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61-79-list-digest Monday, October 18 1999 Volume 03 : Number 379



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In this issue:

Re: FTE 61-79 - 460 police
RE: FTE 61-79 - 460 police
Re: FTE 61-79 - 460 police
RE: FTE 61-79 - Steering setup ... more questions
FTE 61-79 - RE: Speedo year
FTE 61-79 - engine swap
RE: FTE 61-79 - Dana front
RE: FTE 61-79 - tweety's ticker
RE: FTE 61-79 - hows this for swapping
RE: FTE 61-79 - Body stuff
RE: FTE 61-79 - IFS Install
RE: FTE 61-79 - RE: Tweety's ticker actually about speedo year
RE: FTE 61-79 - Matching Tranny to Engine...
RE: FTE 61-79 - stalling problem(kinda long)
RE: FTE 61-79 - Tranny choices for 460
RE: FTE 61-79 - engine numbers
RE: FTE 61-79 - engine swap
RE: FTE 61-79 - What engine?
Re: FTE 61-79 - Tweety's Ticker
FTE 61-79 - What engine?
FTE 61-79 - 1964, F-600 questions...
RE: FTE 61-79 - My Web Page
Re: FTE 61-79 - W heads
RE: FTE 61-79 - 1964, F-600 questions...
FTE 61-79 - flexible tubing?
Re: FTE 61-79 - flexible tubing?
RE: FTE 61-79 - flexible tubing?
FTE 61-79 - Re: What Engine?
RE: FTE 61-79 - W heads
RE: FTE 61-79 - flexible tubing?
RE: FTE 61-79 - flexible tubing?
RE: FTE 61-79 - flexible tubing?
FTE 61-79 - It's good to touch the green green grass of home!
RE: FTE 61-79 - flexible tubing?
RE: FTE 61-79 - flexible tubing?
RE: FTE 61-79 - It's good to touch the green green grass of home!
Re: FTE 61-79 - 1964, F-600 questions...
FTE 61-79 - 460 police interceptor
Re: FTE 61-79 - It's good to touch the green green grass of home!
Re: FTE 61-79 - flexible tubing?
FTE 61-79 - Painting
Re: FTE 61-79 - Tweety's Ticker
FTE 61-79 - 460 Manifolds
Re: FTE 61-79 - flexible tubing?
Re: FTE 61-79 - It's good to touch the green green grass of home!
RE: FTE 61-79 - RE: Truck 385 series Now How they rev.
RE: FTE 61-79 - tweety's ticker
RE: FTE 61-79 - Matching Tranny to Engine...
RE: FTE 61-79 - RE: Tweety's ticker actually about speedo year
Re: FTE 61-79 - stalling problem(kinda long)
RE: FTE 61-79 - It's good to touch the green green grass of home!
Re: FTE 61-79 - tweety's ticker
Re: FTE 61-79 - It's good to touch the green green grass of home!
FTE 61-79 - Web page updated - again
FTE 61-79 - RE: Need mounts for radiator support
Re: FTE 61-79 - tweety's ticker
Re: FTE 61-79 - Web page updated - again
FTE 61-79 - In Seattle
Re: FTE 61-79 - 1964, F-600 questions...

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Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 12:20:28 +0200 (MET DST)
From: Bas van der Veer
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 460 police

> I dont have any experience with this motor but i have heard it called the
> "Police Interceptor". Friend of mine just told me that it came with a hotter
> cam and an oil cooler.Hes not sure if there is more to it than that. I asked
> him if they were put out pre-72 with the high comp heads.. but he said if it
> is pre-72 it would have been a 429 PI.

so basically the most important feature of that engine is its name :) ..
I wonder if it says police interceptor on the valve cover!

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Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 07:21:11 -0400
From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - 460 police

I don't know all the particulars but.....it did have a special clutch fan
assy which can be obtained at auto parts under that description "Police"
which is made for higher rpm use.

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> anyone know what the 460 police is? Just a different tuning?
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Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 05:51:22 -0600
From: "Danger"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 460 police

> so basically the most important feature of that engine is its name :) ..
> I wonder if it says police interceptor on the valve cover!
................

I'd give the oil cooler a bit of credit on the police interceptor
engines. Seems like they also used solid lifters rather than hydraulic.

Danger

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Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 08:08:42 -0400
From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Steering setup ... more questions

The only reason you need an adjustable drag link it to get the steering box
centered again which is important for good handling. Virtually all steering
boxes of the sector, recirculating ball type have an excentric sector which
is tighter in the center of travel than at the ends to give the best control
in that position so you can go straight down the road without any wiggles.

Yes, especially on a 4x4, you can get by without centering it because you
can't use the whole range of the box anyway usually but.........it will have
handling problems if you do this or at least the potential is there.

On solid axle 4x4's there are two ways to center the steering box:

1..Install an adjustable drag link with enough range to cover the changes
2..Bend the track bar or straighten it to reposition the axle within it's
stock range but...
Beware not to get the axle out of alignment with the chassis. This
alignement is called "Offset" which is latterally or left to right or
sideways or tracking which puts the rear wheel exactly in the same track as
the front when moving in an absolutely straight line (some have different
tracks so they have to be the same offset on both sides in that case :-))

I used option two in a stock setup to "Correct" a misaligned axle and also
put the wheel back on center but in a conversion the distance may not be
compatible so the drag link would be necessary.

