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61-79-list-digest Tuesday, October 26 1999 Volume 03 : Number 388



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Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1961-1979 Trucks and Vans
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In this issue:

Re: FTE 61-79 - driving lights amperage
Re: FTE 61-79 - emissions
Re: FTE 61-79 - WHAT IN THE WORLD WAS THAT?
Re: FTE 61-79 - emissions
FTE 61-79 - Tailgaters and false starts
FTE 61-79 - Traction Lok kit for Dana 61-2?
Re: FTE 61-79 - WHAT IN THE WORLD WAS THAT?
FTE 61-79 - How tall is a 1974 Ford truck ?
FTE 61-79 - RE: 64 F100 gas filler
FTE 61-79 - 66 wierd year?
FTE 61-79 - F-600 governor

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Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 21:30:51 EDT
From: GMontgo930 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - driving lights amperage

My gut hunch is that you had a bad switch (or connection at the switch)
causing lots of heat and melting the switch. Your better option is to use the
switch to energize a relay that in turn applies power to the lights. Not only
will the switch be happier by not working nearly as hard, but you'll get
brighter lights due to less voltage drop caused by long wires. It's easy to
do. If you need more info, let me know & I can send you a diagram of the
lights on my 79 Bronco (2 150w Halogens & 2 KC Sealed Beams).

George

In a message dated 10/25/1999 5:06:16 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
jlagrone ford-trucks.com writes:


amps12 vdc. I bought another switch rated at 50 amps 12 vdc. The circuit is
fused with either a 15 amp or possibly 20 amp fuse. Did I get a bad switch
or am I missing something? The new switch isn't going in until I get some
opinions/feedback. BTW, the driving lights are a pair of el cheapo JCWhitney
55 watt halogens that I bought from a friend at a garage sale for $2.
>>
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Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 21:53:05 -0400
From: luxjo thecore.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - emissions

IanBoss69 aol.com wrote:
>
> my 79 F250 also has "unleaded fuel only" i was told by the exhaust shop that
> that, along with the "catalyst" on the engine decal, and the gas cap was what
> they look at when confirming wether or not a truck had cats on it, i dont
> think the emmissions eq. has anything to do with it. I've been wondering how
> the testing facility would know if you switched the gas gauge, put on a
> non'catalyst sticker on the valve covers and took all the EGR emmissions
> systems off??
> Not that i would risk "polluting the earth" with my big huge powerful ford
> truck....
>

Emission stuff was based on GVWR. Cutoff was 6000 lbs in 78, and 8550
or thereabouts in 79. I had a 79 F250 that had emission stuff, but the
79 F350 I just picked up does not.

OX
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Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 22:12:15 EDT
From: Bad4dFilly aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - WHAT IN THE WORLD WAS THAT?

In a message dated 10/26/1999 12:05:48 AM !!!First Boot!!!,
JUMPINFORD aol.com writes:


there,
before you destroy your ring gear >>

Hmmm......dad put a new starter in it as soon as I got it So I
doubt that's the problem.


my sis-in-law drive, ended up buyin a tranny.>>

It took a lot of convincin on his part, but it worked! He better treat Envy
good cuz if he even hurts her there will be hell to pay! LOL But he showed me
how to fishtail so that was purty fun! HeHe! Only thing he hates is drivin it
w/ all my cowgirl stickers on it LOL I told him if he's secure enough in his
masculinity they shouldn't bother him. Sheesh! I'm sittin right there in the
front seat w/ him so anyone can figure out he ain't gay! =P Oh well, must be
a guy thing! *wink*

*~*~Lisa and Envy~*~*
*~*~SIlly boys...trucks are for GIRLS!~*~*

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Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 21:29:01 -0500
From: kimchi webcombo.net
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - emissions

