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In this issue:

Re: FTE 61-79 - Crew Cabs
RE: FTE 61-79 - Crusie Control
RE: FTE 61-79 - Crusie Control
FTE 61-79 - Re: "drag link"
FTE 61-79 - Re: "Pumpkin"
FTE 61-79 - Re: rag joints
FTE 61-79 - Track bar was; - Adjustable Drag link???
FTE 61-79 - High idle HC reading - failed emissions test
FTE 61-79 - RE: cruise control
FTE 61-79 - The Great Pumpkin.
FTE 61-79 - Re:Knock Detectors
FTE 61-79 - 68 change over to a 96 frame and motor
Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: "drag link"
FTE 61-79 - Looking for info...
Re: FTE 61-79 - Crew Cabs
Re: FTE 61-79 - OK here goes...
FTE 61-79 - Internally or externally balanced 460?
Re: FTE 61-79 - High idle HC reading - failed emissions test
Re: FTE 61-79 - 68 change over to a 96 frame and motor
FTE 61-79 - Square bore carbs vs. spreadbores vs to much carb
Re: FTE 61-79 - 68 change over to a 96 frame and motor
Re: FTE 61-79 - OK here goes...
FTE 61-79 - 402
Re: FTE 61-79 - 68 change over to a 96 frame and motor
Re: FTE 61-79 - 68 change over to a 96 frame and motor
FTE 61-79 - Cruse Control
FTE 61-79 - Re: Why Ford Made Unibodies
FTE 61-79 - 300 Exhaust, single 2.5" versus 3".
FTE 61-79 - Re: Carb holy wars
FTE 61-79 - Fuel Problem
FTE 61-79 - T-18 input shafts
Re: FTE 61-79 - High idle HC reading - failed emissions test
Re: FTE 61-79 - 68 change over to a 96 frame and motor
RE: FTE 61-79 - The Great Pumpkin.
Re: FTE 61-79 - 68 change over to a 96 frame and motor
FTE 61-79 - Tuning and exhaust
Re: FTE 61-79 - Crew Cabs
Re: FTE 61-79 - 1967 240 cid. Tune-up specs

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Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 02:44:40 -0700
From: "Radoje Spasojevic"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Crew Cabs

I happen to own a '76 short bed F-250 Crew Cab 4X4 with a 390, so, yes they
were available that way from the factory. Mine has an NP435, a divorced NP
205, and Dana 60's front and rear (Dana 60 front axles were available on
F-250's that were either crew cabs or had the snow plow package).

Rade Spasojevic -- rspasoje mindspring.com
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From: TWL1911 aol.com
To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Friday, October 08, 1999 10:36 PM
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Crew Cabs


>Hey all
>I was just wondering in town here in iowa i know a guy and he has a 76ish
>looking ford 250 crew cab shortbed truck with a 390 in it and 4x4. well i
was
>just wondering is this a factory option i thought all the crew cab short
beds
>didnt come out till the late models or is this a job that was done custom
>like or was it a option? thanks for all the help
>Travis
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Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 05:54:24 -0700
From: "Hogan, Tom"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Crusie Control

I have seen aftermarket wheels that had kits available to make use of the
ford factory cruise control. I think it was Grant. Check them out. It
would be your best be. Otherwise you will probably have to make a box with
the buttons in it to operate the system. The problem is it ain't just
buttons. The system is 2 buttons, a 12V connecton, Ground, and 2 resistors
of a specific value.

Tom H.

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> From: William A Whited[SMTP:f10074 ford-trucks.com]
> Reply To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
> Sent: Friday, October 08, 1999 2:37 PM
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> Subject: FTE 61-79 - Crusie Control
>
> On my 77 they have the cruise control buttons in
> the steering wheel. If I wanted to change to an after
> market steering wheel how would I move the cruise
> controls and how hard would it be? Remember I'm an
> electrical IDIOT. TIA
>
> --
> William A Whited
> 74 F100 RANGER SUPERCAB 390
> 77 F150 CUSTOM 460
> SEMPER FI
>
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Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 06:06:09 -0700
From: "Hogan, Tom"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Crusie Control

As far as a cracked wheel goes, they can be repaired. I think Eastwoods
carrys a kit. The horn pad is fairly easy to reattach. It just wraps around
the horn button. Take out 2 screws on the back side of the wheel. Pull the
horn button bar and reset the pad.