Notice in all this I never mentioned the steering "Wheel". You can pull it
off and recenter it but the box will not be centered. To test the center of
the box you must rotate the wheel from lock to lock (with linkage removed so
it won't interfere) and calculate it's central position then pull the wheel
if necessary and recenter it without moving the column. This syncronizes
the wheel with the box. Now you can see what has to be done to bring them
to center with the chassis etc..

As I said, you can get by without doing this but you will never have good
handling until the box is syncronized to center when the vehicle is going
straight. When I take a vehicle in to have it aligned I always leave
instructions that the steering wheel must not be removed to realign it. If
it comes back and the wheel is off then I know the chassis is damaged in
some way and parts need to be replaced. I also always double check to make
sure they followed my instructions too :-)

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Am I going to need a adjustable drag link or is the NAPA one good
enough. I don't want to order unless I have to, because I live in
Alaska and will eat it in the shipping.
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Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 08:40:30 -0400
From: Steve Schaefer
Subject: FTE 61-79 - RE: Speedo year

>

My 76 2wd has idiot lights, and 100 mph speedo. My 77 2wd has guages, and 85 mph speedo. I have a cluster from a 79 4wd that has idiot lights and 85 mph guage. I also have a 75 4wd cluster with idiot lights and 100mph
speedo.

Steve S
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77 F-250 Supercab 4x4 (yellow/purple)
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>
> I have an instrument cluster from a 75, and a complete 76 4x4 truck in
> my driveway, both are full gauges and both have 100 Mph speedo's.

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Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 08:03:33 -0500
From: "Eric Washburn"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - engine swap

Here's a problem I need solved. I have a '67 F100 with a 240 and 3-spd
tranny. I want to put in a fuel-injected 300 or a 302 from a truck or a
Lincoln. What all would I need so that this is possible?


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Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 09:12:05 -0400
From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Dana front

By tapping the pin through the other side this can be done but since one
hole on that ring will amount to less than 0.010" axial movement I would
guess it's not really necessary. This has occured to me on occasion too but
I've never felt it was necessary. These bearings are pretty tolerant of
free play. I've run them very loose and many mechanics at tire places don't
understand how to properly adjust them and tend to leave them way too tight
as some on this list have done and they seem to survive. I now run them at
zero and have only lost one bearing in my life which is probably due to bad
grease, loose fit and 200k miles along with some water contamination. When
I mess up I do a good job though :-(

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> The lock ring can be flipped over to give you a "1/2 hole" if you need
> it.
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Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 08:32:51 -0400
From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - tweety's ticker

With stock size tires that would be about right :-) I have 33's with 3.5's
and run around 2k at 60 by my calculations. 3k is not out of range for a
torque engine, 6200 is :-) The main reason you don't want to run that rpm
is economy. The 400 will pull happily at 2k even loaded so when you spin it
higher you are wasting a lot of motor and fuel.

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> Man! My Bronco at 2500 I'm doing 55 & at 3000 is just barely
> hitting 70. and
> they say a 400 is a low revving motor! It's suposto have 3.5
> gears (per the
> axle tag) though Ive never checked it.
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Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 09:18:11 -0400
From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - hows this for swapping

You can also just swap in a 460, pull the computer stuff and run it like an
older truck but in either case you may have some legal issues to consider.
Check with your insurance company before swapping bodies to a different year
or style. There are grandfather clauses in all contracts that can deprive
you of even liability coverage if you tamper with the vehicle and the
insurance company is under no legal obligation to tell you about them. Most
companies require a state cirtificate of safety for these types of
modifications.

Swapping engines has little impact in most cases but even that can have some
impact. I asked my agent before I did my swap and he said as long as the
swap is done safely and is not responsible for the accident it won't enter
into the picture but that's just one company and one situation.

Better check first :-)

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> awhile i came up with my own question,,,will a 92-96 F-series
> body fit on a
> 79 chassis?? If it would it'd be the perfect solution,,,I'm a
> big fan of the
> 92-96's looks i just hate vehicle computers. So my idea is
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Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 08:16:54 -0500
From: "William S. Hart"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Body stuff

> Howdy ya'll, I am just about ready to put the motor back in my new tube
> frame, and I was wonderin, where I can get some new body mounts,
> I was told
> I could use hocky pucks? is this true?

You probably COULD, but I wouldn't recommend it ... the rubber in hockey
pucks isn't nearly as flexible as that found on motor mounts ... at first
this seems good, but actually the pucks tear much easier .. also when they
are cold they get pretty brittle and could crack based on the engine
vibrations ... and while you're trying to fit one in there, if you drop it
on your head you will really be not very happy (but it'll sound cool at work
when they ask about the bruise :)



Also, I would like to
> know if a Borg
> warner T-5 5 speed tranny will bolt up good to the 302 4 barrel
> in the old
> 78'?

The short answer ? Yes, with issues. There are different input shaft
lengths, but there are all kinds of ways to get it to work, this is very
popular in the 'stang crowd, check out www.mustangworks.com I think they had
an article on it... remember these are internal shifters though, if the hole
doesn't line up you may have some other issues too....


> I am hoping to touch the 125 mph zone with the beast!

You shouldn't need the OD to do this, depending on your gearing of course
... why not put a T-56 6spd in there, then you can hit 125 and still have
another OD left :)


Just my $.02
wish

96 Mustang GT 4.6L
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Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 08:23:11 -0500
From: "William S. Hart"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - IFS Install

> O.K. did the unthinkable and had a MustangII IFS installed in my '62
> Unibody. Went to the dual master cylinder and the 11" Granda

> SO much smoother, but ride hight is a major problem. Installed
> the springs
> for the 5.0 already, but not enought to clear the 235's.

