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 ford-trucks.com (61-79-list-digest) To: 61-79-list-digest ford-trucks.com Subject: 61-79-list-digest V3 #379 Reply-To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com Sender: owner-61-79-list-digest ford-trucks.com Errors-To: owner-61-79-list-digest ford-trucks.com Precedence: bulk 61-79-list-digest Monday, October 18 1999 Volume 03 : Number 379 ======================================================================= Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1961-1979 Trucks and Vans Visit our web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com/ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - To unsubscribe, send email to: majordomo ford-trucks.com with the words "unsubscribe 61-79-list-digest" in the body of the message. ======================================================================= In this issue: Re: FTE 61-79 - 460 police RE: FTE 61-79 - 460 police Re: FTE 61-79 - 460 police RE: FTE 61-79 - Steering setup ... more questions FTE 61-79 - RE: Speedo year FTE 61-79 - engine swap RE: FTE 61-79 - Dana front RE: FTE 61-79 - tweety's ticker RE: FTE 61-79 - hows this for swapping RE: FTE 61-79 - Body stuff RE: FTE 61-79 - IFS Install RE: FTE 61-79 - RE: Tweety's ticker actually about speedo year RE: FTE 61-79 - Matching Tranny to Engine... RE: FTE 61-79 - stalling problem(kinda long) RE: FTE 61-79 - Tranny choices for 460 RE: FTE 61-79 - engine numbers RE: FTE 61-79 - engine swap RE: FTE 61-79 - What engine? Re: FTE 61-79 - Tweety's Ticker FTE 61-79 - What engine? FTE 61-79 - 1964, F-600 questions... RE: FTE 61-79 - My Web Page Re: FTE 61-79 - W heads RE: FTE 61-79 - 1964, F-600 questions... FTE 61-79 - flexible tubing? Re: FTE 61-79 - flexible tubing? RE: FTE 61-79 - flexible tubing? FTE 61-79 - Re: What Engine? RE: FTE 61-79 - W heads RE: FTE 61-79 - flexible tubing? RE: FTE 61-79 - flexible tubing? RE: FTE 61-79 - flexible tubing? FTE 61-79 - It's good to touch the green green grass of home! RE: FTE 61-79 - flexible tubing? RE: FTE 61-79 - flexible tubing? RE: FTE 61-79 - It's good to touch the green green grass of home! Re: FTE 61-79 - 1964, F-600 questions... FTE 61-79 - 460 police interceptor Re: FTE 61-79 - It's good to touch the green green grass of home! Re: FTE 61-79 - flexible tubing? FTE 61-79 - Painting Re: FTE 61-79 - Tweety's Ticker FTE 61-79 - 460 Manifolds Re: FTE 61-79 - flexible tubing? Re: FTE 61-79 - It's good to touch the green green grass of home! RE: FTE 61-79 - RE: Truck 385 series Now How they rev. RE: FTE 61-79 - tweety's ticker RE: FTE 61-79 - Matching Tranny to Engine... RE: FTE 61-79 - RE: Tweety's ticker actually about speedo year Re: FTE 61-79 - stalling problem(kinda long) RE: FTE 61-79 - It's good to touch the green green grass of home! Re: FTE 61-79 - tweety's ticker Re: FTE 61-79 - It's good to touch the green green grass of home! FTE 61-79 - Web page updated - again FTE 61-79 - RE: Need mounts for radiator support Re: FTE 61-79 - tweety's ticker Re: FTE 61-79 - Web page updated - again FTE 61-79 - In Seattle Re: FTE 61-79 - 1964, F-600 questions... ======================================================================= ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 12:20:28 +0200 (MET DST) From: Bas van der Veer Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 460 police > I dont have any experience with this motor but i have heard it called the > "Police Interceptor". Friend of mine just told me that it came with a hotter > cam and an oil cooler.Hes not sure if there is more to it than that. I asked > him if they were put out pre-72 with the high comp heads.. but he said if it > is pre-72 it would have been a 429 PI. so basically the most important feature of that engine is its name :) .. I wonder if it says police interceptor on the valve cover! == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 07:21:11 -0400 From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)" Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - 460 police I don't know all the particulars but.....it did have a special clutch fan assy which can be obtained at auto parts under that description "Police" which is made for higher rpm use. - -- Michigan, Pot Hole Jumping, 78 Bronco Loving, Gary http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.thewowfactor.com/bigbroncos/detail.cfm?detailid=167 - -- > anyone know what the 460 police is? Just a different tuning? == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 05:51:22 -0600 From: "Danger" Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 460 police > so basically the most important feature of that engine is its name :) .. > I wonder if it says police interceptor on the valve cover! ................ I'd give the oil cooler a bit of credit on the police interceptor engines. Seems like they also used solid lifters rather than hydraulic. Danger == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 08:08:42 -0400 From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)" Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Steering setup ... more questions The only reason you need an adjustable drag link it to get the steering box centered again which is important for good handling. Virtually all steering boxes of the sector, recirculating ball type have an excentric sector which is tighter in the center of travel than at the ends to give the best control in that position so you can go straight down the road without any wiggles. Yes, especially on a 4x4, you can get by without centering it because you can't use the whole range of the box anyway usually but.........it will have handling problems if you do this or at least the potential is there. On solid axle 4x4's there are two ways to center the steering box: 1..Install an adjustable drag link with enough range to cover the changes 2..Bend the track bar or straighten it to reposition the axle within it's stock range but... Beware not to get the axle out of alignment with the chassis. This alignement is called "Offset" which is latterally or left to right or sideways or tracking which puts the rear wheel exactly in the same track as the front when moving in an absolutely straight line (some have different tracks so they have to be the same offset on both sides in that case :-)) I used option two in a stock setup to "Correct" a misaligned axle and also put the wheel back on center but in a conversion the distance may not be compatible so the drag link would be necessary. Notice in all this I never mentioned the steering "Wheel". You can pull it off and recenter it but the box will not be centered. To test the center of the box you must rotate the wheel from lock to lock (with linkage removed so it won't interfere) and calculate it's central position then pull the wheel if necessary and recenter it without moving the column. This syncronizes the wheel with the box. Now you can see what has to be done to bring them to center with the chassis etc.. As I said, you can get by without doing this but you will never have good handling until the box is syncronized to center when the vehicle is going straight. When I take a vehicle in to have it aligned I always leave instructions that the steering wheel must not be removed to realign it. If it comes back and the wheel is off then I know the chassis is damaged in some way and parts need to be replaced. I also always double check to make sure they followed my instructions too :-) - -- Michigan, Pot Hole Jumping, 78 Bronco Loving, Gary http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.thewowfactor.com/bigbroncos/detail.cfm?detailid=167 - -- Am I going to need a adjustable drag link or is the NAPA one good enough. I don't want to order unless I have to, because I live in Alaska and will eat it in the shipping. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 08:40:30 -0400 From: Steve Schaefer Subject: FTE 61-79 - RE: Speedo year > My 76 2wd has idiot lights, and 100 mph speedo. My 77 2wd has guages, and 85 mph speedo. I have a cluster from a 79 4wd that has idiot lights and 85 mph guage. I also have a 75 4wd cluster with idiot lights and 100mph speedo. Steve S 76 F-350 Crewcab flatbed 77 F-250 Supercab 4x4 (yellow/purple) http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Shop/8663/ > > I have an instrument cluster from a 75, and a complete 76 4x4 truck in > my driveway, both are full gauges and both have 100 Mph speedo's. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 08:03:33 -0500 From: "Eric Washburn" Subject: FTE 61-79 - engine swap Here's a problem I need solved. I have a '67 F100 with a 240 and 3-spd tranny. I want to put in a fuel-injected 300 or a 302 from a truck or a Lincoln. What all would I need so that this is possible? == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 09:12:05 -0400 From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)" Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Dana front By tapping the pin through the other side this can be done but since one hole on that ring will amount to less than 0.010" axial movement I would guess it's not really necessary. This has occured to me on occasion too but I've never felt it was necessary. These bearings are pretty tolerant of free play. I've run them very loose and many mechanics at tire places don't understand how to properly adjust them and tend to leave them way too tight as some on this list have done and they seem to survive. I now run them at zero and have only lost one bearing in my life which is probably due to bad grease, loose fit and 200k miles along with some water contamination. When I mess up I do a good job though :-( - -- Michigan, Pot Hole Jumping, 78 Bronco Loving, Gary http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.thewowfactor.com/bigbroncos/detail.cfm?detailid=167 - -- > The lock ring can be flipped over to give you a "1/2 hole" if you need > it. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 08:32:51 -0400 From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)" Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - tweety's ticker With stock size tires that would be about right :-) I have 33's with 3.5's and run around 2k at 60 by my calculations. 3k is not out of range for a torque engine, 6200 is :-) The main reason you don't want to run that rpm is economy. The 400 will pull happily at 2k even loaded so when you spin it higher you are wasting a lot of motor and fuel. - -- Michigan, Pot Hole Jumping, 78 Bronco Loving, Gary http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.thewowfactor.com/bigbroncos/detail.cfm?detailid=167 - -- > Man! My Bronco at 2500 I'm doing 55 & at 3000 is just barely > hitting 70. and > they say a 400 is a low revving motor! It's suposto have 3.5 > gears (per the > axle tag) though Ive never checked it. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 09:18:11 -0400 From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)" Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - hows this for swapping You can also just swap in a 460, pull the computer stuff and run it like an older truck but in either case you may have some legal issues to consider. Check with your insurance company before swapping bodies to a different year or style. There are grandfather clauses in all contracts that can deprive you of even liability coverage if you tamper with the vehicle and the insurance company is under no legal obligation to tell you about them. Most companies require a state cirtificate of safety for these types of modifications. Swapping engines has little impact in most cases but even that can have some impact. I asked my agent before I did my swap and he said as long as the swap is done safely and is not responsible for the accident it won't enter into the picture but that's just one company and one situation. Better check first :-) - -- Michigan, Pot Hole Jumping, 78 Bronco Loving, Gary http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.thewowfactor.com/bigbroncos/detail.cfm?detailid=167 - -- > awhile i came up with my own question,,,will a 92-96 F-series > body fit on a > 79 chassis?? If it would it'd be the perfect solution,,,I'm a > big fan of the > 92-96's looks i just hate vehicle computers. So my idea is == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 08:16:54 -0500 From: "William S. Hart" Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Body stuff > Howdy ya'll, I am just about ready to put the motor back in my new tube > frame, and I was wonderin, where I can get some new body mounts, > I was told > I could use hocky pucks? is this true? You probably COULD, but I wouldn't recommend it ... the rubber in hockey pucks isn't nearly as flexible as that found on motor mounts ... at first this seems good, but actually the pucks tear much easier .. also when they are cold they get pretty brittle and could crack based on the engine vibrations ... and while you're trying to fit one in there, if you drop it on your head you will really be not very happy (but it'll sound cool at work when they ask about the bruise :) Also, I would like to > know if a Borg > warner T-5 5 speed tranny will bolt up good to the 302 4 barrel > in the old > 78'? The short answer ? Yes, with issues. There are different input shaft lengths, but there are all kinds of ways to get it to work, this is very popular in the 'stang crowd, check out www.mustangworks.com I think they had an article on it... remember these are internal shifters though, if the hole doesn't line up you may have some other issues too.... > I am hoping to touch the 125 mph zone with the beast! You shouldn't need the OD to do this, depending on your gearing of course ... why not put a T-56 6spd in there, then you can hit 