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61-79-list-digest Monday, October 25 1999 Volume 03 : Number 386



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Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1961-1979 Trucks and Vans
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In this issue:

FTE 61-79 - Re: NOS 73-79 8ft BEDSIDE
FTE 61-79 - Re: 460 Motor mounts
FTE 61-79 - 66 Wipers- Tire Size
Re: FTE 61-79 - 460 Motor Mounts
FTE 61-79 - Some day I findin' a new hobby
Re: FTE 61-79 - Some day I findin' a new hobby
Re: FTE 61-79 - 460 Motor Mounts
FTE 61-79 - ADMIN: Free t-shirt and window sticker
FTE 61-79 - 89 cara*n and 77 F150 head to head
FTE 61-79 - ADMIN: Web site updates
FTE 61-79 - 61-79 FTE list RE: 64 F100 gas filler (was "I dunno...")
FTE 61-79 - FTE 61-79-list RE: I dunno (292 acceleration)

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Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 08:22:33 EDT
From: FORDTRKNUT aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: NOS 73-79 8ft BEDSIDE

I have one that I bought from a guy in SC. I was told that FORD stop
stamping around 1987 for the 79 stuff. I bought both sides....Yes....NOS
too. They were $300.00 dollars each plus the $125.00 for shipping each.
Here is his phone number: KELLETT'S AUTO
SALVAGE........1-864-575-3293.....Ask for Jimmy & Tell him Wayne from New
Jersey sent ya. Happy Hunting!!! Wayne

PS.....The part number (like somebody said) should be D3TZ-----thru----D9TZ.
The second digit is the second part of the year. Also the first letter: "C"
is 1960's......."D" is 1970's......"E" is 1980's. I forget what year....but
for started to mess with a perfect numbering system, and started with a "ZZ"
(no...not the Mustang stuff....a 1979 Mustang part would be D9ZZ.....A truck
would be D9TZ) for the 1999 cars & trucks. Ooohh well......
Take Care!!!
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Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 07:34:11 -0500 (CDT)
From: Rubberducky23 webtv.net (Danny Ling)
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: 460 Motor mounts

are you converting from a Modified series of motors to a 460? if you are
L&L makes a set of conversion mounts specificaly for what you are doing.
I use em myself.

I ordered mine through (cost is $99.75+s/h)
D & B Sales
2420 E. Britton Rd.
Morrice, MI 48857

(517) 625-3451
1-800-526-0064

they also carry headers and anything else you may need for a 460
conversion.

Laters, Danny Ling

(pre 77 1/2) 77 F250 Highboy 4X4, 69 429 Thunder Jet.

87 Samurai 231 Buick V6/TH 350, IH Scout axles, SOAC, 33X14.00 Boggers

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Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 10:08:10 -0700
From: "O'Connor"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 66 Wipers- Tire Size

Dave,
I went thru a similar ordeal with my 66 and it turned out to be one of the
pivot assemblies was jumping the spline inside the wiper arm. I just
looked in the parts book for a 66 and the info is confusing. It lists a
single speed RH at
12 1/4" long (C3TZ-17545-A) quantity one; but it doesn't list a left hand.
I'll measure mine after lunch and get back. We also put new tires on our
66. They were Goodyear Eagle GT11's. Front was P235/70R15 and back was
P255/70R15. The rims are 15 x 7". If you want a wider tire on the back,
try a P275/60R15 on an 8" rim.

Tim 66F100 SWB Custom Cab w/Origainal P/S and O/D
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Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 11:41:54 EDT
From: ETRMK aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 460 Motor Mounts

Mac,

I also plan on making this swap in my 78 w/ 400 this coming spring.
Everyone ive talked to that has used L&Ls mounts has been more than 100%
satisfied. I have also heard of people modifying FE mounts but what needs to
be dont to them i dont know. L&L also carries accesory brackets for Alt, P/S,
and A/C(kinda pricy). D&B sales and Jeffs Bronco Graveyard are two of L&Ls
distributors(commonly seen in every 4x4 mag on earth) but here is L&Ls direct
info,

3210 Century Dr.
Rowlett, TX 75088
(927) 475-5202

Good luck and more power to ya.... LITERALLY! :-)



Eric Norris
Spokane WA

78 F-250 4x4 C6 400 4in Trailmaser susp. 33in BFG mts.
66 F-100 2wd 3spd 352
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Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 10:14:12 -0700
From: "J.S.H."
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Some day I findin' a new hobby