What year 5.0 are they for ? the 94+ used a slightly longer spring ... and
rumor is that the 99's have even more ride height ... not sure if they use
the same spring or not, but I have a set that I can measure if you know the
diameters you need ...


> anybody know the
> weight difference between a 292 and say a 302 or 351?
>

I would guess its not much ... check www.wrljet.com and see if they list the
weights for the 292, I know they list the 351 weight and the difference
between that and the 302, so that should be easy enough to find....

Just my $.02
wish

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Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 08:25:08 -0500
From: "William S. Hart"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - RE: Tweety's ticker actually about speedo year

> I have an instrument cluster from a 75, and a complete 76 4x4 truck in
> my driveway, both are full gauges and both have 100 Mph speedo's. The
> cluster I have has crumbly and broken plastic on the back where the
> light go, can I pull the speedo out of it and put it in my 78 cluster?
> It's a big 4x4 but it will still do 100+.
>

You didn't mention whether you had lights or gauges in your 78 ... if you
have gauges it should be no problem, if you have lights, then you may have
an issue with the under dash wiring not being quite right... but with a
"parts" truck that could be remedied too ...

Just my $.02
wish

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Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 09:26:31 -0400
From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Matching Tranny to Engine...

The swap you mention will cost some in any case. The FE has a round tranny
flange and is different from every other engine. All FE's are the same
though. 460/429 and 351M/400 use the same tranny and 302, 351W, 351C & I-6,
300 use the same tranny but these groups can't be mixed. The C-4 has a
separate bell housing and can be adapted to most of these engines with the
exception, possibley, of the big block pattern.

If you put in something other than the FE family or I-6 you will have to
change drive shafts, cross members, engine mounts etc..

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> Question is: how interchangable are the Ford V-8's of that
> era? Do the FE
> blocks share the same bolt pattern with the 351W V-8? And
> where do the
> Cleveland's fit in? Are they the same pattern, or do they
> have their own
> bell housing pattern?
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Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 09:28:42 -0400
From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - stalling problem(kinda long)

WE all have differing views on this but I would stay away from the Holleys
myself. Carter, Rochester, Edlebrock all make better mouse traps for trucks
:-)

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> not. Now i have pieces missing in the carb that nobody sells
> anymore,,,,I've
> been looking for an excuse to put a 4bbl holly on there, be
> careful what you
> wish for,,,
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Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 09:31:28 -0400
From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Tranny choices for 460

I believe this is answered already but the I-6 is a "small block" pattern
and the 460 is a "big block" pattern. You have to get the correct tranny
too :-( 302 will work as will 351W or C :-)

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> I have a 300 I6/C6 set up in my 79 F100 4x2. What tranny will fit with
> the 460? The C6 has worked so well with the 300 I was looking
> for a 302
> but this motor is available and I started thinking........
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Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 08:31:55 -0500
From: "William S. Hart"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - engine numbers

> I pulled the 390 out of my 66 F100 to rebuild and was wondering
> how to id it
> to find out what year it is and if it was a truck or car block?
> also want to
> know if the heads are truck heads or ?

Okay, first thing to do is find "How to rebuild big block fords" by Steve
Christ...its got almost all of that stuff in htere ...

quickly though :

Engine, check for the casting of a 352 backwards under the driver's side
water jacket...if its a 105 its a truck block if its a 352 its a car block,
when we say "truck" and "car" though truck means greater than 1 ton rating
... a "medium" duty truck ...

Heads : check between the middle exhaust ports ... seems like they hide them
there ... in this case a T for the 4th digit will indicate truck heads,
meaning light duty this time ...

Intake, should have a part number on it as well ..

All these part numbers break down like this :

C first alpha = decade (C=60's, D=70's, etc (works both ways from there))
9 second number = year in decade (9= 9th year) so (C9xx = 69)
T third alpha = line part was designed for (A=full size car, T=truck, a
full list can be found various places, I think stockman has one on his
website ???)
E fourth aplha = part location ... E= engine C=chassis etc.

so you can at least get the years off of the parts now at least ...
Just my $.02
wish

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Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 08:35:50 -0500
From: "William S. Hart"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - engine swap

> Here's a problem I need solved. I have a '67 F100 with a 240 and 3-spd
> tranny. I want to put in a fuel-injected 300 or a 302 from a truck or a
> Lincoln. What all would I need so that this is possible?
>

A better idea of what your goal is ?

There is lots involved in swapping a 302 for an I6, or so I'm lead to
believe ... a 300 should however bolt right in ... as for the fuel injection
portions of it ... there is lots out there to help you with the 302 swap in
this case (even an article on the FTE website!), and probably not so much to
help you with the 300, not to mention the number of aftermarket parts for a
302 is astronomical ...

at any rate, you really need to decide where you want to spend most of your
time I think ... whether you want to swap it all in one easy movement and
play with wiring, or swap the motor mounts and tranny(?!?) and everything
and then play with some wiring ...

Just my $.02
wish

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Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 08:48:49 -0400
From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - What engine?

I used to drain the oil every spring in my old 352 and the crank case would
have about a gallon of water in it. Put new oil in it and run it all summer
as a wrecker around the place. Did this for several years and it always
started and always ran well, never knocked.

