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61-79-list-digest Friday, October 22 1999 Volume 03 : Number 383



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In this issue:

Re: FTE 61-79 - Duraspark/Ballast resistor?
FTE 61-79 - Re: Radiator support
Re: FTE 61-79 - Yet more Speedo questions! (transfer cases)
FTE 61-79 - Re: 21st Century FE
RE: FTE 61-79 - RE: Speedo Change over
RE: FTE 61-79 - Yet more Speedo questions! (transfer cases)
RE: FTE 61-79 - 1300 E-mails....
FTE 61-79 - NOS Frame Clips
FTE 61-79 - Clutch Cable Source
FTE 61-79 - 292 Available on ebay
FTE 61-79 - RE:Highboy
FTE 61-79 - RE: motors for sale
Re: FTE 61-79 - Early 88 Bronco Hubs
RE: FTE 61-79 - RE: motors for sale
FTE 61-79 - late model hubs and rotors
Re: FTE 61-79 - Yet more Speedo questions! (transfer cases)
Re: FTE 61-79 - RE:Highboy
Re: FTE 61-79 - RE:Highboy
Re: FTE 61-79 - RE:Highboy
RE: FTE 61-79 - late model hubs and rotors
FTE 61-79 - Oil coming out the dipstick
RE: FTE 61-79 - Oil coming out the dipstick
Re: FTE 61-79 - late model hubs and rotors
FTE 61-79 - Clarification : Oil coming out the dipstick
Re: FTE 61-79 - 79, F-250 with sick 460
Re: FTE 61-79 - 1961 F-100 Power steering
Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: FTE 61-79 64 F - I dunno
FTE 61-79 - Re: 78 F250 4x4 Steering
FTE 61-79 - RE: 78 F250 4x4 Steering
FTE 61-79 - Re: highboy
Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: highboy
Re: FTE 61-79 - RE:Highboy
[none]
FTE 61-79 - motor knock
FTE 61-79 - RE: Speedo Change over
Re: FTE 61-79 - RE: Speedo Change over
FTE 61-79 - Re: 64 F - I dunno
FTE 61-79 - 78 F-250 4x4 Steering
FTE 61-79 - New Family Member... 66 F100

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Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 04:19:26 -0700
From: John Lord
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Duraspark/Ballast resistor?

It depends on the coil you use, the factory duraspark system uses a resistor
wire in place of the resistor, you can live without one as long as you coil can
take it, they are rated for use with or without. I did the same and put a
ballast resistor in with my Accel Supercoil, without it the oil inside overheats
and the coil blows up (did it myself).
So simply if you have the coil from the duraspark system do it, if your sure
your coil is made for 12 volts dont worry

4Travis wrote:

> Hi during my restoration/rebuild of my 74F250 FWD I coverted the ignition
> from points to the Ford Dura-Spark II system. Is it neccesary to use a
> ballast resistor with the electronic ignition? This is on a 300 I6 but that
> shouldn't make any differance...
>
> Geffrey Travis
>
> 96 F350 PSD crew cab
> 81 F250 Geesermobile
> 74 F250 "Highboy"
> 96 HD Road King
> 97 HD Wide Glide
>
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Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 08:04:26 -0400
From: "J. Doss Halsey"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: Radiator support

At 05:46 PM 10/20/99 -0400, you wrote:
>Doss,
>hi i see you used a 73 radiator support in your '68.. I just pulled a 78
one from a local
>yard...they look
>identical to my 68 rusted one except for the hood latch...What all is
>needed to use
>the supports????

joe,

I think mine is from one of the later trucks (don't know it to be a '73
exactly, it was in there when I got it.) It has the hood latch part which
looks like a window lock. Is this making sense? It is not used for this
application, though. The PO tells me that the only mod was that he had to
drill a few extra holes for body bolts which did not line up with existing
holes. Everything else fits fine.

Doss Halsey
'68 F-250, 390, camper special, ranger trim, -2 points at the concours
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Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 08:20:12 EDT
From: TBeeee aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Yet more Speedo questions! (transfer cases)

In a message dated 10/21/99 1:09:07 AM Eastern Daylight Time, tony pscico.com
writes:

> Anybody know what the heck I'm
> talking about, and what I would have to do to be able to hook up the 24's
> speedo? Has anybody done this swap or once again am I just being weird?