125 and still have another OD left :) Just my $.02 wish 96 Mustang GT 4.6L 73ish F100 4x4 6.4L http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 08:23:11 -0500 From: "William S. Hart" Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - IFS Install > O.K. did the unthinkable and had a MustangII IFS installed in my '62 > Unibody. Went to the dual master cylinder and the 11" Granda > SO much smoother, but ride hight is a major problem. Installed > the springs > for the 5.0 already, but not enought to clear the 235's. What year 5.0 are they for ? the 94+ used a slightly longer spring ... and rumor is that the 99's have even more ride height ... not sure if they use the same spring or not, but I have a set that I can measure if you know the diameters you need ... > anybody know the > weight difference between a 292 and say a 302 or 351? > I would guess its not much ... check www.wrljet.com and see if they list the weights for the 292, I know they list the 351 weight and the difference between that and the 302, so that should be easy enough to find.... Just my $.02 wish 96 Mustang GT 4.6L 73ish F100 4x4 6.4L http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 08:25:08 -0500 From: "William S. Hart" Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - RE: Tweety's ticker actually about speedo year > I have an instrument cluster from a 75, and a complete 76 4x4 truck in > my driveway, both are full gauges and both have 100 Mph speedo's. The > cluster I have has crumbly and broken plastic on the back where the > light go, can I pull the speedo out of it and put it in my 78 cluster? > It's a big 4x4 but it will still do 100+. > You didn't mention whether you had lights or gauges in your 78 ... if you have gauges it should be no problem, if you have lights, then you may have an issue with the under dash wiring not being quite right... but with a "parts" truck that could be remedied too ... Just my $.02 wish 96 Mustang GT 4.6L 73ish F100 4x4 6.4L http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 09:26:31 -0400 From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)" Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Matching Tranny to Engine... The swap you mention will cost some in any case. The FE has a round tranny flange and is different from every other engine. All FE's are the same though. 460/429 and 351M/400 use the same tranny and 302, 351W, 351C & I-6, 300 use the same tranny but these groups can't be mixed. The C-4 has a separate bell housing and can be adapted to most of these engines with the exception, possibley, of the big block pattern. If you put in something other than the FE family or I-6 you will have to change drive shafts, cross members, engine mounts etc.. - -- Michigan, Pot Hole Jumping, 78 Bronco Loving, Gary http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.thewowfactor.com/bigbroncos/detail.cfm?detailid=167 - -- > Question is: how interchangable are the Ford V-8's of that > era? Do the FE > blocks share the same bolt pattern with the 351W V-8? And > where do the > Cleveland's fit in? Are they the same pattern, or do they > have their own > bell housing pattern? == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 09:28:42 -0400 From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)" Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - stalling problem(kinda long) WE all have differing views on this but I would stay away from the Holleys myself. Carter, Rochester, Edlebrock all make better mouse traps for trucks :-) - -- Michigan, Pot Hole Jumping, 78 Bronco Loving, Gary http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.thewowfactor.com/bigbroncos/detail.cfm?detailid=167 - -- > not. Now i have pieces missing in the carb that nobody sells > anymore,,,,I've > been looking for an excuse to put a 4bbl holly on there, be > careful what you > wish for,,, == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 09:31:28 -0400 From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)" Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Tranny choices for 460 I believe this is answered already but the I-6 is a "small block" pattern and the 460 is a "big block" pattern. You have to get the correct tranny too :-( 302 will work as will 351W or C :-) - -- Michigan, Pot Hole Jumping, 78 Bronco Loving, Gary http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.thewowfactor.com/bigbroncos/detail.cfm?detailid=167 - -- > I have a 300 I6/C6 set up in my 79 F100 4x2. What tranny will fit with > the 460? The C6 has worked so well with the 300 I was looking > for a 302 > but this motor is available and I started thinking........ == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 08:31:55 -0500 From: "William S. Hart" Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - engine numbers > I pulled the 390 out of my 66 F100 to rebuild and was wondering > how to id it > to find out what year it is and if it was a truck or car block? > also want to > know if the heads are truck heads or ? Okay, first thing to do is find "How to rebuild big block fords" by Steve Christ...its got almost all of that stuff in htere ... quickly though : Engine, check for the casting of a 352 backwards under the driver's side water jacket...if its a 105 its a truck block if its a 352 its a car block, when we say "truck" and "car" though truck means greater than 1 ton rating ... a "medium" duty truck ... Heads : check between the middle exhaust ports ... seems like they hide them there ... in this case a T for the 4th digit will indicate truck heads, meaning light duty this time ... Intake, should have a part number on it as well .. All these part numbers break down like this : C first alpha = decade (C=60's, D=70's, etc (works both ways from there)) 9 second number = year in decade (9= 9th year) so (C9xx = 69) T third alpha = line part was designed for (A=full size car, T=truck, a full list can be found various places, I think stockman has one on his website ???) E fourth aplha = part location ... E= engine C=chassis etc. so you can at least get the years off of the parts now at least ... Just my $.02 wish 96 Mustang GT 4.6L 73ish F100 4x4 6.4L http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 08:35:50 -0500 From: "William S. Hart" Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - engine swap > Here's a problem I need solved. I have a '67 F100 with a 240 and 3-spd > tranny. I want to put in a fuel-injected 300 or a 302 from a truck or a > Lincoln. What all would I need so that this is possible? > A better idea of what your goal is ? There is lots involved in swapping a 302 for an I6, or so I'm lead to believe ... a 300 should however bolt right in ... as for the fuel injection portions of it ... there is lots out there to help you with the 302 swap in this case (even an article on the FTE website!), and probably not so much to