I have no idea where the water came from. It was not coolant and it had an
air cleaner and hood on it and all the other normal stuff to plug holes but
ever spring.........same thing???

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> I've just acquired a 71' F250 with a 352 & c-6 trans. The
> engine has water
> in the oil
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Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 09:38:32 EDT
From: Bad4dFilly aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Tweety's Ticker

In a message dated 10/16/1999 12:25:32 AM !!!First Boot!!!,
JUMPINFORD aol.com writes:

>
Lets see:

F-350 - F-150
460 - 400
33's - 33's
longbed - shortbed >>


Who's taller????? =P

*~*~Lisa and Envy~*~*
*~*~Silly boys......trucks are for GIRLS!~*~*


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Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 09:55:24 -0700
From: "O'Connor"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - What engine?

Stephen,
You asked what engine to put into a 71 F250! Since the 352 wasn't used in
71, I would suggest a 390. Everyone seems to feel that it gets about the
same mileage as a 352/360; but has more pep and more potential. 390's were
producted in the 71's and still very accessible. Since it's an FE style
block, it should bolt right in with no problems.

Tim 66F100 SWB Custom Cab 352 stock O/D and P/S
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Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 17:19:42 +0100
From: "Bill Brox"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 1964, F-600 questions...

Hi all.

I saw an ad in a paper here in Norway, some guy had a Ford 600 for sale,
and when I called him it was a F-600, so now I am curious of how it looks
like.
Does it have the same cab as the F-100 to F-350 ?

Also, he said the truck had a gross vehicle weight of 11500 kg, which means
25330 lbs,,, is this correct ? Or have I missunderstood... (weight of truck
+ weight of cargo)

Then he said it had a 6 cyl. gas engine,,,, he thought it was about 4 liter
displacement,,, what kind of engine coiuld this be ?

Can anyone tell me a little about this truck.... so silly it is so late in
the fall here, if spring I could have ended up with the truck I wanted and
needed for heavy cargos ?

Well, enough for now...


Bill Brox



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Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 10:27:19 -0400
From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - My Web Page

Nice looking truck! We can only hope to have one that nice some day :-)

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Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 11:50:04 -0500
From: "Don Yerhot"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - W heads

Same heads from 69 to 74. The valves were 1.84 and 1.54 as opposed to 1.78
and 1.45 for the 75 and later. The early heads also had 8 bolts on each side
as opposed to 6 for 75 and later. In 77 they switched from rail rockers to
pedestal and also increased the size of the combustion chamber, I believe
from 64cc to 69.
Because of the wedge combustion chamber, these engines can run some fairly
high compression without predetonation. I'm running KB Silvolites with 75
heads, or about 10.8-1. I get by with 93 octane gas and a can of 104 every
other tank. I was running a 71 351C 2V with 9.0-1 that pinged like crazy. I
agree, 351W's are great little engines.

DonY
65F250-351W
74F100-351W


is a small block, everything you know about a 302 will be good,,, except
for the few differences... among them are higher torque specifications on
head, rod and main bearing bolts + others...

As far as I know 351 W 2v and 4v heads are the same, only the intake was
different.

If you want big valves, be sure to find a 351 W from a car, and at least
not the 1975 truck head,,, or later car heads.... No problems at least to
put in the large valves from the early years in those heads from later
years with small valves.

No multiple carbs offered from factory....

Remember, the 351W engine has same size main bearings as 429 and 460,,,,
rather big crank....

I wrote a post a little while ago about the 351W,,, but can't remember
when....

How much hp do you want, and where do you want the torque to be ?

I love this engine.... nice Ford stuff.>

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Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 13:21:09 -0400
From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - 1964, F-600 questions...

The 62 I had was a cab over or tilt cab design with 330 Fe engine, Clark 5
speed, two speed rear axle and a stout capacity. I could fill it higher
than the cab with fire wood and it wasn't even beginning to sag. I loved
that truck, wish I still had it :-( We called it the "Biggie" after the
name my daughter dubbed due to it's size over the other vehicles we had
around. Had a 16' bed on it I made myself out of another truck bed I got at
the junk yard. Got it for $400 and hauled wood for two years with it while
I was laid off from Ford.

Darned thing got 9 mpg too most of the time.

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> I saw an ad in a paper here in Norway, some guy had a Ford
> 600 for sale,
> and when I called him it was a F-600, so now I am curious of
> how it looks
> like.
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Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 13:27:57 EDT
From: BDIJXS aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - flexible tubing?

Does anyone know where to look for some flexible metal tubing, 2-1/2"
diameter? I need to temporarily replace some exhaust pipe until I can get the
truck down to the muffler shop......apparently its illegal for automotive use
here in Colorado.....

CJ
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Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 13:40:55 EDT
From: TBeeee aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - flexible tubing?

In a message dated 10/18/99 1:38:19 PM Eastern Daylight Time, BDIJXS aol.com
writes:

> Does anyone know where to look for some flexible metal tubing, 2-1/2"
> diameter?

Doesn't Whitney's sell this stuff?

Stock Man
1967 Galaxie 500 Convertible (HELP!---I need 15 x5 factory rims)
1967 F-250 FE 390 4wd
1966 F-250 I6 240 2wd LWB Flare Side
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Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 10:51:38 -0700
From: "Southerland, Rich"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - flexible tubing?

They do, but by the time it got there...