In the order you asked: yes...not sure...not personally and probably! I
will look into this for you though. It may take awhile to get it through
committee.

Stock Man
1967 Galaxie 500 Convertible (HELP!---I need 15 x5 factory rims)
1967 F-250 FE 390 4wd
1966 F-250 I6 240 2wd LWB Flare Side
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Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 08:22:59 -0400
From: Steve Schaefer
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: 21st Century FE

Ok, now lets have some fun:^) It all depends on time, ability, and of course money. One way would be to buy an after market system. Holley offers the Projection units. I have one of these on my 77 F-250.
Nice unit, does need minor adjustment (done in the cab at the control box) at the change of the seasons. I get 14 mpg loaded, unloaded etc. (weighs 7500 lbs empty). Other systems (Force Fuel Iinjection,
Accel, DFI, Electromotive) require you to provide an intake with injector bungs welded to them and use there computer, sensors, injectors, etc. Intakes usually consist of a Edlebrock Victor Jr. intake (or
comparable single plain intake). These are performance minded systems, but still provide good torque and low end drivability. The other way that I like to use is to use mostly Ford parts and make my own. I
have done this on a 514 T-bird and I am currently building a system for my 460 dually. Basically you use most of the harness, sensors, injectors, etc. and you adapt it to the motor you are using. One draw
back that I can see on the FE is that there are no TFI distributor made for the FE. You would need to make your own. After this is done, you will need to get a custom chip burnt. This is the reason for
using the Mustang computer, there is some good tuners out there. I use Chris Johnson exclusively.

I will tell you that FI will not always improve gas mileage. A carb in good tune can get just as good of mileage as a good FI system. Drivability does improve and that is why I like it. Also, I like to use
the Ford system cause if something goes wrong, you can go to the nearest auto parts store and get the part you need. I had this problem with the Projection. I was in Lexington KY this summer and a fuel
injector stuck wide open. I was 450 miles from home, on a holiday weekend. I had to switch back to a carb in the middle of an Auto zone parking lot. The idea of buying a carb on the road, while having 3 at
home on the shelf mad me sick, but chalk it up to an experience (I am about out of chalk LOL).

Steve S.
77 F-250 Super cab (Yellow/purple)
76 F-350 Crewcab flatbed
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>
> I am about to start an on new adventure. I want to build a computer
> controlled, fuel injected FE to replace the 351M in my 78 Bronco. I like
> the 351M but it gets about the same mileage as my 352 without all the bottom
> end torque I get from the 352. Has anyone ever attempted this? Any ideas
> about who to contact about a computer, fuel injection system etc. The
> mechanical are easy, but the electronics and the fuel injection are not.
> Besides these items do you guys see any other monsters that are lurking
> around the corner to squash my dream. If I can squeeze 18 mpg average out
> of this experiment I will be very happy since no matter how I tune the 351 I
> get 12 mpg and the 352 averages 11.
>

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Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 07:58:37 -0500
From: "William S. Hart"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - RE: Speedo Change over

> Yeah, I went to school with a guy that got a speeding ticket in a Steiger
> 4WD agricultural tractor pulling a folded disk in a 35 MPH zone
> in a small
> town in Montana.
>

That cop's probably lucky the guy didn't take it personally ... not much'll
stop those Steigers ... I also didn't think they'd go that fast ... 27's the
top speed on most of the new farm tractors ... though I suppose just
slightly over-sizing those tires would change things in a hurry ...

Just my $.02
wish

96 Mustang GT 4.6L
73ish F100 4x4 6.4L
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Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 08:05:57 -0500
From: "William S. Hart"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Yet more Speedo questions! (transfer cases)

> just pushes in with a flange bracket that holds it in.. The
> Speedo mount on
> the Spicer-24 is the type that somehow (and somebody just yanked it out)
> attaches and then screws into the case. Anybody know what the heck I'm
> talking about

Yup ...

, and what I would have to do to be able to hook up the 24's
> speedo?

Figure out what size you need on both ends, then go down to your local auto
parts store ... they should have several different lengths and styles
available, though they'll likely have to order it in ... also I wouldn't be
too surprised to find out that a speedo cable for whatever the 24 came out
of will plug into your dash with a small modification or two ...

Has anybody done this swap or once again am I just being weird?
>
>

I think you answered your own question there ...