help you with the 300, not to mention the number of aftermarket parts for a 302 is astronomical ... at any rate, you really need to decide where you want to spend most of your time I think ... whether you want to swap it all in one easy movement and play with wiring, or swap the motor mounts and tranny(?!?) and everything and then play with some wiring ... Just my $.02 wish 96 Mustang GT 4.6L 73ish F100 4x4 6.4L http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 08:48:49 -0400 From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)" Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - What engine? I used to drain the oil every spring in my old 352 and the crank case would have about a gallon of water in it. Put new oil in it and run it all summer as a wrecker around the place. Did this for several years and it always started and always ran well, never knocked. I have no idea where the water came from. It was not coolant and it had an air cleaner and hood on it and all the other normal stuff to plug holes but ever spring.........same thing??? - -- Michigan, Pot Hole Jumping, 78 Bronco Loving, Gary http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.thewowfactor.com/bigbroncos/detail.cfm?detailid=167 - -- > I've just acquired a 71' F250 with a 352 & c-6 trans. The > engine has water > in the oil == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 09:38:32 EDT From: Bad4dFilly aol.com Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Tweety's Ticker In a message dated 10/16/1999 12:25:32 AM !!!First Boot!!!, JUMPINFORD aol.com writes: > Lets see: F-350 - F-150 460 - 400 33's - 33's longbed - shortbed >> Who's taller????? =P *~*~Lisa and Envy~*~* *~*~Silly boys......trucks are for GIRLS!~*~* == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 09:55:24 -0700 From: "O'Connor" Subject: FTE 61-79 - What engine? Stephen, You asked what engine to put into a 71 F250! Since the 352 wasn't used in 71, I would suggest a 390. Everyone seems to feel that it gets about the same mileage as a 352/360; but has more pep and more potential. 390's were producted in the 71's and still very accessible. Since it's an FE style block, it should bolt right in with no problems. Tim 66F100 SWB Custom Cab 352 stock O/D and P/S == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 17:19:42 +0100 From: "Bill Brox" Subject: FTE 61-79 - 1964, F-600 questions... Hi all. I saw an ad in a paper here in Norway, some guy had a Ford 600 for sale, and when I called him it was a F-600, so now I am curious of how it looks like. Does it have the same cab as the F-100 to F-350 ? Also, he said the truck had a gross vehicle weight of 11500 kg, which means 25330 lbs,,, is this correct ? Or have I missunderstood... (weight of truck + weight of cargo) Then he said it had a 6 cyl. gas engine,,,, he thought it was about 4 liter displacement,,, what kind of engine coiuld this be ? Can anyone tell me a little about this truck.... so silly it is so late in the fall here, if spring I could have ended up with the truck I wanted and needed for heavy cargos ? Well, enough for now... Bill Brox == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 10:27:19 -0400 From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)" Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - My Web Page Nice looking truck! We can only hope to have one that nice some day :-) - -- Michigan, Pot Hole Jumping, 78 Bronco Loving, Gary http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.thewowfactor.com/bigbroncos/detail.cfm?detailid=167 - -- > 78 F150 4x4, "The Great Pumpkin" (if you see it you will know why) == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 11:50:04 -0500 From: "Don Yerhot" Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - W heads Same heads from 69 to 74. The valves were 1.84 and 1.54 as opposed to 1.78 and 1.45 for the 75 and later. The early heads also had 8 bolts on each side as opposed to 6 for 75 and later. In 77 they switched from rail rockers to pedestal and also increased the size of the combustion chamber, I believe from 64cc to 69. Because of the wedge combustion chamber, these engines can run some fairly high compression without predetonation. I'm running KB Silvolites with 75 heads, or about 10.8-1. I get by with 93 octane gas and a can of 104 every other tank. I was running a 71 351C 2V with 9.0-1 that pinged like crazy. I agree, 351W's are great little engines. DonY 65F250-351W 74F100-351W is a small block, everything you know about a 302 will be good,,, except for the few differences... among them are higher torque specifications on head, rod and main bearing bolts + others... As far as I know 351 W 2v and 4v heads are the same, only the intake was different. If you want big valves, be sure to find a 351 W from a car, and at least not the 1975 truck head,,, or later car heads.... No problems at least to put in the large valves from the early years in those heads from later years with small valves. No multiple carbs offered from factory.... Remember, the 351W engine has same size main bearings as 429 and 460,,,, rather big crank.... I wrote a post a little while ago about the 351W,,, but can't remember when.... How much hp do you want, and where do you want the torque to be ? I love this engine.... nice Ford stuff.> == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 13:21:09 -0400 From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)" Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - 1964, F-600 questions... The 62 I had was a cab over or tilt cab design with 330 Fe engine, Clark 5 speed, two speed rear axle and a stout capacity. I could fill it higher than the cab with fire wood and it wasn't even beginning to sag. I loved that truck, wish I still had it :-( We called it the "Biggie" after the name my daughter dubbed due to it's size over the other vehicles we had around. Had a 16' bed on it I made myself out of another truck bed I got at the junk yard. Got it for $400 and hauled wood for two years with it while I was laid off from Ford. Darned thing got 9 mpg too most of the time. - -- Michigan, Pot Hole Jumping, 78 Bronco Loving, Gary http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.thewowfactor.com/bigbroncos/detail.cfm?detailid=167 - -- > I saw an ad in a paper here in Norway, some guy had a Ford > 600 for sale, > and when I called him it was a F-600, so now I am curious of > how it looks > like. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 13:27:57 EDT From: BDIJXS aol.com Subject: FTE 61-79 - flexible tubing? Does anyone know where to look for some flexible metal tubing, 2-1/2" diameter? I need to temporarily replace some exhaust pipe until I can get the truck down to the muffler shop......apparently its illegal for automotive use here in Colorado..... CJ == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 13:40:55 EDT From: TBeeee aol.com Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - flexible tubing? In a message dated 10/18/99 1:38:19 PM Eastern Daylight Time, BDIJXS aol.com writes: > Does anyone know where to look for some flexible metal tubing, 2-1/2" > diameter? Doesn't Whitney's sell this stuff? Stock Man 1967 Galaxie 500 Convertible (HELP!