If you are indeed going to get it fixed properly, why not just drive the
truck to the shop? Is it THAT bad?

Flexible conduit (electrical) isn't made that large is it?

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Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - flexible tubing?


In a message dated 10/18/99 1:38:19 PM Eastern Daylight Time, BDIJXS aol.com

writes:

> Does anyone know where to look for some flexible metal tubing, 2-1/2"
> diameter?

Doesn't Whitney's sell this stuff?

Stock Man
1967 Galaxie 500 Convertible (HELP!---I need 15 x5 factory rims)
1967 F-250 FE 390 4wd
1966 F-250 I6 240 2wd LWB Flare Side
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Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 10:56:33 -0700
From: Marv Miller
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: What Engine?

Stephen Brown wrote:

>I've just acquired a 71' F250 with a 352 & c-6 trans. The engine has water
>in the oil. Does anyone have any "real suggestions on what would
>cause water in the oil?

Only FE I ever saw with water & oil crossed up had ATF in the coolant.
Sure was rough on all the hoses. We all should know how THIS happened.
(Oops, Lisa & Envy, the tranny cooler in the bottom radiator tank spring an
internal leak).

To answer Stephen's question , build that 352 into a 390, after having the
block leak checked.
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Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 13:10:47 -0500
From: "William S. Hart"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - W heads

> In 77 they switched from rail
> rockers to
> pedestal and also increased the size of the combustion chamber,


We're talkin W's here right ? The 69's that we have at home have the
pedestal rockers on them ... not the rails like I have in the FE ... they
are non adjustable though ...


> Because of the wedge combustion chamber, these engines can run
> some fairly
> high compression without predetonation. I'm running KB Silvolites with 75
> heads, or about 10.8-1. I get by with 93 octane gas and a can of
> 104 every
> other tank.

What cam do you have on this ? Lots of times builders compensate for
excessive compression using a big cam to "bleed off" the compression ratio a
bit ...


I was running a 71 351C 2V with 9.0-1 that pinged
> like crazy. I
> agree, 351W's are great little engines.
>

Wow, I've never had 9:1 ping ... my 9.6+ (FE) is pinging with too much
advance, but at 8deg initial I can run it without pinging or anything on 89
octane (ethanol)...

Just my $.02
wish

96 Mustang GT 4.6L
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Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 13:12:26 -0500
From: "William S. Hart"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - flexible tubing?

> Does anyone know where to look for some flexible metal tubing, 2-1/2"
> diameter? I need to temporarily replace some exhaust pipe until
> I can get the
> truck down to the muffler shop......apparently its illegal for
> automotive use
> here in Colorado.....
>

Maybe for automotive, but not for semi's :) Check with a truck shop, they
should have some ...


Want me to ship you some ? ;)

Just my $.02
wish

96 Mustang GT 4.6L
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Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 13:58:02 -0400
From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - flexible tubing?

I drove mine to the shop with just the headers on it.......WHAT A GAS!!!
Couldn't help stepping on it once in a while :-) Places I've asked about
this say the same thing, they leak and present a serious asphyxiation
problem so no one sells it due to liability. I don't know if JC whittney
even has it any more?

If you drive cautiously you should be able to get by the Gendarmes (can you
believe this word was in the spell checker?) or at least make a good case
for yourself for permission to continue to the shop if they stop you :-)

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> Does anyone know where to look for some flexible metal tubing, 2-1/2"
> diameter? I need to temporarily replace some exhaust pipe
> until I can get the
> truck down to the muffler shop......apparently its illegal
> for automotive use
> here in Colorado.....
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Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 13:37:15 -0500
From: "William S. Hart"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - flexible tubing?

> I drove mine to the shop with just the headers on it.......

I think we've all done this, or seen this done before, but I think I know
what Jeff's worried about ... he just put this really cool motor in his
truck, the whole thing is new, and he's got the Sanderson block hugger
headers that fit against the block (imagine that), but stop right about the
oil pan ... breakin and all that stuff with an open exhaust would be ...
well loud and I'd be worried about cracking a valve or something with an
exhaust that short and a motor that's never fired before ...

Did I get close to your reasoning there Jeff ?

Just my $.02
wish

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Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 11:56:00 -0700
From: "Deacon"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - It's good to touch the green green grass of home!

Yes it's true my friends. After 10 months of living in a motel, we are
back in our house!!!

For those new to the list and for the those who've forgotten Ol' Deacon
allow me to recap.

The day after last Thanksgiving a single fallen candle gutted our
house. I can't begin to explain how much it sucks having a fire. First
there's the useless effort to fight the fire, then the realization of
loss, the endless stream of contractors all trying to get a piece of the
insurance pie and the insurance adjuster doing their best to cheat you
out of your claim. It's an experience that can bring a person down.
Through all the battles one joy kept me strong.
Christmas was a few days away when I wrote to Ken that Christmas
wasn't coming for us. No tree, no lights, no presents for the kids.
Ken's reply came back "You haven't checked your P.O. Box. Go check your
P.O. Box now!" So off to the Post Office went the wife and I. Opening
the envelope I was expecting to find a nice gift. My knees went weak, my
hands started shaking and my eyes filled with tears. I couldn't tell
Teddi what was sent to us, I could only hand the card with the list of
names from FTE friends and the $750 for her to see for herself.
Some people said they couldn't help because time were hard. Thank
you! It wasn't the money (though it did make Christmas a lot happier).
It is something that lasted much longer! A day hasn't gone by that I
haven't thanked God for your thoughtfulness. God showed me as he did
David, We are not alone!!!