Tom H.

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> From: William A Whited[SMTP:f10074 ford-trucks.com]
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> Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Crusie Control
>
> Gary, I was looking at going backwards. Just wondering
> if there was an easy fix. The wheel I was looking at
> is in the LMC catalog with a nice hardwood finish and
> big ole Ford Emblem on it. My wheel is cracking pretty
> bad and the rubber piece in the middle is coming up and
> keeps getting in my way during turns. I'm just looking
> into it at this stage. Thanks for the opioins though.
>
> --
> William A Whited
> 74 F100 RANGER SUPERCAB 390
> 77 F150 CUSTOM 460
> SEMPER FI
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Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 08:21:06 -0500 (CDT)
From: Rubberducky23 webtv.net (Danny Ling)
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: "drag link"

I believe you are talking about the rod that holds the axle from
shifting side to side.. Its called a "Panhard Rod"... the drag link is
usualy the first tie rod in your steering system after the steering box.
Its possible the newer trucks may have had a different mounting place on
the axle, or a different bracket at the frame end than yours. I believe
Rough Country markets an adjustable panhard rod. (at least they did
about 6 years ago when I built my 1/2 ton).

I hope this helps ya...Danny Ling

(pre 77 1/2) 77 F250 Highboy 4X4 429 "Thunder Jet"

87 Samurai 231 Buick V6/TH 350 conversion, IH Scout axles, SPOAC,
33X14.00 Boggers.

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Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 08:28:48 -0500 (CDT)
From: Rubberducky23 webtv.net (Danny Ling)
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: "Pumpkin"

I believe the "pumpkin" is actualy the entire lump in the middle of the
axle where the differential gears sit. a "PUMPKIN SPREADER" (a large
frame like tool made by several manufacturers) is some times used to
expand the actual differential housing to fit the carrier assy without
having to pound it in and damage the carrier bearings doing so.

Just my $.02 worth. Danny Ling

(pre 771/2) 77 F250 Highboy 4X4, 429 Thunder Jet

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Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 08:39:59 -0500 (CDT)
From: Rubberducky23 webtv.net (Danny Ling)
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: rag joints

If you are willing to spend the money and want a permanent fix for the
rag joint and the Double D joint. the street rod suppliers make cool
little U-Joints just for steering to make any bends with. I had to use
em on my Samurai when I converted to power steering. Most suppliers have
2 types, splined and weld on. Both come in a variety of sizes. i had
real good luck making em work and if either of the joints wear out on my
truck I'm going to use U-Joints to replace them permanently. (besides
they look cool when the hood is up)

Laters, Danny Ling

(pre 77 1/2) 77 F250 Highboy 4X4, 429 Thunder Jet

87 Samurai 231 Buick V6/TH 350 conversion, IH Scout axles, SOAC,
33X14.00 Boggers

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Date: Sat, 09 Oct 1999 09:40:46 -0400
From: luxjo thecore.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Track bar was; - Adjustable Drag link???

joe delaurentis wrote:
>
> hello group,
> with my 68 4x4 slowly coming back to life from a frame up redo, I am
> having a problem with the Front dana 44 not aligning with the truck it
> seems to be off set
> by 2 inches(when standing in front the front wheels are off from the
> back ones)
> My questions are, I am using a dana 44 from a 79 f-150 4x4 so i can have
>
> disk brakes, can i use the 68 drag link(the arm from the axle front to
> the frame mount
> Am i calling this the right thing???)the 68 one is 2+ inches shorter
> then the 79 one
> or is there such an item as an adjustable one and were i could get
> one..?
> Joe
> 68 4x4 390 c6- Np 205 Dana 44 with Disc Brakes,
> Since Ford Didn't build em this way in 68, I'll make my own!

It's a called a track bar and superlift makes an adjustable one. About
130$.