Just my $.02
wish

96 Mustang GT 4.6L
73ish F100 4x4 6.4L
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Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 08:10:51 -0500
From: "William S. Hart"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - 1300 E-mails....

> Anyone have a line on a cable that
> will bend on an
> eight inch (8") radius??
>

FMS #'s M-7553-A302
M-7553-B302

A consists of a beefed up clutch release fork and heavy duty selv-adjusting
teflon-lined clutch cable

B includes all parts required to convert stock non-adjustable clutch cable
to fully adjustable type ...

Looks like B has a quadrant and a mounting bracket while A is a clutch fork
and a mounting bracket ...

These are of course for a Mustang (A=79-93, B=82-98)

> Also, what is the part # for a '78/79 F250 steering box??


That I can't help you with ...


Just my $.02
wish

96 Mustang GT 4.6L
73ish F100 4x4 6.4L
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Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 09:21:02 -0700
From: "O'Connor"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - NOS Frame Clips

Stockman,
What are the part numbers for the clips you need?

Tim 66F100 Custom Cab SWB w/352 & original P/S and O/D
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Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 06:37:12 -0700
From: Tim Bowman
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Clutch Cable Source

Steve:

Good to meet you too at our little function in Tukwila. Re: the clutch
cable source, this just came up on another list I follow. There the
Galaxie owner went to a boat dealer and obtained a generic cable and had
the appropriate ends affixed (I don't know if the radius was under 8").
He indicated his total cost was around $30 and he had to fabricate a few
parts at the bellhousing end.

Hope this helps.

Tim Bowman
Burien, Wa
71 F100


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Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 06:40:16 -0700
From: Tim Bowman
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 292 Available on ebay

For those who might be looking for a 292, I saw advertised on ebay a few
nights ago a 292, which came out of a 56 Ford F100. The seller claimed
it was a low mileage rebuild.

Tim Bowman
Burien, WA
71 F100



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Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 07:04:36 PDT
From: "Stephen Brown"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - RE:Highboy

Brett, if the stock height for a high boy is 24" from bottom of the door to
the ground w" tires, all you should have to do is add 4" to that #
because of your 38"s. So anything over 28" is your lift(as long as you don't
have a body lift) If nobody can give you the numbers you want, then that
should work:

Stephen B.
71 F250 Custom

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Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 07:27:13 PDT
From: "Stephen Brown"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - RE: motors for sale

Hey, I'm looking for a good 390 for my F250. How far is it to Creston, Iowa
from Creswell, Oregon Anyway?

Stephen B.
71 F250 Custom

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Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 10:34:36 EDT
From: JJJJJGRANT aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Early 88 Bronco Hubs

some of the chain auto parts stores can get the hubs and the rotors.

jeff grant
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Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 09:38:17 -0500
From: "William S. Hart"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - RE: motors for sale

> Hey, I'm looking for a good 390 for my F250. How far is it to
> Creston, Iowa
> from Creswell, Oregon Anyway?
>

A long ways ... only about an hour for me though ... eh, maybe an hour and a
half ... :) Unfortunately I don't have any plans to head west yet, so I'm
probably no help ... Mapquest shows its about 1900 miles and says it'll take
about 34 hours ... no problem I'm sure :)

If through some twist of fate you do end up making it out this direction, be
sure and let me know, always good to meet a fellow FTE and there aren't too
many of us in this area ...

Just my $.02
wish

96 Mustang GT 4.6L
73ish F100 4x4 6.4L
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Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 10:44:26 EDT
From: JJJJJGRANT aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - late model hubs and rotors

i remember some one saying that 75-86 spindles, rotors and hubs are the
same,
has anyone verified this?
i'm trying to sell a 1983 f250 4x4 with a junk engine, and after i saw
that i got to thinking, i could use the parts from this truck to install on
my 78 f150 4x4 and make it 3/4 ton.

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Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 07:45:32 -0700
From: Don Grossman
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Yet more Speedo questions! (transfer cases)

Tony Marino wrote:

> Ok, So I can accept the fact that my NP205 divorced might be a boat anchor.

I think I missed a post, what happened to the 205?

>
> I have a spare Spicer/Dana-24 in good shape as I have mentioned for my F-250.
> I measured everything up, and by the looks of things, the yokes for the
> input/output/front driveshaft all look like they are in the same spot as the
> 205, the mounting bolts are all the same on the transfer case hanger brackets,
> and the only problem I see in swapping these two cases is the speedometer
> hookups.