---I need 15 x5 factory rims) 1967 F-250 FE 390 4wd 1966 F-250 I6 240 2wd LWB Flare Side http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.hometown.aol.com/tbeeee == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 10:51:38 -0700 From: "Southerland, Rich" Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - flexible tubing? They do, but by the time it got there... If you are indeed going to get it fixed properly, why not just drive the truck to the shop? Is it THAT bad? Flexible conduit (electrical) isn't made that large is it? - -----Original Message----- From: TBeeee aol.com [mailto:TBeeee aol.com] Sent: Monday, October 18, 1999 10:41 AM To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - flexible tubing? In a message dated 10/18/99 1:38:19 PM Eastern Daylight Time, BDIJXS aol.com writes: > Does anyone know where to look for some flexible metal tubing, 2-1/2" > diameter? Doesn't Whitney's sell this stuff? Stock Man 1967 Galaxie 500 Convertible (HELP!---I need 15 x5 factory rims) 1967 F-250 FE 390 4wd 1966 F-250 I6 240 2wd LWB Flare Side http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.hometown.aol.com/tbeeee == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 10:56:33 -0700 From: Marv Miller Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: What Engine? Stephen Brown wrote: >I've just acquired a 71' F250 with a 352 & c-6 trans. The engine has water >in the oil. Does anyone have any "real suggestions on what would >cause water in the oil? Only FE I ever saw with water & oil crossed up had ATF in the coolant. Sure was rough on all the hoses. We all should know how THIS happened. (Oops, Lisa & Envy, the tranny cooler in the bottom radiator tank spring an internal leak). To answer Stephen's question , build that 352 into a 390, after having the block leak checked. - -- Marv Miller mailto:ae722 lafn.org == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 13:10:47 -0500 From: "William S. Hart" Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - W heads > In 77 they switched from rail > rockers to > pedestal and also increased the size of the combustion chamber, We're talkin W's here right ? The 69's that we have at home have the pedestal rockers on them ... not the rails like I have in the FE ... they are non adjustable though ... > Because of the wedge combustion chamber, these engines can run > some fairly > high compression without predetonation. I'm running KB Silvolites with 75 > heads, or about 10.8-1. I get by with 93 octane gas and a can of > 104 every > other tank. What cam do you have on this ? Lots of times builders compensate for excessive compression using a big cam to "bleed off" the compression ratio a bit ... I was running a 71 351C 2V with 9.0-1 that pinged > like crazy. I > agree, 351W's are great little engines. > Wow, I've never had 9:1 ping ... my 9.6+ (FE) is pinging with too much advance, but at 8deg initial I can run it without pinging or anything on 89 octane (ethanol)... Just my $.02 wish 96 Mustang GT 4.6L 73ish F100 4x4 6.4L http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 13:12:26 -0500 From: "William S. Hart" Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - flexible tubing? > Does anyone know where to look for some flexible metal tubing, 2-1/2" > diameter? I need to temporarily replace some exhaust pipe until > I can get the > truck down to the muffler shop......apparently its illegal for > automotive use > here in Colorado..... > Maybe for automotive, but not for semi's :) Check with a truck shop, they should have some ... Want me to ship you some ? ;) Just my $.02 wish 96 Mustang GT 4.6L 73ish F100 4x4 6.4L http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 13:58:02 -0400 From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)" Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - flexible tubing? I drove mine to the shop with just the headers on it.......WHAT A GAS!!! Couldn't help stepping on it once in a while :-) Places I've asked about this say the same thing, they leak and present a serious asphyxiation problem so no one sells it due to liability. I don't know if JC whittney even has it any more? If you drive cautiously you should be able to get by the Gendarmes (can you believe this word was in the spell checker?) or at least make a good case for yourself for permission to continue to the shop if they stop you :-) - -- Michigan, Pot Hole Jumping, 78 Bronco Loving, Gary http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.thewowfactor.com/bigbroncos/detail.cfm?detailid=167 - -- > Does anyone know where to look for some flexible metal tubing, 2-1/2" > diameter? I need to temporarily replace some exhaust pipe > until I can get the > truck down to the muffler shop......apparently its illegal > for automotive use > here in Colorado..... == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 13:37:15 -0500 From: "William S. Hart" Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - flexible tubing? > I drove mine to the shop with just the headers on it....... I think we've all done this, or seen this done before, but I think I know what Jeff's worried about ... he just put this really cool motor in his truck, the whole thing is new, and he's got the Sanderson block hugger headers that fit against the block (imagine that), but stop right about the oil pan ... breakin and all that stuff with an open exhaust would be ... well loud and I'd be worried about cracking a valve or something with an exhaust that short and a motor that's never fired before ... Did I get close to your reasoning there Jeff ? Just my $.02 wish 96 Mustang GT 4.6L 73ish F100 4x4 6.4L http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 11:56:00 -0700 From: "Deacon" Subject: FTE 61-79 - It's good to touch the green green grass of home! Yes it's true my friends. After 10 months of living in a motel, we are back in our house!!! For those new to the list and for the those who've forgotten Ol' Deacon allow me to recap. The day after last Thanksgiving a single fallen candle gutted our house. I can't begin to explain how much it sucks having a fire. First there's the useless effort to fight the fire, then the realization of loss, the endless stream of contractors all trying to get a piece of the insurance pie and the insurance adjuster doing their best to cheat you out of your claim. It's an experience that can bring a person down. Through all the battles one joy kept me strong. Christmas was a few days away when I wrote to Ken that Christmas wasn't coming for us. No tree, no