OX
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Date: Sat, 09 Oct 1999 10:20:23 -0500
From: kimchi webcombo.net
Subject: FTE 61-79 - High idle HC reading - failed emissions test

Greetings, all. I just took my rusty & trusty pickup in for the
metro-Milwaukee, Wisconsin emissions test this morning, and the Einsteins
there had a problem shifting the manual tranny during the standard IM240
test (gee - could it be because the tester was forcing his way into the
gears, instead of easing into them/wiggling the shifter, like I told him?),
so they ran a simpler test, where they just stick a sniffer up the
tailpipe, and measure various emissions at idle and again at 2500 rpm, with
the truck out of gear.

Everything is fine with the exception of the idle HC being 905ppm - the max
is 450.

Background info: I replaced the distributor a couple weeks ago (due to
excess side-to-side play), and the engine sounded much better when I
advanced the timing a bit from spec, which, of course, increased the idle
rpm. Besides the rebuilt distributor, the following appear quite new:
plugs, plug wires, rotor, dist. cap., HV wire from coil to dist.

Also, with the tank 1/3 full of 87, I dumped in two 12oz. bottles of
isopropyl fuel dryer in her, and made sure she was up to normal operating
temp. With a rebuilt carb running $109, I really don't feel like dumping
that much $ into her just for ONE component, especially since I paid only
$500 for the whole enchilada.

This pickup has NO SMOG EQUIPMENT on it, other than a PCV valve, and that's
straight from the assembly plant in Kansas City,KS, boys and girls - no
cats, no air pump, no EGR. 100% stock and legal!

I have access to a digital tachometer (reads off the crank pulley), a
timing light, and maybe a few other things (one of my brothers is a master
diesel mechanic for Cummins).

Any ideas on how to fix this, FordFans? I don't want to tweak something,
and then go back, just to fail again.

Thanks in advance!

Geoff

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'78 F-250 Custom 2WD w/SuperCab, Rustic Primer Gray
300 HD I-6 (forged steel crank, etc.), Carter YF-1V
Warner T18 4-spd, 3.31 Dana 61-2 Full-Floater
Power Brakes & Manual Steering - what a combo!?
295K, and no rebuild yet!
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Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 10:52:29 -0500
From: JOHN E DOLSON
Subject: FTE 61-79 - RE: cruise control

I've been working on a project like this lately, for a friend. I'm
putting cruise control on his '67 c***y truck, the truck looks all
original, restored, but is wired like a '91 c***y, ECM, TBI, ABS, etc. he
insists on the original steering wheel
so I am mounting the switches on the dash. It's not really that difficult
to wire our biggest problem was locating switches for it, since most
cruise control switches are integrated into the vehicles interior. I
found the swsitches we're using at the International truck dealership,
where I work, I think they are off a 4700 series international. one thing
you will need is the wiring diagram.

hope this helps
John Dolson
Jefferson City, MO

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Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 09:02:46 -0700
From: "Chris Samuel"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - The Great Pumpkin.

SNIPATUDE

> > What's a pumpkin??

> Well Lisa, its this little orange thing that grows in a patch with a bunch
> of others like it ... ;)

> Its also the area where the differential gears are stored in the middle of
> the rear end and usually to one side on the front if you have 4wd ... aka
> 3rd member, aka chunk, aka lots of other things ... but basically where
the
> d.s. attaches to the rearend, that whole area there is the pumpkin ...

> Just my $.02
> wish

True enough wish... but you forgot to tell Lisa about the Great
Pumpkin....

Many years ago when "Coke was still cola, and a Joint was a bad place to be"
the King "Power", came in the form of a horse. The Horse's power flowed in
numbers like 428, 429, and the greatest being 427SOHC and BOSS 429.
The power became so great across the land that the King demand a mighty
pumpkin because the ordinary kind could not withstand the power!
So Henry's company did delve into metallurgy and other secret sciences and
BEHOLD! Oh the Splendor, the Brilliance; the creation of The Great Pumpkin!
A wonder to see for there inside the front webbing was the sign...
The "N"!
With the Great Pumpkin now marked with the sign of the "N" there came a
mournful wail from the Chebbys, and LoPor's; for no longer would the Kings
power be denied and Blue became the winners circle! Titles came, records
fell, the whole world recognized the King, for the Horse's power came to
dominate, and it did so.
And so by the sign of the "N" shall you know the Great Pumpkin. Even the
competition came to recognize the Great Pumpkin. This is how Henry's company
did come to be the builders of the Great Pumpkin; the Pumpkin of choice!