At 09:53 PM 10/25/99 -0400, you wrote:
>IanBoss69 aol.com wrote:
>>
>> my 79 F250 also has "unleaded fuel only" i was told by the exhaust shop
that
>> that, along with the "catalyst" on the engine decal, and the gas cap was
what
>> they look at when confirming wether or not a truck had cats on it, i dont
>> think the emmissions eq. has anything to do with it. I've been
wondering how
>> the testing facility would know if you switched the gas gauge, put on a
>> non'catalyst sticker on the valve covers and took all the EGR emmissions
>> systems off??
>> Not that i would risk "polluting the earth" with my big huge powerful ford
>> truck....
>>
>
> Emission stuff was based on GVWR. Cutoff was 6000 lbs in 78, and 8550
>or thereabouts in 79. I had a 79 F250 that had emission stuff, but the
>79 F350 I just picked up does not.
>

Ah - that helps ~flesh out~ the story I was told by the previous owner of
my F-250 - that at the time it was built, it was considered a work truck,
rather than a passenger vehicle, hence, the absence of smog equipment.

You should've seen the looks on the faces of a couple of guys at the local
emissions test station when I popped the hood - they were bewildered at the
absence of smog crapola. For a moment, I thought I'd have to convince them
that I didn't yank a bunch of stuff off the engine.

It was a real pleasure being able to temporarily detune my engine to pass
emissions, and then bring it right back where it was before (idling &
accelerating just fine) with just a flat-blade screwdriver and a wrench!
No $$$ flying out of my ~svelte~ wallet!

Cheers!

Geoff

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'78 F-250 Custom 2WD SuperCab, Rustic Primer Gray
300 HD I-6 (forged steel crank, etc.), Carter YF-1V
No Cats, No Smogpump, No EGR - 100% Stock
Warner T18 4-spd, 3.31 Dana 61-2 Full-Floater
Power Brakes, Manual Steering, GVWR: 6550 lbs.
295K, and no rebuild yet!
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Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 19:41:37 -0700 (PDT)
From: Bill Ballinger
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Tailgaters and false starts

> Some lady in her 89 Carav*n decided that she
wanted
> to in the same stop that I was in with my 77 F150.
She
> smashed her front end all up and I have a scratch
on my
> license plate and my bumper is pressed in just a
> little.
>


>Glad everything turned out relatively okay... that is
>no one was hurt
>or
>killed ... some days you just gotta love old trucks
:)

I'm sitting home right now suffering from a neck and
back injury from a Saturday night encounter with a
tailgater.

We were in our '98 Contour going to Lexington, TN on
US 412 a few miles from Lexington (I know Stu, you
told me to stay off of that road) when a vehicle
stopped to turn in front of us. We slowed down to
about 20 when , WHAM the back end of the car was
lifted off the ground. The next thing we knew we were
sitting with our seat backs broken down flat, totally
stunned.

The kid hit us doing about 60 mph, but amazingly, my
wife was OK. I was in the passenger seat, and was
turned a little toward her, talking. That's likely
why I'm hurting. The car has about $2500 worth of
damage, and will likely go back together all right.
The other car got under us, and I think that's how the
car survived as well as it did.

I'm just glad we came out as well as we did, but
dammit people are going to have to stop this kind of
stuff. I've been up in St. Louis for the last couple
of weeks (I hate my job, thank you, another false
start it appears) and people drive like a bunch of
idiots now adays. Tailgating, cutting lanes, and my
favorite...you have a clear road on both sides except
for a person who roars by on your left and cuts over
in front of you taking over three lanes to make an
exit.
I'm about to find a piece of ground in the middle of a
forest and go back to the 1800's for a while...

Deacon, I'm so glad to hear you are back in your
house. I hope everything gets squared away for you
soon.

Now if I can just get a damn job I can stay with for
more than a few months, we'll be a respectable bunch
:-)

=====

__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
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Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 21:45:53 -0500
From: kimchi webcombo.net
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Traction Lok kit for Dana 61-2?

Hi, all. With winter approaching, I thought it might be prudent to make an
improvement to my pickup in the traction department.
Is there a kit that I can install in my diff to transform it into a
Traction Lok? Price?

If not, how difficult would it be to swap in a Dana 60?/70?/??? that is
"TL" straight from the factory?