lights, no presents for the kids. Ken's reply came back "You haven't checked your P.O. Box. Go check your P.O. Box now!" So off to the Post Office went the wife and I. Opening the envelope I was expecting to find a nice gift. My knees went weak, my hands started shaking and my eyes filled with tears. I couldn't tell Teddi what was sent to us, I could only hand the card with the list of names from FTE friends and the $750 for her to see for herself. Some people said they couldn't help because time were hard. Thank you! It wasn't the money (though it did make Christmas a lot happier). It is something that lasted much longer! A day hasn't gone by that I haven't thanked God for your thoughtfulness. God showed me as he did David, We are not alone!!! FTE RULES!!!! Later! Deacon deconblu ford-trucks.com deconblu earthlink.net http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://home.earthlink.net/~deconblu/ ================================================================ '76 F350 FE360 C6 \ '73 F100 302 C4 '66 Mustang 289 C4 \ '89 Aerostar Who cares! ============================================== Depression is merely anger without enthusiasm == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 11:57:33 -0700 From: "Southerland, Rich" Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - flexible tubing? If that's the case, then forget what I said about just going for it. I assumed he just had a bad piece, not that he had open headers. - -----Original Message----- From: William S. Hart [mailto:wish iastate.edu] Sent: Monday, October 18, 1999 11:37 AM To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - flexible tubing? > I drove mine to the shop with just the headers on it....... I think we've all done this, or seen this done before, but I think I know what Jeff's worried about ... he just put this really cool motor in his truck, the whole thing is new, and he's got the Sanderson block hugger headers that fit against the block (imagine that), but stop right about the oil pan ... breakin and all that stuff with an open exhaust would be ... well loud and I'd be worried about cracking a valve or something with an exhaust that short and a motor that's never fired before ... Did I get close to your reasoning there Jeff ? Just my $.02 wish 96 Mustang GT 4.6L 73ish F100 4x4 6.4L http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 15:12:50 -0400 From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)" Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - flexible tubing? I considered that too but the headers point downward and have about 36" of tubing in them so since hot goes up and cool goes down I figured it would be ok :-) My headers are wrapped too so there is a little insulation :-) Dragsters run shorter pipes than that and they point up to boot and apparently don't have problems so I think the problems we hear about are mostly theoretical anyway. I can see an exhaust valve moving a little on a supper hot engine if there is much air movement around it when you shut it down but convection isn't likely to change temps fast enough to do any harm I would think? Not really arguing with you on this, I'm a little leary of it too, just not convinced that with headers on it we have to be overly concerned. Probably more likely to catch the truck on fire before we hurt the valves :-) - -- Michigan, Pot Hole Jumping, 78 Bronco Loving, Gary http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.thewowfactor.com/bigbroncos/detail.cfm?detailid=167 - -- > well loud and I'd be worried about cracking a valve or > something with an > exhaust that short and a motor that's never fired before ... == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 14:34:18 -0500 From: "William S. Hart" Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - It's good to touch the green green grass of home! > Yes it's true my friends. After 10 months of living in a motel, we are > back in our house!!! > Congratulations ? Anyway its great that you're back in your house, and you'll have lots to be thankful for this year for sure ... I hope you can get "settled" in quickly and enjoy things as they should be ... Just my $.02 wish 96 Mustang GT 4.6L 73ish F100 4x4 6.4L http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 22:09:44 +0100 From: "Bill Brox" Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 1964, F-600 questions... 9 mpg empty or full load ? Bill > > The 62 I had was a cab over or tilt cab design with 330 Fe engine, Clark 5 > speed, two speed rear axle and a stout capacity. I could fill it higher > than the cab with fire wood and it wasn't even beginning to sag. I loved > that truck, wish I still had it :-( We called it the "Biggie" after the > name my daughter dubbed due to it's size over the other vehicles we had > around. Had a 16' bed on it I made myself out of another truck bed I got at > the junk yard. Got it for $400 and hauled wood for two years with it while > I was laid off from Ford. > > Darned thing got 9 mpg too most of the time. > > -- > Michigan, Pot Hole Jumping, > 78 Bronco Loving, Gary > http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.thewowfactor.com/bigbroncos/detail.cfm?detailid=167 > -- > > > I saw an ad in a paper here in Norway, some guy had a Ford > > 600 for sale, > > and when I called him it was a F-600, so now I am curious of > > how it looks > > like. > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 16:22:54 EDT From: JJJJJGRANT aol.com Subject: FTE 61-79 - 460 police interceptor the 460's i've seen in police cars have been nothing other than a 460 with an oil cooler. d3ve heads, the heads might make good boat anchors. now on the other hand a 429 police interceptor is the same shortblock as a 429 cj good rods, forged pistons, high volume oil pump, and they usualy have D2OE heads. which are referred to as police interceptor heads and are excellent for a truck. i have seen a few 429cj's come out of a police cruiser, main difference is the heads DOOE casting # not too good for a street truck, unless you have big cubic inches and plan to turn it 7-8000 rpm. the one i had had four bolt mains too. i pulled it and put in a 429 pi, the pi has better pulling power, but the cj ran like you know what above 55 mph. this is due to the huge intake ports and valves (2 1/4" intakes)of the cj. jeff grant == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 14:50:10 -0700 From: Don Grossman Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - It's good to touch the green green grass of home! Deacon wrote: > Yes it's true my friends. After 10 months of living in a motel, we are > back in our house!!! Glad your back in your house and all is right again, at least as right as it can be. The funny thing is just this morning I just deleted you response from Christmas out of my eMail folder. Kinda weird aint it ;) Stick to flashlights from now on