bob, Sounds like your oil filter or pickup screen is stopped up or the wrong oil filter is installed. I'd change the oil and put on a new oil filter first or at least put on a new filter. 20W50 sounds a little heavy to me, but there are lots of opinions about oil on this list....... - -- John jlagrone ford-trucks.com 1979 F150 Custom LWB Regular Cab 351M C6 (Henry) http://www.ford-trucks.com/jlagrone/henry.home.htm Dearborn iron rules!!!! == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 13:17:14 -0500 From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)" Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Timing light Well, Dang it John! I assumed it grounded through the battery ground some how :-) Feed the spark plug wire to a device in the light which is grounded to the battery ground wire from the light and you certainly do have a circuit :-) Why the heck else would you hook the stupid thing to the battery in the first place? Never stopped to analyze it cuz it always did it's job as intended, to check timing on a wire that had a plug that worked :-) This may explain why on an off brand vehicle once I tried everything to get it to light and figured they were doing something arcane that I didn't understand at the time. In that case the pin in the dizzy gear had sheared and it wasn't getting ANY spark because the dizzy wasn't turning but maybe a fouled plug on the #1 cylinder caused the dizzy pin to she.........well, maybe not :-) It may also be that that was the day the wire broke in the light but I use it so often, yeah like once every two years or so, that I can't keep all the details straight :-) Has nothing to do with age either :-) - -- Michigan, Pot Hole Jumping, 78 Bronco Loving, Gary http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.thewowfactor.com/bigbroncos/detail.cfm?detailid=167 - -- > Dang it , Gary, just when I begin to trust you.... The timing > light won't > flash on a non-firing cylinder because there is no current, > voltage, or any > other hojo term you want to use. Without the spark, the circuit isn't > completed. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 13:24:33 -0500 From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)" Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Oil Pump Problems? Yeah, I was going to mention that too but in death valley in the summer I hear it's indicated :-) Here in Michigan we go for "flow" characteristics first, weight doesn't matter so much but most of us use 5w30 or 10w30 until the engine gets real loose and oil pressure drops then we go for the heavier stuff :-) I'm really impressed with Mobil 1 products in that regard. The 75-90 synthetic I use in the trannys and diffs is a lot "softer" than the old dyno oil I used to use :-) Cars start a lot easier with the Mobil 1 5w30 in the cold of winter too :-) A trick I learned (can you tell I'm bored?) when I was a kid is that if you don't get the oil to go through the passages the engine won't live very long but if you can get it to flow well, even thin oil will protect the engine and probably better than thick oil will :-) How's that for a few opinions :-) - -- Michigan, Pot Hole Jumping, 78 Bronco Loving, Gary http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.thewowfactor.com/bigbroncos/detail.cfm?detailid=167 - -- > at least put on a new filter. 20W50 sounds a little heavy to > me, but there > are lots of opinions about oil on this list....... == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 13:29:55 -0500 From: Marvin Meyer Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Trailer flat bed-Truck Choices Now I know the difference between goose necks and 5th wheels. We are so busy in the bearing industry that we are leasing a large heat treating furnace to do our bearings. We already own two units. They don't have the room and money to expand so it's cheaper to lease for a short duration while they shut down and overhaul the other 2 units. They ( F.A.G. Bearings) are going through a huge expansion with the Aerospace Industry. Plus our production facilities have been running WOT for 2 years now, I'm in maintenance, there was no bi-annual shut down this year or last. Fix on the Fly, Germans WOW they are interesting They are planning on trucking bearings 2.5hrs down the road to this place and HT then return for grinding. It looks like a 2 yr. time table. For me it could be a small lucrative trucking business. I have not figured out #'s that will be required on an hourly basis, but I'm sure a Diesel or V-10 or maybe a 5.4 gas would haul it. I like the old stuff but I can't afford a break down and plus they won't even consider me if I pull up in my old 73-79 3/4 or 1 ton unit. meyer strat.net == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 10:55:19 -0800 (PST) From: rich may Subject: FTE 61-79 - torque convertor Do all transmissions have torque converters? ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 10:43:55 -0800 (PST) From: Pat Brown Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - FE Cam Installation wish wrote: > > One quick and dirty method for checking balance/straightness of a round > object is to roll it on a flat surface (glass is recommended, but I've found > cement works okay too) ... if it makes a whump whump sound as it accelrates > and decelerates, then likely its bent ... if you do it slow enough you may > actually notice the small gap under it as it gets around there ... > Yup, just stand at the top of your driveway and roll that new cam down towards the street. If it goes whump,whump, just toss it. If it doesn't, just toss it anyway. It's toast now :-) Bill! That's what happened to your cam! The UPS guy tested it for your, just to save you the trouble! Don't we have a similar test for witches? :-) :-) :-) :-) - -- Pat Brown