Muel
AFTE
79 Bronco
75 Highboy


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Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 09:12:52 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dan Lee
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re:Knock Detectors

In my search for a knock detector and a suitable
ignition controller, I e-mailed MSD. Here is their
reply.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joe LaPille [SMTP:jlapille msdignition.com]
> Sent: Friday, October 08, 1999 10:54 AM
> To: 'daniel.v.lee lmco.com'
> Subject: FW: Knock Detection
>
>
>
> Dear Sir,
>
> We do not offer a system that will retard timing
under detonation,
you
> may
> want to contact J&S Electronics Control, they offer
a knock retard
> control.
> Their number is 714-534-6975.
> Thanks,
>
> MSD Tech
>

I called J&S Electronics Control and left my number on
voicemail. They have not as yet returned my call. I
plan to keep trying.

Dan Lee
'53 F100
400C-4V




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Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 12:19:23 EDT
From: Cuzzinfl aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 68 change over to a 96 frame and motor

How difficult would it be to put the body of a 68 f-100 on a 96 f-150 frame
using all of the 96 running gear and engine. All that would be 1968 would be
the body.
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Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 09:33:20 -0700
From: "Bill Beyer"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: "drag link"

You're right about the purpose of the Panhard Rod or bar but I think the
piece that Joe is talking about is the radius arm and yes there are
aftermarket replacements out there as well as relocation kits. Check the 4X4
rags.

"If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, riddle them with bullets"

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From: Danny Ling
To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Saturday, October 09, 1999 6:23 AM
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: "drag link"


I believe you are talking about the rod that holds the axle from
shifting side to side.. Its called a "Panhard Rod"... the drag link is
usualy the first tie rod in your steering system after the steering box.
Its possible the newer trucks may have had a different mounting place on
the axle, or a different bracket at the frame end than yours. I believe
Rough Country markets an adjustable panhard rod. (at least they did
about 6 years ago when I built my 1/2 ton).




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Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 09:45:59 -0700
From: "Chris Samuel"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Looking for info...

I would like to compile in one place all of our experiences involving the
429/460 into the pre 79 "F" Series and Bronco's. Not so much a FAQ as an
outline of what we have done, what worked and what didn't (if any).
If you have done this swap in the past, or are doing it now, would you take
a second and list out what you have done, who's parts you used, what
modifications you had to make, or wish you had made! Also the modifications
that you wish you had not made. I am not looking for engine modifications
just the ones that you made to the truck to install the engine.
You can include as much or little info as you like, From just an: I used
this... and it rocks (or stinks), to all of the details, prices, and
pictures.
Any one who contributes will be acknowledged appropriately.

Please if you are so inclined reply directly, so we don't burn bandwidth,
and so I can keep things organized.

Thanks.
Muel
AFTE
79 Bronco
75 Highboy 385 Series


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Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 09:55:10 -0700
From: Pat Brown
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Crew Cabs

Travis wrote:
>
> Hey all
> I was just wondering in town here in iowa i know a guy and he has a 76ish
> looking ford 250 crew cab shortbed truck with a 390 in it and 4x4. well i was
> just wondering is this a factory option i thought all the crew cab short beds
> didnt come out till the late models or is this a job that was done custom
> like or was it a option? thanks for all the help

My '70 is a short bed, from the (Ontario?) factory. F250, 360, 2wd.
- --
Pat Brown
Sebastopol, California

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Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 09:57:59 -0700
From: Pat Brown
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - OK here goes...

Last week, Bill wrote:
>
> Got the cleaned & painted 335 block & lower end back from the machine shop

[ and I'm ready to go! ]

> Wish me luck!

