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61-79-list-digest Friday, November 5 1999 Volume 03 : Number 405



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Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1961-1979 Trucks and Vans
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In this issue:

FTE 61-79 - Trailer flat bed-Truck Choices
FTE 61-79 - 68 F-250 has to go
FTE 61-79 - 1973-1979 FORD F150 PICKUP PARTS
FTE 61-79 - FE Cam Installation
Re: FTE 61-79 - FE Cam Installation
FTE 61-79 - T-18 and the 435
FTE 61-79 - Timing light
Re: FTE 61-79 - FE Cam Installation
FTE 61-79 - Nothing is simple, is it?
Re: FTE 61-79 - 68 F-250 has to go
Re: FTE 61-79 - FE Cam Installation
Re: FTE 61-79 - Oil Pump Problems?
Re: FTE 61-79 - Trailer flat bed-Truck Choices
FTE 61-79 - Y-Block Website

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Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 18:29:19 -0500
From: Marvin Meyer
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Trailer flat bed-Truck Choices

I've been on the Internet looking for a 5th wheel flat bed style trailer.
It would be neat to find an aluminum one, but I'd take any leads on
anything. Has someone seen one and remember the manufacturers name?
Also given $62,000CDN what would you buy diesel or gas. I have no personal
experience with diesels......Yet
Marvin
meyer strat.net

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Date: Thu, 04 Nov 1999 18:38:29 -0500
From: j arnold
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 68 F-250 has to go

I've finally decided to let go of one. I never trade trucks in on new ones
because I get mad at what dealers offer, so, I've got a 57 (needs frame up
resto), a 68, 76, 79, and 83. Not counting SWMBO's car and a 73 mustang.
ALL need work, not enough time, space, or money, so one's got to go.
I hate the idea of parting out and junking an old truck and this has been
a good one, but just needs too much for me to mess with. I'm offering it to
the list first, then will post it on the FTE website, if anyone is
interested, I'd let it go dirt cheap, just to see it get some attention and
put back on the road. This truck might make a great first vehicle for a
young person who wants to get mobile, like I said , CHEAP, and could be
made road SAFE and drivable for $500 or quite a bit less if they had the
help of someone who knows how to work on them. This has been my farm truck
for the past few years and was running until about 4 months ago.
A 1968 heavy-duty F250, 360 cid, C-4 auto trans, Dana 60 rears with 3.73.
Standard cab, regular styleside bed. No power steering or brakes. Has
underdash A/C unit, fan works, but compressor quit long ago.
Needs a 2v carb, this one gushes gas all over manifold (reason it got
parked 4 months ago), brake fluid leak in right rear (why it got sent to
farm). Other than these things, it was running strong. Body needs TLC,
minor rust all over, but no rust through except on tailgate. Passenger side
was bashed years ago, bed side needs fixing, rear corner of cab is worst
spot since rust has set in there. Heavy step bumpers front and rear.
If anybody is really interested, I can take some pictures.
Trucks in Kentucky, just south of Louisville. If someone wants to fix it,
I'd consider delivering it free quite a ways. If some young person wants to
start a project, I'm sure I can make this something you can afford.
Thanks.

stoney

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Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 19:07:00 EST
From: DR11AGON aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 1973-1979 FORD F150 PICKUP PARTS

1973-1979 FORD PICKUP PARTS:
FOR SALE: 351M WITH EDELBROCK PERFORMER INTAKE, CRANE RV CAM, NEW HEAD
GASKETS, NEW TIMING CHAIN.-$300 C-6 TRANSMISSION.-$200. NP 205 TRANSFER
CASE.- $300. HEAVY DUTY STEERING GEAR BOX, NEW SLIDING-REAR-WINDOW-$40, NEW
DOOR WEATHERSTRIP- $50, PARKING BRAKE CABLE FOR SUPERCAB-$40, (4) B.F.
GOODRICH 35" ALL-TERRAINS WITH 3/4 TREAD-$250, NEWER RADIATOR FOR 351 CU.IN.
ENGINE- $50, NEWER REAR GAS TANK-$50. I LIVE IN THE PHILADELPHIA, PA AREA. I
AM LOOKING FOR LOCAL BUYER, DO NOT WANT TO SHIP PARTS. NEED TO SELL ASAP.
E-MAIL: DR11AGON AOL.COM
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Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 17:37:20 -0700
From: Brian Koss
Subject: FTE 61-79 - FE Cam Installation

>I called Jeg's and they are sending a replacement today. I am guessing
>that the
>cam is slightly bent, but I don't have a dial indicator to check for
>>straightness.