Sebastopol, California == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 13:59:15 -0500 From: "Serian" Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: T-18 and the 435 > I wish to ask a question at the risk of sounding like a newbie. > Is the T-18 and the 435 one and the same? I saw an > exploded view of a T-18 and it looks the same as mine and > I was told I had a 435. Thanks! Both the T-18 and the NP435 are heavy duty 4 speed manual transmissions with "granny" first gear. They are very similar in appearance and construction, but they are two different units. The way I tell them apart is by looking at where the reverse light switch mounts in the transmission housing, the general shape of the transmission, and the manufacturer's mark. The T-18 was made by Warner ... I have no idea whether it was ever stamped with some kind of manufacturer's symbol; the 435 was manufactured by New Process Gearworks, and will have a little emblem cast or stamped into the case (under all the grease and dirt) of a gear with "NP" within it. Both the T-18 and NP435 were used extensively in Ford trucks, and they are pretty much interchangeable (you can readily take out one and put the other in its place without a problem). == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 11:09:40 -0800 From: "Bill Beyer" Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - torque convertor Only automatics... "If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, riddle them with bullets" - ----- Original Message ----- From: rich may To: Sent: Friday, November 05, 1999 10:55 AM Subject: FTE 61-79 - torque convertor > > Do all transmissions have torque converters? > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 14:06:46 -0500 From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)" Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - torque convertor All transmissions "Are" torque converters (or amplifiers?) :-) Actually only automatics have what are "commonly" called torque converters. They are more accurately called "Fluid Couplers" because they use ATF to connect the engine to the transmission via vanes or turbins. Manual transmissions use mechanical clutches in most cases (for you guys waiting for me to make a mistake, I know all about the Auto stick VW :-)) which are operated by the driver for changing gears etc.. Why they are called "converters" isn't exactly clear to me since they don't really convert anything. If anything they "Amplify" torque under load and at low speeds but since it's still torque and it's still rotary motion I don't see the conversion? :-) - -- Michigan, Pot Hole Jumping, 78 Bronco Loving, Gary http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.thewowfactor.com/bigbroncos/detail.cfm?detailid=167 - -- > Do all transmissions have torque converters? == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 11:12:30 -0800 From: "Bill Beyer" Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - FE Cam Installation Yeah I guess I should write him to thank him...can you ship a witch UPS? "If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, riddle them with bullets" - ----- Original Message ----- From: Pat Brown To: Sent: Friday, November 05, 1999 10:43 AM Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - FE Cam Installation > > Bill! That's what happened to your cam! The UPS guy tested it > for your, just to save you the trouble! > > Don't we have a similar test for witches? == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 13:22:26 -0600 From: "William S. Hart" Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Timing light > You can put 6 million volts on one end > of a wire > and it won't go anywhere until you complete the circuit in some > manner. True > You > can't measure voltage without completing the circuit. (grin, grin) > False ... Voltage is potential, so you can have voltage without current, but not current without voltage (a battery has 12V when fully charged whether there's something hooked to it or not right ?) But the timing light is sensing current, not voltage, so this works :) Gary wrote : >Why the heck else would you hook the stupid thing to the battery >in the first place? The battery is there so the light has a way to turn on ... the power to the light is separate from the power from the spark plug wire ... especially in inductive lights (not enough juice there) Just my $.02 wish 96 Mustang GT 5spd 4.6L 73ish 1/2ton 4x4 6.4L http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 13:24:03 -0600 From: "William S. Hart" Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - FE Cam Installation > > One quick and dirty method for checking balance/straightness of a round > > object is to roll it on a flat surface (glass is recommended, > but I've found > > cement works okay too) ... if it makes a whump whump sound as > it accelrates > > and decelerates, then likely its bent ... if you do it slow > enough you may > > actually notice the small gap under it as it gets around there ... > > > Yup, just stand at the top of your driveway and roll that new cam > down towards the street. If it goes whump,whump, just toss it. > If it doesn't, just toss it anyway. It's toast now :-) > Hahahahahaha ... sorry, I guess that sounded a bit bad, or wasn't really clear ... our garages here aren't brushed so they are very flat and smooth (great in the winter when your boots are wet too!) ... and I wasn't going for distance, just a roll or 2, hopefully the journals hit before the lobes ... otherwise you'll have problems installing it won't you ? > Don't we have a similar test for witches? > :-) :-) :-) :-) yeah I think so, if you roll them down the hill and they live they're witches, if not, well then I guess they weren't, oh well ;) Just my $.02 wish 96 Mustang GT 5spd 4.6L 73ish 1/2ton 