Usually the swap is done the other way around, but the 24 should fit right in.
You should be able to get the correct speedo cable housing somewhere I'm sure and
then just use a cut to length cable from any parts house.

After reading what I just typed it looks almost as helpful as a load of rocks in
a sinking boat ;)

>
> Thanks
>
> Tony
> tony pscico.com

- --
Don Grossman
duckdon pacific.net
99 Contour
63 F-100 4x4
43 GPW


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Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 10:45:29 -0400
From: James Oxley
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - RE:Highboy

Stephen Brown wrote:
>
> Brett, if the stock height for a high boy is 24" from bottom of the door to
> the ground w" tires, all you should have to do is add 4" to that #
> because of your 38"s. So anything over 28" is your lift(as long as you don't
> have a body lift) If nobody can give you the numbers you want, then that
> should work:
>

I don't think 3/4-1 tons came with 30" tires std. I think they were
more like 32's, NO????

OX
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Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 10:00:53 -0500
From: "Brett Yerks"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - RE:Highboy

I think you are correct OX. That is mainly why I would like to get the
frame to axle measurement if at all possible, it takes out some variables.
I'd like to get as exact as possible on where my truck sits at the moment.
Granted it will be +/- some because of different ages of springs etc. but
that doesn't bother me too much. I'll probably do what you said Stephen
anyway, just out of curiosity.

Brett
76 F250 4x4
78 F250 4x4 Supercab


> Stephen Brown wrote:
> >
> > Brett, if the stock height for a high boy is 24" from bottom of the door
to
> > the ground w" tires, all you should have to do is add 4" to that #
> > because of your 38"s. So anything over 28" is your lift(as long as you
don't
> > have a body lift) If nobody can give you the numbers you want, then that
> > should work:
> >
>
> I don't think 3/4-1 tons came with 30" tires std. I think they were
> more like 32's, NO????
>
> OX


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Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 11:14:46 -0400
From: James Oxley
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - RE:Highboy

Brett Yerks wrote:
>
> I think you are correct OX. That is mainly why I would like to get the
> frame to axle measurement if at all possible, it takes out some variables.
> I'd like to get as exact as possible on where my truck sits at the moment.
> Granted it will be +/- some because of different ages of springs etc. but
> that doesn't bother me too much. I'll probably do what you said Stephen
> anyway, just out of curiosity.
>

Well, if you find out, I'd like to know too. NJ lift laws allow 11
inches over stock door height for vehicles over 8400 (or 8600) lb GVWR.
Currently, my 78 Bronco sits at 35.5 ground to door height. If indeed,
the stock height of highboys was 24, then that means a 35" door height
truck (of some kind) is still legal. They claim one of the reasons they
won't allow to run a 44" tire anymore is that my truck is too high
(specifically bumpers), but if you can still have a truck as high as
mine, I beg to differ :-).

OX
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Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 10:23:40 -0500
From: "William S. Hart"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - late model hubs and rotors

> i remember some one saying that 75-86 spindles, rotors and
> hubs are the
> same,
> has anyone verified this?
> i'm trying to sell a 1983 f250 4x4 with a junk engine, and
> after i saw
> that i got to thinking, i could use the parts from this truck to
> install on
> my 78 f150 4x4 and make it 3/4 ton.
>


Except for the IFS on the 83 ... or are you talking about just changing from
the spindle out ? You'd still likely need different knuckles, but maybe not
...

Just my $.02
wish

96 Mustang GT 4.6L
73ish F100 4x4 6.4L
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Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 11:03:53 -0500
From: David.R.John deluxe.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Oil coming out the dipstick

Hey all,

On a 460 with a van pan in a truck (dipstick going into the middle of the
pan on drivers side), would oil come out the dipstick tube if the dipstick
was not in it tightly? The reason I ask is that my dipstick is by my
header and not attached to the engine (only where it goes into the pan) and
likes to vibrate out. Atleast that is what I hope it is. So I am
wondering if oil would come out on a healthy engine if the dipstick is out
or is this a sign of another issue where it is being "blown" out.

As some of you recall I reringed the motor in an effort to cure my blowby
due to my guess that the chrome rings put in it before had not seated
properly. Thanks again all!!!