FTE RULES!!!!

Later!

Deacon
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Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 11:57:33 -0700
From: "Southerland, Rich"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - flexible tubing?

If that's the case, then forget what I said about just going for it. I
assumed he just had a bad piece, not that he had open headers.


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To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - flexible tubing?


> I drove mine to the shop with just the headers on it.......

I think we've all done this, or seen this done before, but I think I know
what Jeff's worried about ... he just put this really cool motor in his
truck, the whole thing is new, and he's got the Sanderson block hugger
headers that fit against the block (imagine that), but stop right about the
oil pan ... breakin and all that stuff with an open exhaust would be ...
well loud and I'd be worried about cracking a valve or something with an
exhaust that short and a motor that's never fired before ...

Did I get close to your reasoning there Jeff ?

Just my $.02
wish

96 Mustang GT 4.6L
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Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 15:12:50 -0400
From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - flexible tubing?

I considered that too but the headers point downward and have about 36" of
tubing in them so since hot goes up and cool goes down I figured it would be
ok :-) My headers are wrapped too so there is a little insulation :-)
Dragsters run shorter pipes than that and they point up to boot and
apparently don't have problems so I think the problems we hear about are
mostly theoretical anyway. I can see an exhaust valve moving a little on a
supper hot engine if there is much air movement around it when you shut it
down but convection isn't likely to change temps fast enough to do any harm
I would think?

Not really arguing with you on this, I'm a little leary of it too, just not
convinced that with headers on it we have to be overly concerned. Probably
more likely to catch the truck on fire before we hurt the valves :-)

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> well loud and I'd be worried about cracking a valve or
> something with an
> exhaust that short and a motor that's never fired before ...
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Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 14:34:18 -0500
From: "William S. Hart"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - It's good to touch the green green grass of home!

> Yes it's true my friends. After 10 months of living in a motel, we are
> back in our house!!!
>

Congratulations ? Anyway its great that you're back in your house, and
you'll have lots to be thankful for this year for sure ... I hope you can
get "settled" in quickly and enjoy things as they should be ...

Just my $.02
wish

96 Mustang GT 4.6L
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Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 22:09:44 +0100
From: "Bill Brox"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 1964, F-600 questions...

9 mpg empty or full load ?

Bill

>
> The 62 I had was a cab over or tilt cab design with 330 Fe engine, Clark
5
> speed, two speed rear axle and a stout capacity. I could fill it higher
> than the cab with fire wood and it wasn't even beginning to sag. I loved
> that truck, wish I still had it :-( We called it the "Biggie" after the
> name my daughter dubbed due to it's size over the other vehicles we had
> around. Had a 16' bed on it I made myself out of another truck bed I got
at
> the junk yard. Got it for $400 and hauled wood for two years with it
while
> I was laid off from Ford.
>
> Darned thing got 9 mpg too most of the time.
>
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> 78 Bronco Loving, Gary
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> --
>
> > I saw an ad in a paper here in Norway, some guy had a Ford
> > 600 for sale,
> > and when I called him it was a F-600, so now I am curious of
> > how it looks
> > like.
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Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 16:22:54 EDT
From: JJJJJGRANT aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 460 police interceptor

the 460's i've seen in police cars have been nothing other than a 460 with
an oil cooler. d3ve heads, the heads might make good boat anchors.
now on the other hand a 429 police interceptor is the same shortblock as a
429 cj
good rods, forged pistons, high volume oil pump, and they usualy have D2OE
heads.
which are referred to as police interceptor heads and are excellent for a
truck.
i have seen a few 429cj's come out of a police cruiser, main difference is
the heads
DOOE casting # not too good for a street truck, unless you have big cubic
inches and plan to turn it 7-8000 rpm. the one i had had four bolt mains too.
i pulled it and put in a 429 pi, the pi has better pulling power, but the
cj ran like
you know what above 55 mph. this is due to the huge intake ports and valves
(2 1/4" intakes)of the cj.

jeff grant
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Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 14:50:10 -0700
From: Don Grossman
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - It's good to touch the green green grass of home!

Deacon wrote:

> Yes it's true my friends. After 10 months of living in a motel, we are
> back in our house!!!

Glad your back in your house and all is right again, at least as right as
it can be. The funny thing is just this morning I just deleted you
response from Christmas out of my eMail folder. Kinda weird aint it ;)

Stick to flashlights from now on

Keep on truck'n

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99 Contour
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43 GPW


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Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 15:11:24 -0700 (PDT)
From: Pat Brown
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - flexible tubing?

CJ wrote:
> > Does anyone know where to look for some flexible metal tubing, 2-1/2"
> > diameter? I need to temporarily replace some exhaust pipe until
> > I can get the
> > truck down to the muffler shop......apparently its illegal for
> > automotive use
> > here in Colorado.....
> >
>

I haven't seen the old 'flex pipe' arond here for a while, but
I did just see some 'bendable' pipe at pep boys the other night
(Flex pipe looks like spiral wound electrical conduit, 'bendable'
is just exhaust pipe that that is folded, accordian style, up the
length of pipe). Maybe you're not asking for the right stuff :-)
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Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 16:24:17 -0600
From: "Greg Sage"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Painting

Hey Folks!
Thanks for the info on the ticking problem. This list has been a great
help! Thinking of painting my truck not till next Spring(as up here they
dump 40 thousand pounds of gravel on the roads in the winter) and would like
some advice on bodywork(techniques on sanding, bondo, painting). Any
webpages or books/videos I can check out that might be useful? Also, the
color now is brown and would like to change it. What colors were available
in 1978 to keep it somewhat original as well as interior? I wanna go all out
as I plan to keep my new "baby" for a long time(well, as long as the wife
will let me).