Keep on truck'n - -- Don Grossman duckdon pacific.net 99 Contour 63 F-100 4x4 43 GPW == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 15:11:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Pat Brown Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - flexible tubing? CJ wrote: > > Does anyone know where to look for some flexible metal tubing, 2-1/2" > > diameter? I need to temporarily replace some exhaust pipe until > > I can get the > > truck down to the muffler shop......apparently its illegal for > > automotive use > > here in Colorado..... > > > I haven't seen the old 'flex pipe' arond here for a while, but I did just see some 'bendable' pipe at pep boys the other night (Flex pipe looks like spiral wound electrical conduit, 'bendable' is just exhaust pipe that that is folded, accordian style, up the length of pipe). Maybe you're not asking for the right stuff :-) - -- Pat Brown Sebastopol, California == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 16:24:17 -0600 From: "Greg Sage" Subject: FTE 61-79 - Painting Hey Folks! Thanks for the info on the ticking problem. This list has been a great help! Thinking of painting my truck not till next Spring(as up here they dump 40 thousand pounds of gravel on the roads in the winter) and would like some advice on bodywork(techniques on sanding, bondo, painting). Any webpages or books/videos I can check out that might be useful? Also, the color now is brown and would like to change it. What colors were available in 1978 to keep it somewhat original as well as interior? I wanna go all out as I plan to keep my new "baby" for a long time(well, as long as the wife will let me). Thanks, Greg Sage Calgary, Alberta...Canada 1978 F150 2WD 351M/400 C6 w/shiftkit 2nd owner "Albert" == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 20:59:32 EDT From: JUMPINFORD aol.com Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Tweety's Ticker In a message dated 10/18/99 5:44:48 AM Pacific Standard Time, Bad4dFilly aol.com writes: > Only your front half is taller, and Ive worked on that since you were last in town. :P Darrell == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 21:03:38 EDT From: JUMPINFORD aol.com Subject: FTE 61-79 - 460 Manifolds Someone wrote me about the truck manifolds for a 460, but stupid me hit delete on accident. If I could talk you into writing back, I'll be happy to discuss shipping. :) Darrell Duggan 74 F-350 "Tweety" == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 21:15:04 EDT From: JUMPINFORD aol.com Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - flexible tubing? In a message dated 10/18/99 10:20:07 AM Pacific Standard Time, gpeters3 visteon.com writes: this say the same thing, they leak and present a serious asphyxiation problem so no one sells it due to liability. >> Still have it here in Vegas, used it to make a temp exhaust for my bros inline 6 since open headers was a lil louder than expected. Darrell Duggan 74 F-350 "Tweety" == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 21:20:43 EDT From: JUMPINFORD aol.com Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - It's good to touch the green green grass of home! Very Glad to hear your back at home. I hope to god that never happens to me, but its nice knowing that there are still good folks around to help in a time of need. Enjoy the new house, and may it have as many happy memories as the last one. Darrell & Tweety == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 18:41:14 -0700 From: "Hogan, Tom" Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - RE: Truck 385 series Now How they rev. > To be fair I think the latest version of my 460 with spread bore carb, hot > air intake and hot crossover displays more brute torque than the 429 but > still doesn't seem to rev quite as well. This could be tune or any number > of other things and I know that the stroke does help but there is very > little difference between them. More likely it's just a matter of tune > between them or luck :-) > > Could it be the mass of the 460 piston or reciprocating assy (crank, rods) vs a 429? Lighter mass would rev quicker. What's the bore and stroke difference between the two? Tom H. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 18:41:16 -0700 From: "Hogan, Tom" Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - tweety's ticker > Ok, Im gonna date myself here but --- I like a twist on Cosby's idea, give > me > one that goes to a 100, after that I want the words "Oh WOW" ! > > George > Or maybe let it say "Ludicrous Speed" ala Space Balls the Movie. tom H == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 18:41:17 -0700 From: "Hogan, Tom" Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Matching Tranny to Engine... > ---------- > From: pbxtalk[SMTP:pbxtalk dnai.com] > Reply To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com > Sent: Saturday, October 16, 1999 6:49 PM > To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com > Subject: FTE 61-79 - Matching Tranny to Engine... > > Hi there. I was following the thread about matching a C-6 up with a 460. I > have a similar situation. I have a '67 F-250 with the original, tired old > FE 352 in it, and it has about 20-30 lbs. compression on number 4 > cylinder. > But it has a good-working C-4 tranny that looks like it was rebuilt > sometime in the last decade. > > Question is: how interchangable are the Ford V-8's of that era? Do the FE > blocks share the same bolt pattern with the 351W V-8? And where do the > Cleveland's fit in? Are they the same pattern, or do they have their own > bell housing pattern? > Very interchangeable as long as you stay with an FE ;O) (Any color as long as it's black right?) You could go with a 352, 360, 390, 410, 427 or 428 (enough choices yet?) You can't get away from the FE and use the same trans however :O(. The FE has a unique pattern and does not share it with any other engine family. (351W included) > It's a good C-4 tranny, but I'm having a harder time finding FE engines, > and I have a good line on a couple of Windsor engines, and one Cleveland. > But I will rethink the whole deal if I have to go out and buy a tranny to > match the engine. > Check in the PAW (Performance Automotive Wholesale) catalog. They still list full engine kits (block to heads) for engines like the 360 and 390. A 390 would be probably the simplest upgrade for this truck. Good luck Tom H > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 18:41:15 -0700 From: "Hogan, Tom" Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - RE: Tweety's ticker actually about speedo year Yes it should fit. Tom H. > ---------- > From: Mark Heims[SMTP:mheims initco.net] > Reply To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com > Sent: Saturday, October 16, 1999 12:45 PM > To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com > Subject: FTE 