Are you sure you want to put that brand cam in your engine. It sounds like
their quality control stinks. The fact that you have tried twice and failed
is not a good sign. They must be doing somehting in the manufacturing that
is not right. They probably change somehting in the process to save a few
pennies.

In the quest to make items cheaper they make manufacturing changes without
fully understanding how it effects the long term life of the part or in
your case the usefullness of the part. I stopped buying remanufactured
parts about 5 years ago because of the poor quality. Recently, I had to buy
a distributor for a jeep becasue the vacccum advance unit was bad and the
vacuum unit was obsolete. I bought a rebuilt distributor thinking any
distributor rebuilder would have to provide the correct advance curve for
the application since this is the smog law capital of country (California).
It took two tries to get a distibutor that had a functional vacuum advance.
Since I have installed it the advance curve has never been right. I have to
run 6 degrees less advance than recommended and it still pings at highway
speeds under load. $90 down the drain. Today I called the jeep dealer and
for $126 I can buy a BRAND new distibutor for $126 that has a Cap, rotor
and Vacuum unit and the factory mechanical advance curve. Hpefully it
works.

Sorry about the jeep topic but I only install only ford parts in my '66
F100 4x4 also when possible. I wouldn't put that cam in my new motor.


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Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 16:57:05 -0800
From: "Bill Beyer"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - FE Cam Installation

Certainly not unheard of. I received a broken cam from P.A.W. and UPS had to
eat it.

"If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, riddle them with bullets"

- ----- Original Message -----
From: Howard Bottles
To:
Sent: Thursday, November 04, 1999 2:53 PM
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - FE Cam Installation


> I took the block and new cam to the shop yesterday and they tried to
> straighten #4
> bearing, no help, then he installed a new bearing at #4 and still no
> help. Finally,
> they pulled another cam off of the shelf and it went in ok. They seemed
> to think
> that my new cam was bent somehow. Last night I got home and tried to
> install the
> cam that was originally in the engine (stock Ford cam) and it went in
> ok. I called
> Jeg's and they are sending a replacement today. I am guessing that the
> cam is
> slightly bent, but I don't have a dial indicator to check for
> straightness.



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Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 17:43:43 -0800
From: "Shirley"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - T-18 and the 435

I wish to ask a question at the risk of sounding like a newbie. Is the T-18
and the 435 one and the same? I saw an exploded view of a T-18 and it looks
the same as mine and I was told I had a 435. Thanks!

Scott Bradley
1966 F-100 Shortbox 351C

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Date: Thu, 04 Nov 1999 19:06:35 -0800
From: "S.Harkema"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Timing light

>What you are saying implies that the strobe wire needs a complete >circuit to engine ground in the wire being tested to function?
>Sort of like a Clamp?

Now you want me to figure out how it works??jeeesh..

>Sort of like a Clamp?

Sounds like a good analogy.I assume the ignititon
sysem is a DC circut so it has to go to ground to complete the circut.

>Not arguing with you,

How about if I say a FE is far superior to a 385:)

>Never tried to use it for this purpose so have no personal experience
>with this :-)

Give it a try sometime.
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Date: Thu, 04 Nov 1999 21:21:17 -0600
From: "Howard Bottles"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - FE Cam Installation

The new cam is a Crane I purchased mail order from Jeg's, the cam that
went in ok was a stock cam that was on the shelf at the machine shop
that installed the cam bearings. Also, at home, I installed the original
cam that was in the engine and it went in ok. I think Crane cams are
fine, we'll see when the replacement arrives.

Howardb

Brian Koss wrote:
>
> >I called Jeg's and they are sending a replacement today. I am guessing
> >that the
> >cam is slightly bent, but I don't have a dial indicator to check for
> >>straightness.
>
> Are you sure you want to put that brand cam in your engine. It sounds like
> their quality control stinks. The fact that you have tried twice and failed
> is not a good sign. They must be doing somehting in the manufacturing that
> is not right. They probably change somehting in the process to save a few
> pennies.
>
> In the quest to make items cheaper they make manufacturing changes without
> fully understanding how it effects the long term life of the part or in
> your case the usefullness of the part. I stopped buying remanufactured
> parts about 5 years ago because of the poor quality. Recently, I had to buy
> a distributor for a jeep becasue the vacccum advance unit was bad and the
> vacuum unit was obsolete. I bought a rebuilt distributor thinking any
> distributor rebuilder would have to provide the correct advance curve for
> the application since this is the smog law capital of country (California).
> It took two tries to get a distibutor that had a functional vacuum advance.
> Since I have installed it the advance curve has never been right. I have to
> run 6 degrees less advance than recommended and it still pings at highway
> speeds under load. $90 down the drain. Today I called the jeep dealer and
> for $126 I can buy a BRAND new distibutor for $126 that has a Cap, rotor
> and Vacuum unit and the factory mechanical advance curve. Hpefully it
> works.
>
> Sorry about the jeep topic but I only install only ford parts in my '66
> F100 4x4 also when possible. I wouldn't put that cam in my new motor.
>
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Date: Thu, 04 Nov 1999 19:11:45 -0700
From: "Kiernan, Denny"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Nothing is simple, is it?