Pulled the iron intake off of my FE
Dropped a 3/8"washer down the heat crossover/heat riser in the head.
Any ideas on getting it out? Can I leave it in there?
Here is the intake saga to date.Decide to pull intake and re-seal to
repair small oil leak near distributor.Pull the iron intake and install
a Shelby intake I picked up about 20 years ago.No problems,runs fine.
Check the oil,water in the oil.Off comes the Shelby.
Shelby checked out true/flat,pick up "premium" Fel-Pro gaskets and try
again.While torquing the tenth of ten bolts,snap goes the bolt and off
comes the intake.
Do the whole drill again and while torquing sixth of ten bolts strip
goes the threads and off comes the intake.
Install Heli-Coil in head and try again.While torquing the eighth bolt
snap goes the reinforcing boss around bolt on intake and off comes the
intake and thats when the washer went down the heat cross over.
Take my torque wrench to work and check it out against a couple of
others.Checks out fine.
I now have a used Edelbrock Performer 390 that was totally filthy
but otherwise in excellent condititon.Call around and they want $40 to
bead blast it.I figure I can get a cheap blaster for less than that.
$100 later I have a blaster,sand,glass beads and safety equipmet etc..
and 2 hours of blasting later the intake looks great.Now if I can just
get the sand out of my eyes,ears, hair etc....
I'm starting to think I could have lived with the small oil leak :)
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Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 12:31:07 -0500
From: "Jason & Kathy Kendrick"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Some day I findin' a new hobby

You could try using a small magnet, although it might be tricky on an
iron head... Or you could use the paper clip/hook method. If you left it
in, it could collect carbon deposits and potentially clog your
crossover.
Jason


J.S.H. wrote:
>
> Pulled the iron intake off of my FE
> Dropped a 3/8"washer down the heat crossover/heat riser in the head.
> Any ideas on getting it out?
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Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 15:01:21 EDT
From: SHill48337 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 460 Motor Mounts

In a message dated 10/24/1999 8:45:50 AM Pacific Daylight Time, ETRMK aol.com
writes:


Everyone ive talked to that has used L&Ls mounts has been more than 100%
satisfied. I have also heard of people modifying FE mounts but what needs to
be dont to them i dont know. L&L also carries accesory brackets for Alt,
P/S,
and A/C(kinda pricy). D&B sales and Jeffs Bronco Graveyard are two of L&Ls
distributors(commonly seen in every 4x4 mag on earth) but here is L&Ls
direct
info,
>>
Those mounts that L&L sells for around $100, closer to $120 last I looked,
are similar to the 1970 429 Torino. L&L designs them to be used with their
towers. Realizing these mounts do not have the depth of the complicated
stock Ford mount. However, I understand from reading this list that they can
be fit to the Ford towers with minimal effort. I have the Torino mounts
because they are cheaper and it took NAPA only one day to get them. Good Luck
Burt Hill Kennewick, WA 1972 F-250 4x4 450
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Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 18:34:06 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: FTE 61-79 - ADMIN: Free t-shirt and window sticker

The web site is getting stale so we've decided to give
a free t-shirt and window sticker to anyone who submits
an item we publish on the web site. Anyone who has
submitted anything since the 1st of October will also
get a t-shirt and sticker. Details can be found at:

http://www.ford-trucks.com/free.html

Ken Payne
Admin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts

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Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 16:45:54 -0600
From: William A Whited
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 89 cara*n and 77 F150 head to head

Some lady in her 89 Carav*n decided that she wanted
to in the same stop that I was in with my 77 F150. She
smashed her front end all up and I have a scratch on my
license plate and my bumper is pressed in just a
little.

- --
William A Whited
74 F100 RANGER SUPERCAB 390
77 F150 CUSTOM 460
EL Paso, TX
SEMPER FI


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Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 23:38:07 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: FTE 61-79 - ADMIN: Web site updates

Ford Truck Enthusiasts web site updates:

- -Nearly every pictorial section has had at least one truck added
to it.
- -Four articles added to tech articles section.
- -Links section updated.
- -Forum section updated.

Enjoy!

Ken Payne
Admin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts
http://www.ford-trucks.com


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Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 23:18:49 -0400
From: "Jim and Liisa Tino"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 61-79 FTE list RE: 64 F100 gas filler (was "I dunno...")

I have the same experience - I just stand there and hold the
gas nozzle - gets awful cold in the winter, though! I
haven't tried to find a solution, but now that you mention
it, there should be a way to make some kind of adapter that
would fit over the filler opening. As I recall, back when
they switched from leaded to unleaded fuel, they also made
the gas nozzles different sizes, and consequently nozzle
adapters were available. Perhaps something like that? Or
some kind of rubber cup with a hole in the middle that would
snug over the filler opening? Let me know if you come up
with anything.

Jim
64 F100 292

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Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 23:30:43 -0400
From: "Jim and Liisa Tino"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - FTE 61-79-list RE: I dunno (292 acceleration)

I have been enjoying the discussion on the relative
acceleration/performance of the 292. The 292 has a longer
stroke than the 302, being different blocks, etc. My
question is this: How much of a vehicle performance depends
on stroke, cubes, and other engine factors as opposed to
gear ratio? I do not mean to compare engines with radically
different cu. capacity, but rather those that have similar
displacements.

Also, was the 1st gear of the 292 3-on-the-tree the same as
the "second" gear in my 292? My tranny is a 4 speed, but
the first gear is a "creeper" gear. Under street
conditions, i start the vehicle rolling using "second" gear.....

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