Thanks,
Greg Sage
Calgary, Alberta...Canada
1978 F150 2WD 351M/400 C6 w/shiftkit 2nd owner "Albert"

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Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 20:59:32 EDT
From: JUMPINFORD aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Tweety's Ticker

In a message dated 10/18/99 5:44:48 AM Pacific Standard Time,
Bad4dFilly aol.com writes:

>

Only your front half is taller, and Ive worked on that since you were last in
town. :P

Darrell
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Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 21:03:38 EDT
From: JUMPINFORD aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 460 Manifolds

Someone wrote me about the truck manifolds for a 460, but stupid me hit
delete on accident. If I could talk you into writing back, I'll be happy to
discuss shipping. :)

Darrell Duggan
74 F-350 "Tweety"
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Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 21:15:04 EDT
From: JUMPINFORD aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - flexible tubing?

In a message dated 10/18/99 10:20:07 AM Pacific Standard Time,
gpeters3 visteon.com writes:


this say the same thing, they leak and present a serious asphyxiation
problem so no one sells it due to liability. >>

Still have it here in Vegas, used it to make a temp exhaust for my bros
inline 6 since open headers was a lil louder than expected.

Darrell Duggan
74 F-350 "Tweety"
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Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 21:20:43 EDT
From: JUMPINFORD aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - It's good to touch the green green grass of home!

Very Glad to hear your back at home. I hope to god that never happens to me,
but its nice knowing that there are still good folks around to help in a time
of need. Enjoy the new house, and may it have as many happy memories as the
last one.

Darrell & Tweety
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Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 18:41:14 -0700
From: "Hogan, Tom"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - RE: Truck 385 series Now How they rev.



> To be fair I think the latest version of my 460 with spread bore carb, hot
> air intake and hot crossover displays more brute torque than the 429 but
> still doesn't seem to rev quite as well. This could be tune or any number
> of other things and I know that the stroke does help but there is very
> little difference between them. More likely it's just a matter of tune
> between them or luck :-)
>
>
Could it be the mass of the 460 piston or reciprocating assy (crank,
rods) vs a 429? Lighter mass would rev quicker. What's the bore and stroke
difference between the two?

Tom H.
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Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 18:41:16 -0700
From: "Hogan, Tom"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - tweety's ticker



> Ok, Im gonna date myself here but --- I like a twist on Cosby's idea, give
> me
> one that goes to a 100, after that I want the words "Oh WOW" !
>
> George
>
Or maybe let it say "Ludicrous Speed" ala Space Balls the Movie.

tom H
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Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 18:41:17 -0700
From: "Hogan, Tom"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Matching Tranny to Engine...

> ----------
> From: pbxtalk[SMTP:pbxtalk dnai.com]
> Reply To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
> Sent: Saturday, October 16, 1999 6:49 PM
> To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: FTE 61-79 - Matching Tranny to Engine...
>
> Hi there. I was following the thread about matching a C-6 up with a 460. I
> have a similar situation. I have a '67 F-250 with the original, tired old
> FE 352 in it, and it has about 20-30 lbs. compression on number 4
> cylinder.
> But it has a good-working C-4 tranny that looks like it was rebuilt
> sometime in the last decade.
>
> Question is: how interchangable are the Ford V-8's of that era? Do the FE
> blocks share the same bolt pattern with the 351W V-8? And where do the
> Cleveland's fit in? Are they the same pattern, or do they have their own
> bell housing pattern?
>
Very interchangeable as long as you stay with an FE ;O) (Any color as long
as it's black right?) You could go with a 352, 360, 390, 410, 427 or 428
(enough choices yet?) You can't get away from the FE and use the same trans
however :O(. The FE has a unique pattern and does not share it with any
other engine family. (351W included)

> It's a good C-4 tranny, but I'm having a harder time finding FE engines,
> and I have a good line on a couple of Windsor engines, and one Cleveland.
> But I will rethink the whole deal if I have to go out and buy a tranny to
> match the engine.
>
Check in the PAW (Performance Automotive Wholesale) catalog. They still
list full engine kits (block to heads) for engines like the 360 and 390. A
390 would be probably the simplest upgrade for this truck.

Good luck

Tom H


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Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 18:41:15 -0700
From: "Hogan, Tom"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - RE: Tweety's ticker actually about speedo year

Yes it should fit.

Tom H.

> ----------
> From: Mark Heims[SMTP:mheims initco.net]
> Reply To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
> Sent: Saturday, October 16, 1999 12:45 PM
> To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: FTE 61-79 - RE: Tweety's ticker actually about speedo year
>
> I have an instrument cluster from a 75, and a complete 76 4x4 truck in
> my driveway, both are full gauges and both have 100 Mph speedo's. The
> cluster I have has crumbly and broken plastic on the back where the
> light go, can I pull the speedo out of it and put it in my 78 cluster?
> It's a big 4x4 but it will still do 100+.
>
> Montana Mark
> 78 F150 4x4, 3 inch lift, 35" tires, 400, NP435, "The Great Pumpkin"
> (Web site in the works)
>
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Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 22:01:59 EDT
From: IanBoss69 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - stalling problem(kinda long)

Well as for that, a good friend of mine curses the word holley but has yet to
give me a good reason why,,

Ian
79 F250 4x4 4spd 351M
True Blue Ford Blue
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Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 19:11:47 -0700
From: "Hogan, Tom"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - It's good to touch the green green grass of home!