61-79 - RE: Tweety's ticker actually about speedo year > > I have an instrument cluster from a 75, and a complete 76 4x4 truck in > my driveway, both are full gauges and both have 100 Mph speedo's. The > cluster I have has crumbly and broken plastic on the back where the > light go, can I pull the speedo out of it and put it in my 78 cluster? > It's a big 4x4 but it will still do 100+. > > Montana Mark > 78 F150 4x4, 3 inch lift, 35" tires, 400, NP435, "The Great Pumpkin" > (Web site in the works) > > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 22:01:59 EDT From: IanBoss69 aol.com Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - stalling problem(kinda long) Well as for that, a good friend of mine curses the word holley but has yet to give me a good reason why,, Ian 79 F250 4x4 4spd 351M True Blue Ford Blue == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 19:11:47 -0700 From: "Hogan, Tom" Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - It's good to touch the green green grass of home! Decon Congrats. Glad to hear your ordeal is finally over. Wishing the best for you in the future. Tom H. > ---------- > From: Deacon[SMTP:deconblu ford-trucks.com] > Reply To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com > Sent: Monday, October 18, 1999 2:56 PM > To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com > Subject: FTE 61-79 - It's good to touch the green green grass of > home! > > Yes it's true my friends. After 10 months of living in a motel, we are > back in our house!!! > > For those new to the list and for the those who've forgotten Ol' Deacon > allow me to recap. > > The day after last Thanksgiving a single fallen candle gutted our > house. I can't begin to explain how much it sucks having a fire. First > there's the useless effort to fight the fire, then the realization of > loss, the endless stream of contractors all trying to get a piece of the > insurance pie and the insurance adjuster doing their best to cheat you > out of your claim. It's an experience that can bring a person down. > Through all the battles one joy kept me strong. > Christmas was a few days away when I wrote to Ken that Christmas > wasn't coming for us. No tree, no lights, no presents for the kids. > Ken's reply came back "You haven't checked your P.O. Box. Go check your > P.O. Box now!" So off to the Post Office went the wife and I. Opening > the envelope I was expecting to find a nice gift. My knees went weak, my > hands started shaking and my eyes filled with tears. I couldn't tell > Teddi what was sent to us, I could only hand the card with the list of > names from FTE friends and the $750 for her to see for herself. > Some people said they couldn't help because time were hard. Thank > you! It wasn't the money (though it did make Christmas a lot happier). > It is something that lasted much longer! A day hasn't gone by that I > haven't thanked God for your thoughtfulness. God showed me as he did > David, We are not alone!!! > > FTE RULES!!!! > > Later! > > Deacon > deconblu ford-trucks.com > deconblu earthlink.net > http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://home.earthlink.net/~deconblu/ > ================================================================ > '76 F350 FE360 C6 \ '73 F100 302 C4 > '66 Mustang 289 C4 \ '89 Aerostar Who cares! > ============================================== > Depression is merely anger without enthusiasm > > > > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 22:56:06 EDT From: GMontgo930 aol.com Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - tweety's ticker Maybe it's time for me to switch up to 33's from my "31's". Too bad only the rears need changing right now (one has a bubble under the tread, the other a slow leak). The fronts were changed about 15k ago and are still looking fine! George In a message dated 10/18/1999 9:22:27 AM Eastern Daylight Time, gpeters3 visteon.com writes: and run around 2k at 60 by my calculations. 3k is not out of range for a torque engine, 6200 is :-) The main reason you don't want to run that rpm is economy. The 400 will pull happily at 2k even loaded so when you spin it higher you are wasting a lot of motor and fuel. -- Michigan, Pot Hole Jumping, 78 Bronco Loving, Gary http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.thewowfactor.com/bigbroncos/detail.cfm?detailid=167 -- > Man! My Bronco at 2500 I'm doing 55 & at 3000 is just barely > hitting 70. and > they say a 400 is a low revving motor! It's suposto have 3.5 > gears (per the > axle tag) though Ive never checked it. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html >> == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 22:07:55 -0500 From: Stu Varner Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - It's good to touch the green green grass of home! At 11:56 AM 10/18/99 -0700, you wrote: >Yes it's true my friends. After 10 months of living in a motel, we are >back in our house!!! Awesome news!!!!! Welcome home! You have not been forgotten......missed is more like it! We need some good vibes around here big man, hang around a little longer this time. Stu Nuke GM! http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.pscico.com/stu == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 22:11:35 -0500 From: Stu Varner Subject: FTE 61-79 - Web page updated - again The web page has been updated with 4 fresh pics of the engine bay and a 92% assembled truck. Enjoy!! Thanks Tony! Stu Nuke GM! http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.pscico.com/stu Remember, the first firing party for "The Ole B*^%h" is scheduled for Nov 13th. Email me off list for specifics. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 23:10:56 -0400 From: Tim Anderson Subject: FTE 61-79 - RE: Need mounts for radiator support Joe, The radiator support mounts you want can be had from a company called Carolina Classics. They are at 1 800 598-4211 and sell the mounts for $63. I haven't bought anything from them but that's the only place I've seen them offered for your year of truck. I made a set for my '67 from Cessna engine mounts. They work great but most folks won't have access to stuff like that. Good luck! Tim in Anchorage '67 F-100 (still lunar green and growing) == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 23:16:20 EDT From: GMontgo930 aol.com Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - tweety's ticker In a message dated 10/18/1999 9:46:56 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Tom.Hogan kla-tencor.com writes: > Ok, Im gonna date myself here but --- I like a twist on Cosby's idea, give > me > one that goes to a 100, after that I want the words "Oh WOW" ! > > George > Or maybe let it say "Ludicrous Speed" ala Space Balls the Movie. >> I tried that! Stopping once you've "Gone to Plad" is not a pretty sight,.... 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