David

78 F250 4x4 Supercab 460 C6 (swap is now complete and went great)
78 F250 4x4 400 (donor for the 4spd to C6 swap)

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Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 11:37:17 -0500
From: "William S. Hart"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Oil coming out the dipstick

would oil come out the dipstick tube if
> the dipstick
> was not in it tightly?

I've seen it happen before ... likely it just vibrates out and splatters a
bit, not really running out or being forced out ..


> or is this a sign of another issue where it is being "blown" out.
>

"blow by" is into the combustion chamber, this is on the side the oil's
supposed to be on ...

Be sure you have a PCV system hooked up and working right, or a vent at
least if its not actually hooked up, that way you're sure you've got all the
fumes and pressure out of the crank case ...


Any chance you can get that thing bolted even with the headers on ?
Sometimes its just a matter of bending it a little bit ...

Just my $.02
wish

96 Mustang GT 4.6L
73ish F100 4x4 6.4L
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Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 14:12:07 -0400
From: James Oxley
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - late model hubs and rotors

William S. Hart wrote:
>
> > i remember some one saying that 75-86 spindles, rotors and
> > hubs are the
> > same,
> > has anyone verified this?
> > i'm trying to sell a 1983 f250 4x4 with a junk engine, and
> > after i saw
> > that i got to thinking, i could use the parts from this truck to
> > install on
> > my 78 f150 4x4 and make it 3/4 ton.
> >
>
> Except for the IFS on the 83 ... or are you talking about just changing from
> the spindle out ? You'd still likely need different knuckles, but maybe not
> ...
>

Knuckles are different. Knuckles on later models have integral spider
(really no spider), where the older trucks have seperate spider.

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Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 13:07:54 -0500
From: David.R.John deluxe.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Clarification : Oil coming out the dipstick

I just want to clarify that the oil does not come out of the dipstick tube
at idle or low RPM's. But it will do it if I am on the freeway doing 70+
mph for extended periods while getting into the 4 barrels for passing etc.
The motor runs strong and revs up no problem, but if I get on it hard I
have oil sprayed all over the driverside of my truck from the fan and wind
blowing the oil around.

So I guess I am asking will oil come out of my dipstick tube under hard
driving conditions if the dipstick is out?

David

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Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 19:22:08 EDT
From: WEDIVE247 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 79, F-250 with sick 460

In a message dated 10/14/1999 10:13:02 AM EST, wish iastate.edu writes:


exact center of the hub on various cars throughout the parking lot to
establish an average contact patch size based on the calculated and measured
radii of the tire ? I'm really disappointed...I figured by now you'd have
also memorized all possible tire sizes and the different brands ability to
flex as the pressure was increased linearly ... that way we could predict
the exact rolling radius of the average BFG after driving for 20 min. on
both cloudy and sunny days ...
>>
Way too funny !!!!!!
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Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 20:01:36 EDT
From: WEDIVE247 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 1961 F-100 Power steering

Mark , Ive got a 64 and am tring to install power steering . Ive been told
77-79 gear boxes and columns should work . let me know how it goes with yours
. Steve
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Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 17:29:09 -0700 (PDT)
From: canzus seanet.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: FTE 61-79 64 F - I dunno

>. I have heard
>(although have not seen) that the 292 came with a regular
>3-speed (on the "tree") as well. Don't know if that's true.

Yes they do, mine came that way, but I converted it to a floor
shift because the linkage was junk, it had about 135degrees
of travel, 1st to 2nd gear....

>$200 is a deal for anything that runs!

Hell of a deal....
Steve & the Rockette
63 F100
72 Capri 2000, hers
73 Capri 2600, needs tube frame...
73 MGB GT, Our Toy
94 SHO, SWMBO's
97 Contour, Mine

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Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 21:09:36 EDT
From: Brazzadog aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: 78 F250 4x4 Steering

Kirk Baillie wrote:

>I'm am doing the P.S steering conversion on my 74 f250 Highboy 4x4 and
>I'm wondering since the truck is a highboy with the factory 4" lift,
>will the regular pitman arm off another 77-79 f250 4x4 work.

It might, but I'd go with an early '77 if you can find it cause it should
have basically the same suspension heigh. The '77 1/2 model might be the
same too, something changed mid-year but I can't remember what. A '78 or
'79 has an inch (maybe 2", I can't remember) lower suspension height. Guess
I can't remember much can I?