Decon
Congrats. Glad to hear your ordeal is finally over. Wishing the best for
you in the future.

Tom H.

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> Reply To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
> Sent: Monday, October 18, 1999 2:56 PM
> To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: FTE 61-79 - It's good to touch the green green grass of
> home!
>
> Yes it's true my friends. After 10 months of living in a motel, we are
> back in our house!!!
>
> For those new to the list and for the those who've forgotten Ol' Deacon
> allow me to recap.
>
> The day after last Thanksgiving a single fallen candle gutted our
> house. I can't begin to explain how much it sucks having a fire. First
> there's the useless effort to fight the fire, then the realization of
> loss, the endless stream of contractors all trying to get a piece of the
> insurance pie and the insurance adjuster doing their best to cheat you
> out of your claim. It's an experience that can bring a person down.
> Through all the battles one joy kept me strong.
> Christmas was a few days away when I wrote to Ken that Christmas
> wasn't coming for us. No tree, no lights, no presents for the kids.
> Ken's reply came back "You haven't checked your P.O. Box. Go check your
> P.O. Box now!" So off to the Post Office went the wife and I. Opening
> the envelope I was expecting to find a nice gift. My knees went weak, my
> hands started shaking and my eyes filled with tears. I couldn't tell
> Teddi what was sent to us, I could only hand the card with the list of
> names from FTE friends and the $750 for her to see for herself.
> Some people said they couldn't help because time were hard. Thank
> you! It wasn't the money (though it did make Christmas a lot happier).
> It is something that lasted much longer! A day hasn't gone by that I
> haven't thanked God for your thoughtfulness. God showed me as he did
> David, We are not alone!!!
>
> FTE RULES!!!!
>
> Later!
>
> Deacon
> deconblu ford-trucks.com
> deconblu earthlink.net
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> ================================================================
> '76 F350 FE360 C6 \ '73 F100 302 C4
> '66 Mustang 289 C4 \ '89 Aerostar Who cares!
> ==============================================
> Depression is merely anger without enthusiasm
>
>
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Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 22:56:06 EDT
From: GMontgo930 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - tweety's ticker

Maybe it's time for me to switch up to 33's from my "31's". Too bad only the
rears need changing right now (one has a bubble under the tread, the other a
slow leak). The fronts were changed about 15k ago and are still looking fine!

George


In a message dated 10/18/1999 9:22:27 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
gpeters3 visteon.com writes:


and run around 2k at 60 by my calculations. 3k is not out of range for a
torque engine, 6200 is :-) The main reason you don't want to run that rpm
is economy. The 400 will pull happily at 2k even loaded so when you spin it
higher you are wasting a lot of motor and fuel.

--
Michigan, Pot Hole Jumping,
78 Bronco Loving, Gary
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.thewowfactor.com/bigbroncos/detail.cfm?detailid=167
--

> Man! My Bronco at 2500 I'm doing 55 & at 3000 is just barely
> hitting 70. and
> they say a 400 is a low revving motor! It's suposto have 3.5
> gears (per the
> axle tag) though Ive never checked it.
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Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 22:07:55 -0500
From: Stu Varner
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - It's good to touch the green green grass of home!

At 11:56 AM 10/18/99 -0700, you wrote:
>Yes it's true my friends. After 10 months of living in a motel, we are
>back in our house!!!

Awesome news!!!!! Welcome home! You have not been forgotten......missed
is more like it!
We need some good vibes around here big man, hang around a little longer
this time.

Stu
Nuke GM!
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.pscico.com/stu

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Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 22:11:35 -0500
From: Stu Varner
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Web page updated - again

The web page has been updated with 4 fresh pics of the engine bay and a 92%
assembled truck.
Enjoy!! Thanks Tony!

Stu
Nuke GM!
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.pscico.com/stu

Remember, the first firing party for "The Ole B*^%h" is scheduled for Nov
13th. Email me off list for specifics.
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Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 23:10:56 -0400
From: Tim Anderson
Subject: FTE 61-79 - RE: Need mounts for radiator support

Joe,
The radiator support mounts you want can be had
from a company called Carolina Classics. They
are at 1 800 598-4211 and sell the mounts for $63.
I haven't bought anything from them but that's the
only place I've seen them offered for your year of
truck. I made a set for my '67 from Cessna engine
mounts. They work great but most folks won't have
access to stuff like that. Good luck!

Tim in Anchorage
'67 F-100 (still lunar green and growing)
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Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 23:16:20 EDT
From: GMontgo930 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - tweety's ticker

In a message dated 10/18/1999 9:46:56 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
Tom.Hogan kla-tencor.com writes:



> Ok, Im gonna date myself here but --- I like a twist on Cosby's idea, give
> me
> one that goes to a 100, after that I want the words "Oh WOW" !
>
> George
>
Or maybe let it say "Ludicrous Speed" ala Space Balls the Movie. >>

I tried that! Stopping once you've "Gone to Plad" is not a pretty sight,....


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