OK, I called the Ford Parts dealer and said I needed parts to repair
the clutch, (which is original equipment with 140,000 miles on it, in
my 72 F-100, V8 360, 4-speed manual transmission.) I wanted the disk,
the pressure plate, the pilot bearing, the throwout bearing, and the
fork. He says Sure, he's got everything except the throwout bearing.
(Note that he did not ask me about splines, nor did I expect him to.) So
I call another dealer and he says he has the throwout bearing. (Still no
references to splines.) Then I called another, just for comparison, and
he says that he has it, but he needs to know if the spline is the little
one or the big one? 1 and 1/16 inch, or 1 and 3/8 inch? I had to tell
him that I didn't know and would call him back later. Does anyone know
what this spline business is?

Dennis

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Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 20:13:02 -0800 (PST)
From: canzus seanet.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 68 F-250 has to go

At 06:38 PM 4:11:99 -0500, j arnold wrote:
>I've finally decided to let go of one. I never trade trucks in on new ones
>because I get mad at what dealers offer, so, I've got a 57 (needs frame up
>resto), a 68, 76, 79, and 83.

What do you want for the '57?? I'm in Washington state, but crazy enough
about '57s to drive an extreem distance to get one in good condition......

Steve & the Rockette
63 F100
72 Capri 2000, hers
73 Capri 2600, needs tube frame...
73 MGB GT, Our Toy
94 SHO, SWMBO's
97 Contour, Mine

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Date: Thu, 04 Nov 1999 22:15:25 -0600
From: "Jason & Kathy Kendrick"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - FE Cam Installation

\
> >
> > Are you sure you want to put that brand cam in your engine. It sounds like
> > their quality control stinks. They must be doing somehting in the manufacturing that
> > is not right.

Remember, manufacturers can't control how their products are handled
once they leave their premises. Mishandling during shipment and/or
improper storage techniques could both cause a bent cam.

Jason
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Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 20:39:19 -0800 (PST)
From: Dan Lee
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Oil Pump Problems?

I agree, the cooling system cannot get rid of the heat
the engine is producing at highway speeds, but this is
not an airflow problem. It is a coolant flow problem.
Either the radiator is partially blocked or the
coolant isn't flowing. Check for loose belts, the
water pump belt may be slipping. When hot feel the
radiator look for cool spots, these are blocked tubes.

Dan Lee
'53 F100
400C-4V

>Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Oil Pump Problems?

>My guess is that the radiator is not doing it's job
>and
>the over heating is what causes the oil pressure to
>drop but this can
>only
>be a guess since there certainly are other
>explainations :-)

>Around town you are not generating the heat so the
>radiator can handle
>it
>but at speed there are more firing cycles per minute
>which generates
>more
>heat per minute so if the radiator is marginal this
>is where you will
>see
>the problem. The air flowing through the radiator is
>not carrying away
>enough heat or there may be an air flow restriction
>of some
>kind....full of
>bugs or something....



> Within the last 2 weeks I'm noticing that my 72
302 F-100
> appears to be
> losing oil pressure at freeway speeds and under some
loads.
> What happens is
> at 60 plus mph, the oil pressure gauge indicates
that the
> pressure is falling
> and the temp gauge begins to creep up. At city
speeds, all
> is normal,
> including driving with heavy loads on the truck
>(1800 lbs



=====

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Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 00:19:29 EST
From: JJJJJGRANT aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Trailer flat bed-Truck Choices

i sell trailers, goose necks are more popular than fifth wheels. if
interested let me know. i'm in georgia.

jeff grant
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Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 00:42:46 -0500 (EST)
From: crewcab altavista.net
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Y-Block Website

Just in case y'all don't know about it, I found a
website devoted to Y-block engines.

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://members.aol.com/Yblock/YBLOCK.htm

They have a small swap site (actually a guestbook)
warped into a swap page. I posted a request for
a set of exhaust manifolds and intake for my '64
292, and got a few responses. Some expensive, and
ended up with a set cheap out of Las Vegas. The
exhaust's were even bead blasted!

I haven't put them in due to lack of job/money,....


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