Ben Williams
'78 F-250
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Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 21:09:34 EDT
From: Brazzadog aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - RE: 78 F250 4x4 Steering

"Peters, Gary (G.R.)" wrote:

>Key factors to keep in mind are that the track bar and drag link should be
>parallel to each other and, ideally, parallel with the ground as well.
(snip)

I believe this is true. I also believe that track bars are only used on coil
sprung axles. If I understand correctly what track bars are, then this will
not apply to the leaf sprung F-250. Although, parallel steering geometry is
still important.

I can't remember the details, but I recall we were discussing a 4" lift that
came with a 2" riser block which leaves 2" of out-of-wackness and a trashed
cross-link end. This seems like the hallmark of a "budget" lift - the kind
of thing you get when you buy a lift "kit" as opposed to a lift "system".
Last I knew, 4" drop pitman arms were available from Rancho or someone. That
seems like a pretty elegant solution to me, but maybe the adjustable
crosslink is cheaper? If I had a choice I'd be inclined toward the seemingly
greater strength of the drop pitman arm. Bear in mind that I've never had my
F-250 frame deep in the mud and consequently have never felt the need for a
lift. FWIW, I'm speaking from the viewpoint of someone who has owned 3
leaf-sprung 4x4's over the last 15 years and who has worked for way too many
employers whose motto is "If it WAS a road, it IS a road". I'm sure somebody
will straighten me out if I'm out-of-wack myself.

Ben Williams
'78 F-250
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Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 21:09:35 EDT
From: Brazzadog aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: highboy

"Brett Yerks" wrote:

>Hi, I've got a favor to ask of anyone with a mid 70's highboy with the stock
>suspension. Could you please measure from the top of each axle to the
>bottom of the frame. I'm trying to figure out how much, if any, suspension
>lift my 76 may have.
>
>Thanks,
>Brett
>76 F250 4x4
>78 F250 4x4 Supercab

If memory serves me correctly, '78's (and late production '77's?) were
lowered 1" from what the '77 and earlier Highboys were. Sorry, I don't have
a Highboy to measure for you. : (

Ben Williams
'78 F-250

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Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 21:56:53 -0400
From: Tony Marino
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: highboy

At 09:09 PM 10/21/99 -0400, you wrote:
>"Brett Yerks" wrote:
>
>>Hi, I've got a favor to ask of anyone with a mid 70's highboy with the stock
>>suspension. Could you please measure from the top of each axle to the
>>bottom of the frame. I'm trying to figure out how much, if any, suspension
>>lift my 76 may have.

Bone stock, '76 F-250 Highboy--- 5 1/4 inches from top center of plate on
top of front leaf spring, to bottom of frame rail directly above.

www.pscico.com/~tony/pics/new/76tires3.jpg

Tony
tony pscico.com
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Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 20:10:31 -0600
From: Kirk Baillie
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - RE:Highboy

The tires that were on mine and are the same ones I see on all the other
f250's 4x4 are equal to about 30'-31"

Kirk Baillie
74 F250 4x4 Highboy
Stopping on a dime, thanks to the new brakes!

James Oxley wrote:
>
> Stephen Brown wrote:
> >
> > Brett, if the stock height for a high boy is 24" from bottom of the door to
> > the ground w" tires, all you should have to do is add 4" to that #
> > because of your 38"s. So anything over 28" is your lift(as long as you don't
> > have a body lift) If nobody can give you the numbers you want, then that
> > should work:
> >
>
> I don't think 3/4-1 tons came with 30" tires std. I think they were
> more like 32's, NO????
>
> OX
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Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 19:36:18 PDT
From: "Mark Mcknight"
Subject: [none]

Well boys I'm back! I've got a new toy!
I know this doesn't go with the rules of the list but, I've purchased an 85
ford f-150 explorer, 2wd... The guy that I got it from had recently had a
new oil pump, timing chain, and gaskets put on it. it only has 150k on it,
And on the way up north the man said, "It just started knocking" when at low
RPM's it really knocks bad, and when you stomp on the gas, it thumps bad,
but not that bad. The oil pressure goes right to normal, and after sitting
for a few it goes down to nothing. When ya rev the engine it goes up
slowly..... I am confused as to what this may be :o) any sugestions would be
amazing, as to I am baffled with this

Thanks Guys!!
Mark

78' F-100
85' F-150 explorer

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Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 19:36:28 PDT
From: "Mark Mcknight"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - motor knock