Too late to wish you luck maybe, But, are you having fun yet Bill?
- --
Pat Brown
Sebastopol, California

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Date: Sat, 09 Oct 1999 12:07:37 -0500
From: "John LaGrone"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Internally or externally balanced 460?

>>
will


I know that my C6 has been really abused. It has ahd the wrong fluid, been
run extremely low on fluid, been run very hot, put in reverse and wouldn't
move the truck. It has never been out of the truck. Correct fluid and a new
filter fixed all of its problems. It shifts correctly and very smoothly. No
clutch and pressure plate to adjust all the time, no wrong bellhousing and
spacers to chew up the flexplate (flywheel?), SWMBO can drive it (but
doesn't), I don't have to use my bad left foot, I don't roll backwards on
hills......

To each his own, but a C6 is plenty tough and durable.

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Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 13:22:00 EDT
From: SHill48337 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - High idle HC reading - failed emissions test

In a message dated 10/9/1999 8:21:08 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
kimchi webcombo.net writes:


excess side-to-side play), and the engine sounded much better when I
advanced the timing a bit from spec, which, of course, increased the idle
rpm. Besides the rebuilt distributor, the following appear quite new:
plugs, plug wires, rotor, dist. cap., HV wire from coil to dist.
>>

In order to get high HC you have to have unburned fuel. Which generally
means it is getting too much fuel. But if it is burning oil badly this could
effect the readings also. Assuming oil consumption is in the normal band.
The carburetor is likely dirty and worn out, especially if it has seen a fair
amount miles that the truck has. I understand you would rather not spend the
money. However, with the other things that are new, a new carb would
complete the package. A high mileage carb generally has a worn out throttle
shaft, problems with the choke, a urethane float that weighs more than it
should, lots of shellac that may unseat check valves, an acceleration pump
that may not be working correctly, and a power valve that may have failed.
Rebuilding it yourself may fix some of these, but not all. So a home rebuild
may still not pass HC. Rebuild kits do not have throttle shafts or floats,
the floats can be gotten readily, but the shaft replacement is difficult at
best. If you do replace the carb, make sure the idle jet and choke are set
correctly before you take to the test. Best of Luck
Burt Hill Kennewick WA 1972 F-250 4x4 460
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Date: Sat, 09 Oct 1999 12:27:37 -0500
From: "Jason & Kathy Kendrick"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 68 change over to a 96 frame and motor

Are you sure this is what you want to do? You'll need to fabricate new
body mounts, fuel filler, steering column, brake, gas pedal, and clutch
linkages, and radiator supports.Don't forget the dash guages! I'm
positive I've missed something, but we're not done!
Next, you'll need to drill about 1000 new holes for all the emissions,
ignition, brake, cooling and ac components. You'll have to fit each one
of these components onto your fenders to make sure there's enough room.
Now, all you need to do is spend days, possibly weeks looking over
wiring diagrams to build a wiring harness to hook it all together on the
'68 body.
By the way, what's wrong with the body on the '96?

Jason


Cuzzinfl aol.com wrote:
>
> How difficult would it be to put the body of a 68 f-100 on a 96 f-150 frame
> using all of the 96 running gear and engine. All that would be 1968 would be
> the body.
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Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 10:06:46 -0800
From: "4Travis"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Square bore carbs vs. spreadbores vs to much carb

I have not experienced that much difference between a square bore carb and a
spread bore if they are the right size for the engine. It's my observation
that most guys when they try to increase the performance of the engine put
way to large a carb on it and this realy detracts from the overall
drivability of the vehicle. For example lots of guys will stick a 650cfm
carb on a small block and complain about bad off idle and low RPM
performance. Well a 650cfm carb is an awfull big carb for a small block;
you have to turn over 6000 rpm to flow that kind of cfm, how often are you
doing that? Motoring around town the airflow through the venturi's is just
to low to get them to meter fuel properly. Then they will start screwing
with jets and the pumps trying to compenstate for basiclly having to much
carb for the purpose they are using the engine. Unless you are drag racing
this vehicle and don't care about low rpm performance and fuel econemy a 450
cfm carb works much better at providing snappy, quick throttle response from
idle to WOT it will pull much stronger and produce much more torque with no
flat spots. It will run so strong and pull so well you won't notice or care
about any small theoretical loss at the top end. I had a 66 Impalla w a 327
I built along the lines of the 68 vette engine and ran a 450cfm holley
square bore on it with great results, I originally was trying to run a 650
and having nothing but problems with flat spots and poor running at low
throttle. I took that same 650 and replaced the 850 I had on my 68 GTX with
a 440 and it ran much better also, flat romped plus fuel econemy improved
significantly. Not only is high speed airflow through the venturis
important but into the cylinders as well to get them to fill properly at low
rpm. Any way that just my slant on the subject hope it helps. Anybody else
have a different read on this?