4x4 6.4L http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 11:27:56 -0800 (PST) From: rich may Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - torque convertor I have a 1968 390Gt mated to a C-6. Where would it be located and do you know what it would look like? - --- "Peters, Gary (G.R.)" wrote: > All transmissions "Are" torque converters (or > amplifiers?) :-) Actually > only automatics have what are "commonly" called > torque converters. They are > more accurately called "Fluid Couplers" because they > use ATF to connect the > engine to the transmission via vanes or turbins. > Manual transmissions use > mechanical clutches in most cases (for you guys > waiting for me to make a > mistake, I know all about the Auto stick VW :-)) > which are operated by the > driver for changing gears etc.. > > Why they are called "converters" isn't exactly clear > to me since they don't > really convert anything. If anything they "Amplify" > torque under load and > at low speeds but since it's still torque and it's > still rotary motion I > don't see the conversion? :-) > > -- > Michigan, Pot Hole Jumping, > 78 Bronco Loving, Gary > http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.thewowfactor.com/bigbroncos/detail.cfm?detailid=167 > -- > > > Do all transmissions have torque converters? > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info > http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html > ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 11:35:49 -0800 From: "Bill Beyer" Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - torque convertor It is fastened to the flexplate at the back of the engine inside the bellhousing of the transmission. It looks like 2 large bowls fastened together mouth to mouth. "If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, riddle them with bullets" - ----- Original Message ----- From: rich may To: Sent: Friday, November 05, 1999 11:27 AM Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - torque convertor > I have a 1968 390Gt mated to a C-6. Where would it be > located and do you know what it would look like? == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 14:49:05 -0500 From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)" Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - torque convertor As Bill said, it's attached to a thin, flexible flywheel. You can actually view it by taking out the 2 or 3 bolts holding the dust cover on the front of the tranny just behind the engine oil pan on the same plane or surface the starter attaches and right next to the starter. You will see the flexplate and behind it and bolted to it with 4, 3/8 lugs with 9/16" nuts is the torque converter. Except for draining the oil via the drain plug which is visable through a hole in the flexplate, you have to remove the tranny to access it. - -- Michigan, Pot Hole Jumping, 78 Bronco Loving, Gary http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.thewowfactor.com/bigbroncos/detail.cfm?detailid=167 - -- > I have a 1968 390Gt mated to a C-6. Where would it be > located and do you know what it would look like? == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 13:17:08 -0700 From: "Danger" Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Dim Taillight > The tail light on drivers side is so dim you can barely see it sometimes. > Other times it shines just as brightly as the passenger side tail light. > > So far I have cleaned the contacts in the socket that holds the bulb, replace the bulb several times, and cleaned off the grounding surface and grounding terminal for the drivers side tail light with no results. > Anybody got any other suggestions? > > Thanks > > > Keith Srb herbie ford-trucks.com ............... After cleaning each of the connections, it is useful to put "dielectric" grease (or vasoline petroleum jelly) on them to provide a better connection and prevent corrosion. Danger danger csolutions.net == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 12:31:36 -0800 From: "Southerland, Rich" Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Dim Taillight I went through the same thing with my E150. I tried cleaning, new bulbs, adding an auxilliary ground... In the end, replacing the socket with a new one cured it for good. - -----Original Message----- From: Danger [mailto:danger csolutions.net] Sent: Friday, November 05, 1999 12:17 PM To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Dim Taillight > The tail light on drivers side is so dim you can barely see it sometimes. > Other times it shines just as brightly as the passenger side tail light. > > So far I have cleaned the contacts in the socket that holds the bulb, replace the bulb several times, and cleaned off the grounding surface and grounding terminal for the drivers side tail light with no results. > Anybody got any other suggestions? > > Thanks > > > Keith Srb herbie ford-trucks.com ............... After cleaning each of the connections, it is useful to put "dielectric" grease (or vasoline petroleum jelly) on them to provide a better connection and prevent corrosion. Danger danger csolutions.net == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 16:15:26 -0500 From: am14 daimlerchrysler.com Subject: FTE 61-79 - Vacation Gone to the Mountains. Will return on 11/16. Azie Ardmore, Al. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 16:52:40 -0500 From: "msaur" Subject: FTE 61-79 - 78 f100 Could anyone tell me what a G78r 15 would be in the new sizes? Like is it a P235 75 15 or P215 75 15? or what. msaur odyssey.on.ca == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 15:27:37 -0700 From: "Danger" .... To access the rest of this feature you must be a logged in Registered User Of Ford Truck Enthusiasts
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