Well boys I'm back! I've got a new toy!
I know this doesn't go with the rules of the list but, I've purchased an 85
ford f-150 explorer, 2wd... The guy that I got it from had recently had a
new oil pump, timing chain, and gaskets put on it. it only has 150k on it,
And on the way up north the man said, "It just started knocking" when at low
RPM's it really knocks bad, and when you stomp on the gas, it thumps bad,
but not that bad. The oil pressure goes right to normal, and after sitting
for a few it goes down to nothing. When ya rev the engine it goes up
slowly..... I am confused as to what this may be :o) any sugestions would be
amazing, as to I am baffled with this

Thanks Guys!!
Mark

78' F-100
85' F-150 explorer

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Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 19:55:27 PDT
From: "Don Jones"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - RE: Speedo Change over

I saw a neat way of getting a high speed speedo a while back.
A guy used a canadian (metric) speedo and used an adaptor that he got from a
ski-doo snowmobile. It seems that for a while they used the same speedo on
canadian and american units and just had an inline adaptor in the cable that
changed the gearing between kilometres and miles. Anyway, his 160km/h
speedometer became a 160 mph speedo (it was in a Ch*vy, but i think fords
would be pretty much the same.

Don Jones
1970 f-250 4x4 ~Fordzilla~

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Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 23:08:55 -0400
From: Tony Marino
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - RE: Speedo Change over

Well, I just got an aswer to my question that I posted to the list-- I
found a place on the internet:

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.a1electric.com/

that creates custom speedo cables, gearing, adapters, etc.. I dropped them
an e-mail asking them about a cable for my transfer case swap-- in a matter
of 1/2 an hour, they replied to me telling me exactly what I had, what
style, and they would make me a cable as lon gas I told them how long I
needed it, for a grand total of $25 dollars... I don't know what a cable
should cost, but I tend to consider that a cheap fix for me. I also
needed a new cable for my '70 F-100 4x4 that no parts stores seemed to
carry, so I'm having them make me one for that too.

We'll see how it goes when it arrives, but with the recent posts about
speedo cables and gears and such, I figured I'd jump the gun and give out
this little tidbit of information.

Tony
tony pscico.com
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At 07:55 PM 10/21/99 -0700, you wrote:
>I saw a neat way of getting a high speed speedo a while back.
>A guy used a canadian (metric) speedo and used an adaptor that he got from a
>ski-doo snowmobile. It seems that for a while they used the same speedo on
>canadian and american units and just had an inline adaptor in the cable that
>changed the gearing between kilometres and miles. Anyway, his 160km/h
>speedometer became a 160 mph speedo (it was in a Ch*vy, but i think fords
>would be pretty much the same.
>
>Don Jones
>1970 f-250 4x4 ~Fordzilla~
>
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Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 00:54:21 -0400 (EDT)
From: crewcab altavista.net
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: 64 F - I dunno

'64 F100's were available with a Ford-O-Matic which
has the three-on-the-tree, I have one. I dunno about
the 'no pick-up at all' comment, way back when I could
stomp on it and it would take off.

I don't push it quite so hard now that there's 200K on
the engine, it's quite tempting though, cause I know what
it can do.

Dad always says that it got 11 mpg loaded, unloaded, it
didn't matter. Of course mine is hauling a second cab
around full time too.

I hate starting a new thread in the middle of another
one, but how can you be consistent in fueling up on
a truck with that huge fuel inlet? I have to hold on
to the nozzle the entire time, I can't latch the
nozzle and walk away. Maybe after I install a new
filler neck rubber hose, I'll be more inclined to try
letting it fill up into the neck.

Jeff '64 F100 CrewCab 292 Ford-O-Matic
- -- -- -- -- snip -- -- -- --
Probably what you were looking at was a F100 - they
have the 292.

The engine is a bit of a dog in terms of acceleration
(i.e., no pick-up at all), but it has plenty of torque
for pulling/hauling. Runs fine on the highway - I get
about 15+ mpg.

I have heard (although have not seen) that the 292 came
with a regular 3-speed (on the "tree") as well. Don't
know if that's true.

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Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 02:26:56 EDT
From: ETRMK aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 78 F-250 4x4 Steering

Thanks for all the input on my steering prob.F guys. I think im gonna go....


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