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Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 14:08:20 EDT
From: Cuzzinfl aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 68 change over to a 96 frame and motor

Body on 96 has been rolled. Cab completely crushed, frame and motor still in
great shape.
Could the engine be put into the 68 frame and body without much work?
I have a 240 6cyl. in it now and would like the new v-8 with fuel injection
and a little better fuel economy.
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Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 11:51:50 -0700
From: "Bill Beyer"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - OK here goes...

I would be having more fun if the parts I ordered from P.A.W., specifically
the camshaft wasn't on backorder. The block is all cleaned & prepped, I'll
be doing the plastigauge this afternoon then measuring the rings &
installing them but I want to put the cam in before the crank and I don't
know when it's going to be here. P.A.W. has gone downhill in my opinion,
it's been a few years since I ordered from them and they seem to have lost
many of their knowledgeable people and their computer system isn't up to
date. They told me when I placed my order that everything but the manifold &
EGR plate was in stock.

"If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, riddle them with bullets"

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From: Pat Brown
To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Saturday, October 09, 1999 9:55 AM
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - OK here goes...


>Too late to wish you luck maybe, But, are you having fun yet Bill?



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Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 13:00:04 -0700 (PDT)
From: Bill Ballinger
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 402

Azie,
Thanks for the support. I'm not running
stock heads - maybe you took
that into
consideration. These are brand new
Edelbrock Performer RPM FE heads
#6006
(complete) - 72cc chambers, 'Heads
include stainless steel, one-piece,
swirl-polished, hardened tip 2.09" intake
and 1.66" exhaust valves.' I
bought
the "complete" heads because they had all
new/modern springs/valves and
such,
and it was cheaper than rebuilding the
old cast iron heads.

It may be painfully obvious that I'm not
the seasoned mechanic that
many/most of
the list members are, and I appreciate
your patience.

>>>>>>>>>>

I've been away a few days learning a new job, and
haven't been following along. Can you refresh me on
this thread?

Have you got it running yet? How do you like the new
heads? From what I've seen of them, they look pretty
nice. I'm curious about the performance. Racers are
starting to pick them up and modify them for some
serious power.

=====

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Date: Sat, 09 Oct 1999 15:40:46 -0500
From: "Jason & Kathy Kendrick"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 68 change over to a 96 frame and motor

The '68 body could be put on the '96, but that's a really big project!
Now, putting the '96 engine/drivetrain in the '68 sounds like it'd be
much easier.
Jason

Cuzzinfl aol.com wrote:
>
> Body on 96 has been rolled. Cab completely crushed, frame and motor still in
> great shape.
> Could the engine be put into the 68 frame and body without much work?
> I have a 240 6cyl. in it now and would like the new v-8 with fuel injection
> and a little better fuel economy.
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Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 18:44:50 EDT
From: Cuzzinfl aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 68 change over to a 96 frame and motor

Where can I start getting info on changing over. etc. wiring connections etc.
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Date: Sat, 09 Oct 1999 18:49:31 -0700
From: "O'Connor"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Cruse Control

There is a cruse control out there made by rostra Precision controls in
Laurinburg, NC that is remote control. No wires to struggle with. I don't
have a phone number- sorry.