One of my brothers is a diesel mech, so I have access to all sorts of
heavy-duty tools, if need be.

The original owner of the truck used it mostly for towing his 30+' boat
back and forth from Milwaukee, Wisconsin to Florida, and logic would
dictate that one wouldn't be doing much boat-towing when Jack Frost's
dandruff starts hitting the ground!

:)
Thanks!


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'78 F-250 Custom 2WD SuperCab, Rustic Primer Gray
300 HD I-6 (forged steel crank, etc.), Carter YF-1V
No Cats, No Smogpump, No EGR - 100% Stock
Warner T18 4-spd, 3.31 Dana 61-2 Full-Floater
Power Brakes, Manual Steering, GVWR: 6550 lbs.
295K, and no rebuild yet!
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Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 23:45:03 EDT
From: JUMPINFORD aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - WHAT IN THE WORLD WAS THAT?

In a message dated 10/25/99 7:16:42 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
Bad4dFilly aol.com writes:

So
I
doubt that's the problem. >>

This doesnt mean anything if its a Pep Boys, Autozone, Chief, Checker, or
anyother chain Autoparts stores. Tweety eats Pep Boys Starters about every 3
months. Lifetime warrenty, but I hate crawlin under the truck at 9 pm to
change a bad starter. When I get the new motor in, you better believe shes
gettin a quality starter.

Darrell Duggan
74 F-350 "Tweety"
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Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 02:37:40 -0400
From: "Serian"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - How tall is a 1974 Ford truck ?

> Does anyone know approximately how tall a standard 1974 Ford
> Pickup is (measured from the ground to the roof)? If so, could you
> please email me the information and your source?

I dunno, but I have a 1976 F250 in my yard that I can go out and
measure if it will help ... I would guess that the difference in height
between a '74 and a '76 is negligible.




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Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 02:46:44 -0400 (EDT)
From: crewcab altavista.net
Subject: FTE 61-79 - RE: 64 F100 gas filler

For those who are joining our show already in progress..
I asked - "How does one check mileage accurately in a
'64 with the huge filler neck?". I can't even lock
the nozzle, it won't stay in place. One can't get any
sense of mileage unless the filling is consistent from
tank to tank.

An adapter might work, but the weight of the nozzle
will be hanging on it, so anticipate that.

The most worrisome part is that for the nozzle to shut
off automatically, the fuel level has to actually reach
the tip of the nozzle. At this point the fuel is now
sitting past the rubber hose joints between the filler
neck and tank. Any leak in those joints or hose and
fuel is dripping inside the cab, until enough gets used
by driving. Could get unpleasant in the cab from the
fumes, let alone the fire danger.

Unfortunately I have a live-in fume detector and she
detected odors on a drive last weekend, so I need to
replace that hose. Someone had an inexpensive solution
for this I think, care to share again? A new piece of
hose from Sacramento Vintage Ford is $12, and with the
lack of an income (and job) starting next week, the
hose will have to wait.

Jeff '64 F100 CrewCab

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Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 04:18:27 -0400
From: "Gary L. Perry"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 66 wierd year?

Guys, I have a buddy with a 66 F-100 he would like to redo.
Most catalogues skip-over 66 year. What's the deal?
He's interested in cab mounts, inner fenders, window w/strips,
lowering kits. Can other model years fit with modifications?
Ford seems good at one-off model years, I have a 56 which
is not like 55 or 57. "G"

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Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 04:30:10 -0400
From: "Gary L. Perry"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - F-600 governor

I have a 76 HD359 eng I'm putting in 56 COE. The Holley
carb leaks all-over and I'm replacing with Motorcraft 2-bbl.
The Distributer in this engine has two vaccumn lines running
to it for the governor off the carb. Can I omit these lines w/out
any problem? I don't care if it has gov. and there's no place
on other carb to connect them. Also, is an electric choke coil
HOT all the time key is on? Do I still need to hook-up a tube
to exhaust manifold with one? The new carb has electric and
place for tube. Not sure if some relay is needed or what?....


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