Tim
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Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 18:26:13 -0500
From: Brett L Habben
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: Why Ford Made Unibodies

Folks,
I've saved a box of my Grandfather's 'Ford Times' and 'Ford Truck Times',
roughly ranging from '46-'66. For those of you who have never seen them,
they were a monthly publication featuring Ford products, new Ford
innovations, and motoring, travel, and vacationing. They make
fascinating reading. As you read through the post-WWII-50's you can
follow their reasoning for moving the entire product line towards unibody
construction. They list reasons for it's superiority in areas such as
rattle resistance, stronger, lighter, cheaper, etc. You will note that
Lincoln Continental's and T-birds ('58), Ranchero ('60), Fairlane ('62)
went unibody, and introduced unitized Falcon's ('60), Econolines ('61),
etc. The only lines to resist the movement were the full-size sedans
like the Galaxies. '61 Ford introduced unibody F100 and F250 2x4
Stylesides. Other truck combinations remained non-unibody. Well,
evidently reality set in, because the unibody's were dropped for '64,
Galaxies never went unibody, and T-birds got a frame back in '67 and
Lincoln's in '70. The reasoning was that bigger, heavier vehicles
needed a frame.
The post-WWII era was a fascinating time in automotive history. Foreign
cars from abroad, aerospace crossovers via Harvey Earle at GM, Tucker,
Sputnik, etc. sent automotive designers back to the drawing board
exploring every permutation they could envision. Ever notice the wierd
fake louvers adorning the rear quarters of late '50's American full size
sedans? That was to get the US buying customer used to the idea of
purchasing full size rear-engined cars, probably unitized construction
and air-cooled, possibly even gas turbine powered. They all had
prototypes. My how different the 60's would have been if they'd been
given the go ahead....
Brett
Super75cab

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Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 19:00:15 -0500
From: Brett L Habben
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 300 Exhaust, single 2.5" versus 3".

Folks,
What size single exhaust should I use behind my 300. I've read all the
posts last month and have a question. Can math be used to figure out the
area as sort of a guide? For example, I've got '89 split exhaust
manifolds, which have 1.75" outlets. Math says that each has an area of
2.4", times 2 for a combined area of 4.8". How about 2.5" pipe for the
single exhaust? 2.5" pipe has an area of 4.9", which is more than the
4.8" area of the combined down pipes. 3" pipe has an area of 7.07" which
seems like overkill. Also, I plan on no cat and some sort of a
straight-through muffler.
Is this logic solid or all wet?
Thanks for any input,
Brett
Super75cab
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Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 19:14:40 -0500
From: Brett L Habben
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: Carb holy wars

Folks,
Since the carb holy wars have surfaced again, and it would appear that
there are some of you unhappy with the Carter/Edelbrock AFB, I might be
willing to take one off your hands.
Anybody have a 400 or 500 cfm AFB (9400 or 9500) they want to get rid of?

"Island for Misfit Carbs",
Brett
Super75cab
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Date: Sat, 09 Oct 1999 19:18:59 -0700
From: "Robert W. Hill"
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Fuel Problem

I tried to start my 1963 F-250, 223 6 cyl and it wouldn't start, I
bought it from a fellow not running and it sat for at lest 2 years. I
troubleshot it to the fuel pump, no fuel coming out when it cranked, so
I replaced it and found that that was not the problem, either. There is
no fuel coming out of the tank, I shot air through the line from the
tank to the fuel pump. Is there a strainer or something in the tank that
needs cleaning? It is driving me nuts. Thank you for any help. Robert

1963 F-250
1979 E-250
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Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 19:22:44 -0500
From: Brett L Habben
Subject: FTE 61-79 - T-18 input shafts

Folks,
Is there a difference between T18's used behind FE's versus small blocks
and sixes? Are they interchangeable? How about the other '70's manual
transmissions? I'm shopping for a manual trans for my 300 and need to
know what will work.
Thanks,
Brett
Super75cab
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Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 19:05:00 -0600
From: "Danger"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - High idle HC reading - failed emissions test

> With a rebuilt carb running $109, I really don't feel like dumping
> that much $ into her just for ONE component, especially since I paid only
> $500 for the whole enchilada.

> Geoff
...............

Perhaps a simple change of power valves could solve the problem? Carbs &
carb kits are shipped for use at sea level. If your not at sea level then
you shouldn't use the power valve that came with the kit as it will open to
soon causing a rich mixture.


Danger
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Date: Sat, 09 Oct 1999 21:28:25 -0500
From: "Jason & Kathy Kendrick"
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 68 change over to a 96 frame and motor

Unfortunately, you'll be mostly on your own here. I know there have been
a couple articles published on 5.0 swaps into early Mustangs, but other
than these, you'll have to most of the work(fabrication, plumbing, and
wiring) yourself. It's possible some of the other list members have done
this before or know where to find some information for you.

Jason

Cuzzinfl aol.com wrote:
>
> Where can I start getting info on changing over. etc. wiring connections etc.
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Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 19:25:22 -0700
From: "Hogan, Tom"
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - The Great Pumpkin.

Halelujia and amen brother.

Tom H.

> ----------
> From: Chris Samuel[SMTP:fourmuelz email.msn.com]
> Reply To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
> Sent: Saturday, October 09, 1999 12:02 PM
> To: A 61-79 FORD TRUCKS
> Subject: FTE 61-79 - The Great Pumpkin.
>
> SNIPATUDE
>
> > > What's a pumpkin??
>
> > Well Lisa, its this little orange thing that grows in a patch with a
> bunch
> > of others like it ... ;)
>
> > Its also the area where the differential gears are stored in the middle
> of
> > the rear end and usually to one side on the front if you have 4wd ...
> aka
> > 3rd member, aka chunk, aka lots of other things ... but basically where
> the
> > d.s. attaches to the rearend, that whole area there is the pumpkin ...
>
> > Just my $.02
> > wish
>
> True enough wish... but you forgot to tell Lisa about the Great
> Pumpkin....
>
> Many years ago when "Coke was still cola, and a Joint was a bad place to
> be"
> the King "Power", came in the form of a horse. The Horse's power flowed
> in
> numbers like 428, 429, and the greatest being 427SOHC and BOSS 429.
> The power became so great across the land that the King demand a mighty
> pumpkin because the ordinary kind could not withstand the power!
> So Henry's company did delve into metallurgy and other secret sciences and
> BEHOLD! Oh the Splendor, the Brilliance; the creation of The Great
> Pumpkin!
> A wonder to see for there inside the front webbing was the sign...
> The "N"!
> With the Great Pumpkin now marked with the sign of the "N" there came a
> mournful wail from the Chebbys, and LoPor's; for no longer would the Kings
> power be denied and Blue became the winners circle! Titles came, records
> fell, the whole world recognized the King, for the Horse's power came to
> dominate, and it did so.
> And so by the sign of the "N" shall you know the Great Pumpkin. Even the
> competition came to recognize the Great Pumpkin. This is how Henry's
> company
> did come to be the builders of the Great Pumpkin; the Pumpkin of choice!
>
> Muel
> AFTE
> 79 Bronco
> 75 Highboy
>
>
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Date: Sat, 09 Oct 1999 21:14:06 -0600
From: William A Whited
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 68 change over to a 96 frame and motor

I think there is a How To Article in the tech section from the home page of
www.ford-trucks.com. I believe it has to do with a 5.0 into a truck but may be a
starting point for ya.

> Where can I start getting info on changing over. etc. wiring connections etc.

- --
William A Whited
74 F100 RANGER SUPERCAB 390
77 F150 CUSTOM 460
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Date: Sat, 09 Oct 1999 22:18:39 -0500
From: Craig Cantrell
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Tuning and exhaust

Need some help. I have a 67 F-100 with a 240 6 cyl and 4 spd manual
transmission in it. Need to know 1. What is the timing and dwell supposed to
be? 2. Can you still get exhaust manifolds for the 240? Mine is cracked.
Thanks in advance.
- --
Craig
- --
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Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 23:57:52 EDT
From: JJJJJGRANT aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Crew Cabs

i know of two crew cabs with shortbox here in georgia, one is 4x4 other is 4x2
the 4x2 was for sale for 1600.00....


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